The sound of the Lord walking in the garden could have been the pre existent Lord.

@PostApostolicChurch

3 жыл бұрын

I agree!

This is how Jesus was written. As the personification of the word of God manifest in every born again son.

Thank you

Thanks again. Awesome series. This one is difficult to understand.

@PostApostolicChurch

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree. I find that this video ties most with the previous video about understanding God's nature and existence. While God has revealed many things to us in Scripture, there is so many more things that we cannot fully understand. God bless!

Every appearance of God personified was Jesus, for, the Scriptures say “He is the image of the Invisible God”

Genesis 3:8 in the kjv says that it was the voice of the lord god walking I took that to mean Jesus the word

@choicegospelnetwork

4 жыл бұрын

Did he say Jesus ? Isn't Jesus a person of flesh and blood ?

@AD-en5dq

4 жыл бұрын

@@choicegospelnetwork Jesus the Son of God is the eternal everlasting word of God that I referenced in Gen 3:8(And they heard the VOICE(WORD) of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God(established as the Voice of God earlier) amongst the trees of the garden.) and in Targum of Jonathan 3:8 And they heard the VOICE OF THE WORD OF THE LORD GOD walking in the garden in the repose of the day; and Adam and his wife hid themselves from before the Lord God among the trees of the garden. even more explicit so you see your question is both ignorant and presumptuous because for you to say Jesus who you correctly observe to be a man of flesh and blood in his human nature are using his humanity that which he put on to be a ransom for many(Philippians 2:7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.) to deny his divinity or his equally with and as God so let me ask you a question now if Jesus become a human and took on a nature what was his nature before that?

@wapperjaw8282

Ай бұрын

@@AD-en5dq When the scriptures speak of Jesus ... there is absolutely nothing in scripture saying Jesus is eternal! I find it very odd how you interpret Philippians 2:7! It utterly amazes me how people don't consider the context of what Paul is teaching! He is not identifying Jesus nature as God Almighty! Being in the same form does not mean they are the same person, anymore than a human father and son having the same form mean they are the same person. There is not one scripture saying anything of being in the same form means they are the same or equal as a Trinity god. *First* the KJV say’s in Php 2:6 “Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:” implying Jesus nature is the same as being God and equal to God. But modern Bible have correct this error saying, “Who, being in the form of God, *did not count equality with God something to be grasped.”* NJB (a Catholic Bible Translation) One (KJV) translation says Jesus is equal to God the other (NJB) says they are not equal. *Which one is correct?* The correct translation can be determine considering the context of Paul teaching! Verse 3-5 Paul is teaching Christians to be humble, serve or treat others as superior, and uses Jesus as an example. The KJV does not make a bit of sense ! *Are Christians to think of themselves as equal to God in the same so-call manner of Jesus according to the KJV?* The KJV is obviously an error. Jesus never thought of himself as equal to God. If Paul believed Jesus was equal to God then what Paul is teaching makes not a bit of sense for Christians to have the same mind and think they are equal to God. Thus your reasoning in Php 2:7 also makes no sense concerning the context of Paul teaching ... There is not one scripture identifying Jesus is or part of a trinity god, "for the Father is greater than I am." - John 14:28

God is creator to all creation but Father to cognitive minds !

I sure heard this at the Catholic Church

the reality is this ... we are made in god's image. if god wanted you to see him ... you could.

@amandaleebee98

3 жыл бұрын

He gave us the rationality to seek him and find him within. If we all saw him and knew him, then everyone would accept him and there wouldn’t be God’s children. He wants us to choose Him 💓

@grayman7208

3 жыл бұрын

@@amandaleebee98 of course.

I wonder if the question of gender can be addressed by remembering the origin of “female,” which is to say “woman,” which is to say “from the man.” Feminine is “from” the masculine, and God is the Masculine from which man’s masculinity comes, just as man is the “male” from which woman has “female.” This seems better than saying He is neither male nor female. He is more than male and female, but He is masculine. In fact, human genders have no meaning at all by themselves. Their nature is found one with respect to the other, just as our manliness has no meaning without God’s godliness. It is the relationship of one with the other that gives the individual thing meaning. And, in this case, God’s masculinity also has meaning, which is one of preeminence, both before and above us all.

@davidm.7844

4 жыл бұрын

It would be fine to speak of man without woman, since man came first, but it makes no sense at all to speak of woman without reference to man, since woman is derived from man. Linguistically and historically (biblically) this seems right.

@wapperjaw8282

Ай бұрын

Not sure what your getting at ... appears to me your over analyzing it. Human are two gender ... male and female. Male came first then God made the female from a body part from the man. Masculine is having qualities or an appearance traditionally associated with men or boys. Feminine is having qualities or an appearance traditionally associated with women or girls. God is not male and he of course is not female. But God and all the heavenly creature have references to the masculine, and not to the feminine. When the Angels forsook their dwelling places and came to earth they to the form of human men to have wives. When Angels came to earth to speak to men they again took on the human form of men. When God sent his Son and transferred his life into the womb of Mary he is born a male. Some churches due to woman influence want to use non-gender terms and expressions rejecting the Biblical use of masculine references to God! But this is foolish. Shortly before his death, Jesus, specifically used the Aramaic word Abba, meaning “Father,” when praying to Jehovah God. (Mark 14:36) Similarly, the apostle Paul used this word to convey the intimate relationship between spirit-anointed Christians and their heavenly Father, Jehovah. (Romans 8:15; Galatians 4:6) If, therefore, Jesus taught his disciples to pray saying, “Our Father in the heavens,” should not all Christians today do the same? - Matthew 6:9. There is no masculine none gender term for Father ...

You've given me much to consider and would like to say thank you. Abba was how Jesus addressed God, yes? At a certain point it is not profitable to question but acceptance of what cannot be fully comprehended is very important, to my faith at least. I can trouble myself for no good reason. Are we not warned against morbid philosophy in Colossians chapter two? Though I do not mean to say this presentation is morbid. Both. I pray to God who cares without going overboard and also accept God is not a man that He should be tempted. Job. Need I say anything more? So I find questioning God, if He cares and so forth, is not profitable to my faith.

yer better than church, now if we could jst get a don francisco song before and after and a cup of wine & some crackers we'd have it better than maost services I've been too. as well. some people use religion as a crutch, some use it as a purse, i'd like to think religion would make us unvisible to the newodrder

Human understanding of Spiritual World was/is so poor, language is just an other barier, not too mention low IQ, mental blindness, wrong assumptions, etc.

@dwighthawkins5955

3 жыл бұрын

At the birth of psychology, psych.. meant soul. The study of soul. Time and nefarious deeds reduced soul to brain/mind/behavior. Soul got kicked out of the def.

@wapperjaw8282

Ай бұрын

@@dwighthawkins5955 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. KJV

John himself said that you can see God. Don’t wrest the scriptures to destruction

@PostApostolicChurch

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for commenting. God forbid anyone use the Scriptures to destruction. Will you explain more what you mean, please? Here is what I understand from John. John said that no one can see God the Father (John 1:18). John also said that you can see the God the Son (John 1:14). God bless you!

@RoseSharon7777

3 жыл бұрын

@@PostApostolicChurch Jesus is the personification of the SPOKEN WORD of God manifest in ALL his born again children. It was a literary message that was literalized by the catholic church which led us into believing in the trinity which is an abomination. Jesus is within us because the WORD of God is formed within us not a man. No man can be God Almighty Hosea 11:9. Its pure literary personification used throughout the OT. This is why we were told we would be deceived by a strong delusion that even the very elect could be deceived (if possible) into worshipping a false image or false christ. We were warned by Jer 8.8 that the scribes would write to deceive us and indeed they did. But Yhwh said the spirit of truth would return at the latter rain to reveal all thats been hidden from us and his sheep would hear his voice.

@wapperjaw8282

Ай бұрын

Where? John said that no person can see God. Said it again 1 John 4:12. God told Moses, “You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live.” - Ex 33:20

@wapperjaw8282

Ай бұрын

@@PostApostolicChurch God forbid anyone to use the Scriptures to destruction. You never see the term God the Son in scripture. And John 1:14 is not teaching how we see God. We can never see God with our eye ... no human person would survive! Ex 33:20

So I see even after the apostles death the teaching of God have gone beyond the scriptures. King Solomon made this request to Jehovah God in prayer: “May you yourself hear from the heavens, your established place of dwelling.” (1 Kings 8:30, 39) According to the Bible, then, Jehovah God has a place, a location of dwelling. Solomon referred to that place as “the heavens”, that is the spiritual heavens. GOD is fittingly described as omnipotent and omniscient-almighty and all-knowing. Yet, when attempting further to describe God’s greatness, some add a third term-omnipresent. The belief that God is present everywhere and in everything simultaneously. As Paul corrected 2 false teachings concerning the resurrection, if he was still alive he would have corrected this view also! *God is more powerful than people think ... he does not need to be omnipresent!* While none of these descriptive terms are found in the Bible, the first two are clearly supported by Scriptural teachings. (Genesis 17:1; Hebrews 4:13; Revelation 11:17) God is indeed omnipotent, and he is omniscient in the sense that nothing can be hidden from him. *But is he omnipresent?* Is God everywhere, in everything, or is he a person with a specific dwelling place? The Father and true God is not omnipresent, for he is spoken of as having a location. (1Ki 8:49; Joh 16:28; Heb 9:24) His throne is in heaven. (Isa 66:1) He is all-powerful, being the Almighty God. (Ge 17:1; Re 16:14) “All things are naked and openly exposed to the eyes of him,” and he is “the One telling from the beginning the finale.” (Heb 4:13; Isa 46:10, 11; 1Sa 2:3) *His power and knowledge extend everywhere, reaching every part of the universe.-2Ch 16:9; Ps 139:7-12; Am 9:2-4. That does not mean he is everywhere at the same time!* The true God is spirit, not flesh (Joh 4:24; 2Co 3:17), though he sometimes likens his attributes of sight, power, and so forth, to human faculties. Thus he speaks figuratively of his “arm” (Ex 6:6), his “eyes,” and his “ears” (Ps 34:15), and he points out that, since he is the Creator of human eyes and ears, he certainly can see and hear.-Ps 94:9. Some of God’s primary attributes are love (1Jo 4:8), wisdom (Pr 2:6; Ro 11:33), justice (De 32:4; Lu 18:7, 8), and power (Job 37:23; Lu 1:35). He is a God of order and of peace. (1Co 14:33) He is completely holy, clean and pure (Isa 6:3; Hab 1:13; Re 4:8); happy (1Ti 1:11); and merciful (Ex 34:6; Lu 6:36). Many other qualities of his personality are described in the Scriptures. *Modern Bibles that say God repented are very poor translations in my opinion!* Especially by today meaning! One repenting implies they are a sinner.

Any appearance of God in the OT is the Son

@PostApostolicChurch

Жыл бұрын

Bingo! :)

GOD HAS A SEEABLE BODY: 1 John 3:2 “Beloved, now are we the ​​​sons​ of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall ​​​appear​, WE SHALL BE LIKE HIM; for we shall ​​​see​ him as he is.” Hebrews 1:3 “Who being the brightness of ​his​ ​​​glory​, and the express image of his ​​​person​. . . “. Genesis 1:27 & 5:1 God created man in his own image. God IS corporeal. He is tangible. He is our father. And you want to turn him into a Greek concept of an incorporeal and unknowable God. Yes, God IS spirit as his spirit resides within his corporeal body. See also, Exodus 24:10. God has feet-that’s not a literary device, it’s a physical description. Now, if you want to learn why I said that John himself said, in the New Testament, that man can see God, then reach out to me. But when you do these videos read this first “that some who are unstable and unlearned twist the scriptures to their own destruction,” 2 Peter 3:16.

@PostApostolicChurch

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for commenting. Are you talking about God the Son or God the Father? John wrote that no one can see God [the Father] (John 1:18). John also said that he saw the Word [the Son of God] (John 1:14). Would you say that John is contradicting himself in the same chapter? I recommend watching the video about the invisibility of God the Father. God bless you! kzread.info/dash/bejne/h5Z9uaaweq6cmrA.html

@franciscafazzo3460

Жыл бұрын

Write this is the mystery that you don't want except, but God who took on a body the Sun and no one likes to use the old fashioned term second person of the Trinity right the one Jehovah or Jehovah the send one you're bragging about being a mind you're bragging about your understanding well God give us understanding the invisible God is only visible in the incarnate Lord Christ

"Father" indicates Male. Being that these guys are mostly Greek, I can't help but to think some of their culture influenced their thought. Sure God is not limited, but there's a reason and theres a truth to the Word when it says His eyes, hands etc. Otherwise He wouldn't have an image that we ourselves bare..

You not speaking the truth about personification

@PostApostolicChurch

11 ай бұрын

Thank you for commenting. It would be helpful if you explained more. God bless you!

Sorry dont agree. God took human form before incarnation.

@JP-rf8rr

5 жыл бұрын

I think all the times God took human form was Jesus.

@EMan-cf8lv

5 жыл бұрын

But the prophecy of Immanuel God with us through the Virgin Birth was only fulfilled by Christ when he had finally taken on human nature. Human form as in Genesis 18 when YHWH came and ate and spoke to Abram was a theophany where the Son the Word of God presented himself but only as that of God, but the human nature was not taken until as Philippians 2 makes know how Christ laid aside his glory as God and took on the form of a servant.

@PostApostolicChurch

5 жыл бұрын

Charles, I agree with you. God did take human form before the incarnation. The question is: was it God the Father or God the Son? For me, the biggest confusion is here is how we reconcile God's appearance in the OT with what John and Paul wrote. John: "No one has seen God." Paul: "No one has seen or can see God." If John and Paul are correct, what does that mean for God's appearances in the OT? I certainly will discuss more about this in future videos. God bless!

@choicegospelnetwork

4 жыл бұрын

MAN MADE DOCTRINE, TRINITY IS NOT APOSTLES DOCTRINE... Read Paul in Acts 20, also 2 Thessalonians 2:from 2. Then . 1 John 2:22

@iwantthetruthandnothingbut6521

4 жыл бұрын

@Tom Bladecki thank you brother! I cannot fathom how people that have so much knowledge about the scriptures can still believe in the Pagan belief of the Trinity. It boggles my mind literally. So thank you and God bless!