E5 vs E10 Fuel | What is the deal? | North Coast Workshop
Today I cover the topic of this new E10 fuel that is now available in the UK. It has replaced the standard E5 Unleaded fuel which we previously had. So E5 vs E10, which is the better one? What is the difference?
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So with E10 now in circulation in the UK, I wonder how it would have affected the extremely powerful BMW M4 I drove. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z6aFj9Cgn86alc4.html to check out the video! Cheers!
Driving a Toyota Corolla Hybrid, the first time I drove I filled up with E5 because there was no other choice, then I fully filled it up with E10 just because its cheaper and I could drive over 700km. The second time I filled it with E10 I realized the loss of power when accelerating, it was nothing like the E5 I drove the first time especially when accelerating on hills. Even tho some people say the difference in power is bearly noticable, you really feel it when you put your whole pedal down, so I'm going to change to E5 again because it doesn't feel exciting anymore when driving up hills or overtake somebody
@NorthCoastWorkshop
Жыл бұрын
Cheers for the info on this. Good to have a lot of different experiences left here in the comments, so everyone can see how everyone finds it. I'm still on the premium E5 stuff at the moment. Ran the E10 briefly but added octane booster to it as I have a remap on the car. Cheers for commenting 👍🏻
@BillyBanter100
2 ай бұрын
Same experience in my 2015 Fiesta Eco Boost. I only use E5 fuel. I have been told by 2 mechanics that E10 causes premature engine wear in Eco Boost engines.
@xLoterx
Ай бұрын
I get noticebly more power and range with E5 vs E10, Lexus CT200h 2012
Tested Aygo , Avensis , both sluggish , loss of power , increased consumption , also on smaller engines would give the sensation of 3 cylinder engine that rattle even if you would have 4 cylinder on your car.
@NorthCoastWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear you're having similar issues as other drivers. The increased consumption will add up over the year too. Thank you for leaving a comment and watching the video 👍🏻
The start of your videos 🤣🔥 constant different camera angles. Amazing. Great video
@NorthCoastWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Ur too kind mate, thank you, I aim to peeeeease! 😁
How can it be greener if you need to use more of it?
@NorthCoastWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah my thoughts too at 1st, and still kind of unsure. But the government expect the cut in emissions produced by E10, along with the Co2 absorbed by the plants grown to produce ethanol, should outweigh the increase in fuel now needed as this stuff is less economical. It's mathematics way too advanced for me to try and figure out if they're right 😂🙈 I suppose only time will tell, along with environmental reports. Thank you for watching and commenting 👍🏻
@Godlyhank
2 жыл бұрын
@@NorthCoastWorkshop its true...ish for today. because most big engines dont get affected as much, but smaller turbo engines lose 10%+ economy, and as people switch to small engine hybrids and small petrols to drop size, in 5-10 years e10 will work out net worse due to this. The problem with the government they want to do something they do it and take a quote to back it from an "expert". I personally think they just want to kill off old guzzlers.
Ive got g20 320i and the mpg difference is between 4-5. Got 390 miles from full tank (59L) of e10 with an average 30mpg. It was mostly city driving with no more than 180 miles on Motorway. With e5, I managed to get 400 miles ( 20 miles of motorway driving). That’s like an average of 34 mpg. I have run this test twice and the results were similar. The price difference between e5 and e10 is 11pence (£6.59 for full tank). So E5 still works out cheaper. Btw all tests were run on Eco mode with heater on.
@NorthCoastWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
That's a really substantial difference, especially over a full tank. Thank you for watching and thank you for sharing your findings here in the comments, as it's really helpful info for other viewers 👍🏻
Thanks so much for this video! Really informative and interesting to watch also 👍🏼
@NorthCoastWorkshop
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, and appreciate the kind words, cheers 😊👍🏻
Hi man! I'm from Italy and I have got an Cupra R with stage 2+ and 350 hp. A few days ago I add 10% of pure ethanol into fuel tank with 100 Ron, because in my country the fuel is worsening. The power increase was been incredible, much more torque until 7200 rpm and also the engine sound has changed! Now the Polar Fis shows me 0 correction on the knock sensor, so I recommend It! Sorry for my english and congrats for your channel!
@NorthCoastWorkshop
Жыл бұрын
That sounds like a great improvement from a little bit more ethanol 👌🏻 Very strong numbers from your car anyway at 350bhp 💪🏼 And yes the fuel here in the UK isn't great just now and getting so expensive 🙈 Thank you for commenting, and sharing your experience 🙏🏼
My Volvo c70 (2004)and newer v40 2 ltr are rated for e10 . but have loss of power, on hills especially, i wont use it, i drive straight off forecourts that dont stock it.
Suzuki Baleno 1.0 turbo. 55 mpg around town carefully driving with e5 V power, can fight it to get over 60. With E10 however im lucky to even hit 53 mpg when im fighting it, usually 47-48. small turbo engines seem to suffer the most...ironic as these are not the engine you want to target for emission improvments.. and small engines make up most of the UKs petrol cars. coincidence?
@NorthCoastWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe not! There is the rumoured conspiracy that the government want the combustion engine off the road, and the battery motors on the road for the near future! Regardless of that, the increased cost of everyone's annual fuel bill, is shocking! Its all been sneaked in under the radar, without us, the consumer, being informed properly, of what to expect. Thank you for giving your own personal results, sad to hear, but very helpful 👍🏼
In my 2015 Fiesta 1.0 Eco Boost E10 fuel causes a very noticeable loss of power and around 20% higher fuel consumption. I also get much more vibration or engine wobble using E10 fuel. I have been informed by 2 separate garages that it also causes premature engine wear. Ford recommend E5 for my vehicle.
@NorthCoastWorkshop
2 ай бұрын
That's a hassle for you, but good to know about. Does this mean you have to purposely hunt out premium fuel to get the E5 mixture? Must add up and cost you a fair bit extra each month too.
@BillyBanter100
2 ай бұрын
@@NorthCoastWorkshop I have no problem finding E5 fuel here in Sheffield where I live. I'm retired now and only drive around 4000 miles a year so fuel cost isn't too bad. My Fiesta averages 40mpg around town and 60mpg on the motorway. Also it's car tax exempt.
@NorthCoastWorkshop
2 ай бұрын
Ah that's good to hear. Just a shame E10 isn't without it's issues or compromises. Appreciate you getting in touch Alan, cheers 👍🏻
Hi man! l'm from france. sorry if i disturb you now. i just saw this video just now. i need you some help or advice about my car. my car is Nissan Qashqai j11 2019 model and this is 1.3 petrol engine 4 cylender. i need your advice for what is the good fuel i used...because the cover of my tank the writen is Super 95 Octaine E10 Sans Plomb E5 so i want to know wedge one is good for my engine. sorry for my english. and just reply me if you have time thanks.
@NorthCoastWorkshop
Жыл бұрын
Hi, no need to say sorry at all, happy to try and help. The answer is, your car will run perfectly on both E10 and E5. If you want better fuel economy and a potentially 'cleaner' fuel, I would go for E10, though I imagine it's a bit more expensive in France as it is here in the UK. If you want to save money, )but potentially have slightly worse mpg/economy) then E5 will be fine and do no harm to your Nissan. Hope that helps 😊👍🏻
So I think I'll carry on using the less corrosive E5, so it'll be less damaging to £ thousands worth of equipment. So I'm having to search for petrol stations who sell E5. So I've already damaged my strimmer and lawnmower through not paying attention to the type of fuel I'm using. So I'm not very happy with cheap and nasty e10. So
@NorthCoastWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's not been showing many positives to the use of it at the moment! And with prices at their highest level ever, it's just generally expensive to fill up regardless, so why not, like you said, fill up with better quality fuel. Appreciate you watching and commenting William 👍🏻
Not good mpg in my new hybrid jazz with E10 went below 50mpg does around 60mpg with E5 but costs nearly 20 pence a litre more than deisel I'm tempted to go back to deisel as I do a lot of miles would it be worth it
@NorthCoastWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they might force a lot of drivers to switch to diesel if it's having such a major affect on economy. Thank you for watching and commenting your results 👍🏻
@Godlyhank
2 жыл бұрын
% Gains. 10+mpg more is 20%+ more in economy. for less than 20% more cost. better for engine and more worth it to go premium. Its ridiculous
Never under any circumstances should you mix 2 stroke with E10. I tried it for two years, and the engine keeps bogging out, when you use the full throttle!
@NorthCoastWorkshop
7 күн бұрын
Good to know Peter, cheers 👍🏻 Is this for a strimmer or similar powered machinery?
@petermostyneccleston2884
7 күн бұрын
@@NorthCoastWorkshop NEVER use regular petrol for making a 2 stroke mix. I have damaged 4 machines in the 2 years, that I have been using mixture made with regular petrol.
Very informative 🤓👍🏻
@NorthCoastWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
😁thank you, glad u enjoyed!
My corsa vxr runs shit on the e10 bollocks, try not to use it but seems more people use e5 and its harder to get at the minute
@NorthCoastWorkshop
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm still sticking to the higher octane E5 fuel just now. From feedback I'm getting, higher tuned engines (factory/aftermarket tunes) are more fussy about the fuel going through them. Appreciate the feedback 👍🏻 (Also I'm a big fan of the VXR Corsa's too 💥👌🏻)
@YourDailyDriver
Жыл бұрын
@@NorthCoastWorkshop cheers mate not alot of people appreciate the vxrs 🔥👍
@NorthCoastWorkshop
Жыл бұрын
They sound awesome and stick to what the ideal recipe for a hot hatch should be 👍🏻 None of this muted, incognito styling of modern hot hatches these days 🙈
@YourDailyDriver
Жыл бұрын
@@NorthCoastWorkshop I totally agree, all these hothatch cars are a dying breed
E10 in my Skoda Octavia 1.0 tsi felt like it was on 3 cylinders then I remembered it only had 3 cylinders 🤣 Royal Enfield Himalayan motorbike doesn’t seem to care I just brimmed the tank and put redex in the tank over winter lay up ❄️👍
@NorthCoastWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
I was just gonna question if those engines maybe had 3 cylinders 😂😂🙈 glad to hear its not having severe effects on ur car or bike. Nice bike too 👌🏻 and thanks for watching and commenting 😁👍🏻
So...so, so so
@NorthCoastWorkshop
Жыл бұрын
Autocorrect playing up on ur phone? 🤣
You do realize E10 means 10% ethanol and E5 means 5% ethanol?
@NorthCoastWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and the remainder should be 90% or 95% unleaded fuel respectively 👍🏻
@MrD3000
2 жыл бұрын
E5 V-power doesn’t contain ethanol at all, at least not in The Netherlands.
@NorthCoastWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the heads-up. The V-power in the UK does contain 'up to' 5% ethanol, according to the Shell website. The only pumps that may still offer ethanol free versions is Esso synergy supreme fuels. Cheers for watching 👍🏻
@MrD3000
2 жыл бұрын
@@NorthCoastWorkshop Interesting. Must be different laws/standards per country. I fueled up my car today and the sticker on the pump stated "Shell V-power does not contain ethanol." It's 15 euros more on a full tank vs E10 but I do notice my car runs way smoother on it, especially at idle/low rpm. My car is old (2002) so I'm also worried what ethanol does to my gaskets and hoses. Plus, it's hydrophilic. I don't want damn water in my gas tank! They really are bastards for adding that garbage to gasoline.
@MrD3000
2 жыл бұрын
2002 Volvo S40 1.8 automatic by the way. 80k on the clock, bought it with 45k, garage kept. Looks new inside and out. Slow but comfortable and classy. Will hopefully be my happy car for the next 10 years. Love it.
Lol u trying to play hide and seek keep still man
@NorthCoastWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
😂 na mate, got bored after 10 minutes! 😁👍🏻
So.. so... soooooo.... way too many 'So's' Arghhhhhhhhh
@NorthCoastWorkshop
3 ай бұрын
Appreciate the constructive feedback
@mannaahmed9724
3 ай бұрын
@@NorthCoastWorkshop Sorry didn't mean to come across as harsh, great video and I watched till the end and LIKED. Cheers pal
@NorthCoastWorkshop
3 ай бұрын
No offence taken mate. When I watch older videos back I notice my bad grammar or repetitive words but by then it's too late to fix. Appreciate you watching 👍🏻