E89 BMW Z4 sDrive23i vs sDrive35i
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Today I compare my N52B25 2.5L N/A I6 BMW Z4 to a N54B30 3.0L TT I6 BMW Z4. Same car, different engine. Let's see how they compare!
This sDrive35i was provided to my by Cooper Auto Company:
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:24 Exterior
1:02 Engines
1:50 Interior
2:57 sDrive35i Driving Experience
5:27 sDrive23i Driving Experience
Thanks for Watching!
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Got the 2011 35is. With new oilthermostate, Wagner intercooler, walnutblast (after 220...km) and tuning, now at 410BHP and 619nm. Had 348bhp and 619nm after the mentioned 220.000km, no too bad. Natural aspirated is not as powerful but for sure as much, and maybe even more, engaging. Thanks for your joyful review!
@KiwiCarLife
5 ай бұрын
Impressive man!
Great video with bags of enthusiasm and energy!!
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Thanks man
Nice review! Looks like you are genuinely having a bit of fun and makes me want one too! Thanks
@KiwiCarLife
11 ай бұрын
Thanks yep they’re really fun cars
I have a 2010 Z4 35I and absolutely love it. Mine is stock and it is a car that is way before it's time. I love the hard top convertible. I love the M sport grill on the one you drove.
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah mate the 35i is glorious
@love200sx
Жыл бұрын
Take MHD ans it's another car 🥰
@vintagetrk
Жыл бұрын
@@love200sx whats MHD sorry for my BMW Newbie ignorance.
@love200sx
Жыл бұрын
@@vintagetrk it s APK for tune your car i have now 80HP more
@vintagetrk
Жыл бұрын
@@love200sx Plenty happy with my cars stock HP I'm more into making it reliable. I live where the roads are twisty. 302 hp is plent of power. I am putting on analuminum charge pipe and performing regular maintenance but my ride only has 57k on the clock. So I'm in good shape.
Love my 35i they are awesome. Great review.
@KiwiCarLife
5 ай бұрын
Mmmm yeah I’d really like one
Drove the 20i and the 23i couldn't imagine an auto though I mean when you can get it with a manual. I prefer the character of Naturally aspirated 2.5l over the 2.0l turbo as well but I never was a crazy turbo fan.
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’d agree a manual is a better option. Hard to come by here
I like the silver rims much better though, dont get the black rim aesthetic at all..
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Fair enough, they are Z4M wheels which helps. I bought the car with the black wheels already
@The_Noticer.
Жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife yeah but maybe putting back into the OEM color will make it look better. Also if you decide to sell it on, better re-sale value with the OEM color probs.
@Aquve
Жыл бұрын
strongly agree, black rims are trash
@The_Noticer.
Жыл бұрын
@@Aquve loved the skit M539 restorations did on this in his second-last video :D
@medowatcher
9 ай бұрын
I actually love the black wheels esp if you paint the top with oem quality paint in black. Or tint the windows black.
the best combo is the n55 with the zf auto, bulletproof as hell
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Agree, but the n54 sounds better
I'm in a 240i currently as I love it, but I love it abit too much. I get too tempted to drive like an asshole and thinking of a downgrade. After watching this video I think the z4 23i is the car for me. Thanks for the information!
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
All good! Haha yeah the 23i was good. Can't get into too much trouble but was still fun
In my opinion, I'd never by the n54, they just have unlimited issues (I'm sure there are a handful of unicorns out there). But that n52 is so damn bullet proof, and quite nice for an NA engine
@LifeOfTuners
Жыл бұрын
I personally don't like how turbo BMWs sound, they sound like a generic inline 6 sound, unlike another it turbos which sound godly, and that n52 with an intake, mhm that sounds nice
@17t135i
Жыл бұрын
The appeal with the N54 is how much power they can make for little money, with hybrid turbos and some bolt ons they can make an easy 600hp, of course there are trade offs.
@sonof69star
Жыл бұрын
NA N52 is one of the best engines ever produced in the automotive history. One of the best sounding engines of all time. The turbo charged N54 and N55, just too many horror stories out there. The BMW 335 community would know if they are not in denial. Just too many blown engines. All new BMWs today screwed not only in design language but also in the sound department.
@LifeOfTuners
Жыл бұрын
@@17t135i yeah for sure, they can definitely be built up to make some big power cheap as
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Yeah definitely
N54 Power, if only they were not an endless money pit, but I do have a lot of fun with mine.
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Ageee
@medowatcher
9 ай бұрын
How much are you paying for gas? Or is there maintenance issues??
@17t135i
9 ай бұрын
@medowatcher well, n54 engine has some known issues, one being injectors, it took then 12 revisions to get them right, most cars out there don't have these index 12 injectors and they pretty much all go bad, currently $4700 nzd replace all 6 injectors.
Almost destroyed my feelings to my 23i. But as you said its cheaper and still fun... a lot of fun. Also twisty roads of Europe 200 hp is enough to get me into truble 😉
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Yeah nah it's still awesome
@martyboyle9066
Жыл бұрын
With a stage 1 tune and or an exhaust upgrade I'd imagine the 2.5 would be right up there. Ditch the autos on both manual for life.
@samsoum28
Жыл бұрын
I definitely go with the 23i, its more fun to drive and controllable
@ProjectH4x
Жыл бұрын
I don't know how it works on other European countries... But at the one I live in, a 3000cc pays more yearly taxes than a house, and you can't (shouldn't) even take a dump in the car! Better go with the 23 😅
@simontist
Жыл бұрын
@@martyboyle9066 if you're tuning, the N54 is an absolute beast
Hello, are the cars both before LCI? or only on the black z4 are white bulbs used instead of yellow in the lights? thanks for the reply
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Yep both pre lci
Buy 30i best of both worlds. With different exhaust plus a remap you will have 280 bhp , plenty enough for that car
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Yeah very true. Unfortunately we don't get the 30i here
The 35i M sport is using 7 speed DCT gearbox, 30i is 6 speed ZF
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Yes
Curious if the kiwi cars are different than the American ones... I had a 2011 z4 and the N52 was a 3.0L not a 2.5L, is it just produced differently for different countries?
@KiwiCarLife
4 ай бұрын
Yep in Japan they only got 2.0t, 2.5 and 3.0tt. US got the detuned 3.0L n/a
I'm buying a Z4 sDrive23i this week. After watching this video, I really want the 35i though.
@KiwiCarLife
11 ай бұрын
Hmm yeah it's a tradeoff between price and reliability
@luisgriffiths2714
11 ай бұрын
I have had the 2.0s as I remember, good fun, but I now have the 35is. I only had a hydraulic issue with the roof on the 2.0, a pipe filled. BMW repaired it at a reduced price. No other problems other than that, so don’t be put off by some of the comments. The N54 engine is as bullet proof as anything out there. Cost of service through BMM on the N54 is only a little more than the 2.0. I took the 35is to Le Mans in July, 10 hours each way, shared driving, very comfortable and great fun to drive with enough space for weekend luggage. In short get the N54 35is. Enjoy
is it true that it's hard to maintain a bmw in new zealand? like when you get broken parts it will take ages to fix? i really want bmw but i might choose toyota as the safest option.
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
There are a few horror stories, but if you get an N/A I6, you're unlikely to have many issues. I4's, turbo 6's and V8's are very hit or miss. Some are surprisingly reliable, others are nightmares. Best to stick to the N/A 6 for safety: anything ending in 23i, 25i, 28i or 30i. They're all great engines
Yip. Mine is a white/red 28i(48 000km) My brother have a silver/black 35is. Best cars ever! 👍💌🇿🇦
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Nice!
i love metallic roof on them ! New Z4 is too wide
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's good aye
Hey man! I am considering to buy a 23i or 35i both for actually similar price and kilometer, ( around 50.000) I am thinking of which of these both are more reliable so I don’t have the chance to need to invest into it for issues in future, because I might keep the car for a long time, what is your thinking about? Oh and the 23i is manual and the 35i automatic, I guess manual might be more gentle and suistanable for the car/ engine/ transmission. Would be cool to get some advice, thank you!
@KiwiCarLife
2 ай бұрын
Manual 23i will definitely be more reliable
@saaaleeeh
2 ай бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife thanks for the quick response!!:))
So how do I make my 28i turn into a 35i? ( I’m a beginner car person ) I should’ve bought the 35i, I was scared it would be more maintenance since I am using it as a daily
@KiwiCarLife
4 ай бұрын
You can’t short of engine swapping. The 28i has an N52 N/A 3.0L I6 with 6 speed auto. The 35i has an N54 twin turbo 3.0L I6 with 7 speed DCT. They’re very different
@kashmimi
4 ай бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife I see! Okay thank you, I will just make her look cute 😄
You should have tried the 23i before the 35i to make a fair comparison. I mean sure after the 35i test-drive you won't enjoy the 23i as its obviously a downgrade.
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
I own the 23i so trust me I've driven it plenty of times before this video
At that start of the video, I didn’t recall you had an atrocious rear spoiler……nek minit, oh railings 🤭😂
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
What's not to like? It's only tiny
@shixtr
Жыл бұрын
😜
Gotta get myself one. Regardless which😍
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Would definitely recommend!
@bvc100
Жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife found quite a good 23. Currently in process of buying it. Wish me luck!
@bvc100
Жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife secured the car. And boy, it is worth it.😍
I just bought my second 35is, first one got wreaked in a 14 car pile up. I bought an M6 (v10) in the meantime, but had to get another 35is because when you power mod that N54...oh man. Now the M6 never leaves the garage.
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Awesome man! Yeah the N54 is such an epic engine
You bought less problems that for sure, and Turbo charged car cant have better sound then NA engine, no chance!
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Ohh it definitely does haha
@padourek
Жыл бұрын
I changed my 30i to 35i (not S) this year and the sound is absolutely different. 35i in low revs sounds like American muscle, in hi revs turns into screaming Ferrari. The power in low revs is much better. No need to downshift when overtaking. And in highs and 200 kmh when press the pedal, you still feel the thrust.
personaly would have gone with the n52b30
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Yeah same, that's like the perfect engine but unfortunately they aren't sold here
its sad seeing these stock, ill pay the e89 some justice and build a street wideboy single turbo beaut in the next year or so
@KiwiCarLife
6 ай бұрын
Goodness I’d rather have a stock one thanks
@tgshark1
6 ай бұрын
pros and cons to you purists, you are the people i buy the cars from so keep em clean for me, check out the Z4 GT3 Judd v8s if you havent already@@KiwiCarLife
N54B 3.0 can be easily tuned for over 500 hp. Thats why it has all rights to exist.
@KiwiCarLife
11 күн бұрын
Yeah they’ve got a lot of potential
I will keep my 2008 Z4 M Roaster with the 6 speed MT.
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Good choice. My favorite bmw
Word of the day "infamatessisbly" - love it 😆
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Hahah absolutely no idea where I got that from - probably top gear
How come you didnt pay much for your z4 if i may ask
@KiwiCarLife
4 ай бұрын
Because it was really rough when I bought it and I fixed it up. It looks heaps better in the video
@Krezo200
4 ай бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife okay 🤙 Why did you sell it?
miss my e89 30i
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Mmmm that’s the one I wanted
I read somewhere that the higher the BMW engine number, the more problems :D
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Lol, not the case with the b58. But s63, S65 and s85 absolutely
@tolrem
Жыл бұрын
I recommend watching "The Car Ninja" on YT.Very educational as the guy is a BMW specialist.Apparently their V8s are extra bad news. As the saying goes "If you can't afford a new BMW,then you definitely can't afford a used one."
@markmcgrath9098
Жыл бұрын
If the engine code starts with N then that means NO GO! DON’T GO THERE! All the M and S code were pretty good. Yes the S65/85 engines have design faults that cause them to chew up rod bearings but they are still effing epic engines.
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
@@markmcgrath9098 disagree the n52 is one of bmw's best and most reliable powerplants
@markmcgrath9098
Жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife as a hard n fast rule, everything after the M motors and their S variants was plasticrap. Even the later M54, which are bloody top motors, had too much plastic. Plasticcrap infected the M62 V8 as well with plastic timing chain guides. When they work, the N turbo motors are beastly powerful, if slightly dull (imho) sounding. Gotta love that. Truth is like them all, just disappointed that they seemed to sacrifice decent build and reliability for economic returns.
I drove the E89 35is with my friend on his S2K. We raced a fun drag race. The 35is raped the S2K. I mean, it completely destroyed the S2K. 35is has about 30hp more than then 35i. It is a serious BMW monster roadster. Can be tuned to more than 400hp easily.
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the S2 wouldn’t have stood a chance against a Z4 35i
And both no better that the face lift 2.0 turbo
@KiwiCarLife
3 ай бұрын
I would strongly disagree haha
Nothing beats Barra turbo
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Lumpen engine it is
@StealthyyyHD
Жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife get a F6 typhoon, 330 kw I think standard
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
@@StealthyyyHD wow is that all
@StealthyyyHD
Жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife stock block can handle 2000 HP if that isn't enough 🤣
@StealthyyyHD
Жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife iron block over engineered bigger turbo, bigger fuel system easy 1000 HP without opening motor up
My 1 M costs me a bit but I don’t care.
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's it aye. Driving experience is worth it
When are you lining these two hair dresser cars up with the CL9? 😂😂😂
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Oh gosh
N54 rules!!
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Yuuuurs
Manual 23i is way better
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
Slow
First?
@NowIknowCh
Жыл бұрын
Give this man a cookie
@KiwiCarLife
Жыл бұрын
I shall