Let's just thank Pawel for what he is doing.

@Sonic_Ox

7 ай бұрын

The guy is a genius. And so generous with his expertise.

Ez Tune is indeed the next level of tuning a Multi-Rotor. Big thanks to the INAV devs for this! Unfortunately the stick command menu is still showing PID tuning manipulation even after enabling Ez Tune on a Flight Controller. It would be better if Ez Tune would be configurable via the stick command menu instead when it has been enabled. It would make tuning your drone SO easy as you could just run through the tuning process without ever taking off your goggles or having to remove the battery and/or connecting your flight controller to a PC between every change.

I used to configure flight controllers to be able to do the flying that I loved. Now I fly to be able to use the iNav features that I love. Thank you for what you do, and for keeping the hobby relevant!

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

Very cool

One interesting thing that could be added is a selector to give a starting points based on the quad size. The presets now cover the majority of the builts with 3, 5 and 7" options but would be nice to be able to select 10, 12 or even larger frames.

@ghostdogfpv

7 ай бұрын

are you using inav7 on a large quad? i just configured my 10" with it and tomorrow will make a maiden flight and was wondering if you could share your eztune settings if you have such a big quad..

@ImperialArmour

6 ай бұрын

I used the preset for 7" on my 8" and it flew better than betaflight defaults!

@sergiirizvan4669

3 ай бұрын

@@ghostdogfpv I am now in the process of setting up a 10-inch quad on Inav. Could you please share your eztune settings with me to start from something?

@petrweigl8282

3 ай бұрын

someone tried inav 7 with 12incher or bigger? need some advice where to start with pid tuning. P and D should go to bigger values and I to smaller? Is that true?

@ufuksandalci5188

3 ай бұрын

@@petrweigl8282I built a 15" and still fighting for the fast movement oscillations. The final values I am using are p=60 I=20 D=50 for roll and pitch, a notch filter for 45 hz. Higher I values almost always lead to oscillations where increasing P did not help. POSHOLD and angle modes are life savers.

...and now we need a real example of tuning using blackbox and EZ Tune.

I'm excited to try this! I haven't flashed to iNav yet, was unsure about how to get it tuned. Now less worried!

Was thinking of trying INAV, but will now do it for sure!

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

go for it

Thanks for this video. Will you be making a more detailed video with some instructions for the EZ Tune?

One of the best parts of EZ tune is the description of what does what. Also really like the filter slider just makes it EZerrr

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

yeah, it for sure makes is simpler

Brilliant, Pawel! Really interesting idea indeed! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

Thank you! Will do!

amazing! it 's what I was witing for!

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

Glad to hear that!

Many thanks!

Best Best Best🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥, INAV releases never disappoint, always gives new features in every releases😀😀. I just love it❤.

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

Glad you like it!

@dronauticaltech-fun3485

7 ай бұрын

@@FPVUniversity not only like, I love it. Very simple to tune and many features, specially VTX power changing during flight is amazing I like that most 🔥🔥

This is great news! Ilove to try it!

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

remember it's still experimental

Soy un entusiasta de los drones y mi primera barrera luego de aprender el armado y configuración, fue sin duda el "Tuning". Ésta nueva herramienta facilita ese engorroso episodio e incentiva a muchos a atreverse a volar en este apasionante mundo.

I have just use this function and amaze how easy to tune compare to the old PID method makes it more understandable for the rest of us . hope it works on fixwings and VTOLS as well

@FPVUniversity

2 ай бұрын

on fixed wings you have autotune, so it's a little different

@cliffcosynerflight5253

2 ай бұрын

@@FPVUniversity I only notice recently when applying it to an Align 480 Quad with 16" props . I have difficult using EZ tune to configure. and have to return to standard tuning process. how ever for small drones upto 250 mm 5" size works

Thank you for the great work and progression of Inav, making it simpler. As I am a "Lame Duck" when it comes to understanding the logic that is encompassed within the architecture of tuning.... 🦆 "Quack... Quack... ~ All Smiles now"

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

Glad to help!

Thank you for this vidwo

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

My pleasure

Giving it a try now. I converted my 7inch deadcat to INAV 7, where my intention was to load INAV 5.1 when I was planning the build. I had problems getting my walksnail working last March/April when INAV6 was released, so I put BF back on it and it flew fantastic on 4s and 6s. I would love to see a real demo on applying the easy tune sliders on a similar build.

Great stuff man. Please make it available to OSD in-flight tuning of these 8 sliders/values. I hate fly, land , change, fly , land , change etc ;-) ;-)

Looking forward to Inav 7 . Having issues with my S800 in Inav 6.1 I didn’t have any with my first S800 in Inav 5 it flew slow fast and very noticeable flight control between modes. Auto launch is a dive into the ground but could launch it without auto launch. No change in ailervons travel in modes. Acro angle horizon and manual all the same and when it gets in the air even though there is plenty of travel it won’t fly well unless I go fast. I’ll move the control horn rods for more travel and use stiffer rods before I shelve the build . One other person had same issues with same wing. Thanks for your efforts in being part of the Inav team.

I think its a good step forward to do FPV user friendly. How ever, of course, we need to test it.)

Good stuff. I'm working to code up two tweaks to make it perfect. 🙂

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

Perfect! BTW, are you on INAV Discord?

@uavtech

7 ай бұрын

@@FPVUniversity yeppers! 🙂

Great job! Wery hapy now. I always think that user not supposed to understand what is under hood. Now i'd like to see a bunch of presets for remaining 8 sliders. Something like 7 inch quad, 8 inch quad, and so on (i know, that is alredy here, when configuring from zero), and one more group of presets, ilke: aggresive, mild, full beginner, and so on. Like presets on equalizer on music players: rock, pop, classic. One more time: you are awesome!

Keren mr pawel

NEED TUTORIAL ON THIS ONE!!! 👀

Looks like a great feature. Always struggled with some simple pid tuning. Just wonder if it works well for a 7” as for a tiny whoop? And it would be nice if the navigation mode parameters/tuning would be better documented

Looks great, thanks. Does this work for planes aswell?

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

only multirotors

Excellent work ! My question is about custom frames/3d printed frames and using EZ Tune....I dont suppose EZ Tune will compensate for custom or 3d printed frames that are more flexible than carbon frames ?

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

Nothing is that advanced :) You have to find a good balance

New INAV user here, I did miss the gyro calibration from betaflight. I didn't quite get a very good gyro setup in INAV and the angle mode didn't stabalise so well.

@FPVUniversity

6 ай бұрын

I'm not sure what you mean? There is no gyro calibration procedure that user should do in either INAV or Betaflight

I implemented Easy Tune and it's wonderful. Way way easier...

@FPVUniversity

6 ай бұрын

exactly!

Very cool! but what happened to your autotuning efforts?

Thanks for the video and iNav work. Why is there no auto tuning process?

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

Because auto tunig on a quad is super hard. It's unstable by design and if autotune messes up anything, it will fail and crash

pull in ardupilot auto-tune code for quads?

Is there a tutorial somewhere? With blackbox and stuff?

I have a good understanding on all aspects of fpv drone except tuning. This helps a lot. Suggestion: auto tune? hehehe

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

if that was so simple :)

@NaiahYabes

7 ай бұрын

@@FPVUniversity maybe at inav 10 hehe

how do I tune my Navigation PIDs when EZ tune is turned on?

Hello friend, inav supports more sensors than betaflight. This is nice. Does the inav 7 version support the dshot esc protocol? If not, it would be better if it was added

@FPVUniversity

2 ай бұрын

yes, DSHOT works

@user-en7oq7fo8m

2 ай бұрын

@@FPVUniversity Then it's very good. When I go home, I will flash the esc software to my Inav 7 F4 motherboard. Is there a problem with bluejay? I changed the blheli s software to bluejay software.

Is it similar tor auto tuning like ardupilot?

plz add option in next firmware. Soft landing for beginners.

I recently migrated from Betaflight to INAV7 and replicated the PID values, throttle limit (scale), and motor output limit settings from Betaflight. While these settings yielded excellent results in Betaflight, the same configuration in INAV7 caused serious control issues. The throttle stick became overly sensitive, making altitude control incredibly difficult. Additionally, the drone barely responded to sideways (pitch and roll) inputs in angle mode. Pitch and roll inputs in Horizon and acro modes exhibited exaggerated exponential responsiveness, leading to overall control responses that felt alarmingly unpredictable. Frustrated, I pushed through a few rounds of tuning, hoping for incremental improvements. Even though I managed some marginal improvements for the Angle mode experience, each tweak felt kind of insignificant, and the objective of replicating my Betaflight flight experience seemed to fade further with each attempt. Long story short, I am back in the Betaflight 4.5 firmware version, which fixed the GPS issue that was there in 4.4.3. Flying is fun, even though I miss the Alt-hold feature at times. I plan to re-attempt INAV7 tuning yet again when I will have more free time in the coming weeks.

@FPVUniversity

5 ай бұрын

BF PIDs can not be migrated directly to INAV. Both PID controllers work in a different way. I have a viedeo about this kzread.info/dash/bejne/nJulzMqMqMefdaQ.html

@Sleeperknot

5 ай бұрын

@@FPVUniversity Thank you Pawel! Will check it out

what size motors should be used for inav 7.1 im having high throddle osolations with stock tune and my motors are rcn power smoox 6s 1880kv and i dont get it with 1750kv motors do you know why.

hello from france, im a beginner in flight controller and use Inav for wings, and betaflight for quad; why i do not know, i guess betaflight was more simple to use ; i was waiting for a new inav to swap all BF quad to Inav; i wait a little that you launch official inav 7 to to try; but well done! it smells very very very good. my main pb is to stop using horizon, switching to acro is far too difficult to master; any chance to get a parametric acro mode? i mean acro mode with a litlle "horizon mode" behind...able to make safer acro mode

@blueskyfpv

5 ай бұрын

Hiya. Basically horizon mode in quads is 'acro with a little stability'. Learning to fly acro is not really that hard. You can easily get the basics in a few hours on a simulator (up/down, forward flight and basic turns). You don't need to become a full freestyle or racing pilot, but being able to fly acro will make you a much better pilot overall, and is well worth the effort. Coordinated turns, flips and flops and crazy moves take a bit more time to learn, if that is what you want. I learned to fly basic acro in an afternoon on a simulator. My first real flight after that was so much more fun and comfortable. I'd highly recommend learning to fly in acro mode sooner rather than later. You don't need to fly in acro mode all the time, but being able to is an important skill.

How bout automatic tuning just fly and enable it via switch etc it will hover do a test etc then save with no input from user

RPM filtering needs a way to enable within eztune

Hello Mr. Pawel, I want to ask you, should I use INAV for autonomous micro quad build or should I go with arducopter? It looks like INAV has come a long way very quickly. Please let me know your opinion.

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

INAV is much simpler to setup and flies as well. Sure it lacks some advanced features, but you need them only when you need them

@crash_lander

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the opinion. I am very interested in autonomous flight. I want to learn about it and try it. Coming from betaflight background I feel INAV is a great platform to start. I want auto take off, perform autonomous waypoint mission and auto land at origin. I hope I can do this with INAV.

Is Ez Tune for quads only or can I use it for fixed wing as well? Thanks

@FPVUniversity

5 ай бұрын

it's for multirotors only. On fixed wings you have Autotune

It would be nice to be able to custom assign motor positions 1, 2, 3, and 4 (and more) on multirotors, and their direction [as you can in BF and AP}

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

You don't need to change motor order. All you need is custom mixer and INAV has that for years now. Effect is exactly the same

@DugDiamond1

7 ай бұрын

@@FPVUniversity a short video tutorial on how to do that would help 1000s

@senseisecurityschool9337

5 ай бұрын

​​@@DugDiamond1 Click on "mixer wizard". Choose whether motor 1 is mounted at the top right, the bottom left, etc. Continue in the same way, specifying the location where you mounted each motor. Then click Apply, then save. You're done. If you are using an INAV version before 7.1, do NOT expect the "mixer presets" illustration to change when you use the motor wizard. They are two separate things. The image shows what the preset will do if you load the preset.

@DugDiamond1

5 ай бұрын

@@senseisecurityschool9337 - thank you for your reply. I have already tried this many times, and it does not work. The FC/ESC combo is a MAMBA F722 MK4 APP + 65ESC. The firmware installed is MAMBAF722_2022B (dec6 stable). The boards are rotated 180 degrees, so that the capacitor does not impede the air unit. I have since moved this build back to BF, and everything works great. I am currently making another INAV7.5LR quad with a different FC+ESC combo (iFlight Blitz F7 E55 Flight Stack) [currently in their chimera pro v2]. This time i will attach the motors whilst in the configurator, and wire accordingly. thanks again. happy new year.

Добрый день. Помогите решить несколько проблем. Исходные данные: inav 7.1, 10 дюймов, режим круиз. 1) При опускании стика газа в 0 через 2-3 секунды моторы останавливаются. 2) при полете прямо с небольшой скоростью останов квадрокоптера происходит почти сразу, если максимально отклонить стик и разогнать до установленной скорости 40 км/ч, то при отпускании стика в ноль квадрокоптер продолжает лететь прямо и останавливать необходимо вручную. Как это побороть?

That's a great feature! But it's not clear for me how filter tuning works. EZ tune has only one filtering option: cut-off frequency. It looks like a LPF, but INav has a bunch of filters with different options: two LPF filters (with dynamic LPF option), Matrix Filter (2D/3D dynamic notch), Unicorn Filter (Kalman). How does the single slider work? I guess there are Matrix and/or Unicorn enabled by default with some typical settings and this slider configures LPF2. Or it's something more sophisticated?

@FPVUniversity

3 ай бұрын

This one slider sets all the relevant filters based on predefined ratio. Once you enable ez tune and set main cutoff everything is handled. Imagine there is only one uber-filter and you set only this one

Does it not work for Fixed wings? For example a fixed wing using the Matek F405 Wing FC?

@nguyenducquocanh4341

6 ай бұрын

The last time I tuned my sailplane in iNAV 6, after autotuning, I flew again, select ANGLE mode and then then bird nose dived immediately from 50m to the ground in a couple of seconds. 😢

@FPVUniversity

6 ай бұрын

No, it works only for multirotors

can you use EZ Tune ans still apply your 'good-old' rates?

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

There is a rates preview with EzTune

Is there an explanation somewhere what is each of them meaning?

@FPVUniversity

2 ай бұрын

In the Configurator itself all of the settings is nicely described with examples

@GuyA

2 ай бұрын

@@FPVUniversity yes, thank you. this i saw. i tuned my 7" quad kind of good. but with some wind, there are twiches i cannot get out of the quad.

discord link leads to an invalid invite on discord?

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

Hm, seems to be working. But which exactly? On release notes?

@FATSNAIL-FPV

7 ай бұрын

@@FPVUniversity I clicked the link in the video description.

@BogHopperFPV

7 ай бұрын

Same link works for me

@FATSNAIL-FPV

7 ай бұрын

@@BogHopperFPV cool. I'm the guy that always has trouble connecting to the wifi at work/school/etc. Must be me I guess 😂

Add way to change these sliders in osd or wit a lua script (lua preferred!)

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

Not yet

Is it available in an app?

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

what do you mean? In INAV Configurator? yes. Any other app?

@WinstonSmith1984

7 ай бұрын

@@FPVUniversity i mean a mobile phone app

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

@@WinstonSmith1984 Speedybee App? It's managed by Speedybee

so simple than BF

Maybe next year the ez tune will be automatic

it needs presets tab that would complete inav 7.1 easytune is okay but no good enough

you may have put a lot of work into it, but it doesn't work well. i have a 10" phantom 3 set up with speedybeef405mini. Toiletbowling on GPS position hold. Oscillation and a slow tuning. even pidtoolbox didn't help. then i installed ardupilot and the drone flew stock better than with INAV after hours of tuning. then autotune and now it flies better than the original phantom 3.

Are you the creator of Inav?

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

I'm the mainteiner of the project

@Chillin-fpv

7 ай бұрын

Thats awesome!!

Good to ear that, i've done my first tuning with them on betaflight and it was so easier. I followed this tuto : kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZXiFptxvm9LFc5s.html I think i will put inav on my 7" quad instead of betaflight because i prefere to soft flight and get gps functions to rescuing ^^

I will never try inav for drones until the compass will vanish from a basic rth requirement for drones 😂

@thirtythreeeyes8624

7 ай бұрын

Inav is more of a nav software hence the name and if you want good nav as well as position hold etc. you need a compass. I even add compass to my Betaflight drones for better RTH performance.

@FPVUniversity

7 ай бұрын

compass stays as it's waaaays more safer and precise than what BF is doing

nope ... sorry but i did not like Ez Tune ... when you try to tune with PID Toolbox, you need other sliders (indeed same slider from Betaflight) I prefer to modify directly PID FF values than use the slider (in fact it's more accurate with Value than slider...) So please put a P/D balance and a master Multiplier. "this is the way" :) Chris Rosser and DZARO made some tutotials and explain the method to tune and Ez Tune is not a helper. Other thing : could you explain how to set "filters" and "mechanics" tab ? I did not find a "how-to" and did not find also how to see noise in Inav Betaflight... Keep going ; I like Inav for other things ;)