I worked for ShopVac Corporation for nearly 25 years. The profit on our vacs themselves was razor-thin. Filters, on the other hand, cost us almost nothing to make, but REALLY brought in the bucks! 🙂

@DDooMRooMM

8 ай бұрын

You live in Williamsport?!?!?

@donreid6399

8 ай бұрын

No, I lived in Binghamton, where the motors used to be manufactured. @@DDooMRooMM

@Gershwin48

Ай бұрын

Heck I would pay more if offered better. Out-design the competition!

@cram1nblaze

Ай бұрын

thanks for ripping us all off! love it

@donreid6399

Ай бұрын

@@cram1nblaze Don't worry...they all but went out of business. The owner sold the name to a Chinese company and now just put China-made vacs in boxes in a little plant in Pennsylvania so they can write 'Made in USA' on the outside.

Add a paver block or 2 inside the shop vac bucket to lower the center of gravity so you don't pull the tower over when you pull on the hose.

@durango8882

Жыл бұрын

Great idea 👊🏻

@YerBrwnDogAteMyRabit

Жыл бұрын

That's fkn BRILLIANT! ... (HOW did I not think of that..?) Thanks!

@alanross3435

Жыл бұрын

That's fkn BRILLIANT! ... (HOW did I not think of that..?) Thanks! ☮✌🏻

@neepsmcfly4176

Жыл бұрын

I had good result strapping the flat weight from a standing lamp underneath the bucket, wheelbase permitting, obviously. Lots of different shapes & widths out there.

@durango8882

Жыл бұрын

I used your method and it worked perfectly. Thanks man 👍🏻👊🏻

I blow out my shop vac filter with my electric leaf blower. Been using the same filter for ten years! I clean the wife’s vacuum with the leaf blower too. Works great!

@michaelheurkens4538

Жыл бұрын

Awww! Isn't that cute? His and hers vacuums! Take care now...

@Slightlysalty1

Жыл бұрын

That’s a trick my dad showed me years ago. As well as “meh, forget vacuuming the car, just open the doors and use a leaf blower” I love that guy 😊

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like my kind of guy.

@anthonyanthony7071

Жыл бұрын

Good shit man much respect

@independentmind1977

Жыл бұрын

@@Slightlysalty1 I’ve been using the leaf blower to clean the cars, my kids and better half think I’m nuts. Glad I’m not the only one

Looks like KZread finally decided to reward you by showing this video to people after nearly a year. Congrats! It's a worthy watch.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I wish knew how or why it was put into the rotation.

@lilcreaper007

13 күн бұрын

Hey man love the video just KZread put your vid out to me for some reason

Great video! I love the pool filter sock idea. My favorite shop vac hack is to use one of those remote control outlets that are used for holiday lights etc. They have a remote control for off/on. I wear the remote on a lanyard around my neck and I can start and stop the vac as needed without having to walk over to the vac

@316woodworks9

Жыл бұрын

I use the remote also. Came with 2. I keep one Velcrowed on my dust cart and in lives on a massive aluminum caribeaner to move around. Sometimes I just use the switch but having both options is great

@rnrhodes2368

Жыл бұрын

Brilliant, simple.....I love it. 👍👍👍💯💯💯

@davec2891

Жыл бұрын

Good video, I use one of those remote outlets to turn on the engine block heater on my tractor from inside my house, over 200 feet away and in a metal building.

@jhawkins4412

Жыл бұрын

Thanks that sounds great, but I think I'm going to tape it to the house so I don't hang myself. 😂 😂 😂

@pen25

Жыл бұрын

Using a pool filter sock is effectively reducing filter capacity. The pleats just increases the filter capacity. Using the sock reduces that. The better filter will have a higher square inch and the sock itself reduces that to a single wrap with no pleats.

Another idea for a pre-filter, is a plain white paper towel. They work very well, just wrap a single layer around the outside of the shop vac filter and hold in place with almost anything, tape, string, elastic bands, wire etc. When it gets plugged up, no need to clean it, just undo your fasteners and drop in the bottom of the vac to throw out with the rest of the dirt, and roll out a new one. I've been useing them for years. BTW, not my idea, I saw it on youtube ages ago, unfortunately I don't remember the fellows name to give him credit.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Well from now on I credit Larry Thompson. Thanks Larry. I think I remember that video, old barn and he walked through a door and the vacs were out back?

@larrythompson2967

Жыл бұрын

@@HouseDoctorRay Could be, my memory is good, but very short.....

@ghostridergale

Жыл бұрын

@@larrythompson2967 my memory great too, long as we’re talking about the present. The past isn’t near as clear as it use to be! 😂

@farkroy

Жыл бұрын

youtube.com/@engineershomeworkshop2692 I got it from this guy and also copied his prefilter housing idea old window screen and wire. It works great, keeps everything in place, and is easy to take off. I found that viva signature cloth paper towels work the best.

@tracyjohnson5023

Жыл бұрын

@@farkroy Those Viva paper towels are the best!

I especially love your cart. It takes up no extra space per se, gets the bucket at a convenient height for emptying, and the holes for accessories is a very nice touch!

@HouseDoctorRay

Ай бұрын

Thanks. It can get a little top-heavy. Some commenters have suggested putting a concrete paver in the shop vac to stop tip overs.

I know it's an old video but a tip on the dust bucket deal as I have built my own version that works great and really reduces the amount of dust that gets to your filter. I add a garbage bag inside the bucket for easier clean up.

I’m a 46 year old custom stone mason licensed contractor that’s been doing demo and flooring since I was 14 years old. Buying a better filter is very helpful. I didn’t for years. I also have severe asthma and allergies. So the most filtration that you can find is best. In flooring and sole and stone, no one uses a shop vac as much as we do. Sometimes cleaning the filter is a job every few minutes in some cases. Having two filters helps with the time but in general , most every shop vac that I’ve owned , the filter has lasted as long as the shop vac did. Now not to say the condition was the greatest and yeah probably could have been due for replacement , but when the vac needs replacing as well, . . . Well not to be too shallow, I won’t go too deep. You can buy a muffler that attaches to the outlet for around $15-20 bucks. They work great and fit perfect not to mention do what they are designed to do. Always wear protection. Always. Get a good painters mask. It’s called a respirator. 3M makes most of them on the market. I have silicosis and mesothelioma on top of my severe Asthma. It’s not fun. Protect it ! All of it ! Everything that you care about from your ears to your eyes, Arms Legs Skin. Yes skin And especially Your lungs. Even if your a smoker of anything. Still. Protect them

@AngelsDontFall

3 ай бұрын

I’d have to agree with myself here, just so YT doesn’t delete my comment that I worked so hard on. J/k. It was easy. Agape !

@HouseDoctorRay

3 ай бұрын

Excellent points. Thanks for taking the time to post.

All of these are great solutions.. I am very retentive about my shop vac being very efficient due to being in the construction industry. For over 25 years I have always put about a 1/2” of standing water in the tub! This allows the dust to drop & stick to the tub, therefore keeping the filter a lot cleaner! Thanks for the additional tips to add!!

@Lugenfabrik

Жыл бұрын

Never heard of this!

@georgecote6481

Жыл бұрын

When cleaning drywall dust, I put in a bout 1/3 full of water, that's enough with a 15 gallon shop vac to hold it down and power drywall sand a whole home without filter cleaning.

I like your muffler tip; however, you must make sure that the cumulative area of holes you drill are at least equal to the diameter of the exhaust pipe. If not you will increase back pressure and decrease suction. Additionally, because of the filter material you added, I would 2x the cumulative diameter to account for the restriction caused by the filter material and maybe even go up a size in pvc pipe. Keep it up!

@HouseDoctorRay

2 жыл бұрын

Good point. I was originally going to go with 1/4" holes until I did the math on how many I would need. I decided on 1/2" holes instead.

@jerryp1970

Жыл бұрын

Anyone know if there's an optimal size pipe ie, would a 3" pipe muffle better?

@justinjones9255

Жыл бұрын

@@jerryp1970 No not really because the restriction is the diameter of the exhaust port on your vac. 2.5-3” should be fine but the point I made in my original comment still apply.

@A6Legit

Жыл бұрын

@@youtubeuser5424 They're more like $13-16 but you're right. It's probably cheaper than buying the materials to DIY.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Where's the fun in that?

I like the pool filter sock Idea. I replaced my paper shop vac filter with a washable type one I bought from Bunnings (Aust). It's made by Gerni. Cost about $15. To clean it I just wash it under the tap. No dust even when I clean it. Beautiful!

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Nice!

I use shop vacs down in my basement,garage and barn. We actually own a few of them. I clean the filters very easily. I take them out to my Pole Barn out back and dump what I can in a garbage can. My filters have a Black Plastic Ring and a material cover that sits over the filter. You set it over the filter and push the ring down over the filter and it holds it tight over the filter. I simply start up my Air Compressor and Blow it clean with air pressure. There is no need to take it apart to even consider washing the material covering the filter the air pressure blows it so clean. Invest in a Air Compressor if you don’t have one it is a needed tool to have today. You have no idea how many vacuum cleaners I also fixed that someone would of thrown away because that air compressor came so handy to have. Air Pressure does wonders.

TL;DR: Get a disposable HEPA vacuum bag. You can reuse them by cutting open one end, then fold that edge over a few times and use a few big binder clips to secure it. Like a bag of chips. It works so much better than skimmer socks, it'll last way way longer, keeps the cartridge filter & motor ridiculously clean, makes switching between wet & dry super easy, no lungful of dust whenever you open the vacuum, and filters everything out before the air can get to the exhaust port. $20 solved basically every annoyance and health hazard with vacuuming (or rather, getting rid of the dirt and dust without it going everywhere) including drywall dust and fine particulate that most vacuums shouldn't handle. Even the annoyance of having to clean the outside of the vacuum because it gets covered in a layer of dust any time you open it. I haven't had to clean my cartridge filter at all since I switched to a HEPA bag (4+ years ago, it would need a monthly clean at minimum before then) or vacuum the vacuum itself right after I empty it. And every time I switch from dry to wet pickup. Vacuum bags are a game changer, especially when you use a HEPA filter bag as well as the HEPA cartridge filter. It's like the dirt disappears into a black hole, compared to the nightmare it is when you have to empty or clean a bagless vac. The full spiel: As a pool owner, I can promise you those skimmer socks will get a run in them just like pantyhose/knee highs. I spent a lot of time hunting down special synthetic mesh skimmer socks because the normal ones would rip within a week. (The synthetic mesh ones wouldn't work as a vacuum filter though) You can get fabric pre-filter bags for shop vacs that would do a much better job, but my double HEPA filter method makes the fabric pre-filter fairly unnecessary (see below - I was able to skip the muffler as well) I am picking up some skimmer socks for my shop vac tomorrow - but I use them over the foam filter for wet pickup. Makes rinsing the filter so much easier, rather than trying to pick out the layer of wet fur/hair/fibres from the foam filter. My solution? Go with a HEPA vacuum bag. Costs about the same as a pack of skimmer socks, lasts a hell of a lot longer, it'll stop more dust getting to the cartridge HEPA filter than a skimmer sock would,you can vac up drywall or fine particles without the dustopper, makes emptying the vacuum and switching between wet/dry pickup so much easier (and you don't end up inhaling a bunch of dust/dirt every time you open the vac canister) and they don't actually have to be disposable. When it's full, cut along one of the short edges, empty the bag, then fold that open end down a few times and secure with a few big binder clips. Seriously, that $20 HEPA bag has saved me so much time, frustration and coughing fits. I bought a pack of two well before the pandemic and the first one is still going strong! (I use the type H, yellow colour disposable hepa bags - there is a tougher tear resistant one, which I would probably buy next time, but mostly to compare with the yellow ones) I have vacuumed up broken glass, drywall, tiny bits of gravel, staples, needles, dry chlorine, baking soda, clay soil, bark... The list goes on. I am still surprised by how well it has held up, and am still a bit annoyed that I put up with the supposedly superior bagless vacuums for so long. The HEPA bag does a good enough job with drywall, chemicals and anything else that requires a P2/N95 mask. I can't compare it to a muffler, but I feel safer with two layers of HEPA filters and it's also way better on the motor and cartridge filter long term, as they stay pretty damn clean and there's no air restriction from the muffler or from the cartridge filter getting clogged up. I haven't tried a dustopper, just because I don't need the dust extraction functionality, and I'm more concerned with the very fine particles that a HEPA filter will catch. Dry chlorine powder is my benchmark for filtration - I had a commercial canister vacuum with a micron fabric filter, someone spilled a bit of chlorine and grabbed the vacuum instead of the broom. It picked up the chlorine granules, but the micron filter fabric couldn't stop the very fine particles from going straight through it, into the motor, and back out in the air. And the vacuum motor smelt like chlorine for months every time it ran after being coated in that very fine chlorine dust - which ended up being one of the reasons I bought the shop vac. HEPA filter handled chlorine just fine - I wouldn't have even tried it without the HEPA bag as well as the canister filter, because of that exhaust port. And as a side benefit, with 2 layers of HEPA filtration my shop vac could technically work as an air purifier. Just a very loud one. Works alright if you just want to turbo charge an air change, like when your kitchen exhaust fan would take ages to clear out a bit of smoke (btw, I have extremely bad allergies and I'm hypersensitive to chlorine - hence the minor obsession on the very fine particles and max filtration efficiency. When you get an instant migraine for the rest of the day because someone vacuumed briefly - you'll go to some lengths. Upside is the shop vac with all its filters is still the cheapest vacuum I've owned, and it beats the rest of them by far)

@HouseDoctorRay

2 жыл бұрын

Wow! Thank you for the thorough response and information.

@Petter1980

Жыл бұрын

Very interesting. It would be great if you made a video explaining the details of how your setup works. I would love to see it.

@dorothygriffin5898

Жыл бұрын

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@madmax8620

Жыл бұрын

Thanks captain assberger

@bread-gz3rl

Жыл бұрын

Only problem is that this craftsman can't take bags lmao

SuperVac! A few years ago I actually got a pool filter (on seasonal clearance) for my shop vac. It was cheaper than the correct filter. Far cheaper than the recommended wet filter. And it is an upgrade that has lasted and performed better.

I like your “hole punch”!

Wow, Ray, great ideas. I had no idea about the pool filter socks. Also, I usually slap on a pair of hearing protectors when using the shop vac. 95+ dB for an hour will result in hearing loss so your muffler build resulted in an impressive reduction. I think I’m going to do the whole Dustopper build like you showed. You took the humble shop vac to a whole new level.

@l.medina6251

Жыл бұрын

I use ear protection. Generally, if I need to use the shop vac it's AFTER I've cut a bunch of lumber & I NEVER run a tool w/o ear protection!

@riverraisin1

Жыл бұрын

What? Huh? Could you repeat that?☺☺

If you have a round shop vac like the Craftsman shown on your video. Look on the inside of the drum where the hose fitting comes into the drum. If the outlet of that hose fitting just comes straight in or is angled down, get a 90 degree pvc fitting of the same size and attach it to the inside of the fitting so as the air comes in it swirls around the drum the same way a cyclone does. It's a lot cheaper than the one you have that mounts on a bucket and works great.

The joy he showed when he smiled after he said I need to build a cart LOL. I laughed so hard. Thank you for the tips and tricks.

For the past 40 years I have just been cleaning my shopvac filter with a water [jet] spray and let it dry for a week or so. I have a second filter to swap in while the first one is drying. I really like the pool filter sock though. Thanks!

My shopvac hack is the use of a pool cleaning hose to replace the short standard shopvac hose. simple modification using the standard hose ends on the pool hose. vac now sits in one spot and the 30' hose covers more area. Plus I can put the vac outside and not have to listen to the noise.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Nice. For others, some hoses will whistle very loudly if they're not designed for vacuums.

Thank you for all these tips! Cleaning the filter is always an outdoor job for me. It’s not convenient when there is snow and cold outside. The pool filter sock and the dustopper will be addition to my shop this week!

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Keep it clean Jim!

@starlights50

6 ай бұрын

I put my filter in a plastic shopping bag while I shake/tap most of the dust off. then blow with the vac. Indeed usually outdoors.

Theres approximately 400 brilliant things going on in this vid. Love the clamp vacuum attachment for the drill press. Thanks a ton for all this.

I almost clicked "NEXT!" and its a good thing I didn't. Cuz you had some pretty good ideas there that I can use. The Pool Sock was a winner and that's all I thought you had. When you talked about adding that dust collector I almost clicked "NEXT" and its a good thing I didn't. Because your modification and the way you designed the collector to go over the top was surprisingly cool. So I've been for about a year now had thoughts of building a Thien-baffle cyclonic separator on my Craftsman 16gal shop vac. And your modification almost killed it but now I will build the Thien-Baffle cyclonic separator on my Craftsman and still build your modification to raise the tool storage at a height that negates having to bend over. Soooooooo Thanks for putting this up!

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I added a Thien Baffle to my Harbor Freight dust collector and it works great. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oJyjyLVsh63fnLw.html

I was impressed at how carefully you drilled the holes in the muffler. I would have just held the pipe with my foot and gone to town drilling a bunch of random holes! Lol.

The dust dustopper has worked really well for me. I've using it for over 2 years and highly recommend. I use a paint bucket and I also set another dustopper in a large 32g drum. In my experience, it works better then cyclone separator.

@HouseDoctorRay

2 жыл бұрын

Good to know. Thanks for posting.

@dougreames605

Жыл бұрын

I have a project I'm working on that your system might help with can I ask u some questions regarding this

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Sure. Fire away.

I am always amazed what a Man can invent when left alone in a shop. LOL, This is a great idea.

@HouseDoctorRay

22 күн бұрын

Thank you

Yes you have given me some good ideas, I would like to say that 99% of the time I clean my shop vac outside, and with an air hose I blow out my filter and the wind takes it all away. I also use a prefilter they sell for collecting drywall cement dust for regular use they last along time if not abused, I have a wet vac especially for wet and it had one of those wet vac filters. If I had a shop I'd definitely try your combo dust collecting idea and have maybe one dedicated vas per saw or have it plumbed for all saws. I'll definitely be shopping for some pool socks though , thanks👍

The dust collector you are using is acting more as a chip separator, actually, that’s exactly what it is. I built them using a 20 gallon bucket and pvc fittings. Works great!

I have the same 20 + year old vacuum! Picks up 16 common nails! Thank You for the tips! Excellent video.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately mine died. I replaced it with an orange one.

That dust topper thing looks pretty cool. I've been applying the same concept except I have the bucket inlet hose reach down to the bottom where it's submerged under water. It's definitely easier to clean & maintain, though you gotta remember to either keep the water level low or make sure you're in "wet" mode. It seems to me that it increases the power as well, though not ruling out wishful thinking. I also added a wye to the bucket portion of the suction w a flat piece of metal (or any material. I use a rubber cap inverted during use.) as a vent to reduce the motors work load during those short adjustment pauses. The suction does all the work of holding onto the flat cap which gives the added bonus of manually adjusting the rpm's by simply scooting the disc around till you get the preferred suction. It's s also cumbersome, esp for wide area jobs so I'm gonna apply that cool tray you've got there, solving my storage wrinkle as well. Currently, I just have an assortment of different lengths of hose w the goal being stationary vacuum, portable bucket. I'm curious how it performs compared to that prefab topper, though. Would you consider a comparison vid?

I generally get the good Hepa washable filters and the trick is to keep those things as clean as possible then your Shop-Vac will run at top performance always. And don't forget to remove them if you're sucking up water

Spray the entire vacuum with a good protectant like 303 or no low sheen armor all. Inside and out, even inside the hoses and pipes. Obviously, start with a very clean vac! The layer of protectant keeps static electricity from building up, so dust sheds easily. Cleanup is so much easier.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Is this wizardry you speak of true Wallace? I've never heard this before but it sounds like it would work.

@wallacegrommet9343

Жыл бұрын

Works quite well, and its cheap, too. A little of these protectant products goes a long way. In some cases, I have observed treated plastic surfaces repelling adhesive pads a year later. Which isn’t exactly what I wanted, but it illustrates how long lasting the protection is. But everything has to be clean prior to treatment. I worked in fire damage cleanup, and our machinery would be covered with smoke and ash at conclusion of project, which took a while to clean, and even then contamination remained. After treatment with a protectant, almost no dirt, smoke, or soot would adhere.

Subscribed. Retired tractor trailer owner operator here who just got a new shop vac. Enjoyed your instruction.

@HouseDoctorRay

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you and thanks for the subscription.

Pool Filter Sock alternative. Nylon Wig Caps 6 for $5. I use them on my pool filter basket all the time.

Great video, thanks! I found heftier shop vac filter socks at Walmart and Home Depot for around $6-7 each, and found pool skimmer socks on-line for around $4 for 30 (much thinner material). Looking forward to trying them out and saving time, effort, and dust clouds when brushing and air-blowing out the 100 flaps on the shop-vac filter. Thanks again!

Man, this is pure gold! I just picked up a rigid shop vac and the first thing I thought about was man that filter is going to be a PITA to get clean. Thank you sir!

@nickrusso86

Жыл бұрын

Ridgid sells vacuum cleaner bags for their shop vacs. They work amazingly well, last a very long time, and you’ll never need to clean your filter again. The vacuum also never looses suction with the bags.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

I'll bet using the Dustopper before the bag will really help out.

I'm currently in the "how can I make my dust collection work better" phase. Going to implement all of these Ideas. Thanks for the inspiration. EDIT: I bought the dustopper about 3 weeks ago and can attest that pulling it and the shop-vac around the garage is difficult... at best. And I'm adding a Hepa filter and hepa bags to the scum sock idea, as well as your exhaust filter, in an attempt to get as many particles out of the air as possible.

@HouseDoctorRay

27 күн бұрын

Post back how the bag works out. I bought one but it's still in the box.

Great job! I bet that would attach to a sander just great! No mess to clean up after sanding! Thanks!❤

I’m pretty meticulous with my pleated filters. I actually vacuum my pleated filter using a second bagged wet/dry vacuum. I find this the only way to really clean the pleated filter. You did a really great job constructing the dustopper cart!

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@cheeseheadfiddle

Жыл бұрын

Air compressor makes a filter like new.

Great video! I always swap the power cord with a longer one. Just keep your eye out for an old house vacuum cleaner in the trash and cut the cord. Swap takes about 5 mins.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Good idea. I often cut the cord off of old appliances or tools and save it for repairs or upgrades.

@riverraisin1

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Vacuum cords are long and heavy duty. I always save them.

I also have the 15 year old Craftsman 16 gallon shop vac. At work we adapted a 55 gallon metal drum for a reservoir for the vacuum. We mounted the the suction and exhaust on the top and hooked the exhaust to the vacuum it worked great for a large storage of water when vacuuming. Put the drum on a cart or we used a forklift and a pallet. One time one of the maintenance guys tried to draw the water up 15 feet out of a tank and after a minute or two it caved in the 55 gal. drum like it was tinfoil. Vacuum has a lot of power when dead headed.

Good job! You not only found ways to quiet and improve the shop vac but you also improved the design to make it functional. It would have been nice to see how well the dustopper worked on picking up water. It would be a complete win if you don't have to take off the filter

@HouseDoctorRay

3 ай бұрын

I would always take off the filter when sucking up water. There will be water in the airstream and will reach the filter. Any dirt on the filter will turn into a pasty mess.

For those with smaller shop vac setups, who want that cyclone separator action (like the dustopper; it is just one of many available cyclone separator designs on the market).. but with a MUCH smaller footprint. There exist in-line cyclone separators. I got one by Cen-Tec called the Turbo Duster. You put it in line with the vacuum hose; personally I chose to put it at the end of my flexible hose right before I put the hose pipes and whatever attachments. I have a 1 and 1/4" size shop vac hose, which is the smaller size and often the same size as standard household vacuum hoses (meaning can use most household vacuum attachments on the shop vac hose) +I can use the Turbo Duster with the included adapter for my shop vac, but if you have a larger size hose you may need to check specs and/or get an adapter. The Turbo Duster is small, which is both the advantage AND potentially a con; it will cyclone separate but only holds a plastic cup's worth of whatever you're vacuuming. I personally prefer it because we're low on space, +if I need to vacuum a lot the cup is quite easy to empty (twist on/off). But if you're doing a lot of volume with sawdust etc. it will probably irritate you how small it is so for that better to use the larger options. Just figured would mention since I think there are probably some other people like me, who want the flexibility of a shop wet/dry vac with cyclone separation, but who have very little space available; where a 5 gallon bucket sized system in addition to the vacuum size itself is too large or bulky to be workable.

@Mavrik9000

Жыл бұрын

Do you mean the Cen-Tec Systems 58577 Turbo Duster that says "Turbo Dust Filter" on the box?

WOW very impressive. I bought a used Craftsman and even without the filter installed it didn't have any sucking though the motor sounded robust but straining. I removed the motor from the top housing and found a thin micro filter presumably to stop dust from going out the exhaust. Anyway once I cleaned that thin filter I had a relatively perfect suction. Also the pool sock is a great idea, I used womens nylon back when they were a thing. Seemed there was no shortage of them since they were easily snagged. Great video, looking forward to more.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Kenneth.

I'm always inventing things on the job as a carpenter but these three hacks are great ideas I've not thought of but definitely going to adopt

I'm a beekeeper. A quiet shop vac is what I'm looking for. Thanks for the info!

Great video, thanks for taking the time. Not sure if someone covered this but for what it's worth, 10 dB is though to be about half (or twice) as loud. The dB (or deci-Bell) was developed at Bell Labs (AT&T). Since the human ear can discern sounds over an obscenely large range of energy (about a factor of a billion) they used the logarithmic scale. The Bell is very big, so they use the deci-Bell or dB, which is one tenth of a bell. For the record, every 3 dB is double the power but your ear can barely discern it. 10 dB is 10 times the power which sounds about "twice" as loud. Thanks again.

@HouseDoctorRay

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks JAZ, and thanks for watching.

@robertopenheimer1451

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately you are wrong. -3db is half, 10db would be 10 fold.

@jazbuilding

Жыл бұрын

@@robertopenheimer1451 Thanks for the comment, but you didn't seem to read my point carefully or understand it. You're talking about power levels which hardly anyone cares about other than engineers. It's true -3dB is half the power and -10 dB is one tenth. To the human ear, which most people care about, 10 dB is thought to be about twice as loud, -10 dB is about half as loud. Once typically can't "hear +/- 3dB.

@hugegamer5988

Жыл бұрын

@@robertopenheimer1451 @@jazbuilding human ears are so good they have a 10 million times difference in power between the quietest and loudest they can hear. Simply making the sound energy half hardly reduces the noise heard because the ear is so incredibly good at hearing.

@robertopenheimer1451

Жыл бұрын

@@hugegamer5988 I am capable of easily discerning a 3db shift, if you cannot your ears are not as good as you believe. I was in charge of the lab for a major loudspeaker manufacturer. The lab included an anechoic chamber and sophisticated anechoic testing and graphing. I believe I am qualified to make my comment. Hearing is subjective, properly set up and calibrated equipment is not.

Why have I not came across your channel, until today? Great tips, that actually work. Thank you so much.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Thanks RD and thanks for watching

Great idea for the Muffler Will be building one this weekend.

I use a sock made from a flour bag for me by a neighbor 40 years ago. Filters for my craftsman cost $30 in Canada and has this sock has saved me hundreds over the years. Take the sock of and then blow the filter off with an air compressor and it is like new again.

I did the dual 5g bucket diy dust cyclone. I tried using a single but I think the height helps with separation. I also made a cart but regardless it's not fun to move around. My solution was buying a 20ft hose so I don't have to move the contraption around

@kevinoneill41

Жыл бұрын

The more hose the less suction you have. Somthing to do with friction drag but I haven't noticed it with my 2" line

@A6Legit

Жыл бұрын

@@kevinoneill41 Mines a 2.5" hose. For regular vacuuming I don't notice any difference. If you need the most suction you can get I might use a shorter hose. Hard to say if there's a noticeable difference

@meetshield2461

Жыл бұрын

I was gonna comment something similar on the dust cyclone. I got a dewalt version of the cyclone and use it on a 5 gallon bucket connected to a central vac. Works pretty well and a lot cheaper than a full dust collection system, for anyone interested.

Good stuff! I like that you tested the dust collector on sawdust to see how effective it is, and how you solved the unwieldiness of it with a simple "up" grade 😂. The pool socks are gold, such a great idea! I'm finding some today!! Here's my tip: I use a wireless remote switch to control the vacuum. I keep the little remote (size of a FOB) near the inlet of the hose so I can turn it on like a flashlight. Which works well for cleaning chips off the lathe and milling machines. Regarding sound: You're right about decibels, they are logarithmic. It works out that for every 3 dBa, power is doubled. So 87 dBa is 1/2 the energy of 90, and 93 dBa is 4X the energy level of 87. Here's some levels to consider. 10 dBa - a pin dropping 30 dBa - whisper 60 dBa - conversation 85 dBa - snowblower, diesel truck passing (also damage hearing after 8 hrs) 90 dBa - squeeze toy, mower 105 dBa - table saw 140 dBa - jet engine at takeoff (eardrum rupture) 180 dBa - rocket launch 194 dBa - shock wave threshold, when "sound" can liquefy soft tissue

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Good info. Thanks for sharing.

@christopherjohnson1414

Жыл бұрын

i listen to my music at 400dBa , its soothing

@teatonaz

Жыл бұрын

“ Liquefy soft tissue “. Whoa,… I got a bad visual on that one. Whew. Great vid. Sub’ed.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much.

I have to say, you did the best dust filtration add-on test I’ve seen on any hack your shopvac vids. Most of those throw down a jar’s worth of cat hair, or a cup of shop dust. Not you! Oh no! You bring in a full BUCKET of fine sawdust. I was a bit afraid of what was going to happen. I have a dust deputy, but that demo makes me want this one. Bravo!

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I actually used too much. Once the Dustopper gets close to full the dust can no longer fall because the bucket is full. It works better if you empty it sooner.

I have a large shop vac and a much smaller one for portability. I also use the small one to clean the filter of the big one, then use the big one to clean the filter of the small one. Prevents a lot of mess.

The sock is a great addition. When the dustvac filter gets clogged with fine particles it can be cleaned - just go over the outside with another vacuum cleaner and a small nozzle.

@HouseDoctorRay

2 жыл бұрын

Good idea.

@TheRanxerox

2 жыл бұрын

Or throw it in the laundry?

@penalty5992

Жыл бұрын

It's just shopvacs all the way down, a pyramid scheme

Best ideas for the shop vac I have seen...period!

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Bill. I really appreciate it.

Want it quiet? Replace the motor bushing with a bearing. I did, huge difference. Going on 10 years now.

@LG-ct8tw

Ай бұрын

What kind of bearing?

Thank you so much for this video! You've addressed all my concerns except the tip over issue but one of the comments said to put paver stones in the shop vac to stabilize it. I going to try that. This video is so helpful, thanks again.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Let us know if the paver works.

What's cool about vacuum systems is it doesn't matter how large of a volume you have for the internals of the vacuum system like the addition of extra hoses and that bucket and all that won't decrease your suction so long as it's not restrictive. I took a tiny like 2 gal shop vac and made a central vac system in my work truck so I have a remote turns it on and have 4 different ports I can connect to. The dust bucket is a good idea I might add that in.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

They really do work well. Can't recommend them enough.

@A6Legit

Жыл бұрын

In general it seems like larger capacity vacs have higher HP motors. Definitely do the dust bucket or DIY one. It's easier to empty debris from, however the filter will still get clogged with all the fine particles. It just keeps the bulk of it out of the vacuum so you don't have to mess with bags or try dumping the vac with all the accessories attached to it.

Good video. My noise hack is having bought a set of those noise-canceling earbuds. They're so effective I can listen to a podcast or music comfortably even at low volume while running a shop vac, household vacuum cleaner or any other noisy tool. Some of the best money I've ever spent. Edit: Decibels are logarithmic, that is correct, but so are our ears. So while a 10dB increase in sound is actually ten times the sound energy, we generally perceive it as roughly double the volume. Twenty decibels would be 100x sound energy and four times the subjective volume level; thirty decibels 1000x and eight times, and so on.

I see this video is a year old and it was suggested to me why I don’t know I wasn’t looking at shop vac stuff. However, these are great suggestions. As far as the muffler goes, I found the best way to minimize noise is to have two hoses I have a 30 foot hose I use for vacuuming attached to the inlet and then I have a 16 foot that I ran out the garage door and it’s amazing how much it decreases the sound.

@HouseDoctorRay

10 ай бұрын

We were meant for each other Wally. The same thing you mentioned applies to compressors. I've seen quite a few times people plumbing the inlet outside to reduce the noise.

When I set up my small wood shop ,I set up a vacume tube thatwent all around the shop with several out lets, I set the shop vack at one end of the shop connected to that end of the tube, then plug the hose into what ever out let is closest to where I need to vacume, works great and only have to move the hose from outlet to outlet as needed.

That is very good tips, I've been a carpenter and cabinet maker for 30 years and I'm always working and doing, but never trying too improve my situation, thank you for that, 👍.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Steven and thanks for watching.

That's pretty slick. Think I may have to build something similar. Thanks for the tips!

@HouseDoctorRay

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Brad.

Mister you are a genius. I retire in a year and 8 months and wanted to refinish use furniture. This will help with keeping my garage tidy. Thank you.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much.

I’m glad you posted this I’m fixing both of my shop vacs thanks for sharing

The hammer one the bucket to make the whole gave me a real “this old Tony vibe” love it!

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

That's a great compliment. Thank you.

I like how models show HP ratings of 5 and 6 when in America the plug has 120V @ 15A max meaning 1800 watts max or 2.4 HP And that’s at a 100% efficiency. To get 5+ you need 200% efficiency, with a couple of vacuums hooked together you could have perpetual motion.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of the small engine lawsuit years ago. Now lawn and garden equipment is sold by CCs and not HP.

@hugegamer5988

Жыл бұрын

@@HouseDoctorRay we used to joke that small gas engines were rated in Hamster Power.

Great stuff! DBs are logarithmic. Every 3db is a doubling or halving. The 97 to 87 decrease means you halved and then halved it again, plus reduced it further.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I didn't know decibelologists watched @HouseDoctorRay.

@pen25

Жыл бұрын

Of power required not actual sound. Meaning it takes twice as much power to make 3db increase or reducing power by half. This redirected the sound and honestly isn't much reduction. Still harmful to hearing without hearing protection. So say you have 100 watt amp and your stereo makes 91 db. You would need 200 to increase volume to 94. 400 to reach 97 db 800 to reach 100. In this case it has nothing to do with reduction in sound. This just changed pitch most of the noise is coming from the motor itself.

Hey Ray, hubby sent me this link and I'm so glad. As a woodturner I have to deal with a LOT of dust.. especially while sanding. I've looked at the dust collector and have seen folks do a setup with it on a cart next to the vacuum. My vacuum is HUGE so it would take up a LOT of floor space. I love your stacked idea. Another problem I've had it the noise. Your muffler is terrific! I've been trying to figure out how I would work the system so it would be quieter. Looks like a I have a project in store. Great video. Thanks.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Suzette, keep spinning.

@justincox4194

Жыл бұрын

Craftsman actually makes a muffler/baffle for their shop-vacs. Super nice and small.

The dust collector cart was a great build, thanks for the idea. Please keep your free hand behind the saw because if it hits a knot or foreign object and the saw jumps you’ll lose it.

To improve further and provide more filter surface area, use a catch bag inside of vac. Since most of the debris will be in your cyclone your vac will remain very clean and bonus is that it works better than your sock, less restriction, I basically never have to clean filter.

@jamestate3839

6 ай бұрын

I don't understand what you're saying. How does a catchbag keep the filter clean?

@GoggleAX

5 ай бұрын

@@jamestate3839possibly because the bag itself is also a filter.

The difference of an inline filter like the dust stopper, or a cyclonic centrifugal filter makes a HUGE change to what actually gets through to the shopvac...certainly made a difference catching a lot of the finer dusts that clog up the vac filter so quickly. Great video by the way...loved the pool filter sock hack...will certainly be adding that to mine. Cheers from Sydney Aus!!!!

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Yes, Dustopper or even a homemade separator goes a long way in keeping the filter clean.

Amazing setup. I had been thinking about dragging a dust separator around on a cart or rigging up something to stack it on top and it was super satisfying to watch you have the same thought process and then execute an absolutely perfect modification for yours. I will probably do the exact same mod to put my dust collector on top. I was struggling with the idea because it would be too tall to stand upright in my truck bed with the camper top but with your rig it could be easily disconnected for transport. The only things I would add to this are using/ re using vacuum bags, weighing down the base, and maybe even putting a type of cloth cover, such as your pool filter cover, over the muffler as well. Thanks for the video!

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. A lot of people have commented about using a big patio block for weight inside the vac.

I have been using the dustopper for a few years on drywall. It works great. I have mine on a small pull cart, but I might need to build one like yours.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

FYI, it's a little top heavy. You may need to drop a steel plate or dumbbell weight in your vac so you can drag it around without it tipping over.

Cool idea for the two stage vacuum. Thanks! EDIT: As far as the muffler goes, you can buy one cheaper that is much smaller and I think it works as well the one you built. The sock is a cool idea but, they sell a package of paper socks that go over the filter.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ralph. Do they sell those paper socks in the store or is it online only?

@gerrylopez5743

Жыл бұрын

Great ideas. Thanks for sharing.

@riverraisin1

Жыл бұрын

@@HouseDoctorRay I've bought cloth socks specifically made for shop vacs online. But it's been a few years since and I don't remember which site they were on. Most likely ebay.

excellent tips..thank you for sharing knowledge and most of all for not having annoying music in the background...

Adding the pool filter is key, thank you!

Gave me a pretty good chuckle. You had dust suction for the drill press while drilling holes in the "muffler" and were creating large plastic non threatening chunks of plastic, but while using a circular saw on a track, fine dust was going everywhere. On another note, I had one of those wet/dry Craftsman vacuums back in 2000 and with about 10 minutes on it the motor caught fire which ignited the plastic at the top of the lid.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

In my defense that saw has no port on it so I have no easy way to hook up a vacuum.

To clean my filter, I take it outside and toss it around the lawn a few times. Makes it really clean.

@Z1082

Жыл бұрын

I thought that was just me...

Great video. I am surprised you did not mention a filter bag in the wet dry vac. Keeps your filter clean, makes dumping cleaner and you can almost completely fill your vac. Yes they cost but they are reasonable.

@A6Legit

Жыл бұрын

With the cyclone collector you don't really need it. It's not worth the cost to me at $10 a bag (Ridgid). If you only use your vac occasionally it might be worth it, but wood working can fill a 5g bucket pretty quick

@erictjones

Жыл бұрын

@@A6Legit Agreed! The cyclone is a game changer. They used to only make them for 55 gallon drums. I mainly use bags for drywall dust because it was a shop vac killer. Great stuff!

@A6Legit

Жыл бұрын

@@erictjones Fair point, it depends what youre vacuuming

Brilliant. I will definitely apply these modifications to my newly purchased shop vac. Well made video! Easy to follow. Great job thank you 👍🏼

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, you're very kind.

Good idea I would put it on the side. Put nylon pool filter on filter to keep fine dust off too

I give it a 99! I would give it 100, but you didn't paint the orange bucket red to match the shopvac! Haha. Great job! You are very innovative!

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Since I made the video my vac finally died. I bought an orange one to match the bucket.

A two minute KZread video on how to make baffles will help with mufflers. I did just about everything you did when it came to constructing mine, but I went ahead and inserted a core with baffles/chambers to reduce the sound profile. I think a lot of people get sucked into the decibel rating instead of directing the sound i.e. air

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

You're right but it kind of made it look all scientificky.

Thanks for the tips. I recently bought the new Dewalt shop vac. It is half as loud as my shop vac, worth every penny. Like other comments, I use a hepa bag and filter. I really like your tower, and will be adding that next.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

At the grocery store I was really impressed with the Milwaukee vac. They were using it to vacuum out the potato bins and it was really quiet.

Thank you for sharing these innovative ideas to improve the function of my shop vac. This project is now on my list. I WILL be sourcing the necessary parts in order to follow your lead. I will be making a trip to The Orange Store tomorrow. Thanks again. All the best.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully the prices of PVC are back to normal. Last time I needed some it was triple!

That cyclone results is great. But it tells me that the underlying design of the vacuum needs to change to a dual chamber design - perhaps one for dry and one for wet?

I plan on doing all of your modifications to my shop. So glad I found your feed. Everything you improved 10 fold. Awesome work man,thanks for sharing

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much and thanks for watching.

Personally, I completely jumped on board when they came out with the large canister filters that line the barrel. They save your pleated filter's life exponentially and depending on the quality, they catch almost everything fine. Test with sheetrock dust....that's always a good litmus test. On the older shop vacs that weren't designed for the barrel liners, often you can retrofit them to work. Just copy how the newer style works with the liner bags and try something on your older vacs that will replicate that. One time I retrofitted an older Craftsman shop vac just by fitting a smaller piece of ABS pipe into the intake and calking around it. The liner barrel bag fits over that inside. Been using it that way for yrs, although it doesn't give completely full flow like the original barrel intake opening. Hasn't been an issue with suction, but large pieces seem to hang up more.

the last idea with the cart was very clever, looking forward to more.

The Dustopper is great especially for stationary use. The cart's a great hack for portable. The muffler won't catch the most damaging dust. You can get paper bag filters for many wet/dry vacs and a genuine 0.3 micron high efficiency for the exhaust air. The paper filter protects the expensive high efficiency filter and protects you -- just throw the full bag in the dumpster without having to kick up any dust. A Dustopper could protect the paper bag, especially with bulky, basically non-toxic stuff like wood. The bags would "never" fill up. If you're working with lead paint dust or silica dust at your own house and not subject to federal regulation, you can duct tape the lid on the vac, along with the bag and high efficiency filter. My calibrated eyeballs don't see anything at all floating in the air, but maybe you want an N-95 as well. When I can, I throw an exhaust hose out a window. Might be able to tape the Dustopper too (don't know, don't have one). DeWalt makes a dust collection kit for their circle saws that kinda clamps over the dust port on the blade guard. You put your vac hose on it. You can probably get them for other saws. I don't have one. There are kits for people who saw cement board and do tuckpointing that usually enshroud most of the business end of the tool. Well done. Stay safe.

@HouseDoctorRay

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the thoughtful comments. I'll look into it.

Great idea, I like doing thinks like this too. Did something similar with a propane infrared heater that normally mounts on a wall. I made a cart with a wood wall in the center of the cart to mount the heater to and a propane tank sits on the other side of the wooden wall. Now it’s a portable heater I can easily move around most anywhere. Use it in the house when needed and out in the garage when I’m working when it’s cold. Those empire infrared heaters are great BTW, mine over 20 years old and has never failed to work and the one I have has 5 ceramic panels that really throws out a heck of a lot of heat! 99% efficiency rating and many safety sensors to keep you safe!

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Now all the do gooders are going to flame you for running propane inside. Meanwhile half the houses in my development have propane furnaces.

@otpyrcralphpierre1742

Жыл бұрын

@@HouseDoctorRay Propane house furnaces exhaust outside, the infrared ones do not.(that I know of)

I put some water in the bottom of the shop vacuum to catch fine dust particles etc.. then pour into a trash bag. I spray the filter down with a fine mist from my garden hose into the vacuum bucket. I dump this into trash bag as well .

I thought it may have been a good idea to test the dust collector BEFORE you built a stand for it.. Im glad it worked out!.. I may get one when I do a dust collector system in the basement shop. Good work man!

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. You may want to look into a full size dust collector if you're setting up in the house. The one Harbor Freight sells is a good unit. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oJyjyLVsh63fnLw.html

I think that the pool filter sock is going to reduce the filter surface area by a large amount. There's a reason that the filter is pleated and that is to increase the surface area of the filter. If that sock decreases the surface area by a factor of 5 or 10 you will have to stop working and clean it 5 or 10 times as often.

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

The filter sock just makes it easier to do a quick clean. Bang the Vac a little and most of it falls down.

I started the build, but got stuck on making the hole for the bucket in the mdf. Already destroyed two hd buckets using diffrent sizes hammers.

@HouseDoctorRay

2 жыл бұрын

You have to practice. You need the harmonic frequency just right.

@knot4man

Жыл бұрын

HD buckets are inferior. Get one from motor oil or hydraulic oil, or paint. Darker colors resist UV light better than ones from restaurant dishwashing or sanitizer solutions. I call it " ultraviolent radiation." Keep all plastics away from it as much as possible .

Love the pool sock

Great minds think alike. I built this same cart for my separator 5 years ago. Also extended the on/off switch to the top of the platform. :)

@HouseDoctorRay

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately the vac in the video died and I switched to Ridgid. It's lighter than the Craftsman so I may need to drop a dumbbell weight in the bottom. It's a little unstable.

@cuttheloop

Жыл бұрын

@@HouseDoctorRay I have the Rigid, and that's exactly what I did. Old 10# plate.

@atomicdetailsoc

Жыл бұрын

@@HouseDoctorRay they don't make them like they used too...I hope my 25 year old craftsman still kicks for many years, I would hate to buy an item like that in the time of planned obsolescence where build quality is doo doo these days