Leading by example

The Police are allowed to break the Law, ask a crooked Judge.

Unbelievable how inconsistent the punishments are. Despite numerous reports like this, not a single action

@makecyclingsafeagain6575

3 жыл бұрын

You're not wrong, inconsistency is a big issue.

@thomasreed49

Жыл бұрын

Don’t know what you’re on about there was no danger the police didn’t have to overtake the cyclist again which is another hazard can’t see anything wrong.

@QiuEnnan

3 ай бұрын

@@thomasreed49 Overtaking a cycle isn't hazardous unless you do it wrong...

@thomasreed49

3 ай бұрын

@@QiuEnnan But they were overtaken encounter traffic lights they take the front again then you have to overtake them again. We have them do this when there is a cycle path but for whatever mad reason they choose not to use it.

Traffic law, rule 178. All motorists including motorcycles MUST stop at the 1st white line if the the lights are amber or red. Avoid blocking the advanced line at other times, not traffic law but not nice. This driver failed to stop at the 1st white line and i can see no reasonable excuse for it. Also he did not make his intentions to turn left by signaling untill after he moved off. If i was the cyclist and the car was signaling left while waiting at the lights and had left the box clear i would if been inclined to hold back anyway and allow it to turn. Very poor driving but well done to the cyclist in making it a non event and simply presenting the footage later.

@Tailspin80

3 ай бұрын

It’s left turn only. Straight ahead is a bus lane. Indicators not necessary.

Wow ! What a major crime. Get over it 🤦

He should have been indicating while waiting for the lights to change,NOT,as the lights changed.

So...yr within yr rights to pop round to the drivers door and ask what they doing in the bike box....dont be afraid of the police if they do wrong they should be told too...

@robertovers1863

Жыл бұрын

yes he could have done that and the nice officers would have helped him to reach that itch up his back with his elbow

This seems like a good job all round. There's no need to go to arguments over it. They failed to drive properly, you reported it as facility is provided for you to, and they got their course-conditional and hopefully subsequently pay more attention to their driving. Ideally, it would have been other police that dobbed them in, but volunteers doing their work for them isn't a bad fallback? One day 'black boxes' in our own cars will be phoning us in for inadequate driving. Who are we going to blame then?

I've reported similar to ScotPlod's professional standards, with zero fucks given.

I would have challenged them straight away just for bike box .... they are not an example, they clearly are well above the law. Do as we say not as we do...

@wessexdruid7598

3 ай бұрын

And then they'd just try to retaliate. Much better to phone the local nick and complain to their inspector.

When the police car stopped at the lights he should have stopped behind the cycle box, good spotting.

It should also be noted that if the light changing mean you can't stop for the first soli white line you must stop before the SECOND solid with line. Or officer had positioned his vehicle to observe a potential criminal act and therefore carrying out his lawful duties..so he or she would be excempt..and no keyboard warriors..they have to have their prity lights on to do this.

@stevethomas2559

Жыл бұрын

The first line , not the box, should be regarded as the stop line. You should approach a traffic lights at a speed that enables you to stop before the line if the lights turn red. Would it be ok to be half a cars length over a normal (non box) stop line because you were traveling too fast?

@ryanmitcham5522

5 ай бұрын

@@stevethomas2559 >You should approach a traffic lights at a speed that enables you to stop before the line if the lights turn red. I know i'm late to this but you need to think this through. The first line is the stop line. But the second one is as well. Take a junction without an ASL. When the light changes to amber, if you are far enough back to be able to stop safely before the line you must stop, if you cannot safely stop before the line, you may continue through on amber. Now in situation of a junction with an ASL, that creates an area where depending on the timing of the lights it's entirely possible that the light changes to amber at that awkward moment where it's not possible to stop before the first stop line, but you are able to stop before the second stop line. This doesn't have to be related to going too fast, if anything it happens far more in the reverse situation where you are travelling slowly, so when the light changes as you are already crossing the first line, you can easily stop before the second. The law in this situation requires you to stop before the second stop line. To continue would be an offence.

@ryanmitcham5522

5 ай бұрын

>they have to have their prity lights on to do this. I maybe misunderstanding your comment, but for clarify, a police officer does NOT need to be operating emergency equipment to use their exemptions. This is because there are situations where they want to use their exemptions without tipping their hand, or or example in an unmarked vehicle where they don't yet want to reveal their presence. There may be individual force policy regarding this, but legally no emergency equipment needs to be activated for their exemptions to apply.

To be honest these box markings are being worn away and not being repainted, i think they are not going to bother with them next time. The money they have wasted on cycle lanes/paths that are empty for 99 percent of the time.

I wouldve definitely have parked in front of them, l live near a Police station and regularly catch them cutting a corner where i live, i sit on my bike and wait for them to move, they know they're in the wrong, spot my camera and then go round me, so many of them do it

I am utterly sick of cars stopping in the cycle box. It forces cyclists out in front of them or squashed up between cars… there shpuld be cameras and ANPR…fine them as they have technically jumped the red light.

The standard of police driving is pretty poor tbf he shouldn't have blocked that box, but then ive had cop cars nearly run up my backend a couple of times. They're not good

Some lovely beautiful places in Essex.. where was this?

@makecyclingsafeagain6575

2 жыл бұрын

Colchester.

@jaycearoo

2 жыл бұрын

@@makecyclingsafeagain6575 I didn't recognize it at all, Essex is ace, I'm from Essex myself but live up in the pennines Yorkshire now...I've got family there aswell... Wishing you all a safe journey anyhow...

@makecyclingsafeagain6575

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaycearoo lovely part of the world where you are. Appreciate the kind wishes!

Isn't that a£100 fine for Joe bloggs

Naughty naughty naughty

If the police do this, then everyone can. if the police do it they will never prosecute anyone else who does.

More sovereign cops

Probably just forgot easily done with so much crime these days lol.

He should have stopped behind the first white line, he signalled right very late, he should of let the cyclist move off first.

Grow a spine and challenge them. Or dont complain

@makecyclingsafeagain6575

2 жыл бұрын

Challenged through their own reporting channels, no need to bother anyone. If you want to engage directly, you go for it.

Nothing happened.

I see normal car van lorry driver, etc, getting done for this sort of thing on KZread . Not seen a cop get done. Surprisingly 😅 🎉

But didn’t have the balls to tell him?

@makecyclingsafeagain6575

Жыл бұрын

Because I have politely challenged this behaviour before and been met with foul-mouthed abuse and physical threats. Now, I most often let the police themselves handle it.

They can do what they want

Definitely challenge these maggots who think they are above everyone else.

Whats all the fuss about, there was plenty of room to cycle up the inside and jump the red light.

@user-kx7tl5qi2u

Жыл бұрын

Just someone who loves to cause issues for themselves. I guarantee this cyclist is the type to drive into danger and then complain.

They didn’t see it - don’t be unreasonable 🤣

@kevincuthbert3058

Жыл бұрын

Try using that excuse on a yellow box junction.

Is that it ???

@makecyclingsafeagain6575

3 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@iallso1

2 жыл бұрын

Personally I didn't see anything wrong with what occurred here.

@grahvis

2 жыл бұрын

@@iallso1 . What you mean like not stopping at the stop line.

@iallso1

2 жыл бұрын

@@grahvis the lights are red, the police car stops, the cyclist has taken a position behind the car, the lights change, the car moves off, makes its left turn, the cyclist follows, no big deal.

@yorkshirebikerbitsnbobs

2 жыл бұрын

IKR 👍

He's technically gone through a red light.

I think the bike boxes are dangerous for cyclists anyway as it can put them in a very prone position if a grumpy car driver behind them decides they are trying to be obstructive. Most cyclists I’ve ever seen either drive straight through the red lights or up onto the pavement and down again on the other side anyway! 😂🤣

I would of cycled right in front of them

@makecyclingsafeagain6575

2 жыл бұрын

You're a braver man than I.

One rule for us and one rule for them !!!!!!!!,

I wish this was only the simple sort of pointless, irrelevant shit I had to worry about in life. Jees

@makecyclingsafeagain6575

2 жыл бұрын

Pointless and irrelevant enough for you to watch and then take the time write a comment about. Well done.

@yorkshirebikerbitsnbobs

2 жыл бұрын

@James Foo 👍

The law is not applicable to the police or so they believe!

Hope he was done for driving in a bus lane too.

@fetchstixRHD

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottglossop: Was going to comment this - he'd almost certainly fit under the category of a vehicle allowed to use a bus lane.

@michaelfrancis7072

Жыл бұрын

He was not in a Bus Lane, the Bus Lane starts over the junction at the bottom of the hill

@anochmor

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelfrancis7072 -The bus lane is clearly from the mini roundabout to the traffic lights and has the solid wide white line between it and other lanes along its full length.

Report it

@makecyclingsafeagain6575

2 жыл бұрын

Done, driver was sent on an awareness course.

@Ben-db5re

2 жыл бұрын

@@makecyclingsafeagain6575 good, nice to know the police own up too

@makecyclingsafeagain6575

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ben-db5re I was a bit surprised!

You will not make cycling safe until all cyclist read and follow the highway code

@makecyclingsafeagain6575

2 жыл бұрын

Change that to drivers.

@PP-cm4re

Жыл бұрын

It’s idiot car drivers that make cycling unsafe. I should be able to ride my bike to work without being flattened by some self entitled pr!ck who thinks I should move out the way just because he/she is driving a car and I’m not. Swear once people get a car they think they own the road.

Poor observation. Police vehicle should have had indicators on to allow vehicles behind to take up better position ready for lights to change. Cyclist should not move to side of road at junction - should have moved back to place himself directly behind the vehicle in front in the middle of the lane after realising that cyclists' box was obstructed.

@michaelfrancis7072

Жыл бұрын

The only way the police car could go was left, ahead was a bus lane which he could only use in an emergency and showing Blue lights.

Everyone makes mistakes. No harm done.

The white lines are so faded on the road For once the police weren’t at fault

@makecyclingsafeagain6575

2 жыл бұрын

Yet, they sent their own driver on a driver improvement course.....

@fetchstixRHD

2 жыл бұрын

Mind you, faded stop lines really get on my nerves, but here they're pretty visible imo. There are plenty which look like they've been erased with only the anti-slip outlines remaining (or a new stop line will be painted on without the old one being removed) yet here I would think that they're very legible?

@mikee9765

Жыл бұрын

@@makecyclingsafeagain6575 They might have TOLD you that!

That's rich , a cyclist whinging about a car doing something wrong , no doubt cyclist is a 100% law abiding road user 😭😭😭

@makecyclingsafeagain6575

2 жыл бұрын

100% law abiding whether I'm driving, on the bus, on the train, cycling, running or walking. Hope you are likewise 👍

@grahamreeve5209

Жыл бұрын

I take road craft seriously on my bike, motorcycle or car. In my car I often but not always see bad driving. I sometimes see bad cycling, and I'm often in Cambridge. On my bike, omg driving standards plummet around me.

@bestbehave

3 ай бұрын

No doubt. But you’d expect the rozzers to be for sure

@davemartin6319

3 ай бұрын

When 93% of car drivers exceed 20mph speed limits. The highest percentage of transgression of any law in this country!!

@bestbehave

3 ай бұрын

@@davemartin6319 and an extraordinarily important and equally extraordinarily trivialised safety critical law too