Early Amtrak Across Wisconsin

On May 1, 1971, Amtrak became Wisconsin's rail passenger carrier. Passenger service along the Burlington Northern's Mississippi River Route ended as did all service on the Chicago & North Western. Famous train names such as the Milwaukee Road's Hiawathas, C&NW's Streamliners, and Burlington Northern's North Coast Limited disappeared. When Amtrak began, only the Empire Builder and Chicago-to-Milwaukee corridor service were spared, and the Builder was rerouted from the BN onto the Milwaukee's Twin Cities line.
By November, 1971, Amtrak was ready for some new Wisconsin trains. Added were Hiawatha trains to the Twin Cities; North Coast Hiawatha trains to Seattle via Southern Montana; and St. Louis service through Chicago to Milwaukee. Things were looking up for Wisconsin's rail passenger service!
The first vestiges of Amtrak paint slowly appeared in 1972 and in 1973 there were brand new Amtrak engines. However, mismatched "Rainbow" consists were still the rule. GM&O heavyweight parlor cars often appeared as did Denver, Kansas City and California Zephyr Silver dome-observation cars. Soon the E and F locomotives would disappear forever, but in these vintage years they still dominated the trains.
Early Amtrak Across Wisconsin follows Amtrak from the Twin Cities to Southern Wisconsin in the years 1971-73. Locations include such railroading hot spots as St. Croix Junction south of St. Paul, La Crosse, and Duplainville Tower west of Milwaukee. There are scenic views along the Mississippi River and many photo locations in the metro Milwaukee area. The Amtrak trains you will see include:
The Empire Builder
The Hiawatha
The North Coast Hiawatha
The Abraham Lincoln

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  • @McCracken_9
    @McCracken_98 жыл бұрын

    what a hodge-podge of equiptment in the beginning. i love it

  • @mikeingersoll4466

    @mikeingersoll4466

    7 жыл бұрын

    Rukkkis ya but the f40ph bro...best loco ever

  • @BiggusDickusMontePython

    @BiggusDickusMontePython

    3 жыл бұрын

    Was a hodge-podge because of all the railroads that folded to become amtrak.

  • @starguard4122
    @starguard41222 жыл бұрын

    I am so happy tat someone back then took the time to film these trains.

  • @nate9331
    @nate93312 жыл бұрын

    BN is my favorite railroad of the 1970s. GN is my all time favorite

  • @nickforbes-warren6602
    @nickforbes-warren66028 жыл бұрын

    Mismatched rainbow consists, love them! Trains like you might see on some model railroads!!

  • @Petemonster62

    @Petemonster62

    5 жыл бұрын

    Burlington Northern passenger trains were " Rainbow Trains " as well in 1970 & 1971. Burlington Route, Northern Pacific, & two Great Northern color schemes could all be seen in one train!

  • @russellebnet6715
    @russellebnet67155 жыл бұрын

    I was 7 years old. And still remember these in 72 and 1973 was 9 years old. And Amtrak is going

  • @amtrak706
    @amtrak7066 жыл бұрын

    That scene at 3:53 is pretty amazing. I'm sure it isn't original sound, but it does sound pretty close unlike most other clips in this trailer and in other videos like this. It would have been amazing to get the real sound of one of those things blasting by at 90+.

  • @BlackWolfessUSCM
    @BlackWolfessUSCM13 жыл бұрын

    BN's final Empire Builder was a true Rainbow Fleet, one that I think makes it the most interesting. And my favorite to model.

  • @ACLTony
    @ACLTony17 жыл бұрын

    This is great! E units, SDP40fs, BN, UP, Milwuakee....too much good stuff! Thanks so much for sharing:)

  • @xstraightedgefishingx
    @xstraightedgefishingx4 жыл бұрын

    What an era!

  • @andrewcrumb8027
    @andrewcrumb80277 жыл бұрын

    I just found this on DVD at St. Francis' Thrift Store!

  • @carmichaeltrainproductionc9663
    @carmichaeltrainproductionc96634 жыл бұрын

    I love the equipment on your videos so much history!!

  • @charleshightower5442
    @charleshightower54424 жыл бұрын

    3:53, love those horns. My boy is hitting them rails. Got a schedule to keep.

  • @christophercarey3232

    @christophercarey3232

    Ай бұрын

    Leslie S5T on the Santa Fe F7A pulling the Super Chief, now known as the Southwest Chief.

  • @irelandbloke
    @irelandbloke10 жыл бұрын

    Great videos !

  • @gda44256
    @gda4425612 жыл бұрын

    great compilation video

  • @Mason58654
    @Mason586548 жыл бұрын

    I've actually never taken a passenger train in America before, only ever in Britain, China, Japan, and Continental Europe. I've only ever ridden on tourist railroads like the Strasburg, but seeing these films makes me wish I could take an Amtrak train when they used these creative looking consists.

  • @ChatGPt2001
    @ChatGPt20013 ай бұрын

    "Early Amtrak Across Wisconsin" refers to the period following the formation of Amtrak in 1971 when the new national passenger rail service took over intercity train operations from various private railroads. Here are some key points and events related to early Amtrak operations across Wisconsin: 1. **Transition Period**: In the early 1970s, Amtrak took over passenger train services from private railroads like the Milwaukee Road, Chicago and North Western Railway (C&NW), and others. This transition led to changes in train routes, schedules, and equipment. 2. **Empire Builder**: Amtrak's flagship train, the Empire Builder, began serving Wisconsin as part of its route between Chicago, Illinois, and Seattle, Washington. This route passed through cities like Milwaukee, La Crosse, and Tomah in Wisconsin, providing a crucial link for passengers traveling between the Midwest and the Pacific Northwest. 3. **Chicago-Milwaukee Corridor**: Amtrak also introduced corridor services between Chicago and Milwaukee, enhancing connectivity and accessibility for commuters and travelers between these two major cities. 4. **Equipment and Operations**: During the early years of Amtrak, the equipment used for passenger trains was a mix of inherited cars and locomotives from different railroads, leading to the "Rainbow" trains mentioned earlier. These trains showcased a variety of paint schemes and equipment types until Amtrak developed its unified branding and standardized equipment. 5. **Local Rail Scenes**: The introduction of Amtrak brought changes to local rail scenes across Wisconsin, including stations, rail yards, and the types of trains running on the tracks. This period witnessed a blend of classic locomotives like E-9s, F-3s, F-7s, and F-9s alongside newer Amtrak equipment. 6. **Historical Significance**: The early years of Amtrak across Wisconsin marked a significant chapter in the history of passenger rail travel, showcasing both the challenges and innovations in transitioning from private to nationalized rail services. If you have specific questions or would like more details about any aspect of early Amtrak operations across Wisconsin, feel free to ask!

  • @browngreen933
    @browngreen933 Жыл бұрын

    At 0:36 that looks like Trempeleau Mountain on the Mississippi River -- "the Mountain that soaks in water."

  • @beepbeep3000
    @beepbeep300010 жыл бұрын

    I own this DVD and highly recommended for your rail archives. I hope see Amtrak footage of the late 1970s to the early 1990s.

  • @LocalRailfan
    @LocalRailfan15 жыл бұрын

    I have the CB&Q California Zephyr plus the GN Empire Builder. Good video. Its a shame we don't see trains as beautiful as that today!

  • @billdougan4022
    @billdougan40224 жыл бұрын

    I miss those old bridges, like the one at 3:15. 🌉

  • @SentinelKnight26
    @SentinelKnight2615 жыл бұрын

    Whoa!!!!! grate, grate video!!!!!!!!!!

  • @GTRailroadVideos
    @GTRailroadVideos16 жыл бұрын

    Great classic passenger train footage! 5*****

  • @evad1
    @evad117 жыл бұрын

    Bought this DVD and Empire Builders to Milwaukee on Sat. and totally enjoyed them both. Hopefully, the photog has more footage. Yes, thats the Southern 4501 on the Schlitz Circus Train. My mom, 5 year old sister and 7 year old me were standing unknowingly right next to the guy shooting the movie as it passed through our hometown of Waterloo, WI. at Harrison St. My sis lets out a brief scream as the train approaches that can be heard on the DVD.

  • @xCharjx

    @xCharjx

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thats amazing!

  • @d65fitzer
    @d65fitzer16 жыл бұрын

    I used to go up to Oconomowoc to watch the Hiawatha roll through at 90 + mph

  • @dasmikey1964
    @dasmikey196416 жыл бұрын

    I believe the horn is an old cast Nathan P5.

  • @erichanhauser3190
    @erichanhauser31905 жыл бұрын

    Love it.

  • @TommyBNSF
    @TommyBNSF13 жыл бұрын

    3:53, I railfan that place all the time! Mazon, IL!

  • @willberestartingthischanne9984

    @willberestartingthischanne9984

    3 жыл бұрын

    3:53

  • @Crocfan20
    @Crocfan2015 жыл бұрын

    At 3:16 it looks like the circus train's running right on the grass...you can barely see the track LOL

  • @esthercavagnaro9147

    @esthercavagnaro9147

    5 жыл бұрын

    3:16 looks like the circus train

  • @Jaxymann
    @Jaxymann22 күн бұрын

    I just realised the narrator is the game guy who did the narration for the ‘Firepower’ military documentary DVD series. Either that or they sound REALLY similar 😅

  • @murphicus
    @murphicus15 жыл бұрын

    Yeah - try Fargo/Moorhead in the dead of Winter... then the long flat stretch to & though Eastern Montana...

  • @bobmartin3
    @bobmartin39 жыл бұрын

    The Union Pacific Railroad Co. Can Only Restore The Floridian! in 1986.

  • @b5kalad
    @b5kalad14 жыл бұрын

    @micmac99, hey it is even weirder for me because I remember getting on an amtrak train like that sometime in the '70's.

  • @jacksalvin364
    @jacksalvin3646 жыл бұрын

    May 1st, 1971, Amtrak begins in passenger service

  • @RailPreserver2K
    @RailPreserver2K5 жыл бұрын

    I have wondered if the passenger equipment and diesels were saved once they were retired

  • @AMCguy
    @AMCguy5 жыл бұрын

    Can you do one on the GB&W and A&W. Two major wisconsin railways

  • @michaelgmoore5708
    @michaelgmoore57084 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful train, cars look like Northern Pacific or was that the B units we saw.

  • @d65fitzer
    @d65fitzer14 жыл бұрын

    We railfans used to drive to Oconomowoc (an hour drive) to watch the Hi' blast through town in the snow at 90 + mph... what a thrill

  • @josephagnello9335

    @josephagnello9335

    6 жыл бұрын

    We did the same thing in Hartland!!!

  • @josephagnello9335

    @josephagnello9335

    6 жыл бұрын

    I was born in 1950.I got to see the end of three cultureal shifts and the beginning of a new one . . ."baby-boomers.6 surrounded in 1950.s by modernism (men and women returning home to a new life.pockets flushed with spendable cash propelled and dipped us into the Golden Age of the wonderful 1950s and 1960s.Hartland has MY SOUL!!! My brothers and I would fall asleep to the steam engine's drivers clicking and hear that long long low whistle.Every day Mom would take us to the little Hartland train station to see those groumd-blast freight trains pulled by the 4-8-4s and the high speed HIAWATHA'S ! ! ! ! ! ! ! replete with telegragh machine,green visor and spectacles!!! Those freight trains and Hiawatha's were clocked at 90.7 mph after they rounded that Peewaukee bend in the East .That light crept so slowly rounding that bend we thought it would never head straight West ALAS,Here SHE COMES !!!

  • @kyotokid4
    @kyotokid46 жыл бұрын

    ...yeah I remember the "rainbow trains".

  • @taublix315

    @taublix315

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sadly i never got to see them.

  • @bluerazor7049

    @bluerazor7049

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@taublix315 at least there is pictures and footage to show it

  • @taublix315

    @taublix315

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bluerazor7049 yeah

  • @rottenroads1982
    @rottenroads19826 ай бұрын

    Amtrak should bring back their EMD E & F units, as well as the SDP40F (Revised and redone), P30CH (Revised and redone), and other locomotives that they used to have like the Pennsylvania GG1's and GE E60's. In the end, in my opinion, any Locomotive can be useful, and can last a very long time with proper maintenance and care. If locomotives need to be redone to qualify for tier 4 emission standards, then they should be redone.

  • @CTTrains193
    @CTTrains1933 жыл бұрын

    Where can you purchase the films narrirated by this guy? I saw this same film at the Green Bay national Railroad Museum.

  • @historyboy08
    @historyboy0813 жыл бұрын

    It would be nice to see the North Coat Hiawatha return. Its also a sad state how primitive our country is with rail travel. People complain about the pollution, global warming, and the traffic on the highways, but yet, they choose to forget about rail transportation as a necessity to resolve these issues or at least slow them down.

  • @decline2state
    @decline2state16 жыл бұрын

    I think originally Amtrak simply used railroad passenger cars in their original livery; however, you may have seen some cars in the video that were in Amtrak colors. Eventually, most of the equipment looked the same, at least on the outside. As rando points out, however, in 1975 (or thereabouts) Amtrak started buying new equipment (probably Amfleet), painted of course in Amtrak colors, and the Superliners came out in 1979-80.

  • @Crocfan20
    @Crocfan2015 жыл бұрын

    Yeah,that's a bummer

  • @A_Lazy_dude
    @A_Lazy_dude2 жыл бұрын

    this was used in the classic sdp40f of vid made by amtrakguy365 but it got copyrighted until it came back

  • @RailpaxScott
    @RailpaxScott6 жыл бұрын

    I hate how the recording is cut off prior to seeing the entire consist. Is the full DVD like this?

  • @taidokazu
    @taidokazu4 жыл бұрын

    0:23 is La Crosse, WI crossing of BN at the time. Heading for Minnesota (Westbound)

  • @pkranz937

    @pkranz937

    4 жыл бұрын

    Actually, it was BN, C&NW, and Milwaukee.

  • @traindude80
    @traindude8015 жыл бұрын

    You're right, they should credit the trains in Alaska. :D

  • @raspergrey4935
    @raspergrey49352 жыл бұрын

    like train

  • @patmix
    @patmix16 жыл бұрын

    oh yeah

  • @JacobJNelson
    @JacobJNelson16 жыл бұрын

    at the 3:20 mark, watch out for the smoke, haha

  • @akatrain
    @akatrain17 жыл бұрын

    was that steam southern engine 4501

  • @lukethegeneralelectrice60p80
    @lukethegeneralelectrice60p80Ай бұрын

    3:53 is that ATSF Super Chief in Mazon, IL?

  • @bobmartin3
    @bobmartin314 жыл бұрын

    The 1994, And Diesel Powered 1995 Sunset Circus Trains Appear!

  • @ricnic1002
    @ricnic100217 жыл бұрын

    That locomotive was GM&O E7. The train was the Abraham Lincoln.

  • @traindude80
    @traindude8015 жыл бұрын

    It's just criminal that they canceled most of those wonder full trains. Reducing the Hiawatha route to a dinky corridor route? That's an insult to the train. But at least we have the Empire Builder. Let's hope nothing happens to that!

  • @teapop311

    @teapop311

    6 жыл бұрын

    traindude80 Amtrak’s Hiawatha Route is run exactly how the Milwaukee road ran it for their last time. When the Milwaukee built its transcontinental route, they went too far over budget, and I mean by millions upon millions of dollars over budget. This eventually grew out of control and as a last ditch effort to save the Milwaukee Road, they sold off the line to Great Northern, who then made the empire builder service. The Milwaukee Road by then had gotten rid of all Hiawatha services, such as the Olympian Hiawatha, the Northwoods Hiawatha, etc... They then made a new service from Milwaukee to Chicago called the Hiawatha. And then they went bankrupt. Great northern merged with Burlington Route and the two later merged with the Santa Fe, creating BNSF, but had already stopped service on the empire builder when Amtrak was created. Amtrak is innocent, for the most part. They did stop using the F40PH as their main source of road power so that’s a big guilty in my books. At least they still use a couple F40PHs.

  • @bobmartin3
    @bobmartin315 жыл бұрын

    The 1972 And Steam Powered 1973 Milwaukee Circus Tains Appear!

  • @danielday36
    @danielday3616 жыл бұрын

    It looks like around the time they got the new eqipment, it went slower. LOL I was Born in 1981

  • @christophercarey3232
    @christophercarey3232Ай бұрын

    I wonder if the super chief scene's sound at 3:53 is real.

  • @russellgxy2905
    @russellgxy29058 жыл бұрын

    Amtrak should run more rainbow trains. Or at least, with it's own paint scheme. After all, it has five versions now.

  • @maxshelltrack9720

    @maxshelltrack9720

    5 жыл бұрын

    They should go back to the phase 3 scheme and stick with it the one now looks to generic.

  • @matchettkid
    @matchettkid14 жыл бұрын

    @SHADOWNADO where is train day?

  • @Robbi496
    @Robbi49612 жыл бұрын

    These are pretty cool, but I like P42's and Superliners a bit more, even though I am "old?"

  • @NCStL576
    @NCStL57617 жыл бұрын

    Yeah it is. Look closely and you can see the word, "southern" on the tender.

  • @admydragon
    @admydragon14 жыл бұрын

    Whoaa 3:38 - 3:44 creepy light O__O

  • @anhkietduongdo

    @anhkietduongdo

    5 жыл бұрын

    It’s called a Mars light

  • @rmadrid2000
    @rmadrid200016 жыл бұрын

    back when the rails had flavor to them. Now they all look alike.

  • @micmac99
    @micmac9915 жыл бұрын

    Interesting how on early Amtrak "rainbow" consists you have everything from SP to BN to Union Pacific and others. Weird!

  • @paulbrennan5646
    @paulbrennan56466 жыл бұрын

    Can anyone suggest where to find the 1950's train horn sounds. thaks

  • @ErickC

    @ErickC

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pretty much anything that doesn't begin with an "RS" and isn't part of the K5LA/HL/LLH/whatever family was in production in the 1950s. You're going to have to be a bit more specific.

  • @paulbrennan5646

    @paulbrennan5646

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ErickC Thanks!

  • @heathermallory6030
    @heathermallory60303 жыл бұрын

    I did the 800th like, just to let you know

  • @04punky
    @04punky7 жыл бұрын

    I thought the BN railroad was a fright railroad not a passenger train

  • @evanwaters1074

    @evanwaters1074

    7 жыл бұрын

    In it's first year, 1970, the BN took over passenger trains from the SP&S, NP, CB&Q, and GN. 1 year later, Amtrak was made

  • @maxshelltrack9720

    @maxshelltrack9720

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bn was pretty much always a freight rr.

  • @ryanmcminn1981
    @ryanmcminn19819 жыл бұрын

    What r the cool blue cars

  • @Trainmaster909

    @Trainmaster909

    9 жыл бұрын

    Great Northern livery passenger cars

  • @richardgerlach5156

    @richardgerlach5156

    9 жыл бұрын

    Ryan Mcminn "Big Sky Blue". 1967-1971.

  • @jamesdavis5096
    @jamesdavis50965 жыл бұрын

    Was this back when they didn't derail everyday?

  • @railroadvelocipedeproducti2020
    @railroadvelocipedeproducti20205 жыл бұрын

    3:26 that’s the southern #4501!

  • @trainguy91
    @trainguy9115 жыл бұрын

    It is running on the grass or should I say weeds. Some of the tracks are like that were I live most of the tracks are still used but some have been ripped out. Which sucks if only I had Hank Hills lawn mower to get rid of the DAMN weeds.

  • @indyfan22k
    @indyfan22k13 жыл бұрын

    Why does Amtrak get so little funding ?? Is there no passenger rail lobbyists??

  • @leakyjeep5.9

    @leakyjeep5.9

    5 жыл бұрын

    It all goes to the fat cats in the school systems.

  • @timf2279
    @timf2279 Жыл бұрын

    Has Amtrak ever broke even or made a profit?

  • @ThatOneBayAreaRailfanDude
    @ThatOneBayAreaRailfanDude Жыл бұрын

    0:48

  • @lukethegeneralelectrice60p80
    @lukethegeneralelectrice60p803 жыл бұрын

    Ok PC Or Penn Central has e8

  • @christopherstehn
    @christopherstehn Жыл бұрын

    just like druing the merger american west airlines and us airways 2004 to 2007

  • @Greatdome99
    @Greatdome994 жыл бұрын

    "Rail Passenger Carrier"--WTF? And what is a "first vestige?"

  • @tnrpvideo1414
    @tnrpvideo14147 жыл бұрын

    2:55 whats the horn?

  • @TrainTrackTrav

    @TrainTrackTrav

    7 жыл бұрын

    Leslie S3L with dead 44 bell. I.E. a Leslie S2A.

  • @ErickC

    @ErickC

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TrainTrackTrav : I should note that the actual horn on the unit was probably a PM-990. BN didn't use the S3L/PM-920.

  • @christophercarey3232

    @christophercarey3232

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@ErickCBN did have a small handful of S3Ls/PM920s on some of their units. Other units had S5Ts.

  • @TEMPLE7D
    @TEMPLE7D15 жыл бұрын

    1 engine per car lol

  • @Trainmaster909
    @Trainmaster9099 жыл бұрын

    seriously who cares about soo line these days?

  • @ErickC

    @ErickC

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bob Rivard does, I imagine...

  • @UPguy1996
    @UPguy199610 ай бұрын

    My mind was just shocked from what Amtrak used to be like when they were first founded and started revenue service. Also, I got quite emotional on these old clips as well. 🥹🥹.

  • @hardyhector8308
    @hardyhector83084 жыл бұрын

    like train