INFJ constantly questioning myself here: This is probably the best explanation of infp vs infj I have heard. Thank you for making this video, definitely helped!

@ToriH

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@riverdance8623

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, agree

THIS is THE most clear video EVER. THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! I am definitely an infj.

@ToriH

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@Q.T-T

3 жыл бұрын

@@ToriH ily..

This video has confirmed that I am an INFJ. You broke down the differences beautifully. Thank you!

@ToriH

2 жыл бұрын

Yay 😊

This is the best breakdown on the differences between an INFJ and an INFP that I have ever seen, and I’ve watched a lot of videos on the subject. The first test I took came out that I was an INFJ but all the tests that I have taken since come out with INFP as the type. I agree with Tory that some of the terminology used in the test questions are very close and confusing. I really appreciate the clear and concise explanations in this video that finally confirmed to me that my original and first test was most accurate in my case. Thank you so much for finally nailing it down for me. Please keep going with your logical explanations. Thank you Robert

INFPs & INFJs can be confused even more when they're of the same Enneagram type. Enneagram 4 INFJs especially can be mistyped as INFPs because they're the more individualistic & artistic variants of the INFJ community. However, they still use completely different cognitive functions from INFPs. TWO more differences I forgot to touch on in the video: 1. INFPs tend to focus on their feelings (Fi lead) while INFJs focus on personal insights & perspectives (Ni lead). This can be seen from both daily conversations and creative productions. When INFJs create (art, writings etc.) they tend to focus on personal meanings & symbols, while INFPs focus on personal feelings & values. Though both personality types have feelings and intuition, their primary focus is different. Eg. When Kurt Cobain (an INFP) is interviewed, he often talks about his feelings, but when Tori Amos (INFJ Enneagram 4, often mistyped as INFP) is interviewed, she talks about her insights and perspectives most of the time. 2. INFJs are a lot more logical than INFPs. This is because they have logic in their tertiary function, while INFPs' logic is the last function. INFJs are known to be the most rational of all NF types, and I tend to agree with this observation.

@miacisewski6945

3 жыл бұрын

I would say that INFP 1s (even though E1 is rare amongst Fi-doms) could be mistyped as xNFJ, especially if they are 1w2.

@Human_01

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your explanation. I have a question, @Tori (it's an odd one): "does astral projection exist"? And which neuro-personality types (and their enneagram) can freely tap into it, with relative ease? Metaphysics is important and understanding the capabilities of how each neuro-personalities experience re- ...😅. What is the full range of metaphysical abilities that the human consciousness can experience? Do "you" have any experience with astral projection? It may be possible to detect "phantoms", i.e. real ppl who astral project ('metaphysics' and quantum mechanics is the true study of the nature of reality. And the more we research and discover, the more surreal our conscious experience and understanding of reality, as well as the human legacy (thus far) will become. - The 'POWER' that will come of it will be 'divine'; i.e. literal 'NEURO-PHYSICS' - hacking into the simulation-esque(?) medium that confines our present reality and limited [perception] comprehension of reality... This will supercede the sophistication and 'power' of super-Ai. It can also greatly enhance it; to truly make it "complete" (as a sentient [AI given a metaphysical soul/quantum-software/quantum-engineering/programming; ...potentially omnipotent, and omniscience... If astral projection were possible, then it would be possible to be omnipresent as well - the fact is, we already accumulate external data from the environment via 'Ne' and 'Ni'. Wouldn't 'real' astral-projection be a more extreme version of that??? Quantum/ [>] metaphysical data is what our subconscious accumulates _(compare it to chat-gpt Ai; gather, process, display)_ and 'then' "puts together" to play/form the conscious, moving images we experience in our minds eye via Ni/Ne (try it; you should be able to feel a part of yourself searching for non-physical/metaphysical data in the background of space/"fabric of reality") - especially during "flashbacks" and intuitive-realisations. Astral-projection will be a more conscious exploitation of that process. I know it is possible. I wonder if certain bio-computers; brain-formation / neuro-personality, and enneagram 9 are more compatible for the astral-projection process/experience. P.S. In every context, the sentience of an intuitive cannot be limited to the physical, [presently accepted] reality. Intuition is the key to understanding the mechanisms and then influencing the fabric of reality (... which is already taking place at various adminstrative lvs the world over, I detect).

@kyurei4478

4 ай бұрын

That's true for the most logical NF aspect. INFJs tend to even be confused with Thinker types such as INTJ and INTP or even ENTP sometimes.

Things my INFP best friend told me (and what I, an INFJ thought): -you should be an actress (wait, why? Hell no, I'm like made of wood. Im just fooling around) -you are so sociable and outgoing (hell no, you don't know me gurl, normally I'm a walking dead) -you're so optimistic (huh? never! I just try to be realistic) -why do you even pay attention to me? (cause you're a hidden gem. A dangerous wolf wearing a sheep's skin. But you actually don't notice your power. Here I am. To provoke you and see how you make all your enemies burn. You're a walking truth, sincerity and modesty in this loud, narcisstic and selfish world. Let's destroy all the bad things in this world together.) When I met her, at the begining I (dont know why) labeled her as an anime weeb. She just looked and behaved like this kind of people that I met before. So I was pretty suprised when she told me she doesnt watch anime. But then guess what. About 2 years passed and now she's a full time weeb. Of course she doesnt remember what I have said but whenever there is an occasion I can't help saying "haha, told ya!“

@ToriH

3 жыл бұрын

Omg yes i do realize infps (and intps) tend to be really into anime. Especially infps.

I’ve been struggling for the past year whether I’m INFJ or INFP and after watching your video I’m definitely an INFJ. Thank you for explaining it so clearly!

@ToriH

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped you 😊

@Q.T-T

3 жыл бұрын

@@ToriH you are awesome..

This is actually the clearest vid I think I might be an infp…?but I know I can pin point my feelings and what I’m feeling rlly well,but I find myself using more logic then the stereotype.I can really relate to the NE function but I can also relate to FE in infj’s but idk if just a feeler think 🤷‍♀️

@kyurei4478

4 ай бұрын

Fi tends to be confused with Fe a lot. Fe users tend to be way more capable to tell how others feel rather than how they feel themselves. Also from my observations, Fi can have a good idea of how people are feeling if they're important to them and they know them personally. Whereas Fe is on another level. An INFJ will be capable to tell how a complet stranger is feeling without having any sort of connection to them. More like a diagnostic if you will. There is a much more personal aspect in Fi. Fi users tend to relate when Fe users empathize like receiving emotions through Wi-Fi. Hope it will help to differenciate both.

@Violetsarebluelikethesky

4 ай бұрын

Thank you,I did but I realized that I’m an isfp and not an infx but still an fi user :)

@kyurei4478

4 ай бұрын

Oh, if you have an S I think it should have been easier to tell lol. Glad you did :D.

@Violetsarebluelikethesky

4 ай бұрын

Tysm! c:

@kyurei4478

4 ай бұрын

You're welcome :) !

The party example about showing your emotions upfront really made me laugh cause I've always been so like that, it's actually a bit crazy to think about it. Like I remember one time when i was 5 or 6 years old and my mom forced me to go to this party and encouraged me to make friends (i was very shy as a kid), and I remember seeing this room full of loud kids throwing things around and I just started crying, sobbing in the most dramatic way and begging my mom to take me home lmao she was disappointed but i ended up spending the rest of the evening with the grown ups and I was so much happier to do that! So yes definitely not hesitant to show how upset I am T_T

Socionics shows INFJs can handle alot more stress than INFPs.

This is a great vid. Really made the differences clear. Helped me understand how to look for the differences and what differences to look for.

This is such an interesting video. I am INFJ, and my husband is INFP. My husband and I attended a video game orchestra concert, and while he was focused on himself and his feelings, I was the one watching everyone and assessing the general vibe. On the ride home, I asked if he noticed this person or that person who seemed upset or miserable. We joke that he is incredibly unobservant, and I am much too observant at times. It helps me to appreciate our differences and really understand him more. I have been mistyped on certain tests, as many other INFJs, but researching has helped me to understand that I am, in fact, very much an INFJ.

This is sooo good explanation. I'm finally settled for INFJ. Thank you🌹

I'm an INFJ male, (typed by two different practitioners and all online sites), and I care about dressing fashionable.

@ToriH

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. Se aesthetics ftw.

@yoshiperspectives4880

3 жыл бұрын

@@ToriH Although i'm not convinced Se necessarily means just experiencing the outside world.. as an INFJ i do experience the outside world, but in an out of fucus way as i focus more on what i'm pondering. But other types don't even have Se, but that doesn't mean they're even close to running into things. We all have eyes, nose, tongue, ears and sence of touch. This is not relevant to cognitive functions. I think the second and fourth functions feed the first and third functions. So for an INFJ, I'm dominant Ni, so Ti will naturally work with that. But Fe and Se are feeding my Ni Ti Pondering. And Fe being stronger will direct Se focus on people aspect of the external world. I don't think it has anything to do with the sences. Every human has sences. If there was someone that had Se less than me they definitely would be running into everything and not be able to function. Se can't mean how well your four sences work.

@askarufus7939

3 жыл бұрын

My INFJ male cousin has a style of dressing that I like very much. I am INFJ female and I am all or nothing in terms of dressing. Sometimes (very randomly) I make the effort to make myself look exactly in "my style" but mainly I am just wearing some old, casual, overused and comfortable blouses, T-shirts and jeans, not caring about how I look so much. (in european standards, beacause I've heard there is a difference between US and EU)

i like how yu explain things , its direct to the point and with alot of examples. for me yu are the best

yeah i'm definitely an infp. thank you for this video!!

@ToriH

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Excellent point. I much prefer dreaming of the future, to detailed planning. In arguments with my brother, I got buried in facts that weren’t logically pertinent.

What other differences do u notice between INFPs and INFJs? As usual, LIKE & SUBSCRIBE if u enjoyed this vid ♥️ Hit the notification bell for updates! If u would like to buy coffee for frontline workers: vendshare.net/care-with-coffee-support?yiminhuang

I've watched 5 videos trying to figure this out and this is by far the best!(:

@ToriH

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

I’ve felt quite conflicted with the two types. Years ago when I first took the test, I would get INFP, however now I’m noticing that I don’t really relate to some of the traits. While I do care about authenticity, I don’t value it as much as I’ve heard INFPs do. I’d rather be kind and fair than authentic. I also have never considered myself to be a possibilities person. I definitely change my way of speaking depending on who I’m talking to, and I cater to and mirror others’ emotions. Despite being a feeler, I also value logic and try to detach myself (my feelings) in discussions unless the conversation calls for it (which I’m terrible at explaining my feelings). I tend to not be outwardly expressive either. I realized I don’t understand myself as much as I thought I did. I tend to bounce opinions and observations off of others (I’m not sure if that’s an INFP trait?). I rely on others to help me understand myself better. I’ve always been described as empathetic (“like a sponge”) and in social situations, I’m always focused on others’ facial expressions and gestures and somehow seem to know/feel what they’re feeling. I react accordingly. When stressed, I isolate and become cold and critical but find myself overeating, spending money, and overall just being reckless. In those times, it’s like an itch to DO something. When it comes to the future, I picture it to be a certain way and wonder how to get there. However I do tend to reminisce and when I was younger, I was very much stuck in the past. Maybe a lot of my behaviors are due to mental illness and trauma. Overall I relate to some traits from both types and not so much others, so I’m not sure if I’m an INFP or INFJ.

@miacisewski6945

3 жыл бұрын

You seem like an INFJ.

@yoshiperspectives4880

3 жыл бұрын

Don't listen to these other two comments as they are not INFJs and don't understand what It's like. Two things you said really popped out. You said you like to bounce ideas off of people. An INFJ does not relate to this as we operate with a Ti function(Introverted Thinking) which makes us very self dependent and self confident in our ideas and opinions that we come up with through Ni pondering and Ti Logical deduction. Another thing you said was you feel you need to DO something. Dependig if what you want to do is related to people or just generally do something it sounds more like dominant Fe trying to do things for people OR Te. Either way, an INFJ will not often get the urge to DO something as we are very comfortable in our heads pondering ideas alone. I'm not an expert on all the types, but i do know myself quite well and the cognitive functions to a decent extent. I have also been typed by two different practitioners and several websites, and typed myself and the result is definitely INFJ for me. And Absolutely no insult to you for not being an INFJ, just letting you know i really don't think your explanation matches. Also, INFJs are NOT primarily feelers. We're ponderers. Ni and Ti work together a lot and balance out the Extraverted feeling to a more subtle nature. A really emotional person would Probably be more like a dominant feeler like INFP or ENFJ. INFP feeling will be more from their inside looking out, pondering of their own feeling, and imaging how THEY would feel if THEY were in that person's shoes. The ENFJ will be more mindful of others while kind of just experiencing their emotions being influenced by others. Fi is an internal pondering of one's own emotions. Fe is an emotional function that acts externally. Fi would be more likely to ponder their emotions while Fe will simply experience their emotions while focusing on external sources. But the difference between Fe and Fi is very nuanced and hard to explain with words. More so than the other functions. But you wrote a lot to express your thoughts on the subject which shows you have quite the interest. I'm happy to speak more about it if you want 😊

@user-jc5xs1fr4l

3 жыл бұрын

@@yoshiperspectives4880 Hey, you seem to know your stuff. Would it be alright to make a few questions regarding the functions?

@yoshiperspectives4880

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-jc5xs1fr4l Of course, go ahead!

@yoshiperspectives4880

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-jc5xs1fr4l And if email is easier: yoshidino126@gmail.com 😊

One of the best explanation between the two. Thanks

@ToriH

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Best explanation I've seen so far.

@ToriH

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Best explanation ❤ thanks so much you’ve cleared it up a lot

@ToriH

Жыл бұрын

U are welcome!

As an INFJ, I have the same conclusions as you about the differences. Particularly the difference when it comes to artistic expression. Ne users tend to show very out of the box ideas whereas Ni users ideas come off more as very intellectual. Usually people don't even find Ni users ideas particularly out of the box or bizarre but it seems they just struggle to get it. Almost as if it was too deep or conceptual to them. It looks like we're explaining nuclear fusion to them sometimes. I think it's maybe because we go at the very end of the potentiality and the conceptual world to explain how it influences reality, why something speaks to people, the underlying depth of the potential that can become real. No wonder why they can be lost if they aren't the bests with concepts and abstraction.

Thank you for the clarity!!

@ToriH

Жыл бұрын

U are welcome 😉

Thank you! I finally understand the differences! I never understood the videos other people made. It all still sounded the same, or I could relate to both types they described. But here it was consistent toward one. I AM an INFJ. I have been quite confused. Perhaps because I'm the type you mention in a comment, ennegram four? The more individualistic and articstic infj. But everything here fits. Than you for clearing the confusion! 🥰🤗

@ToriH

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it is confusing when many websites link Fi with authenticity creating the illusion that only INFPs can care about being authentic. In reality, Fi is more of an inward feeling function, concerned with how oneself feels in the moment. Other introverted functions like Ti and Ni can also care about being authentic in their own ways.

This is great! Thank you

An adult INFP freely dispaying their inner feelings at a gathering or party ? I think that is a million miles from the truth ! They will bend over backwards to avoid serious confrontation and will do everything possible to maintain group harmony, while silently judging the people around them and thinking most don't come up to scratch. They are much more likely just to slip away rather than show anger or upset in a social setting, and it takes severe and continued provocation for them to access real anger when in a group.

Your voice sounds like my boss

It's still hard to admit that I'm an infj, so I consider all the options. I remember how in my depression period I was making MBTI test multiple times and I got INFP or INTP most of the times. But when I came from this period I've got ENFJ and I found it interesting. Well, it's hard for me to analyze past, but I remember that I've never gave up and felt like I have a big future, so this is just a small part of my life, I should just wait a litle. I was sure - when I will go to college i will be a completely different person, not like at school, I'll creat another life with completely different people. And it happened) I was in depression episodes multiple times of my life, but I've never were fatal, because of scenes of big epic future. And it's always hard for me to prove other people that they have it too. I wouldn't say, that I don't regret about something in a past or I don't looking for answers in my childhood, but I never think about past more than about future. I find it hard actually, because being 18 yo my childhood is not so clear in my memory already. And I do really rerary make people know about my real emotions, just because I don't wanna them to deal with them or make me feel bad, before I understand how I should deal with them myself. I can do it when I'm alone or with a very close friend. I would say that INFJ is really closer to me

I'm an INFP and I certainly don't show my unfiltered emotions at a party. First off: I am not capable of expressing my emotions accurately. Yeah, my body language can say "I'm sad", but that is like buying tomatoes for your fruit salad. Yeah, a tomato is technically a fruit, but it still doesn't fit. The next part is: my emotions are just the tip of the iceberg. Beyond those emotions, there are a lot of values and struggles - and the emotions only make sense if you know the context. However, I may not be willing to discuss this context in a party while I'm being emotional. Furthermore, Fi is partnered with Ne. Unlike Se, Ne is a pretty slow process, so figuring out exactly how I feel about something isn't exactly trivial as the naming of the function implies. Instead, I arrange and weight the available information, consider and reconsider the various alternatives and build a preference that results in emotions. I don't see the point of displaying emotions in a casual setting because you don't understand what is actually important to me just looking at them.

@ToriH

3 жыл бұрын

It definitely depends on the person but relative to Fe users I tend to see Fi doms display their feelings more often, not that they necessarily intend to. It just shows.

Great video

Thank you so much for this video 😊Was finally able to type myself right as Infj after deliberating it for a while

@ToriH

4 жыл бұрын

You're so welcome!

Hi! I wonder why everyone consider the ''infj door slam'' brutal and dark. I usually cut bonds when I've been disrespected or neglected for long. It can seem drastically, but is not: I have usually been bottling up things and I use that as a last resort. I thought thougt this was something everyone did, maybe some more dramatically than others. I get that it can seem harsh of an infj who often appers so gentle and kind, but I would actually consider infp even more gentle. What is it that differs the infj from the crowd?

@ToriH

3 жыл бұрын

Learning to set boundaries earlier also makes the doorslam happen less often.

This is pretty interesting. Thanks for this!! I’m an INFP and one time a friend of my described me as eccentric. My cousin called me bohemian another time. I could never understand completely. I always dressed in what “felt” right. I always felt the need to explain that I was being my authentic self to my family. My ISFJ mother, on the other hand is convinced that she needs to take me shopping and always buys what she calls ‘acceptable and practical’ clothing for me! 😝 I do admit sometimes trying to figure out what would be socially appropriate to wear for an event is hard for me, since now I’m in a more professional work setting. I’ve started asking my ENFJ sister for advice on what to wear to events and she’s always pretty accurate! I don’t stand out as much. I always manage to put my own personal touches on my outfit choice though! It was really tough not to! Btw, do you think the lack of facial expressions is why I’m always getting asked, “What’s wrong?” by people talking to me? I never realized we’re that bad at hiding our emotions. 😩

@ToriH

4 жыл бұрын

Yes this is so true for the INFPs i know (female ones especially)! Fi is definitely more internal w the emotions.

I can vouch for the Si being minimalist and polarized and having lil to no idea about how to go with the trend of dressing and styling. It really confuses me how people easily mix and match and get this perfect outfit ready. 😭😂😂

@ToriH

2 жыл бұрын

Yes Si is not naturally interested in nor adept in the styling as opposed to Se.

This is the most helpful video I've found!! And you helped me find out I'm probably an infj Thank you 🥰

@ToriH

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your support! 🤩

INFP'S don't just focus on their emotions they can read a room too as Fe. Fi is going to go deeper since they are all about authenticity Fe is going to be more in tuned with social norms . Fi follow their own values where INFJ'S are going to go along with the group since they want harmony . Both feeling types are going to feel deep not just Fe. Both are going to use their logic but Ti is subjective Te is objective since they measure their logic by a metric system and will want to prove their case with Te evidence like data Ti is breaking down an argument or a statement to see if they're is logical fallacies INFP'S are quirky INFJ'S goes with what everyone' is wearing since they value social norms so their is a striking difference between the two of them . INFP'S can get out of a rut by going into Ne and explore ideas and possibilities also their imaginations and creativity to bring them some positivity in their life .

I even got INFJ and INFP, both in same website but I tested it in different time. In other website, I'm an INTJ or INTP. Hah, dunno, I'm just myself.

@Cerealbooger

3 жыл бұрын

I always scheduling and listing everything, but ended with procrastinate almost all of them. It's easy to read others feeling but sometimes at the same time I don't care about them. I love to write poems, fiction, short story, etc but in philosophical and rational way. Some people say I'm an oversensitive person, but some of them say I'm heartless.

@ToriH

3 жыл бұрын

From your descriptions alone I'd say u sound like an infj. Because we can be pretty rational with the Ti function and we don't lead with feeling. But since u are gd with reading others u sound more infj than intj. You MAY also be intp but i don't know u enough to comment yet.

Man I'm really torn between the two right now. I relate to some and then others. I'm also a very open minded person and I'm open to my values or ideas of things being wrong. Yet at the same time I do hold my morals high in my life. Idk I really feel torn between the two now. I always thought I was an infp, I even studied the cognitive functions to make sure. But the biggest thing that got me questioning is that I got 2w1 on the enneagram and it's not a common type for the infp's to have...so now I'm really confused. I do also seem a bit more confrontational than other infp's? But that's something that's kinda developed, and also tied to some values. But I do tend to not know how to describe my feelings. That's like the worst question someone could ask me, but it's usually cause I'm feeling so many different things, and my mind is trying to decide how I "should feel." I've also gone through phases in life where I do try to hide my feelings and then other times when I just don't. Man this is complicated 😅🤣 also I care a lot about how other people feel and I put others before myself. I'm surprised that people see infp's as people to not see or care much about how other's are, because as someone who thought I was an infp, I thought I cared so much because we're just empathetic people. And my empathy usually happens by me putting myself in people's shoes. I can almost feel their pain as if it was my own really clearly. Idk if anyone can somehow give some insight that'd be appreciated 😅

@twilag2201

2 жыл бұрын

Though I do see myself as very reasonable because I'm open to so many possibilities and being wrong. And when arguing with someone I kind of suck at giving facts, though mostly because my memory doesn't remember facts well. So I do approach arguments in a more analytical manner a lot. I've also heard that an infp trait is that when helping someone we try to offer ideas or advice? And I do that allll the time, but I'm not sure if infj do that or not

@ToriH

Жыл бұрын

From your reply alone it seems that you use Fe instead of Fi, and Ti instead of Te. Likely to be infj instead of infp. However, my understanding of you may be limited as I'm just seeing it from your responses.

As for dressing styles, I would say that Si cares more about comfort than Se. I like wearing stylish clothing as well but I prioritize comfort more. May I ask which country are you from?

@ToriH

3 жыл бұрын

Yes agree with the Si comfort, Fi of an INFP may propel them to dress with eccentric elements, while Si prioritizes comfort. But depending on each INFP, they can have different styles. Some prefer just a simple outfit. I am born in China, grew up in Singapore & studied in the States.

Yup. confirmed i am indeed INFJ could even compare me and an INFP friend well

@ToriH

Жыл бұрын

Cool, hallo there

DAMNNNN FINALLY I'VE FOUND OUT IM INFJJJJ

Socionics shows Si is aesthetics. Also: Socionics shows Ni (Intuition of Time) is visualizing one's future or past (Aka memories.) Si is present moment sensory intake.

@kyurei4478

4 ай бұрын

It seems to me that Si usually uses the past to explain the present whereas Ni usually uses the present to predict the future. What do you think of this perspective ?

Im always mistyped as infj, im definitely infp!

@ToriH

Жыл бұрын

Gd to know!

Thought i was INFJ but not! infp It is!

Thanks so much for this video! I identify with everything you said on the INFJ side. I used to be pretty comfortable knowing I am an INFJ but the more I read about it I found there are 5 specific things that don't add up for me: 1) I have a HORRIBLE concept of time, always underestimate how long things take and I'm almost always late. 2) I care and often think about past events, and I'm very nostalgic / melancholic, sometimes even reliving important past events in my mind as some sort of memory exercise. 3) I don't think I've ever done the INFJ door slam, because when I've consciously decided to take someone out of my life it actually hurts that I must do it and if they apologized I would definitely forgive them. 4) I don't really enjoy getting in the middle of very strong emotional situations because besides draining me it also leaves me not being sure how to fix it or make it better. Also people don't really go out of their way to open up to me. 5) I love traveling and getting out of my confort zone As far as I know these last 5 points are very un-INFJ... they are the only ones that don't add up but can I really be an INFJ with these 5 points...?

@ToriH

4 жыл бұрын

Solely based on ur descriptions so far, I'd say all the points except the traveling one seem to indicate you are not an INFJ. INFJs do love traveling (all the ones I know do) because of our Ni-Se. We like to gather insights, new perspectives and experiences from traveling. However, for point 1, INFJs can be late sometimes but it tends not to be chronic. Point 2 sounds like an Si trait (focus on past events, memory exercise). Point 3 seems unlikely because I think the INFJ doorslam is common, at least experienced at some point. For point 4, INFJs often give advice and come up with solutions, it comes naturally to us (as long as it is within our available time). As a result, many ppl open up to us about their problems. So not having that experience (typical of Ni-Fe) strongly suggests you are not INFJ as it is one of the defining traits.

@gehdochnicht

4 жыл бұрын

@@ToriH Thanks so much for your answer! The problem is that when I look at your video including the additional two differences you wrote in the comment section (and almost every other video on the subject) I super easily identify with the INFJ side. But then I have the 4 points that I told you which are very unlike most INFJs and so I'm left right in the middle wondering :( P.S. I saw your comment about enneagrams. I'm a 5w4.

@ToriH

4 жыл бұрын

@@gehdochnicht Coolio, I test as 5w4 and 4w5 sometimes...but im not too particular about figuring it out as I know my dominant types are 5 and 4, gd enough.

@ChriaraCass

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t think you’re an INFJ. (1) INFJs can underestimate how much time it will take them to do something but would rarely be late. If I know I have to be somewhere at a set time I will plan ahead and give myself buffer time (eg leave 40min early if the trip should take me 25min). It’s very uncomfortable and stressful when I’m running late. (2) INFJs tend to be critical when they reflect on past experiences and optimistic when thinking about the future. We don’t dwell on the past. Also to be minimalist because we don’t store sentimental memories and value in material objects. If I’m going to reflect on a happy memory conversation will spark a memory about a person and that’s enough for me. (3) Ghosting or “door slam” is an innate defensive mechanism which feels easier than telling the other person how they have upset you (4) emotional situations (not directed straight at me) I think INFJs are great at steering those emotional waters to get others to a better emotional place or defuse tension (5) INFJs love travelling it’s that inferior extroverted sensing function... You may have some of the same cognitive functions as an INFJ but be a different type because they take different dominance in your cognitive stack. Take a look at ISTP which also has extroverted sensing in the stack and I think would be more likely to run late and be both sensitive to emotional situations while also being aware that they not great at dealing with them

@felipealonso7859

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChriaraCass I feel identified with almost everything in the INFJ, just this one (1): it's actually normal for me to be late, but, it's not that simple. If I'm late but it will not affect anyone but me, I can be; whereas if I have an appointment with someone or I'm required with urgency, I'll rarely fail. I think I'm an INFJ because I color myself depending on the mood of my surroundings, I think I even dilute myself if necessary to stop an argument. This is something I hate; I love authenticity yet I can't be completely authentic; I love that side of INFP. I do the door slam a lot, and, damn it, I even do it to people I actually appreciate... I need to be better.

Socionics shows INFJ and INFP shares all 8 functions. But they prefer opposite functions.

Hmmm I'm definitely split right in the middle. But more of one than the other at different stages in my life.

@ToriH

2 жыл бұрын

May be due to functions development.

INFP cry externally / INFJ cry internally :p

Is it possible to be an INFP first and then later on become INFJ? I’m not sure if that’s a silly question or not. I’ve tested INFP a couple years ago but then this year as I was learning more about it I was reading a book that explained INFJs and it’s like I hit a brick wall. I went down the rabbit hole and I took probably 15 more tests and it’s almost 50/50 between INFP and INFJ- I took a cognitive function test and it was “unclear” because I scored 70s/80s/90s on a bunch and it didn’t give me a clear answer. I’ve watched videos, and asked on forums but I’m still feeling about the same. Is there anything you recommend? I would like a clear answer as I’ve already spent a ton on books and I’d like to know if I have to buy a whole new book set on INFJs or not haha.

@ToriH

3 жыл бұрын

Imo no, we can develop our cognitive functions later in life but we are pretty much always our own personality type. U can read more in-depth about cognitive functions and see which ones apply to your behavior the most!

@subliminalmuse

Жыл бұрын

We can change drastically, though most people won't. MBTI is not scientific anyways.

Im on the whole trip of thinking im infp again.....

@ToriH

3 жыл бұрын

Depends on whether you see yourself as leading with emotions, or find yourself more balanced in the emotion and logic department. Also, do you tend to value hard facts and date (Te) or flexible logic where you choose what and who to believe? (Ti) The former is valued by infps, the latter is valued by infjs.

@danab172

3 жыл бұрын

@@ToriH i lead with emotion and value flexible logic.

@ToriH

3 жыл бұрын

Flexible logic sounds like a Ti trait. Maybe you are an INFJ with Fe subtype? Idk. Do you relate more to taking care of others' emotional needs or being hyper aware of your own emotional needs?

@danab172

3 жыл бұрын

@@ToriH both. @needs. I never heard of subtypes... thats interesting. As far as flexible logic goes? Maybe id need a real life scenario to answer about.

@ToriH

3 жыл бұрын

Flexible logic is when you look past the "data" and analyze the situation using critical thinking and come to your conclusion. Ti (valued by infjs) is more concerned with discernment, while Te (valued by infps) relies on tried and tested methods, and using statistics to back up the argument.

Im an Enneagram 2 INFJ I keep getting mistyped as an INFP and from a distance they seem similar so it was very hard to understand but I just relate the most to INFJ of all the personality types I have laso gotten INFJ alot of times and was also mistyped as an INTJ as well but I know thats not at all me i guess the reasoni second guessed myself is because its so rare and I didnt want people to think I was just trying to be special but that in and of itself can be proof im an infj constantly worried about others😂😂

@ToriH

4 жыл бұрын

haha yes infp and infj are those types where they look so similar from a distance but are v different once u interact w them

👍👍

@ToriH

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I’m having a hard time knowing if I’m an infj with self improvement and hyper awareness of my emotional needs or if I’m an infp.

@ToriH

3 жыл бұрын

Another way to look at it is, do you respond better to Se or Te? Infps respond better to Te, infjs respond better to Se.

@n_m-e969

3 жыл бұрын

@@ToriH I find that with Te I might become emotional or a little bit irritated. But my father, has a very dominant se, who has influenced me a lot in his advice. I take in Se advice to improve the most and reason out my thinking.

INTJ uses TE

Go On

@ToriH

4 жыл бұрын

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@mohammedadel3668

4 жыл бұрын

@@ToriH incrage you to continue making vedio

@ToriH

4 жыл бұрын

@@mohammedadel3668 i see, thanks!

Socionics shows INFJ is future oriented. INFP past oriented.

Great explanation. Everything you said agrees with how Socionics sees NiFe and FiNe. Do you also know Socionics?? Socionics is easy to figure out when you know about the mbti introverted sensing cognitive stack error. 12 of the 16 mbti types cognitive stackings matches with those of Soconics (after doing a J and P switch ONLY for the introverted intuitives.) Just not the 4 introverted sensors. Observation & Socionics proves ALL mbti-SJs lead with judging. ALL mbti-SPs lead with sensing. ---------‐-----‐‐------------‐------------- So: Mbti- ISFJ = ISFj (ESI) leads with FiSe = Relations enforced. Mbti-ISTJ = ISTj (LSI) leads with TiSe = laws enforced ✏️ 📝 Mbti-ISTP = ISTp (SLI) leads with SiTe = Sensory pragmatism 🔨 🛠 🪛 🔧 Mbti- ISFP = ISFp (SEI) actually leads with SiFe = Sensory mood 💋 💄

INFP here and the theory doesn't sound so legit to me due to how I adjust A LOT while decision making and quirking with people and myself. 13:30 Are you threathened now? :33

@KN-jo6qn

2 жыл бұрын

but I like your clip:> Not offensive.

@ToriH

2 жыл бұрын

INFPs are known to be indecisive due to the weak Te. Hehe