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@kostaskonstantinou640

3 жыл бұрын

What gives you more hp powercomander or reflash the stock one??

@lucashunter6694

2 жыл бұрын

??? Who are they lol 😂 no one important

@Panzerlang

Жыл бұрын

@@dr.jekyll2017 Codswallop. They "spent millions" doing the best they can to get around the emissions regs and end up with garbage fuelling, particularly at low revs. That's why modern bikes are jerky around town. Etc.

@Panzerlang

Жыл бұрын

@Dr. Jekyll Most "idiots" find the worst effect of garbage oem fuelling in the first 10%. Catch up dude. Lol.

@Panzerlang

Жыл бұрын

@@dr.jekyll2017 What's the "2 miles an hour faster" about? It's not about that. But then "sounds like your bike is a pos". Lol. Ok, you have issues apparently.

I’ve installed a number of power commanders and one flash tune kit. The flash tune is way less work to install but a bit more technical with the software. But I love the flash tune. The amount of control is amazing.

@AriH211

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's pretty remarkable what they can do with the software.

@xenogears5177

3 жыл бұрын

I'm gonna turn a wrench.....This makes me a CUSTOMIZEERRRR!!

@1up_doug

3 жыл бұрын

guys at velox helped me out with the full harness and qs kit w/ the auto tune after you made that video and im in love. much less work than the PC and alot more options. not to mention you can import PC fuel maps right to the software

@ChaseN194

3 жыл бұрын

Be very careful on the bike you use it with. They have bricked COUNTLESS sc77 honda ecu's and COUNTLESS kawasaki ecu's. Best performance comes from local shops unless you are just looking to correct some afr's

@1up_doug

3 жыл бұрын

@joe joe theres more than enough videos out there already showing everything the FT has to offer within the software as well as install videos on the bike its self. Its how i made the decision in the first place lol

I've seen a hell of a lot of bikes with those power commanders and they almost all run super lean. They can be ALL OVER THE PLACE. My advise, get it flashed by a reputable shop and make sure its an unlocked tune so you don't have to go back to them if they mess it up. I got mine done at Moore Mafia and they did a great job.

@mattsloop2736

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen bikes with them too. They don't seem to run or be any faster then a stock bike. Big waste of money to me.

@remsangachhakchhuak1738

2 жыл бұрын

I love Moore Mafia !!

@AP-wu1rv

2 жыл бұрын

That shop sounds familiar is that in Florida?

@luckycharmssssss

2 жыл бұрын

@@AP-wu1rv No Moore Mafia is in Taylors, South Carolina. Just watch his KZread channel he shows a lot of videos on dynotuning a whole range of different bikes. Got my bikes ECU flashed by him and made a world of difference compared to no tune. Runs so much better and smoother and seems to be faster. You basically get a dyno tune for the price of a flashtune. Definitely recommend tuning with moore mafia if you plan on getting your bike tuned

@crisnmaryfam7344

2 жыл бұрын

+1 for Chris Moore.

so glad this dude is still making videos, i was an avid fan of mc garage

@dawidos117

3 жыл бұрын

Agree! Me too 👍🏻

Glasses vs Lasik is the best analogy I've heard yet. Great video Ari.

@derrick.l1870

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, that concept really opened my eyes 😁

Good video! One thing that was not properly mentioned is how easy it is to revert to stock with a power commander. You mentioned removing it which works but is not even needed. With a power commander all you need is to connect your laptop or even smartphone to your bike and change to any map (even stock) you want. You can even have 2 maps on it and add an external switch to change between them.

Slick new set and overall production. Looking forward to many more episodes

@JMartinsATV

3 жыл бұрын

Are you Haines of Haines Manuals fame? If so, your comment makes this episode Oscar-worthy.

@batshitcrazymotorcycles7044

3 жыл бұрын

Did you want to make a comment about booster plug? An ECU trick that makes the ECU think it's 20 degrees C colder than it is, subsequently putting more fuel into the motor?

@AriH211

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm really pleased with the new set.

@jamaenhallford4241

3 жыл бұрын

@@batshitcrazymotorcycles7044 cxee

Nice to see you again Ari. "Get Busy Living."

Cool vid man. There is alot of new riders that this will help because when I started alot of people were stingy with info which meant I cost myself some money and heartache but I eventually got it all lined out.

Your vids are super helpful and keep the spark going in motorcycling!

Hi Ari, good to see you back in a workshop! Greetings from Belgium!

You do a great job explaining things without the bs and excessive product placements. Myself I have a fair bit of experience, but just manage to confuse most people. Thank you for a direction to point people in for reliable easy to grasp information. Again. (-; Revzilla's stuff just keeps getting better.

Great to have you back, you always provide good information 👍

Glad to see you made a full recovery! Love your videos.

love thew new shop! hopefully this means we'll get a lot more videos from you!

Again a great video to start the day. Thanks guys!

ive watched a handfull of someone explaining whats the point of dyno tunes, ecu, and power commanders. adn thsi is the first one where I feel like I actually got to understand what was being talked about. the analogoly about glasses vs. lasik was gold

Always love Ari's tech videos!

I enjoy Ari's videos and podcast's very much! Keep up the good work.

Feel much better now, this video came out just in time!! I just mailed out my ECU for a flash, it’s middle of winter so I got all the time in the world lol Thank you Ari for the video!!

@ChrisRon1k

3 жыл бұрын

Where did u send urs too?

@SoloMCRider

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisRon1k 2wheeldyno

@ChrisRon1k

3 жыл бұрын

@@SoloMCRider Thanks bro 💯

My favorite part of the ftecu kit on my FZ07 was lowering the fan temps. On slow rides on a hot day in a pack of running bikes, it helps keep the temps way down

@letscheckitout1985

Жыл бұрын

Was it hard to tune it you’re self?

@N0kJAA

20 күн бұрын

My thoughts exactly among others 😊

Love this series, always learning something new. great production, script and presentation!

Great language and images. Looking forward to all new episodes of technical matters.

How he explains the glasses vs lasik was really helpful..thanks

What I'd like to see from Ari would be to take all the bikes Zac uses for Daily Rider on a ride through some faster twisty mountain highways comparing them more as a fun bike, separate from their daily use. To top that off, take them to a track and do a dozen hot laps and put them on a list for best lap, showing the fastest lap as a video ending.

Great set up and a awesome video! I like this little segment and the dude is pretty cool

Seriously love watching your videos man helps me Soo much bro

I had ECU flash on 1250 bandit bit of backfire from slip-on and air filter box mod cleaned it up nice and responsive down low pulls hard but still smooth and responsive very happy

Awesome new set. Can't wait to see more episodes - and I hope that we can expect them more often as well :)

love the set so far. looks nice!

Great work as always, love this kind of videos.So much useful information in one place ! Gg Ari, Gg Revzilla

please more content on re-flashing, tuning etc..

Great info Ari. Nice detailed breakdown of the two options and how they differ. What's your preferred option? 🤔🏍️

Awesome video and great explanation. Thanks🤙

Nice to see ya back on KZread Ari, long time no see.

The optimal approach also depends upon the capabilities/design of the ECU. For example, the advanced ECU of the 2020+ BMW S1000RR/XR/R supports fully closed-loop operation and tuning (continuously takes readings from the exhaust sensors), which adapts dynamically to conditions (temp, humidity, altitude, etc.) and so you can get a flash that works for all bikes and configurations (e.g., exhaust and filter changes) of a particular model. Besides more delivering more/unrestricted power, they provide earlier exhaust-valve opening, better idle, faster QS shifts, rev limiter increases, etc. It costs most of $1000 but totally transforms the bike.

2:22 amazing how they've developed so much and so well

Nicely put, Ari! 👏🏽

Very well explained topic. Well done.

Hi guys. I had a k7 gsxr. Around 6 months after buying the bike was invited back to the garage in London where I had purchased my bike to meet the chef engineers about bike set up and help with R and D. Not sure if ECU's across the pond are different? But hear in the UK power commander's don't make a massive difference. In fact on this particular model the euc is already set up for this particular model. Was told by chief engineer from Japan not to waist money on a PC. As they are generally a con. Saying this did fit a power commander 4 to my honda sp1 which helped' smoother throttle control at lower revs. After re map a whopping 5hp. Goes to show a waist of £250 for 5hp. Smooth throttle control worth it. Like I say I know you're bikes are set up different and your cars because your emmission requirements are lower than ours.

If you fart in california you broke emission laws 😂

@unclejj509

2 жыл бұрын

But for some reason it's legal to take a shit on the sidewalk!!! WTF? HAHA!

@mowtown75

2 жыл бұрын

Not if it’s done under a sheet and u rebreath it back in, as that’s basically what all these engines are doing.

TBH, the cost of EFI mods always makes me appreciate carburetors for their budget-friendly-ness. They can be fussy, and come with their own issues/learning curve. But you can re-tune carb(s) for $50, a shop manual (!) and some basic tools, and have $250-300 left for your other mods.

@grndzro777

2 жыл бұрын

But you have to keep doing that. Once you reflash for the newer bikes they are generally set and forget if it's done right. And if you are in a decent community you can get collaborative help to make sure every setting is the way you want it.

@TheEpicDuck23

2 жыл бұрын

@@grndzro777 not to mention that complete ease of mind of not having to worry about carbs and weather outside lol

@d-nice2866

2 жыл бұрын

Yall having alot of carb issues

@elonmust7470

2 жыл бұрын

LMAO carbs? It's not 1995 folks.

@theclamhammer4447

2 жыл бұрын

Real power is made in timing so ditch the carb, embrace FI and tune!

Great explanation guys! Thank you

Definitely interested. Just got a GSX650F, and it surely is no monster. Sounds and rides great but I definitely want to bump up the 85hp.

This was perfect timing Revzilla! I've been on the fence on whether to get a power commander or just get the flash on my R1 and now Ari drops this vid! Def think I'm going with the pro flash and mail it out. Especially now in NJ with all this damn snow my bike has a little bit of downtime unfortunately.

@AriH211

3 жыл бұрын

Especially with Yamahas, FlashTune is the way to go. They've spent a lot of time developing tunes for the R6 and R1 for racing and other applications.

@brockwilliamson3944

Күн бұрын

Where do you recommend to send you ecu too I’m scared to send it in the mail an never see it again or have some one mess it up!, I have a (2007 r6)

The video we’ve all been waiting for.

Very informative thanks for sharing.

Great basics vid! Depends on the type of bike, pros & cons for each. For PC good if mods done Vs coming, & warranty. Piggy backs give you the option to continue to amend, start w/ pipes, but later add a cam, can change w/ no additional $. Also, new bike under warranty, if you have a piggy back & something goes wrong, you can go back to stock, flash is static & dealer may argue to void. Beyond the 2 options Ari mentions, Smart tuners w/ Autotune go further, sensing your elevation, temps, adjusting. & better than both a flash or PC, a true ECU replacement like a Thundermax Autotune. No piggyback, dyno tunable, larger O2 sensors than factory, then Autotune out of previous maps, revert back to old map at any time. V&H is simplistic Bluetooth option, quickly changeable in app, but limited, uses factory O2

@Zookeeper101

2 жыл бұрын

Power commander now has an add on auto tune, so you flash the PC for your tune and the auto tune adjusts fuel mapping for elevation/ etc.

A comparison on benefits between the two would've been a huge help.

@angelcelis9090

Жыл бұрын

Power commander is the way to go especially if you want a quick shifter those will require power commanders.

@lnsupplies

Жыл бұрын

@@angelcelis9090 no they don’t you can easily get a standalone quick shifter

@19910313

10 ай бұрын

⁠@@angelcelis9090nope. Quickshifters can be used and installed on its own without power commanders.

Great editing on this one

Thanks for another helpful video

Nicely explained sir. As an aside, anyone noticed that long established models that are tweaked to Euro5 tune are returning poorer MPG than previous Euro tunes? Point being that making a bike use more fuel seems counter intuitive to emissions endeavours (California).

Please ,keep on bringing episodes like these with ari

@AriH211

3 жыл бұрын

You got it!

2:46 that's honestly the best way I've heard these two types of ecu tunes explained. Great job.

@AriH211

3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad it resonated with you!

Thanks for your video. Well done!!!

Top job! great info.

Super helpful video. Thanks

Love that you have an R6 as background with this topic 🤣🤣

thank you for explaining

love the vids man!

The end had me chuckling.

I am surprised that you didn't talk about TuneECU. You download (and can adjust) tunes, and the app (on your phone even), can perform diagnostics, calibrate the speedo, help sync throttle bodies, etx

Ari, thanks for the video. Can one gearthese options improve low speed/low rev engine response making the bike less jerky in below 20 Mi/h? I have a 1999 VFR800 that I very much like my major complaints are the engine response under 20 Mi/h (school zones) and how hard the clutch can get if I get stuck in traffic for a long time. Appreciate the videos! I wish you continued success.

Nicely done👍

Thanks for this video, Trying to decide ??

I'll go tell my wife that we need a CBR600RR now that I understand the difference :o) As always, the clearest, no BS explanation on a topic in the shortest amount of time, free of crappy music overlay. Been following you from the beginning of my MC journey, glad to find you over here at Revzilla, Ari.

Had a Power Commander on my R3 and it still has throttle response issues. Once I flashed the ECU and removed the Power Commander, it ran like a dream. I also flashed my 2014 Yamaha Bolt when I installed a full exhaust and intake and the throttle response was butter smooth. Just wanted to put my input. Hope this helps.

Just wanna say, loving the feel of the PCV on my 16' ZX6R. Can tell the difference night and day and finding the tune was easy enough. Only chose the PCV over an equal flash because if I wanted to change my flashed settings, I'd have to remove the ECU everytime and have it sent out compare to just plugging the laptop in the garage to the PCV

@Apollo-Computers

2 жыл бұрын

That's why I bought the flash tune kit and did it myself, along with flash tunes Auto tune. It's been amazing, as many flashes as you want and helps dial everything in.

@unclealzbbq2185

5 ай бұрын

if the auto tune works then there should never need be another adjustment@@Apollo-Computers

@Apollo-Computers

5 ай бұрын

@@unclealzbbq2185 it works amazing.

That R6 though 😍

A professional re-flash is the way to go! It (which wasn’t mentioned) can be re-set to factory settings if required... 👍😎🇦🇺

@AriH211

3 жыл бұрын

True, you can always flash back to stock settings.

Vcyclenut flashed my fz09...best $250 I’ve ever spent

That was amazing 👌

Very informative

Glad to see you back in front of a camera!

I've recently read that clearing the stock ecu's tune and using a Power Commander 5 with an Autotune is the best way to get the most power out of some bikes. The Autotune added to the PC 5 allows the tuner to give parameters for the PC 5 to keep the bike in when there are atmospheric changes. Fact is, not all bikes have O2 sensors, one of which is my 03 R1, therefore adding the O2 and Autotune seems to be the best for my situation.

@IL_Bgentyl

Жыл бұрын

What I’ve been debating on doing. The ecu has the governor and has limited my auto tuner a bit so curious if that would help.

That's cool I did not know he had an identical twin. It's also cool that they have the same interests

How common is it to have both a flash and a power commander? Also what's the benefits/drawbacks?

Excellent video. :)

Thank you!

Hi! Will Revzilla do a video explaining Clutch coasting and how bad it is, if at all?

I have a 2006 VStrom dL 1000 bone stock. I installed a “Booster plug” and that was a big improvement. Would flashing my ECU be another improvement? Bike runs great as it is but I’d like a lil more out of it.

Please make video for wire assembly for spoke wheel

Thanks and now I’m educated 🤙🏼

Will the power commander work if I already have a quick shifter that is already piggybacking of the coil pack?

my weekend is complete (:

Had a dynojet piggyback module in my 2012 S1000RR that thing made me run on 2 out of 4 cylinders every 800-1000km's or so had to keep changing spark plugs and what not. Removed it in the end never ran smoother

Can you also change the ignition timing on other things like fireworks?

best bike channel on this planet maybe this universe

ECU Flash for me was awesome

So glad to see you and Zach doing what I loved with what used to be a stellar mag. That subscription renewal died long ago. Go Revzilla and screw Cali (govt side that is).

Ari i am currently facing a problem of fork oil leak due to a scratch please make a video on various reasons of leak and how to i can repair that scratch PLEASE

I have a xtz1200 with a flash and a PCV. It runs great. Did I waste money by adding the PCV? Would Autotune do me any good?

I got so excited...looked like an r1 in the thumbnail. I thought just Maybe someone unlocked the r1 ecu 🤦🏾‍♂️

I love how a custom tune increased my fuel mileage but yet it’s illegal

@TheStp77

3 жыл бұрын

@FailZero nope even worse Quebec Canada, 5 months of riding if you are lucky, 2200$ in plates a year, 1000$ for insurance and a cop on every corner to give out exhaust modded/flashers too small/missing reflector tickets. Basically if its not stock your looking at 500~600$ in thickets

@TheStp77

3 жыл бұрын

@FailZero nah its been like this for over a decade. Way before trump, started with all the straight pipe bikes, too many peeps didn’t care about the noise they made, people started complaining about the noise so they started passing laws and its been downhill ever since. In all fairness i kinda understand the people who complained, im a bike guy and when 50 big cruisers would drive by it was just crazy, they drive by doing 50kph reving their bikes to turn heads.we only have 1/10 the population of the states so it doesn’t take a lot of complaints before it becomes a majority 🤷‍♂️

@SKITTLELA

3 жыл бұрын

Even though mileage is improved, it possibly worsened emissions. That said, if emissions improve, I don't see the problem.

@twowheelpilot

3 жыл бұрын

@FailZero true!

@twowheelpilot

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheStp77 WTF, is it really that bad?! Jesus haven't they got really criminals to harass and worry?

If you guys read this i just want to ask this Which one is better? Rapid bike or power commamder?

This is a great segment, thank you for doing it. I watch assiduously and even when I think I know about a topic I invariably learn something. Not the most exciting topic I know, but I wonder if you might do a TSM segment on batteries and attaching external power draws (heated grips, USB devices)? Is the limiting factor the amperage of the battery or the efficiency of the alternator. I've got a 2010 Moto Guzzi V7, and the standard answer seems to be you can't attach too much external power draw on the battery. But can that be changed by modifying the battery or the alternator. As you can tell, electrical systems aren't my forte! Anyway, great segment, and don't need a specific answer to my question, just interested in the topic and can't see a lot of information online about it.

PC5 doesn't do much. The O2 sensor in the stock system (closed loop) nullifies most of your fueling changes. Woolich Racing flash seems to best way to go, but it's close to $500 bucks. Send it to Moore Mafia.

Like to have a setup where I can change the mappings on the fly, i.e. push a button and the bike shifts from performance to economy mode especially when I'm running low on gas and the next gas station isn't close by.

What about dobeck performance afr+ which changes fuelling via afr?

When installing a power commander do I need to Dyno tunes my bike? I am still new to all of this.