I can’t stop thinking Christian is going for the Shrek look

@knutsandin755

9 ай бұрын

"This is MY vintage watch shop, Donkey!"

@TheoandHarris

9 ай бұрын

does that make me donkey

@TheTubaEmporer

9 ай бұрын

If the boot fits 😂😂😂

@CrookDanny

9 ай бұрын

@@knutsandin755sounds more like Nico 😂😇🥸

@DallenRex

9 ай бұрын

Can't hit us with this before the video even starts. Now I won't be able to stop thinking it for the next 40 minutes.

Mike, it's your barber, I'm terribly disappointed you weren't honest with me when you told me you loved it

@kfactor09

9 ай бұрын

Lmaooooooooo

“No this is for The Zero.” Eye roll guys. Your zero shilling almost has me unsubing

I've been waiting for the part two of this conversation... thanks fellas for the much anticipated watch talk! Love the channel

Gérard Perregaux used to belong to Kering, the main competitor of LVMH. Hodinkee belongs to LVMH …

There's a saying in the Italian clothing industry: "the grandfather founds the firm, his sons run the firm, his grandsons destroy the firm." I read this in a book by Silvia Yanagisako, but was reminded of it repeatedly through your conversation (and the original Hodinkee video). Love this content, which is partially about watches but much more deeply about legacies, generations, wealth and even parenthood. What kind of patrimony does a rock star leave? What about a watchmaker? Brilliant stuff, some of your best convos to date

I have a strange fascination watching these guys. If you took them out of this context, Michael seems like he'd be a cool guy to hang with, but Christian would just be a guy you'd eventually want to punch in the face. Michael is humble and seems genuinely interested in the world, but Christian presents as a guy who's half-listening to any conversation, while simultaneously trying to think of comments he can make or stories he can tell that make HIM look good. Michael could just chuck it all and go do something else creative, but Christian will always be trying to sell you something, and wishing he was rich enough to live the aspirational lifestyle he's pimping.

I loved the Hodinkee episode, getting insights into a rarefied world of piece uniques and hearing their perspectives. I love hearing your take on this also, and definitely more so than from any other channel.....but...but....spanning this over 2 episodes makes the 'study aid' discussion as long as the original video 🙂

Funny how Ben was so confident the Ed Sheeran G Shock was going to sell out and a week later I'm getting emails and targeted ads with it still being available.

@samstraughan9054

9 ай бұрын

Same...

@ChisKH

9 ай бұрын

True

@Thisthat1234

9 ай бұрын

theres nothing special about it lol ed is talented but he isn't "cool"

@conduit242

8 ай бұрын

They are a cash grab of crap

The GP comment was friggin' ruthless. That should be an inside thought.

Nice to see them representing Kikuchi Nakagawa--they're exquisite. The PP 6619 is currently retailing for 32k

That Spider-Man AP looks like an Invicta homage.

Interesting bangs to hat ratio from Mike here.

@TheoandHarris

9 ай бұрын

I've been listening to a lot of Fallout boy

@timchan334

9 ай бұрын

He looks like my 2 yr old nephew

@jelenko07

9 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

On another podcast, Keven Rose said Hodinky does 100 Mill a year

@NYCybertruck

8 ай бұрын

Ho dinky

At 15:42 Christian does what he hits up Ed and John Mayer for - stops a line of dialogue and says “hey you want to hear my thought give me money and join our Patreon!” Wow talk about playing the game Christian. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

Christian looks like a ninja turtle in that outfit!

Great take on the independents that could've been bought by Mayer/Sheeran. I got into vintage a long time ago (10 years). I saw these older watches and and couldn't resist. I still have so many. Most are not great watches but damn, so much fun. Maybe not much dollar value but insane mind value for me.

Boys, please do an episode showing these independent brands that are beyond excellent and that almost no one knows about, like Kikuchi and Nakagawa

I think you got it wrong with the Black Bay. Only Mayer had the Facebook version. Sheeran had a Black Bay with the Divide Tour album cover made for his staff for the tour. And it was one of those he saw that sold at auction.

Allergies? Cocaine? Leave your nose alone, dude!

@urielcastro1178

9 ай бұрын

No way you’re annoyed of a grown man touching his nose

You both said Kukichi which is wrong obviously 😂, it’s Kikuchi

I laughed so hard when Christian took the fake line of coke talking about AP 😂

@SunsetSheen

8 ай бұрын

So good

Hi guys, great video. Question about the T&H shop. Are the vintage watches you sell professionally serviced? (or just sold “as is”?)

@bernardo9202

8 ай бұрын

I would say, if you invest in a podcast and gather so much attention. If you sell a watch without servicing. it has to be because there a history with that watch, and is better let alone than being touched. Like you wouldn't service a Paul Newman own collection watch IMO. You would let the buyer choose what to do with it

I full-heartedly agree the topics brought up in this video are valid, especially the potential for support in independent watch brands… That being said, arguably John and Ed purchased one of a few AP models that would ostensibly support an “artist or craftsman” given the watch in question (Spider-Man AP).

The fact that both of them had Royal Oaks on and then ripping on GP all seems a bit fishy to me!

edited: $180 for an entry level Gshock is criminal.

@conduit242

8 ай бұрын

Cash grab

Vacuuming in the background? 😂😂. I loved the video!

You got the black bay part wrong or it was confusing. They talked about the FB watch which they both have. However, Ed did not give a FB watch to everyone on tour. He gave a Black Bay 41 with the divide logo and engraving which someone then sold during COVID.

The "this is mine now" thing is knowable to me from guitars. When I was a gigging lad, there were guitars that just *did not* go to gigs. I played them in the safety of a studio, or at home, but they didn't feel like mine, really mine, until I played them at shows. But it's a meaningful change in the relationship to take that step, and one that I didn't take flippantly.

Ed repeatedly cites that his aim is to collect stories. I think that’s what getting the spiderman AP with John was about….however you’ve now got me paranoid that the whole thing was an AP psyop.

Man they did Girard Perregaux dirty, and so uncalled for, its a great brand with beautiful watches.

@phoenix5054

9 ай бұрын

It's treated with the same disdain Nico shows Hublot. 😂

What do you guys think of the TT daytona white dial? Do you think it's something that could be timeless?

What's w the early 90s baseball cap w girly bangs showing in front look.

This part 2 comentary video is much better than the first part. 👌

Which Fleece Jacket is Christian wearing in the watch strap commercial?

🎸 Amazing talent, they make every watch shine! ⌚

I completely see you point of view on the AP Spider-Man. I didn’t have that point of view when I first watched it but taking a step back it’s very obvious. Both my sister and I had similar thoughts on the moonswatch and thought it was off putting. One trip to Vegas, shortly after it’s release, we popped into the swatch store to see it and we both were holding them and had a similar conversation and said I’ll buy it if you do then bought them. I’ve maybe worn mine maybe 6 times in the past 18 months because it’s quirky and weirdand I’d rather wear my Omega moonwatch but I don’t regret it. At a different moment probably wouldn’t have bought it. John and Ed’s conversation reminded me of that moment and I’m sure a Spider-Man AP hits their bank account about as hard as a moonswatch hits mine. It’s part of the hobby IMO and they will have 10’s if not 100’s of millions to pass along to whomever so a dumb AP is really nothing to them.

Partnering with Hodinkee means they sell way more units than they would via a direct collab. It wouldn’t be nearly as visible and hyped if it didn’t have that element (as an owner of a baby blue JM G Shock, that’s part of why I bought it)

I wasn't too enamoured by their collections. They are cool just not anything radically different from what I was expecting.

@kimchiwasabee

9 ай бұрын

I was expecting at least one H.Moser. like a SWISS ALPS or sth.

@triniboy05

9 ай бұрын

That’s why these celebrity watch episodes never interest me much. Without watching this, I assume it’s a bunch of Daytonas and APs with various “rare” dials?

@yonchrr

9 ай бұрын

Not hard to buy cool shit when you are rich

@jonnyrotten8095

9 ай бұрын

@@kimchiwasabee Specially the last Edition in Vantablack with the Internet-thing at 6 o'clock !

@Arseization

9 ай бұрын

@@triniboy05 No Rolex at all but basically the whole Patek catalogue of grand complications or perpetual calendars - a few Royal Oaks.

Lucky enough to “only” have two Tudors in the stable (Twodors?), and I absolutely look at them differently. The bluesy Pelagos is MY watch, no two ways about it. But the Black Bay Ceramic? That’s just my watch for right now. Funny how a Pelly and a silly Speedy reduced are the only untouchable pieces in my collection, yet they’re the only pieces to have seen solid appreciation since I got them 😂 but money doesn’t make a watch yours - the memories and emotions tied to that watch do

Love watching you guys! But speaking of watching, Michael’s nose rubbing is absolutely distracting. I think I heard him say it’s allergies but it also looks like a nervous tick. Have you ever noticed a UFC fight where on guy throws a huge head kick and almost instantly the other fighter throws the same kick…Christian, you’re catching Mike rubbing his nose and you’re subconsciously rubbing your nose right after in a few occasions. Try running a HEPA filter in that room until right before filming or have Mike take a Claritin. Love you guys….and Christian, love that digital memory capsule of your grandfather you filmed earlier. God bless him.

@nikr1d3r32

9 ай бұрын

Hey hey be cool, we all know what’s going on 😂

@mattrainier4391

9 ай бұрын

😂👃❄️

@TRUYORK718

9 ай бұрын

Nah they're drippin from COCAINE

@amickinflorida9008

9 ай бұрын

I think Christian’s dad blowing off the driveway (heard in the background) is causing Michael’s allergies to act up. But ya the Claritin, Zyrtec or some Flonase is really needed.

How can you say a KIkuchi Nakagawa is better than a Patek 96? If they were both new, I bet any amount of money that the 96 will have better components where by each component has been hand finished, the case is solid golid, the beveling on a 96 would be painstakingly done especially at a time when volume was low. This is by idea, I may not have all the evidence but older watch making had more focus on finishing at Patek of before and now always followed the ethos of meticulous finishing.

@Theo and Harris-I am going to sound super ignorant and call the watch brand "that independent Japanese Watch Brand"-no originality, no hand finished calibre, why are we even comparing them to Patek Philippe? I have held even the oldest of Patek Calatravas and most of the watches form the big brands do not have finishing close to that of previous Pateks. This brand in my opinion is a hype brand, Grand Seiko, especially the new generation of Grand Seiko blows them out of water any day! How can you make an argument for them by saying the hard ware is very well finished? The hard ware is very well finished, what is that supposed to mean? How much more finishing in the hard ware can you get for say an additional $20,000 in comparison to a NEW GENEARATION automatic or Spring drive from Grand Seiko, OR an additional $10,000 for a previous genearation Patek Calatrava. This is the watch collecting elites that have pumped Kikuchi Nakagawa and even Naoya Hida. Low volume is not enough, I struggle to find the value in these, honestly.

The John and Ed episode actually made me a fan of John Mayer. And deffinately showed how intelligent he is.

Can't believe there is a moonwatch book in the background ;)

Isnt what they’re doing is kind of like what you guys are doing on youtube?

Christian went quick for the line 😂😂

Mike lookin like a little boy about to embark on a quest.

nothing watch related, but I love the Vest you are wearing Christian.

Another great episode brought to us by Theodore "Beaver" Cleaver and Eddie Haskell ♡

I could not agree more with Christian on the AP Spider-Man. He nailed it.

The title of this video speaks volumes. In greater context this means influence is in the hands of a view (of a view).

The AP spidey comments by them was definitely stealth marketing. That was planned to help make the Marvel watches “cool”

Really enjoy your chats but it does grate slightly that you regularly tease content that’s behind the paywall. Appreciate that you need to make a living though. Thanks for all the effort you put into these.

Can you also cover the Only Watch controversy, thanks!

François-Henry Bennahmias certainly multiplied sales but I didn't like its design language. I cry after the designs from Madam Jaqueline Dimier, looking at the 15000ST 33mm on my wrist. Same as with the (vintage) AP Starweel (25720B), which is so charming, and their current Starweel model.

Would love to hear your thoughts about TG Monaco.

Christian Zeron doing his best George Takei impression 4:56

@silvericepeak

9 ай бұрын

And he still got it wrong.. 🤭🤭

Is it me or am I the only one getting major Hall & Oates vibes from these two ?? That mustache keeps getting bigger 😂

Michael acting shocked that J.M. is an investor in Hodinkee. They mentioned it in part 1. Terrible acting.

12:02 Here it comes. Smooth.

Ooofff after saying Hodinkee isn’t impartial, lo and behold! They narrate their sponsor and parter, Masterworks

Is it “paddock” or “Pa-tech”?

The Cartier coke kings !

Nice Unimatic

I honestly don’t get the hate for GP. So what if you like the AP Royal Oak. The RO is great, but that doesn’t mean they are the only brand or watch that is allowed to be cool. There are so many great brands that make so many great pieces.

I think john mayer ("the watch guy") was wearing a pretty outrageous piece unique on stage an no watch nerds spotted it! Rather than worrying about his image etc as it wasnt his watch and wasn't planned out.

To AP credit, The spider man watch is a concept...which are super fugly watches to begin with. Putting spider man on it does make sense in some way.

can someone explain to me the fascination with G-Shock? I mean, why wouldn't one prefer an Apple Watch, Garmin, Coros, etc.

@triniboy05

9 ай бұрын

Doesn’t need to be charged, and if it’s just casual use, a lot of folks don’t care for all the metrics and notifications.

@DallenRex

9 ай бұрын

And the tech is far more timeless. It doesn't need to be supported by anything. It's a clock with clock functions, maybe a few sensors, and an extremely durable case. If you're looking for a phone on the wrist, then the apple watch makes sense. I don't want that. I want a feature complete watch that I don't have to worry about ever, that I could just as easily wear in 30 years as I could tomorrow, like a mechanical watch. This is also why I don't buy their Bluetooth models or "smarter" models with health tracking stuff. Not what I'm looking for. Smart watches feel like a mini computer that's going to be in a landfill somewhere in few years. Regular gshock models feel like an actual watch that I can keep around for ages.

@roytofilovski9530

9 ай бұрын

Someone already said it but I am going to repeat it. I own a (cheap) smartwatch. I don't hate them at all. But they are NOT watches. They are computers that eventually become obsolete and go into the trash.

Quality episode

We can edit on Christian. He is a walk green screen

Theo and Harris or Wally (from the “Beav”) and Spanky?

Come on guys that "insane" Japanese watch is pretty much the same as Seikos first watch. The Laurel. Looks like a straight copy.

Am I the only one that hears a leaf blower in the background?

@amickinflorida9008

9 ай бұрын

😂😂

...TCG as lead investor, and other investors including French luxury giant LVMH's LVMH Luxury Ventures subsidiary, True Ventures, Grammy-award winning musician John Mayer and six-time Super Bowl champion Tom Brady....

Not me on my casio, wishing i would wake up with what Mayer says is just a drunk decision

I've completely lost respect for AP...that Spider man watch speaks volumes for the brand. They have lost their way. Sheeran and Mayer came across as w@#kers at the end of the video...I'm sure they both watched the end of that video and cringed. Supporting that ugly AP undermined all the credibility they generated.

@petelemeat3509

9 ай бұрын

I'm glad to hear someone say this. I thought I was alone in my dislike for them, they're so dull! Just two guys with too much money, no insight or anything interesting said about watches, just formulaic "I bought this really expensive watch at this point in my music career" Christian and Michael are the complete opposite. How they discuss watches is what brings me back to every video. They have natural charm and a great friendship that shines through when they discuss watches and actually have something interesting to say. An opinion!

@jelenko07

9 ай бұрын

AP is giving royal oak to everyone with followers on instagram. It became a hip thing to have, even people who don't care about watches want one now. They became Nouveau riche it new toy

In many ways I think that AP is the brand that most people think that Rolex has become. It feels all flex, hype and bling, as though they have lost sight of what actually made them good. They sell one watch in different outfits. In my opinion they symbolise everything that I am beginning to dislike about the watch industry. Current AP is overrated imo. When the hype leaves the industry their brand is going to take the biggest perception hit in comparison to their biggest competitors such as PP, VC & AL&S.

@DallenRex

9 ай бұрын

I think this is true, but there can be more than one brand doing it. AP and Rolex do it in slightly different price and volume brackets, but they feel similarly "icky" to me, like their customers, marketing, and business decisions keep me from being interested even if there was a watch I wanted from them. There just happens to not be a watch I want from either, but if there was one, I wouldn't buy it. I'll buy what makes me happy, but buying what feels to me like a symbol of values I don't agree with won't make me happy, even if the watch is cool.

I think maybe he said he would regret waking up next to Girard Perregaux himself.

I think you guys missed what Mayer was saying about the watch being "his." I understood it to mean that he buys some high-end pieces (obviously) but likely keeps them in a vault with pieces that seldom see a wrist. And then at some point, he resigns himself that the watch is "his" in that he's okay removing it from an investment category or simply a valuable asset class to something he will wear in daily rotation without any real concern or paranoia about what happens. E.g. swirls, dings, wear marks, etc.

What watch is Christian wearing here?

@thomasdemiranda9291

9 ай бұрын

Unimatic. Looks like the UNIMATIC UC4 CLASSIC WATCH

Funny how conversation about self awarnes about moment when they talk about the Patek 5208 that is apsulute top of Patek. Conversation about it not being spotted os about this that public observes hipe not what aficionados would appreciate

I hate to say it, but John Mayer was right. Instead of a fancy Royal Oak Spider-Man watch, you do an affordable Peter Parker watch. You do the MoonSwatch, but instead, it's the APP, the Audemars Peter Parker. You make a field watch in the same vein as a G-Shock, you put Peter Parker somewhere on it, it's ceramic and plastic, maybe a sapphire crystal, you charge $400 for it. Before they jacked up their prices, Hamilton sold their field watch for $350. Totally doable. I'd even get one. Also, stop saying "I'm saving that for the Zero" all the time. It's constant. Please.

Personally I just don't get it. Sorry to be that hater but I find John and Ed really quite dull. Ed is just rich and has no taste especially considering money is not a barrier, but it's nice he buys what he likes. John comes across as conceited in the video. Also then every watch outlet covers their conversation. Hodinkee seems obsessed with them and every social media platform talks about the video for weeks. I can't be the only one who really doesn't care about what they think? I love hearing people sharing their opinions on watches but really I'm struggling to decide which is worse, their music or their conversations about watches 😂

@TheScalawag

9 ай бұрын

I think it's interesting to hear from major collectors, but agree, they themselves aren't very interesting. A good example of more compelling content is Teddy Baldassarre interviewing a stunt man with his dozen watches. So much more relatable, and filled with more real life than multi-millionaires texting the CEO of various watch companies to get an inside line on some 1 of 3 release.

@DallenRex

9 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say I care what they think, but I'm curious about completely "other" perspectives compared to my own. Then I'm curious what kinds of unusual things might get said that channels like this might then interpret. Same sort of goes for this channel. Their opinions are closer to mine, but still pretty far. Most of the watches they express interest in, I'm not into. There are points here and there, though, that I do appreciate their thoughts on. I just like watches and hearing people's takes if they're presented in a way that feels like expression of taste and interest rather than hatred. Anyone out to tear stuff down is just annoying to listen to.

@jelenko07

9 ай бұрын

Agree 💯

@fullymechanical9055

9 ай бұрын

The Dink have milked that TW piece until it has curdled.

Can John save Hodinkee? Lol cmon Mike that was headline news

Not gonna lie, I’m getting disappointed and disinterested when every time an interesting point is happening in the conversation on the topic at hand and then it’s becomes and ad for the Zero. I love T&H and the Iron snail and have loved it for years, since the beginning actually, it just sucks for the audience who isn’t apart of the paywall can’t be involved. No hate for either of you lovely gentleman just my opinion and I appreciate you both immensely.

$30,000 for a basic 3 handler? Not a chance.

@arnoldjenkins5455

26 күн бұрын

5711?

When money isn’t an option that is a normal day. You live and make brash decisions if you can afford it. But the JM/ES video I thought it felt genuine. Good vids though guys.

I'm convinced Christian is wearing a brown + green combination just to drive comment engagement. There's no way he doesn't realize how much of a bait that is.

@jackblah5842

9 ай бұрын

I prefer this to his cringy 1/2 unbuttoned dress shirt

What is Christian wearing?

I would never fault someone for saving tens of thousands of dollars on a bloody watch. The GP looks good.

All I hear is the leaf blower in the background and it’s driving me insane.

Funny this is the ‘John Mayer’ Daytona DID NOT become and is not a big watch because John Mayer simply wore it. It’s ONLY a big deal because HE SAID it’s going to be a big deal and NO other reason. STARK difference from the Paul Newman Daytona which became popular simply BECAUSE he wore it and not because he said to wear it.

John Mayer is invested in DEEEEZ NUTZZZ!

Lol i always read the titles i Micheal voice

I went back to watch the Spiderman moment and 😂😂😂 Christian you're 100% wrong. The stupid Spider-Man is exactly what they both needed to buy. 🎉 Congrats John and Ed. You're both 15 again.

Sure… sure… sure… right… right. Hahahahaha

Hendrix baby

He knows Jimi wrote Bold as Love…. right?

Did Christian just claim Bold as Love is a John Mayer song? Oh Christian, you need to listen to some more Jimi Hendrix.

@ctown6592

9 ай бұрын

A lot of people think of free fallin’ , wait til tomorrow, XO, bold as love, as Mayer songs because of how transformative he was when he basically rewrote the sheet music.