Im a motorcycle mechanic and have fitted countless NGK spark plugs since i began this malarkey in the mid 80,s. In that time ive only had one, repeat ONE! out of the box failed NGK. I am a firm believer that if the engine is not misfiring then there's is nothing to be had by going to a different, more expensive, plug in a mild or slightly tuned application.

@hotrodray6802

Жыл бұрын

I've found major differences in power with plug changes.... Depends on the engine I guess.

@needmoreboost6369

Жыл бұрын

Can’t go wrong with ngk! I’d worked as a small engine mechanic and for Briggs and Stratton motors the factory plug’s were champions and about once a year we’d get a dead box or at least 90% of em dead and I’d often risk getting in trouble by fitting ngk but knowing full well it’ll last several services and many years and be better for the shop and customer in the long run

@andrewromain7756

Жыл бұрын

I've never had an issue with NGK plugs in my motorcycles over the years, but I've probably only purchased around 30 plugs. My buddy just had a new one fail, and locked up his engine. Freshly built supermini Honda CR85 2 stroke race engine that wasn't cheap to build. Probably had 5 hours max on the engine tuning the lectron carb, pulled the old plug to check the tune which was dialed, and installed a fresh NGK one number hotter. First track session the following morning 2 laps in during warm up and the porcelain broke dropping into the cylinder and got wedged between the piston and transfer port locking it. Going to cost another 1000-1500 to rebuild... 🙃

@jimw8016

Жыл бұрын

I too am a powersports tech & an a&p mechanic with decades of experience. Ngk rocks. Champion sux! I have seen loss of response & minute power loss in gsxr1000s, cbrs, r1s & zx10rs going from a cr9e to cr9eix & any other iridium or platinum plug. Also, found autolite equivalent plugs to work as well as ngk! Too many times I've had polaris or other atvs running shitty with NEW champion plugs. Change to ngk or autolite & BOOM! FIXXED! no other changes

@nicopotgieter453

Жыл бұрын

@@hotrodray6802 Hi Ray, the power differences(spark plugs) race high Hp/compresion alchol fueled or milder pump-fuel set-ups? Is it V8 4cyl 2v or 4v (dizzy or coil packs) Not mocking, genuinely curious. Richards test are brilliant and a true blessing. The LS platforms have notoriously over-engineerd efficient ignition systems mild to wild(depending on your defeniton for wild) but at a certain rpm/boost/hp they do need an upgrade(ignition). But they so good from factory it seems you can through about any plug at the stock LS igniton system and they will work regardless off spark plug design or brand .Certain engines respond differently than other engine regards to spark plugs. Race engineers late 1990's tested a bunch of spark plugs on highly controlled/regulated high strung National Touring Car(Saloon car racing race) N/A 4cyl 16v. Race engineers tested a bunch of differant plug designs and brands on the dyno and they found a specific plug that worked better than the compition they made a ligitimate 4kw(5.36hp)gain. Is puny gain I know. But they considered a win as they did not break rules and this was on 300hp 2L N/A 16v Race Engine with all the good stuff for the time. Is slightly less than 2% gain from plugs. Where a gain of tested/proven 1% is a win in tightly controlled and highly competitive class, and a big deal to them. Anything over 3HP is measurable on track racing.minute but measurable. The specific engine from,the car was also the most dominant in our national race series coincidently(Not saying is only due to plug, that would be ridiculous) curious about what others have found on dyno with differant spark plugs. I find it very intresting.

My grandfather who owned and ran a service station post WWII always said the air and fuel doesn't care what's making the spark. As long as it's the right heat range, it doesn't care. Seems like he was right.

Now throw in a set of Bosch super plugs. They are the 1 plug I have seen kill the performance of more than 1 engine. When I worked for Dodge I lost track of how many times a car would come in running rough and low on power after a tune-up, pull the plugs to find the super cheap Bosch supers in there, swap in a set of used plugs, and the engine runs like new.

I run cheap ngk plugs in everything. Vehicles and ATVs runs great like they should.

@TravisFabel

Жыл бұрын

If its a powersports item from Japan or Europe, it gets NGK plugs. Some of them are more sensitive about it for things he's not testing here...

@jacksmiththeboss

Жыл бұрын

@@TravisFabel I ride Suzuki and drive Dodge. They work great

@darrylmarbut47

Жыл бұрын

Another smart mechanic,Its funny when I send people to the local O'Reilly and they try to push whatever junk plugs they have an excess of/Bosch/autolite Platinum whatever,then they get a dumb founded look when I say nope a want the cheapest ngk plug you have,I've put them in everything including a 367k ls that burned a quart plus a day n never had issues!

@supersportzcom

Жыл бұрын

Same. Good to read the plugs every 15k anyways

@jasonbirch1182

Жыл бұрын

I don't consider ngk to be "cheap" plugs. They aren't a stupid rip off(or maybe not,we'll see) like the iridium and whatever they try to sell you. Ngk are great.

I've always said if your engine is running right with the right mixture and timing it only takes one spark to get it going!

Man Richard preaching what I've been saying for years. I managed a parts store for about 10 years and always preached this info. All plugs if firing will make the same power. The difference in high dollar plugs is that the expensive alloy plugs will last longer without burning out and fouling as quickly as something like copper plugs. The NGK Lazer series plugs are designed with oem companies to be the best plug and are usually the OEM installed plugs. The only way to change how much power is Made is by changing cylinder pressure, either done by combustion chamber design or by forced or chemical induction. Copper is an ideal conductor. It's the reason your home uses copper wire. But in an engine it will burn away eventually.

Ive run copper cores in all my gen 3 applications since the early 2000s. Local tuner found " a strange small but repeated midrange power increase" with them. I guess this just confirms his statement.

@andyreiwitch8845

Жыл бұрын

Less resistence in the ignition system under compression allows the field coil to collapse and release the maximum power with the least energy wasted from resistence using copper over other exotic metals..., metal to metal... Copper is the best comparatively. Exotic metals were introduced due to the mess the emissions control equipment created and access to spark plugs so using these exotic metal plugs allows longer periods between plug changes... Not any more power, as evidenced here

@hydrocarbon8272

Жыл бұрын

Copper plugs don't last as long, after 60k miles an iridium plug will be making more power. I run copper where changing them is easy or on power adder engines. A dozen copper plugs are usually cheaper than one iridium, plus there's no chance you're getting a chinese clone.

@AndyR1982

Жыл бұрын

@@hydrocarbon8272 , i do my plugs every 50k so it isnt an issue anyway. I can get the coppers at 30% the price of the platinums so even changing them twice as much im saving money

I have a naturally aspirated LS7 that I have ran NGK TR6 spark plugs in platinum and copper variety at the same gap. I noticed the copper plug seemed to change the exhaust sound when revving up from idle, like it had more power as it swept through the revs. I didn't think much of it and installed a fresh set of platinum TR6 plugs a few months later. The sound and ease of revving from idle was reduced. This year I removed the platinum plugs and put in a set of copper TR6 plugs, hey guess what...the sound is back when revving from idle, sounds meaner. Your test definitely helped shed some light on subtle gains. On the chassis dyno though I didn't notice any gains that stood out at peak hp, maybe 0.5 to 1 hp at peak hp between the 2 materials, similar to what you showed.

Man I wanted this test for years to be done

Tried those E3 plugs in my new (at the time) 08 F150. Kept getting random misfires and sluggish performance, went back to the factory recommended platinum tip plug and the truck ran fine.

@elmerfudpucker3204

Жыл бұрын

Use iridium plugs, but don't use those multi tipped plugs. OEM ignition systems can't saturate the coils enough to warrant using them, and yes, they are prone to setting off misfire codes.

@tomreyn3610

Жыл бұрын

I know there is electronic feedback to the computer for fire. Plugs firing to different electrodes may send slightly diff signals. Maybe telling computer to adjust parameters. The factory spent time and research to know what’s (or which is) best. Because they do not want to burden the shops, or get a bad rep.

@JustAGuy85

Жыл бұрын

@@tomreyn3610 Yeah, which is why I was going to say there's nothing wrong with "double platinum" plugs to the poster above. That's what GM recommended in MANY engines before switching to iridium. Edit: OH, he meant multi-tipped (as he said). I agree, that multi-tip stuff is a huge gimmick. It always fires from one tip, anyways. I'm here because I bought 6x AC Delco Professional Iridium plugs for a 2000 Buick Park Ave with the 3800 Series II engine. The copper plugs in it (don't ask, I was dumber 15 years ago) when I put them into said Buick. It was my grandmother's (mine now). 2 of them started missing a month ago. Was getting misfire codes on cylinder 4 and 5. Driver side front and rear. I pulled out plug 5 (driver side front) and the "copper core" there was almost completely gone lol. Had about 38k miles on it. I know to change them at 20k, or that's the recommendation, but it had been so long, I forgot my stupid self opted for copper for "moar power." Now I have to go through the PITA of changing those plugs. The front ones are easy, of course. But, anyways, I went with the iridium. It was right around this year model (2000) that they went from recommending double platinum to iridium... so I just went iridium. I'll sell this car before these plugs go out. OH.. and they had went from a .055 gap to a .07+ gap in that 35-38k miles. Wow... But I may continue running copper plugs in my 86 F-150 5.0 EFI. Easy to change. Not sure if it would hurt anything going to iridium, though. If not, I'll just go with iridium. I have the timing bumped up and run 93 octane in it. I'll read into it it sometime.

@zachs6879

Жыл бұрын

I've used them on a few vehicles. They are best suited for older carbureted vehicles. I did use them on a 97 thunderbird though, and it didn't even want to run at first. After I disconnected the battery a while to hard reset the ecm, it was fine and performance/mpg showed small gains.

@katieandkevinsears7724

2 ай бұрын

I did that in a 2011 Fiesta. Immediately put the factory plugs back in and the misfire went away.

once again Richard comes in and kills the placebo effect ...awesome job! but if you've ever change the spark plugs on a 6-cylinder Subaru, you'll value iridium long lasting spark plugs.

@cgarris8674

Жыл бұрын

Same for a 351C with long tubes in a first gen Mustang. PITA to change!

I always use the autolite copper plugs.

Autolite plugs are used in some sports cars. Plus they have a 4,000 oms resistance. Which is less than other plugs. Giving you more stronger spark at the tip.

I'm glad to finally see E3s on the dyno. I am a tiny bit surprised. I've always suspected they would actually KILL a little power, due to the shrouding by the numerous and massive ground electrodes.

@The_Fat_Turtle

Жыл бұрын

They can work alright, but they do not last long. I wouldn't give more than 6-12 months on them before misfiring. They seem to work better than Bosch +4's but just about any standard plug from any manufacturer would work better.

@misters2837

Жыл бұрын

@@The_Fat_Turtle I have no idea where the Hate for +4s comes from....I put a set in My Chevy W/T with Vortec V6 when doing the tune up at 100K....I checked them at 200K and they were still good, at 286,000 miles when the body became unsafe for road use due to rust, the +4s were still in it, Now its a Farm Truck that gets used for wood hauling, it was -15F yesterday and it fired right up...there is over 180,000 miles on those plugs and they still run like new.

@flinch622

Жыл бұрын

The variances will be lightly affected by chamber geometry, which means the test here only covers LS heads. As an aside... I hate dealing with autozone. I have gone in with manufacturers part number in hand only to receive dumb looks [since their training stops at year/make/model], and to add insult to injury I get told to go look up their unique in-house part # on THEIR website so they can "look it up" in store. Preposterous business model if you'e a hot rodder. If there is one thing I like about E3, its that design forces a more asymmetrical flame kernel compared to traditional design. What I don't like about E3 is their website - no filter to drill down on reach, sealing design etc. Also... no downloadable catalog that I could find. I guess the NHRA guys all have to call? Aftermarket heads do not fit in the year/make/model box

@MrTheHillfolk

Жыл бұрын

All it does is have more sharp edges than a normal plug, and plugs like to fire from a sharp edge. Tbh I've seen more runability issues because of them, so I'll swap in standard plugs and retest the problem.

@tthams73

Жыл бұрын

Nothing conducts better than copper!

“Like cologne, a little goes a long ways.”😂 Great life advice. Appreciate all that you do sir 👍🏻

@button-puncher

Жыл бұрын

Like the Frank's Red Hot Sauce commercial, "I use that shiz on everything." Living in the rust belt, it's a must. And that big jug that Richard showed, best bang for the buck. I bought the nickel version and it actually wipes off you hands unlike the silver stuff. Jug has lasted me over a decade.

@orangetruckman

Жыл бұрын

@@button-puncher -Living in the woods ya gotta buy it in bulk and know how much you have!

I’ve ran a set of e3 spark plug’s in my 63 Chevy 283 m/t two wheel drive pick up truck for years I think I got them when they first became available to purchase I replaced them because the factory plugs were fouling from leaking valve seals and would have to be pulled weekly and cleaned after putting the e3 plugs in I’ve never pulled them I still have the points distributer and oil bath air cleaner so for me they are great

I want friggin sharks with friggin spark plugs attached to their friggin heads!

@richardholdener1727

Жыл бұрын

WITH FRICKIN LASER BEAMS

Thanks for doing this. For the cost I always wondered about the e3 plugs

Thanks Richard.. That is the kind of testing we have seen KNOW WHERE else

The previous owner of my 6.0L truck installed the e3 diamonds not long before selling and within 6 months they were misfiring. I also tried Bosch +4 plugs when I was a dumb kid on a 4.3L work truck and they just misfired out of the box. I have since just assumed all gimmick sounding spark plugs are going to be garbage. If NGK sells a standard plug for the application, I am going to use them.

This was awesome! Thanks for testing!!!!

I had iridium plugs get the tips rounded off, and never figured out why. That was on a bone stock car. I put new iridiums back in and checked it 20K miles later. They were fine. The last two cylinders are hard to reach, and I'm gonna leave it that way. -- Otherwise, I just run copper. I understand that copper plugs don't last as long, but haven't managed to wear out a set. -- Yeah, I've had no-start situations and check engine lights that were fixed by putting new plugs in, but for all I know, the plugs could have had some sort of defect.

Thank you for finally putting advertising to rest!! The gap was way more revealing than the advertising!! Thanks Rich please keep on testing!!

Awesome test, I've always wondered about his.

I switched out the standard NGK UR-5's with compatible E-3's at the track in my mid-12 second(at the time) Buick 455 and saw basically nothing after the switch. MSD 6AL ignition. Luckily I got the E3's off E-Bay for a reasonable price compared to the usual local prices. Kept them in just because and they still run fine a few years later.

I love these comparison videos

I take credit for the idea behind this video, love it!

Just proved how good them chambers are designed and it Ignition system, Try 1960s motors with single points when this was popular.

Very interesting video Richard!!! 👌🏻

Single post has beat these fance plugs in every test I've seen. I guess the question is longevity. Imma go with mid range to save few bucks

Over 40 years working on cars. These are some of the problems I've run a crossed. 2 Mopars, one with a slant 6 and the other a 360 that wouldn't start with champion plugs but ran ok with autolites. 3 Fords with point distributors that wouldn't start or missed like hell because the distributor lost ground. Despite the fact the distributor has contact with the oil pump, cam and block and a new ground wire for the point plate to the distributor. A simple ground wire running to the distributor solved the problem. 3 cars with severe misses because the tech used way too much gray anti seize on the plug threads. Cleaned them and the plug holes and use a very small amount of the same anti seize and problem solved.

Once again a great dyno test run video. Take a look at when exotic type plug became more common place . It seemed to be when OBDII became the standard in 1996. With this system part of it was a vehicle that would remain clean running for 100k before needing significant service to the engine. The exotic type metals would do this. Copper plugs did the job for 75 plus years before o.e. install was a exotic metal type. I welcome other thoughts and observations on this.

Just had a customer with a supercharged 5.7 Hemi come in today. Said he put a new exhaust on and wanted to retune, particularly because he picked up a misfire on the top end after the exhaust. I was perplexed. Didn't think the new exhaust would make that big of a difference. Short story - it didn't. Customer also replaced his plugs with the E3 units, using the as delivered plug gap. Yeah - don't do that.

@richardholdener1727

Жыл бұрын

GOOD CATCH

I find that iridium are always the best. I use these in all my engines.

wow the cheap plugs did great. i made a comment about arc blowout a while ago. i said that the arc gets blown out. iv seen arc blow out when the arc travels a long distance. However, i did try to blow out the arc from my arc lighter using compressed air. The arc never went out. the arc would bend and deform but would never go out. so i learned something. thank you.

@tannerharris5848

2 ай бұрын

I had spark blow out but I was boosted at 24 psi I was having issues with spark blow out it is an issue

Watching the video, sitting in my tahoe, running with a head and cam swap, and the factory original ac delco spark plugs with 253xxx miles on it. With the head and cam swap at 175xxx. Buddy asked me if i was buying new plugs. I said, these are still working perfect... they are still working perfect today. Pretty wild.

Very informative video! At the end of the day, a spark plug is designed to ignite fuel/air mixture. They either will or they won't. The way I see it, the design/material the center and ground electrodes are made of can dictate the longevity of the plugs. And, with the way the factories are hiding the plugs on a lot of the engines, I personally want a plug to last AS LONG AS POSSIBLE!! 😀

Thank for this test.

This is awesome Richard I have been needing to change my spark plugs but which one to choose

I used e3 here the last change in both vehicles about 6 months ago.(Wifes truck and my car) Really depends on how you drive for how long they last. She's a conservative driver. Her plugs still look great. And my car sees the redline a lot! And are in need of a change again.

Ive own my own repair shop for 34 yrs and personally saw an E3 lose a ground electrode and ruin the exhaust valve and seat. I also saw 2 Bosch Platinums lose the center electrode and ruin both exhaust valves and seats.

Copper is the most conductive but also the softest metal and will wear the fastest. There's always trade offs in life. The Ultra Irderpium plugs are for stock engines that have the hood opened once every 100k. Thanks again Richard. Funny how the E3 sponsored dyno shows make more power **cough** PowerNation **cough**.

For longtivity I've always found aoutolight and motorcraft to last the longest. Champions always came up short. Used e3 in an old dodge 5.2 that lasted a long time but 2 plugs had failed.

I like the E3 plugs for normal use ! they do not like high voltage coil packs ! The ceramic insulator will start to leak to the base causing a misfire !

Excellent test to backup old knowledge. If the ignition system is working properly, plugs and/or wires will not increase power production.

Ran e3 on our 2007 Tahoe for almost 4yrs ran fine. A couple months ago we did a tune up and changed our the 4yr old e3s for new e3s along with new coils and wires. Runs great everytime no issues no need to deal with needing to gap the plugs. Plus you get a nice exhaust pops after you rev it up.

@michaelenglund4963

Жыл бұрын

Spark plug change causing exhaust to pop after accelerating isn’t what I’d consider “runs great”. 😂

I have a set of E3's to go in my 4200 Atlas but my guru homeboy on the west coast said go back with the AC Delco Iridiums & let it ride! I removed the AD Delco Iridiums that were in there when I bought my 2005 Trailblazer LS & I had 130,000 miles at the time I pulled the plugs & they were the OE plugs & WOW, none were fouled, just worn! I was changing the coils & figured why not throw a fresh set of plugs while I had gone that far. It was running smooth but I wanted to know how the plugs looked anyway since I had bought it at 124,000 miles. New plugs & coils & Wix filters, Dynomax Super Turbo muffler & resonator delete with a set of double walled stainless steel tips out back & she is running primo smooth 🥰 Also have Marvel Mystery oil in the engine & 1oz mix in with every fill up of 93 octane. When I mash on it she doesn't hesitate! Cold air & tune next🥰👍🏿

The Austin powers laser reference had me rolling 😂

A little dab on anti-seize is enough to paint everything you own a lovely shade of silver

@hotrodray6802

2 ай бұрын

Prefer copper

Great test, I'm loving this ignition system testing since it's so applicable to so many different setups. You are the first person I have seen dyno test indexing and gapping spark plugs. If I may suggest some future tests, I think "high performance" coils, performance plug wires, side gapping the spark plugs, and different oil grades and types would be great information for a lot of people too.

@HomeSkillet832

Жыл бұрын

Could you ask about more things that don't change much at all

@dametrian83

Жыл бұрын

I’d like to add spark plug wire length. Is the shortest the best or like indexing does having them all the same length help.

@richardholdener1727

Жыл бұрын

COILS-NOTHING, PLUG WIRES-NOTHING, SIDE GAP-NOTHING, OIL TEST POSTING TODAY

@averyalexander2303

Жыл бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 Sweet, looking forward to that video!

I watched another test with a similar premise done by David Vizard. He speaks highly of you. 👍

@richardholdener1727

Жыл бұрын

DAVID VIZARD IS GOOD PEOPLE-EVERYONE GO WATCH HIS CHANNEL

I work with CNG heavy duty engines that use the 3 ground electrodes with a tiny gap. The 3 prongs and tiny gap are designed to keep the ionization of molecules from being blown out. On a gasoline engine I would assume no difference unless under high boost with high swirl combustion chambers. So there is a place for fancy spark plugs but not an LS.

Fascinating results! I wonder, though, if you might see more difference at lower rpm, part throttle, or BSFC or something. Everyday driving scenarios.

I would like to see the same brands. Like laser ngk copper ngk ect. I dont think it'll make a difference but i figure it's worth a check. I run ngk in my b16a allmotor only thing i change is the nuber i run 7s in winter and 6s in the summer Tyvm 4 all your content very helpful

Od love to see some ruthenium HX sparkplugs be compared as well to any of these

Excellent Intel. Thank you Richard 🏁🏁🏁

@richardholdener1727

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

13 years ago my local distributor gave me a set of 16 I put them in my hemi. I still have 14 of them in there to the day in 13 years I’ve only had two of them go bad. One of them was only three months old it went to a dead mess at 3000 RPM the other one I replaced about two years ago it had quit firing all together it runs no different and it currently has 14 E3’s and two champions.

Did all that 15 years ago! Same results! Upgrade the coil to make sure they got a good spark! That seemed to make your runs consistent! And, most guys are probably running a carb bigger than they need!

Great vid

i just changed my plugs in my 2015 6.0 last week and they have 163,000 and look great! they went right in the boxes the new ones came in,i will be saving them for start up plugs for our junk yard 5.3 swap project! :)

@operatingengineer

Жыл бұрын

@Richardholdener sounds like a scam

Myth busted! Great video Richard! Looks like I need to find some OEM used plugs to get the best bang for the buck…

@richardholdener1727

Жыл бұрын

I DO LIKE JUNKYARD PLUGS! SOMETIMES WE FIND FRESH ONES!

Hey Richard, love your videos as always. I will say that Iridium and Platinum plugs have slightly different intents, as well as the new Ruthenium plugs. Would really enjoy a comparison between Copper, Platinum, Iridium, and Ruthenium all from the same brand. NGK would be the brand obviously. Iridium plugs are used in racing, Ruthenium are supposed to be sort of a jack of all trades. I suspect there would be few differences in a single dyno run vs a high stressed engine under endurance conditions, but would be interesting to see.

@richardholdener1727

Жыл бұрын

don't look for any power change from plugs-unless misfire

I've been waiting for someone to do this to compare fancy to standard.

Joe Elmore, Chuck Hansen and Stacey David used to worship the E3 sparkplug gods. Used them in everything and claimed they were the bees knees. Amazing what endorsements a product can get when they are a major sponsor to a Sunday morning car show.

Great show

Had a high compression Buck 350 in a 1972 skylark. It was torquey and responsive. Had to have platinum plugs or it would zap the spark plugs and burn the oil up. Ran pump gas.

Im running NGK plugs in 04 8.1 silverado 3500 srw. Over a year now so far so good . 35" gap from fact.

one thing i achieved by using E3s was a stronger cumbustion stability. Idle could be lowered another 100 rpm and it ran a bit smoother. Powerwise there was no difference..

I won a set of 16 E3 plugs at a car show over in Adel Ga 6.7 years ago at southern Mopar week. Just ram across em cleaning out a box of old stuff in the shop and came in to look up this video. Guess it’s just money savings for next plug change being plugs are crazy high now days.

@richardholdener1727

Күн бұрын

they work-especially when they are free-they just don't add power

@Formerlywarmer

Күн бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 😂 I’ll use em next change on something

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copper is a much better conducter than those exotic metals. so the copper plug will actually make a hotter and bigger spark which means combustion will be just a tad better. but they will not last nearly as long as the exotic metal plugs will. a fuel economy and combustion chamber deposit comparison would have been very interesting. would have also been interesting just to see the plugs fired side by side outside of the engine.

Thanks

Ive noticed when tuning iridium is more susceptible to knock with aggressive timing. Although it idles better than copper and seems to have more response down low in the rpms. I agree the main trade off is useful life. I recommend copper for track cars and iridium for pure street cars

I back cut the ground strap on my autolite and ngk copper plugs and that's my best combo.

I ran e3 for years never had a problem I even run them in my Harley

E3 plugs gave me a misfiring engine in about 10,000 miles. I went back to the factory plugs that day.

I'm surprised you haven't done a ls coil pack dyno test. Rumor has it the round coils with heat sink at the top auto fire causing engine failure on the dyno.

There is differences in plugs,, if you use a colder plug in a high comp engine. The iridium plugs last a LOT longer and cost a LOT more. I changed the plugs on my Landcruiser 4500 with near 400000 km. They were worn out though the thing ran fine, even on LPG. I suspect they were the original plugs. It did seem a little more economical after,

Exactly what I thought, results all in run to run variance. Main difference has always been how long they last , especially under boost. Mostly because they are a huge pain to change on some engines now so they use ones that will last a lonnngg time.

@kalui96

Жыл бұрын

Like a Porsche Turbo, where the plugs are in a "hard to reach" place, and in a high output/stress setup

@GapSauceYoutube

Жыл бұрын

When you are at the limits of the coils due to blow-out, that's when some plugs will shine. Copper tends to work well with high boost application.

Project farm tested plugs and the e3s actually were more fuel efficient. Pretty wild test

@richardholdener1727

Жыл бұрын

I love project farm-but would like to see much more data

It would be awsome if you did a coolant additive test......like redline water wetter ect . I think it would be a great vid.

I got Diamondfires for my 1MZ-FE recently firing a parts gun at a developing backfire issue, they seem to work pretty well so far. Granted, when I pulled the old ones out it became clear to me that they had seen the full 316,925 miles that this engine has run in its 21 years, horridly burned up, with tons of transfer deposits on both the ground and electrode, and about a third of the ground literally burned away judging by how thick the spark point was compared to the arm leading up to it. I didn't think that the diamondfire thing would do much of anything power wise, and this video kind of shows that is the case normally, but coming from the plugs that were in there, with how out of spec they had become after running for so long, I am actually seeing some extra power out of them. As for fuel economy, I can't say anything yet as they've only been in for about a day and one short drive to make sure everything worked at least as well as before, though I didn't get to test the driving conditions that I was getting backfire through yet. I'm not saying to get diamondfires or laser platinums, just, don't be like the original owner of my '03 Avalon, do more regular maintenance than just oil changes.

I had E3's in 94 454 lasted 1 year then had misfires put autolite coppers in and ran great for 6 years b4 pulling motor for rebuild

Auto lite copper. Good stuff. Most NA motors dyno at at around 12.8 12.7. My best ets on NA is 12.7

Richard! I have a 6.0 in my 2003 SS sjlverado to start off with, l pulled out the Platt. 1month old plugs, put in E3's no other mods! I could feel the difference Right away! in The seat of pants feel! Ran Better,started easer, PICKED UP AT LEAST 1.3MPG! AGAIN NO OTHER THINGS ON THE TRUCK TOUCHED! PUT A SET E3'S IN MY WIFE'S AVALANCHE W/5.3, SAME DEAL YOU CAN FEEL THE EXTRA POWER IN THE SEAT OF PANTS! also some mpg!

@richardholdener1727

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no on the power, I would like to see your test procedure for mpg

@jimbosayers1024

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@@richardholdener1727 hay Richard, picked out a distance, backand forth With repeated it, with e3's and before with platt.plugs 4trips average With my truck Computer and by calculator! Always 1.mpg To 1. 3 and as much as 1. 4mpg. With different weather!

I use what's recommended when I have an OEM ECU. Aftermarket ECU I run NGK Copper.

Thx

My Saab tuner recommends NGK BCPR7ES-11 copper plugs they’re affordable and I change them every other oil change

My favorite gimmick spark plug!

I put e3's in my wife's V6 Volkswagen Passat one time and it ran like crap and drank gas. I returned them and got the recommended oem plugs and it ran great. Since then, I've stayed away from them. They also make a chainsaws run like crap too.

You rock bro

I’ve tried the E3 plugs twice and they aren’t reliable. One set in a Sportster and it would shut down on me and the other set in a Echo blower and it wouldn’t crank back up after it got hot. Put the old plugs back and still running. The only reason I changed them to the E3 was I just figured it was time to change the plug, but it was running fine.

Put E-3's in my Denali Yukon, 6.0. Only used them because they were sale on Amazon for $2.99 ea. Haven't noticed any difference. Years ago, my Cheville (396, 12.2 CR, big Chet Herbet Cam (don't remember), M-22 Rock Crusher, 3800-lb clutch, ran 11:88, 141-mph in '72/73 at Irwindale. The real Irwindale where the brewery is now. AC's lasted the best followed by NKG. That motor ate plugs like a big dog eats steak!

Not sure why, but my 1st choice is AC delco

@hotrodray6802

2 ай бұрын

Only thing that will run in my 383 Charger. 👍👍

I've never believed any performance gains from plugs. Ignition is ignition. I think it's more if your ignition system can reliabily fire the plug. And I think it's less of a worry on these V8's with high powered ignition. I have a 1994 Kawasaki Ninja in the garage that no matter what I did, I could not get it to run. Last thing I did was change out the brand new Autolite plugs to a set of NGK platinum and it fired right up. I'm thinking different resistance through the plug let one fire and one not to. I think that's the biggest thing with plugs, other than life span.

I've had damn good luck out of the E3 plugs and multiple different vehicles and engines

After watching this and the Engine Masters show on plugs it is pretty clear that bigger gap to an extent, will increase power, not the specific plugs. I found that to be true when I had a Moto Guzzi. I replaced the junk weak stock coils with Ford Motorcraft coils (used) with ballast resistors. It immediately had a hotter spark and I could gap them out to .040". I won't say it ran better, but with what I've seen I would say it did probably work better. Did run and idle better at low rpm. My brother did the same change on his RD400, as did a friend with his RD350, definitely an improvement and no fouled plugs. I have to believe it is the bigger hotter spark of the wider gap. The voltage to jump the gap has to be higher and obviously the gap means a larger spark as well. I found this and Holdener's other video where he did gap changes when looking to find some factual proof if E3 did anything or not. Clearly not. Yet there are people claiming 15-20 hp gain. A bit hard to believe for sure now. I could believe they may make engines run a bit better if the gap to the electrode is bigger making a larger hotter spark, but all it takes is one spark to fire the mix. And that spark will be between the best two points to fire, not all over the place, like when there is consistent electrical pressure making the spark virtually continuously firing. That doesn't happen in the real world of firing the fuel mix in an IC engine. One good spark and bang! It fires... flame on!

I can't figure for the life of me why nothing but Copper plugs will cleanly fire under boost on my 3.8L Ford. Above about 5psi platinum and iridium plugs will start to misfire even gapped down to .020. Toss coppers in and it pulls clean to 11psi and will keep firing clean up to about .040 gap ( I run them at .030). Running 11.5:1 A/F so not overly rich. I'm thinking the coil pack, single 6 post type, may be on the weak side.

I like your videos short to-the-point not all the technical mumbo-jumbo but when you say it made a little bit of power you need to say how much power if it's a corner of a horsepower more than let us know cuz that's what you're comparing is not just a little bit can't measure a little bit. You said the same thing with the 8.1 changing headers it made just a little bit that was 10 horsepower and torque that's quite a bit that's info we need to know so thank you keep up the good work

@richardholdener1727

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please look at the graphs-the plugs made zero difference

I used to believe the platinum hype in my early 20's but was told by a racing team to just use standard copper plugs, like NGK, on my 350 sbc and I have ever since. Plats may last longer but I would still change them during a tune up anyway.