Sub'r #: 6.07K + 1 Tu#: 202 Doing a split case horizontal water pump. Wondered why there were no bearing shoulders on the shaft. Your video enlightened me.! Eternally grateful for your upload of this video.!

@SoybeanFarmer3300

10 ай бұрын

I'm very happy you were able to get something out of this video. 🙂

You are a good man SBF. You have the patience of Job in not getting angry my friend.

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

Forgiveness, and doing it quickly is the secret to a happy life. I bet you already knew that Tony.

Good to see you now have an understanding of the eccentric locking bearings!! SUCKS when you get the wrong parts!!!

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

Getting the wrong parts may have been a blessing in disguise. A friend in this conversation has alerted me to an alternative source for bearings I'm going to check it out in the morning. Still too wet here to even think about picking beans with more rain on the way so I'm not all jammed up about this repair taken as long as it's taken.

They call those wrong bearings, self aligning bearings. They're used were the flanges or pillow blocks may not be parallel to each other. Definitely not what you need ! Great explanation on the cam locks!

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

Aside from the fact that they were not going to be held tightly in place by the snap rings I could see how they wanted to wobble around inside of the Hub first thought after that was these bearings are going to tear this whole hub to pieces. CE thank you very much for being here watching commenting supporting the channel.

Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video. You just saved me a ton of aggravation and ruined parts! Thanks!.

@SoybeanFarmer3300

Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

This is what I love about the KZread community. I've known about eccentric collars for 20+ years and the idea of how they lock on the shaft. But I didn't realize until your videos how the extra hole was for a punch to drive them tighter AND I never thought about rotating them in a particular direction based upon the rotation of the shaft. I'm a contractor/excavator and I replaced the bearings on my 3 point Gill (soil pulverizer) not too long ago and one of the collars came loose not too much afterwards. It's actually still in my truck's cup holder since I was on a jobsite. Guess I need to make sure I tighten it the correct direction on the shaft! Hope you had a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you SBF!

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for sharing this with me here. Be sure to check out the link I put in the description. It was that article that cleared it all up and solidified it in my mind what I was wrestling with about the physics of energy in motion and how it transfers. I hope you had a nice Christmas with your family and you are looking forward to a safe and enjoyable New Year's celebration.🙂🥃

Good information on the locking collar. It will help me when I work on my baler this winter.

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

I got that link I found at AGWEB bookmark. It really cleared up what I was working through my mind trying to reason out about how energy would transfer through the bearing. In case you didn't see it that link was in the description of the video.

Yep, it so happen when they give you the wrong ones,,,,annoying.. here we get things expensive and not made here.....take care and keep healthy.Happy New Year to you and yours, cheers

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

Wrong Parts adds to the cost with additional travel and additional time involved. Thanks for watching good to see you here.

I am a bit confused how the lock collar works, how it can lock without screw thread, I know I am just miss understood something but it is OK, not necessary to explain again, truly something special, hope you get the correct bearing

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

Jan I was completely and totally confused about how this thing worked until I researched it and read that article. I posted a link for that article in the description of this video if you like to go and read it.

@jankotze1959

3 жыл бұрын

@@SoybeanFarmer3300 Thanks SBF, I will definitely

Good thing you figured out the bearing that you need . My neighbor had the issue of the shaft being worn some too but your yours looks decent

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

Got on the phone this morning and looked around and found the correct bearings they should be here Friday. Yeah I could have let this go a while longer and then I had a messed-up shaft that back bearing was in sad shape. Hey Jay thanks for watching.

@fredf3391

3 жыл бұрын

@@SoybeanFarmer3300 AJ+ they have a tool that's put neural on worn shafts it's like a pipe cut or you can center punch them and then use Loctite no

Good explanation and good eye on that wrong "for this application" bearing. That bearing would work for an application that required a shaft to float.

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

partscatalog.deere.com/jdrc/sidebyside/equipment/72737/referrer/navigation/pgId/401023270 Look at part number four that is where a bearing with the rounded edge would go between the two flanges. There are several other locations on this combine where that exact style bearing is used. And for that reason I thought I had the correct bearings when I left with them from the John Deere dealership. Check out the link in the video description to the article at AGWEB. That article solidified for me in my mind what I had already worked out concerning the physics of energy in motion. The catch was knowing the difference between a stationary shaft and a rotating shaft. The Genius of the locking collar is that it can be locked in either direction eliminating the confusion of having to ask for a left hand or right hand locking collar. Wayne my friend thank you very much for being here watching commenting supporting the channel.🙂🥃

@kswaynes7569

3 жыл бұрын

@@SoybeanFarmer3300 Yup, allows the auger to move or still work if it gets bent a little.

A lot of people get confused on which way a bearing collar should be tightened. Your case makes seasoned mechanics scratch their head sometimes trying to figure out which direction because in your case the shaft is stationary. Good job explaining how a lock collar works.

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

Now take into consideration the stationary shaft and there's a collar on the inside and another collar on the outside and the question in your mind is, do they both lock in the same direction? I went around and around in my mind with this until I found that article at. AGWEB. I put the link to it in the description of the video it was a good article. Thank you very much for being here watching.

@57fitter

3 жыл бұрын

@@SoybeanFarmer3300 I'll argue a little here. I like to think I'll be the one taking a locking collar off the next time. If so, with the mood I'll be in after a bearing failure, I'd be happy with Righty tightey, Lefty loosey. I figure if she's tight , she's tight.

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

Back sometime around 2016 I let cousin talk me into letting my wheat grow to harvest, he actually put the nitrogen on it. dialed that rasp bar cylinder up to 900 RPM and went to picking wheat. After a couple of hours the bearing on the rasp bar cylinder located on the side with the heavy pulleys controlling the variable speed seized up and threw its locking collar, somewhere we never found it. Then the bearing proceeded to explode taking with it the cast housing it was housed in. All that was left was the inner race heat seized to the shaft. Worst nightmare repair I've ever had on that 3300. Who knows for sure why it all blew apart but it was definitely an event. During my research to gain an understanding for eccentric locking collars I ran into the argument in multiple places concerning which direction to lock the collar. It reminds me of how the main hydraulic pump is attached to the end the crankshaft on the engine of my combine. With the rotation of the engine it's trying to make the threads tighter on that connection if it had been reversed and then using some type of locking nut there probably would have been a lot of issues with the hydraulic pump separating from that drive shaft. The math supports the physics of the Dynamics of energy in motion meaning when the caller is locked in the correct direction it will only seek to get tighter.

good job brother ... hopefully finish the work quickly ...

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

After I get my hands on the correct bearings I think I could put this thing back together in maybe a couple hours. I kind of sort of understand now how it all fits together and how it all comes apart. But I kid you not, when I started this job I was clueless didn't even have half a clue. Thanks for watching.🙂⚒

Thank God you noticed the wrong bearing. You will have it up and running soon. Thx

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

Putting those bearings in there could have actually really damaged that hub. Yep thank God I saw it. Thank you for being here watching commenting supporting the channel.

That's frustrating SF, hopefully they will have the right parts when you go back. I am really cheering you on to get the old 3300 rolling again. ha ha. It will go together good i'm sure. Thanks for the video.

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

I feel pretty good about being over all the drama with this repair. should get the correct bearings on Friday. there are still a lot of beans in the fields around here due to frequent rains. just about the time things get close to 15% wet beans it rains here again. Most of us don't like the high cost of moisture dockage so we are waiting it out. thanks for being here watching.

Up in Iowa we just got 3 inches of snow and are planning on getting 2 -12 inches this week

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

I got rain coming up in the forecast. Hoping that by the end of January it'll get dry enough to get over the field and pick some beans and not just end up out there stuck in the field. Thank you for being here watching commenting supporting the channel.

We had a 9500 JD and the big drive pulley had a grease fitting down in the middle of the pulley

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

later models have some pretty good improvements.

What we would do with all bearings without a grease fitting we would take and put a small hole in the plastic side of the bearing then we would use a needle fitting on the grease gun to pump grease into the bearing. That gave untold hours of life to a bearing and saved a lot of aggravation later down the road.

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

It was Bandit farmer who first introduced me to a grease needle and I have found a lot of different good uses for the one I bought. Thanks for watching.

The bearings you want are cylindrical outer race, not spherical outer race like the wrong ones. I believe Shoup Manufacturing and Sloan Exoress sell the bearings you need. Might want to try Napa, or TSC if JD does not help too.

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

the correct bearings are now on the way and a verification procedure has been put in place. thanks for the information you shared.

Hello my friend 👍

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

Hello John thanks for watching.

See, that's the beauty of a Gleaner combine. All of the bearings are standard sizes that are available just about anywhere. Farm stores, automotive stores, hardware stores, and they're all self aligning, like the one you have that's wrong for the 3300. You can tear your combine up on Saturday night and fix it on Sunday afternoon and get back to work on Monday!

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

So what you're saying here is when they decided to build Gleaner combines they just went down to the hardware store and then across the street to the automotive store and maybe even stopped in Pope's Five and Dime Store? 🤠 Just for fun I think I'll go to NAPA in the morning and see if they can cross-reference the number on this bearing, who knows might work might save me a 32 Mile ride too.😎🛻

@57fitter

3 жыл бұрын

@@SoybeanFarmer3300 I just walked out and looked at my K2 and there's not ONE bearing(that I can see) that's NOT a self aligning bearing. A mechanic said my F uses three sizes on the whole combine.I can't verify that, though. But he has no reason to tell me a story.

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

When cousin Scott brought that Gleaner of his here a lot of people commented the Gleaner was a lot easier to work on than the John Deere. From the little bit of time I have spent helping cousin Scott work on that combine I have seen how there are things that would be a lot easier to service than what I have had to deal with on this 3300. Difference being at this point though the 3300 has a consistent track record of putting zero dockage beans in it's Hopper, meaning no damage and no foreign matter. when that Gleaner gets to show itself in the field, I'm going to be really interested and seeing if it can produce a clean load of beans. Time will tell because I'm reasonably sure cousin will eventually get the issues with the Gleaner resolved. A dream of mine in my head now is going to be for both cousin and myself to be fully retired from our jobs so we can both be here at the same time running both combines in a field of beans filling up the f600 together.

@57fitter

3 жыл бұрын

@@SoybeanFarmer3300 That's a respectable dream,I got myself retired on June 1st this past Summer. And i like it. That's an intentional understatement. As far as Gleaners. Yes, they are easier to wrench on, easier to buy, the aforementioned bearings thing, cleaner sample, that GM engine uses pickup truck parts not head spinning brand name tractor parts. I could go on,but I won't

There is a short rubber hydralic hose that is in the steel line on the differential lock on a 4640.......My dealer looked up the part # ordered one from Atlanta... when it arrived it had a #5 female JIC on one end and a male #5 JIC on the other end...... Problem ...... one end of the hose that I took off had a female inverted fitting....That mated to the steel line with a male nut and a flare on the end of the line.....Sort of like you find on brake lines,,,,,,,,,,,.We had to order the line using the number on the tag that was on the line.... they had one in Waterloo........So Don't be too hard on them........

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

David my friend right now I'm ticked off but by the time I walk through through their door I will have prayed enough to realize the person I'm talking to is someone Jesus loves. So with that in my mind I will Bridle my tongue. Controlling myself in this manner will allow me to enjoy the rest of my day as well as sleep well at night. Thank you for reminding me of the right thing my friend.

Hopefully that bearing doesn't supersede the old one ... If it does then between outer dimension & seating on lock ring it should remain in proper position...

@troymartin3693

3 жыл бұрын

PS- keep the videos coming... Like watching you & "Cuz" on your journey...

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

I was pleased to learn this morning I will be able to get the correct bearings. got to wait for them to be shipped down from Illinois but it's still way to wet here to pick beans so I can wait. thanks very much for being here watching Troy.

👍👏👏👏

@TheGrumpyFarmer

3 жыл бұрын

What’s up ozz

@ozz5350

3 жыл бұрын

The Grumpy Farmer Love to watch equipment repair

So if you had unlocked the set screw and took a punch and turned the locking collars you should have been able to pull the whole pulley assembly off.

I see those bearings that you got for it even though they’re the wrong ones I guess you’re gonna be running sealed bearings so I guess you don’t need to set a Griesa nipple in there

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

No grease fitting going to be installed. It's just not going to workout in that application. Removing the inside grease seal to allow grease into the bearing would serve no purpose without removing the outside grease seal to allow grease to be pushed out so that new Grace could be pushed in. This would in turn create a Real mess.

That looks like a standard bearing in case they don’t have it probably could get it elsewhere

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

partscatalog.deere.com/jdrc/sidebyside/equipment/72737/referrer/navigation/pgId/402426910 scrolling down to part number six you will see that it states available for ordering. the two I have were ordered out of stock from Henderson North Carolina and transferred to Wilson North Carolina. I'm thinking all of the people who would recognize this bearing are retired or dead. Since I was still fighting through the battles I fought to get the bearing out of the Hub I did not know exactly what it did look like. I'm a bit ticked off with myself because if I had dealt with the dealer in Knightdale I'd have a 5-mile ride instead of a 32 Mile ride to Wilson NC. Down here John Deere dealers operate under the name Quality Equipment and none of them will do refunds for one another, so if I want credit for my $32 I have to drive to Wilson in the morning. I haven't made up my mind how big a smile to have on my face when I walk in the door down there in the morning I know some of those boys watch my videos and every now and then they'll actually say hey Soybean Farmer. I'm still looking for the company that says, if we give you the wrong part we'll pay for your gas and $10 an hour for your time when you have to bring it back. I could quit work if I could find that place. Always great to find you here in the comments Andy.🙂🥃

@TheGrumpyFarmer

3 жыл бұрын

@@SoybeanFarmer3300 now that’s funny 😄

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

Speaking of fun and funny should we get this for Jeff? parts.west-equip.com/john-deere-6-1-2-in-angle-nose-slip-joint-pliers-ty26345/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_-z5qL7v7QIVBkqGCh2ZzQAnEAQYHSABEgKe3_D_BwE 🤔

@TheGrumpyFarmer

3 жыл бұрын

@@SoybeanFarmer3300 🤦‍♂️😂😂 he’d throw it away

they gave u a flange bearing

@SoybeanFarmer3300

3 жыл бұрын

Yep they sure did. Got on the phone this morning with a different John Deere dealer who committed themselves to giving me new and correct bearings. Not only did the other dealer give me incorrect bearings they gave me bearings that have been laying around on a shelf for probably 10 years and I'm pretty sure the grease in them is kind of dry. Sure am glad I'm not backed up against the wall with this repair. Thank you very much for being here watching.