I just looked at the analytics on this video, and the average watch time is right around the six minute mark. Please watch through this entire video as there is quite a lot of information in this. We are only clocking an extra nine minutes. We very much appreciate this.

@shredmas

5 ай бұрын

Listening on headphones and you voice only comes out of the left side. Maybe that's why.

@ratpup

5 ай бұрын

Re the 6 min ave watch time…I’m 100% on your side on this issue but when you don’t have clarity of facts about the tragic accident or say “I’m not on top of the world right now and haven’t done research” and “I THINK it’s 20mph for class 1, maybe it’s a little lower…” (class 1 & 2 are 20mph) right around the 6 min mark, ppl will signed off. Your making a great point, don’t apologize or discount your intended message which has great points about helmets and “undefined e-bikes”! E-bikes are bringing people back to a great mode of commuting or exercising, keep making great arguments and educating so the uninformed politicians don’t make uneducated, knee-jerk reactions to a great evolution of biking.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

@@ratpup I do appreciate that and it is noted. Thanks much for watching. The day that this happened I just had a cancer treatment but I did want to get this video put together to go out on Monday. That's why I told people I was not completely on top of the world. I did not want to give the false impression that I had looked into this extensively. Thanks very much, I will definitely keep this thought in mind as well.

@davidressler4292

5 ай бұрын

message is well received. I've listened to the entire thing. Your style is jawboning and it is not clear if the rest of the time will deliver a new point or simply rehash the same old points. I suggest making up a talking point list and perhaps reviewing at the onset what you are going to cover (30 seconds), then go into the message and deliver your points in order. Thanks for putting this together

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

@@davidressler4292 I appreciate the advice. Will certainly look closer at it. The day I did this video, I just had a cancer treatment the day before, so I was a bit drained at the time of shooting it. But I did wanna get this video together, so that’s why we did it. that being said, I have been known to go on and on about the same thing a time or two. So I will certainly see about improving on that. Thanks for respectful critique. It’s much appreciated David.

Imagine if we banned cars for 60 days after every accident where someone died . . .

@southernebiking

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. Thanks for watching

@southernebiking

2 ай бұрын

@@Robert-jd6po first off let me say thank you for watching Robert. And thank you for putting a crossed a reasonable debate. Secondly, it is written in the state statutes that local municipalities can control their sidewalks and bike paths and restrict them from ebikes. They are also doing this on public roads. Thirdly, and make no mistake. My prayers are with the family of the person who passed. But they are using. This is nothing but a weapon. They are completely swept under the rug that she was not wearing a helmet. When someone tried to bring up this fact in a town meeting discussing this, they were booed out and escorted out by the police. That is not sound like people are looking for change for the betterment of everyone. That has more ringing of a mob. And lastly, the state statute defines what is an E bike. If in fact they were having problems with the youth in this town. I can almost promise you it is not on what is legally defined as an E bike. So instead of taking care of true culprits, they have decided to throw a blanket over everything. This is my problem with what they are doing in this town. Not completely sure of the legality of banning these on the road. Because defined E bikes are considered the same as a bicycle, with the same rights. That would be kind of like banning a blue Mustang, because one was in an accident. I do not believe the law allows you to react that way. Again, thank you for watching.

@sscbkr48

Ай бұрын

A mechanic at a bike shop said he rides an ebike because he lost his licence.. dui. Car drivers have a licence and insurance. In BC ebikes have neither. Ebike batteries have blown windows out of residences and killed some in close quarters. So sure, do some investigating before you unleash unregulated ebikes on the road, and being fast and silent, they have no business on a sidewalk either.

@southernebiking

Ай бұрын

@sscbkr48 And your investigation is " A bike mechanic said"

@stevesecret2515

Ай бұрын

@@southernebiking It is in the news. Search for it and you will find it easily.

The establishment is so afraid we're going to travel for free.

@southernebiking

4 ай бұрын

Surely not. Are they not for we the people? I might wanna be quiet before they start taxing the air I breathe. Thanks for watching and enjoy your evening.

@theroadsnearyou...5088

4 ай бұрын

Don’t worry, they’ve got plans for taxing the air you breath!@@southernebiking

@bravojr

4 ай бұрын

The Kings land, is defined by the Kings rules, YOU WILL PAY PEASENT ! *SPITS EVERYWHERE WHILE EATING A CHICKEN LEG THE SIZE OF A TURKEY*

@jashuasmith9361

4 ай бұрын

BINGO!

@ossumopossum

4 ай бұрын

this was great and clearly demonstrates the need for classification, certification and safety advocacy. the metro suburb valley i live in has a bike path that runs the entire length with many under crossings and protected signals at major roads. if the community adopted cycling as a means of transportation we are going to see a massive rise in single and multi cyclist injury. i think we will see dash cams become standard to prove fault because healthcare is so expensive (usa)

How about faulting the individual person that does something stupid, rather than faulting everyone as a whole.

@iankelly3081

4 ай бұрын

Good point. It's not the bike it's the rider.

@BillySBC

4 ай бұрын

That's not how laws are made, what they do for one they must do for all. When you see fools going around acting jackass on these bikes let them know you're a biker too and want them to knock it off.

@NickFrom1228

4 ай бұрын

@@BillySBC Yes, tell people being idiots to knock it off but as iankelly3081 pointed out, it's still the rider and not the bikes so there was no need to ban the bikes.

@BillySBC

4 ай бұрын

@@NickFrom1228 Tell that to the general public that wants the a-holes with the electric bikes off the sidewalks and out of the road. Like anything else, fools will ruin it for everyone.

@sammyjimsmith6100

4 ай бұрын

On ur video u show going right thru a stop sign

ridiculous, people have been dying on bicycles for decades and i don't see them being banned, also in cars, motorcycles, agricultural machinery, planes, in bathtubs. people die all the time yet one person dies in a electric bike accident and they want to ban them. unbelievable.

@southernebiking

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching Dan. As I am sure you already know, this is not about some person who had an accident. It is about this particular person having an accident and knowing someone at a high level. Sad that this is the way things work. Enjoy the rest of your evening.

@garybregel1572

Ай бұрын

Liberal mentality.

@southernebiking

Ай бұрын

@@garybregel1572 thank you for watching Gary. On the surface I would certainly agree with you as it certainly falls under that same category. Believe it or not, this town is considered to be conservative, and it is a Republican senator that they have working with them to do this. I guess it just falls back to what I have said long ago the, the only right, and left in politics, is nothing more than the right cheek, and the left cheek of the same tail end.

@JWC24.7

Ай бұрын

@@garybregel1572: In Flori-DUH?!?! YOU’RE DUMB! 🤐

@RiversRun597

6 күн бұрын

@@garybregel1572 in Florida? More like the opposite surely

There's a teenager in my town that speeds around on his 60mph Sur-Ron ebike. People like him are going to ruin it for everybody.

@user-ke9yk5qp3u

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, but if you ride one you will understand what that teenager is doing. It is the time of your life! They are so damn fun!

@Scomelbasses

5 ай бұрын

@@user-ke9yk5qp3uI’m fine with Sur-Ron’s, but they need to be registered and insured as they are motor vehicles and not bicycles.

@user-ke9yk5qp3u

5 ай бұрын

@@Scomelbasses no can-do. They do not come with titles and there is absolutely no way to register them or get them insured.

@Scomelbasses

5 ай бұрын

@@user-ke9yk5qp3u then something else will have to be done, maybe require Sur-Ron to lower the power to conform to the bike classifications or require them to have vin numbers and titles. As they are, they're not legal for the road or trails in most places.

@user-ke9yk5qp3u

5 ай бұрын

@@Scomelbasses probably not gonna happen. No one in my area cares. Cruising on the streets or on the trails in five different cities and no one pays any attention as long as you're being friendly and courteous. I ride past cops all the time on mine and never once have they stopped me. I also have a scooter that go 45+ mph, and an electric unicycle that goes even faster than that. I ride my electric unicycle down main street at 35 miles an hour and the cops don't even look at me. I also have an electric skateboard that goes over 30 miles an hour. And I installed a chip on my electric mountain bike to override the 20 mile an hour speed limiter.

3,394 lives lost to cars and trucks in Florida last year: nothing done. 1 life lost in accident involving an e-bike: e-bikes banned. And the person who died would have done so in a collision with anything. Hypocrisy much?

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

Of course, it is hypocrisy. But it’s not going to change until you let your politicians know statistics like this. Everybody keeps saying oh this is crazy. Oh, they can’t do this. Guess what they are. Irregardless, thanks for watching and please let your public servants know how you feel about this.

@DOCWHOK9

5 ай бұрын

" reg-u-la-tions" are NOT Laws, SHOVE YOUR "RULES". BAN CARS, BAN PEOPLE, BAN EVERYTHING 😂

@Doc.Holiday

5 ай бұрын

We are becoming an illogical society. I’m left feeling like Spock more-and-more every day. Statistically speaking.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

@@DOCWHOK9 that is good in theory. But then you’re the one left to fight it.

@jokermtb

5 ай бұрын

Ironic that Florida has NO helmet law for motorcycles, yet are fine with all the motorcycle deaths….. it’s all about control

When you ride e-bikes you don’t spend money on gas, insurance ect. That’s a no no!

@stevesecret2515

3 ай бұрын

You don't spend money for those things with pedal bikes either. Is anyone banning pedal only bikes?

@ericbennett1872

2 ай бұрын

I don't think so Tim...lol

@zero_cool817

2 ай бұрын

Also they ticket us for seatbelts and window tint and all the other vehicle code revenue generators for the state.

@ericbennett1872

Ай бұрын

@@-BUFFALOMan not going to happen.

@Flyingaceful

Ай бұрын

​@@-BUFFALOManDream on.

Can't allow a device that can get you around from A to B without paying heavy taxes now can we??

@southernebiking

4 ай бұрын

Especially if they become popular. IE more people to tax.

@billmartins5545

Ай бұрын

Just ride a pedal bicycle. Better for you health too than being a slob on an ebike.

@ezl8002

Ай бұрын

Yep, need to find a way to spend all of the thieving money in the form of taxes on Pet Projects and ways to bloat the bureaucracy.

A girl tourist got drunk and hit a bride and groom on a golf cart in my town and killed the bride. They didn't ban golf carts, alchohol or weddings or tourist. But somehow it makes sense to ban ebikes after one accident.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

You are correct it does not make sense. And yet they are still doing it. This is why I am trying to get this information out as I can to talk to your representation. Thank you so much for watching.

@TheAgentAssassin

5 ай бұрын

To be fair the person in the car was going 60mph in a 35mph zone. Why not ban cars on that island?

@Ruhan885

5 ай бұрын

Stupid comparison. You are not legally allowed to drink and drive and that drive is facing felony charges

@rwent1

4 ай бұрын

@@Ruhan885 No, it’s not a stupid comparison because no one is blaming the golf cart yet these idiots are blaming the ebike. It’s the BEHAVIOR that should be regulated, not the inanimate object.

@Doc.Holiday

4 ай бұрын

@@rwent1,… you can talk until you are blue. First know that I’m 70 but graced but still have the ability to reason. When people get old they suffer from arrested development. E-bikes are foreign to them. Simple old minds are not capable of critical thought. I talk to old people a lot. They just aren’t capable of understanding anything but simplicity. Banning e-bikes is a shiny object they can grasp.

I use to cycle with a group when I lived in Portland, OR. A few of the guys I cycled with, were 70s-80s. These guys were no longer strong enough to ride a standard bike. These guys have been riding all their lives. Owning e-bike gave them the opportunity to cycle in their last stages of life. Why would u take that away fr these guys? I don’t own an e-bike. But I do own & operate an electric scooter.

I remember about four years ago I commented on videos of Ebike riders driving recklessly. I said those riders would ruin it for the rest of us who are responsible. Most of the responders called me a Karen and a boomer. Well, here we are.

@southernebiking

14 күн бұрын

@@truhunk1 One hundred percent agree with you. Thank you much for watching, and you are correct

I live in downtown Memphis TN. I walked to the post office last Saturday to mail a letter. Two 4-wheelers sped up behind me and missed me by inches ON THE SIDEWALK. Ebikes are being singled out for bullying. -- I am just now looking into getting an ebike as an alternate means of getting to work (8 miles each way). With 2 bad knees and a heart condition, an ebike is the only way biking will be possible at all. But, I have to use alternate transportation on Fridays. Twice now, I've nearly had a heart attack chasing a city bus because it blew right past the stop like I wasn't even there, waving down the driver even. I think the message is: Drive a car, buy gas/oil, and buy insurance, or lose your job... or just die on the side of the road anyway, chasing a effing bus that ignores you. They don't care which, so long as somebody makes a dollar.

@southernebiking

3 ай бұрын

Good luck with it friend. I think the E bikes are being singled out because they have not charged enough money to us for riding them yet. Stay safe.

@RonCaldera

2 ай бұрын

Why bother with it- ride it! Screw it so what we outnumbered by car drivers that just don’t like us just because our numbers low and if it was reversed cars would be having same thrown at them. So go ahead.. just politely say no!

@cblu535

Ай бұрын

WoW! Your comment was so interesting to read because I live in a small-town MI and have the same medical issues, as well as others. I've been looking into E-bikes for years and became more determined lately because the city bus system not only seem to hate to see me coming with my electric or manual wheelchairs... meaning the driver will have to buckle them down, get up out of thier seats, and possible be late getting to connecting buses for their transfers. They absolutely been late before they ever got to my stop, and I have even gone so far as to sit on the seat, so they can do the least, yet they use me as an excuse, Also, they have recently changed the whole bus schedule after getting the whole whatever extra funds for Covid where we were able to ride for free, they then decided that they could not find any new drivers, so they are now not running on the weekends, stopping all rides at 3pm, instead of 6pm, and only running every hour, not half hour. They took out many stops and have gone through so many drivers who they claim did not have the right attitude for the work. Of course it was all the kind, polite ones that go so quickly. Anywho I elect to use my manual chair so that I can use my legs and get up to stretch, get my blood flowing, and work up a good heart rate, as I have AFIB. I wonder if I could handle riding an E-Bike but it's my last opportunity to stay active, get out sometimes to get away from a neighbor who illegally smokes in the apt under me. As I have a few disabilities working against me, I am very concerned that this is just another way to dive into the elderly's funds and keep us reliant in a way that they can track us and any money we get. Someone at the bus garage has the driver of bus i get on call in and let them know every time I get on the bus, by stating where I got on, if I got a transfer, where I'm transferring to, and where I'm getting off. So, this a way of tracking people, where the bikes would give us our freedom & independence back, if I can tolerate it on my spine. Lastly, I just saw a video where a guy is showing how he just built an E-Bike to go up to 100 miles an hour, SO? Can you imagine what these younger ones could get away with when it comes to police chasing them? I think it would be best the to give more work to construction and road workers to build certain areas that are more bikers only, and bike friendly, so the traffic would be better between them. May restrictions for certain ones on certain paths, but we just can't have the U.S. fighting for climate control, for cleaner air, only to make it cost more than driving, or as much. That seems very counterproductive and lacks respects or concerns for the seniors who need it most.

@southernebiking

Ай бұрын

@@cblu535 You could also take a look at an E-trike. May be just the thing for you.

@user-gw4rt7in2w

Ай бұрын

I'm very disabled back spine actually shifted n I can only get out on a bike to Walk the dog but of course my time out on bike I got pulled over by police n taken off road I'm 58 I was polite but didn want to be I wanted to say try being a prisoner in your home I can't walk see if he ride a bike bet he would

Infrastructure does not support the e-bikes it’s too new. Skateboards were a problem at one time they made skate parks. People that ski did not like snowboarders they worked out. Same here it’s new it’s taking off. And the same government that is saying we all need to go green is now wanting to ban it unless they can tax you for it.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. You said at all when your last sentence. That part about taxing us for it. I am just hoping we can leave some of these bikes as they are with the same rights as regular bicycles. Because some of them are just that regular bicycles with a small amount of assistance.

@DADDY_DIGI_HOBBIES

4 ай бұрын

First off the reality is that the people banning low speed electric assistance bikes are ignorant, But a significant % of e bikes are motorcycles. We have had motorcycles longer than cars. Motorcycles have restrictions. So why are we electric motorcycles differently than electric cars? treating traditional bikes like motorcycles by limiting speed is also unfair.

@ricciottimolfese3500

4 ай бұрын

Could just go back to streets covered in horse shit.

@livenhfree

4 ай бұрын

I don't think it's a tax issue. I think it's a safety issue.

@splashpit

4 ай бұрын

@@livenhfreereally , people riding motorbikes around with nothing but a bandanna protecting their head and people have safety issues with an assisted bicycle

The problem with the bans is that people bought these items in good faith when they were legal !

@southernebiking

4 ай бұрын

You are exactly right. I wonder how well they could use grandfathered in clause. Thanks for watching.

@psalwasser

Ай бұрын

the problem lies with the nanny state, not the purchaser. home of the free?

@Highways6

15 күн бұрын

Kinda like guns😂

I ride a regular mountain bike..the biggest problems to me are the incompetent motorized vehicle owners,modified ebike owners and the occasional dog that is not leashed

@southernebiking

Ай бұрын

Thank you for watching and thank you for your support. I have no problem with what they do to modified ebikes. I do care about what they do to the ebikes, that have already been defined as the same rights as regular bicycles. Just an FYI, we will be doing another update on this. But this week this town has made an ordinance that makes this ban permanent. I will be doing an update as soon as I can Find a verbiage of their so called ordnance

It's always the reckless ruining it for all. My knees hurt way too much so I stopped riding my bike but with my ebike, I am free again. What about the people flying on the trails on regular bikes with lots of blind corners?

@southernebiking

2 ай бұрын

I agree 100%. And thanks for watching James. I get past more by road cyclist that never give a warning then I ever do from the bikers. I am also doing an update on this. I believe it’s going to be coming out next Monday. Again, thanks for watching.

Unfortunately there’s always going to be people pushing the limits. I go fast, but not near pedestrians or slower traffic.

I started mountain biking back in the mid 80's. Since then I've watched mountain bikes go from being ignored in the beginning to being banned in a lot of places and now back to being ignored. Ebikes have been around long enough that they've attracted the attention of the haters. The new shiny thing to be angry at. Eventually they'll just be ignored again as their popularity and numbers increase. The real ISSUE here is REGULATIONS on everything all the time. Too much government involvement in every aspect of our lives.

Throttles have nothing to do with safety. On a Class 2 ebike, the throttle can push the bike to 20 mph and no more. On an acoustic bike, I peddle to 25mph easily. And most of the time I go 20mph. Problem is that the police are not even enforcing hemets for kids. They don’t enforce laws that keep kids from riding double and even triple. They don’t enforce the laws that keep people from riding in the wrong direction. They don’t enforce the age limits on underage riding. A 10 year old should not be on an e-bike. So of course the answer is to ban all ebikes instead of enforcing the laws they do have.

@southernebiking

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. We have seen this happen before in other areas. Nobody’s following the law so let’s put out another one and surely they will follow this one. Seems to be the mentality that comes out of our politicians anymore. Most, if they ever knew, have long forgotten that they work for we the people. They are supposed to be our servants, not our masters. By the same token, most people have forgotten that they need to let their politicians know what we expect from them. How can a servant serve when no one is telling them what they need to do. I would like to say because of all this they just do the best they can. But I think more accurate would be because of this. They do what’s best for themselves. Again thanks for watching. Enjoy your day.

I learned it happened when it was dark, this is a knee-jerk reaction by this mayor, what if the boy had been on a normal bike? It says nothing about how fast he was going. What they need to do is keep those under a certain age from riding these e bikes. When i was 12, I wanted to go faster, but my bike or legs would not allow it. Now they can. Dangerous that they can do so by twisting a throttle.

@donvee2000

5 ай бұрын

Exactly... because 60 yr olds vote, 12 yr olds do not.

Politicians need to have their job description explained to them They seem to be quite confused on what their job is.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

You are quite correct, Dennis. I also think a lot of us Citizens have not set the expectations for our politicians. Make sure you let them know what you expect of them. Thanks so much for watching. Let them hear your voice and encourage others to do the same. Have a great day.

@cryptiedan

5 ай бұрын

​@@southernebikingthey won't listen, unfortunately. Politicians are just in it for themselves. If citizens came in full force regarding letting politicians understand how class 1, 2, 3 work it would takes years.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

@@cryptiedan you are correct. But they are not going to change this on their own. Quite frankly, only way it’s going to change is if we change it.

@mikepalmer2219

5 ай бұрын

They know exactly what it is. All governments exist to grab power and become bigger and more oppressive. It is the antithesis to liberty. And people will still be ok with the government getting bigger and bigger.

@richdavenport7751

5 ай бұрын

It's not a free country anymore

Some of these knee jerk rulings are going to be temporary because the traffic patterns would benefit, the environment would benefit, the economy would benefit. And reversals are already happening in the UK lifting Wattage restrictions and throttle restrictions because that didn’t make functional sense. America will follow in a few years, and realize e bikes need to keep up with traffic on urban streets for safety for drivers and e bikers.

@southernebiking

4 ай бұрын

Agreed. Thanks for watching. Enjoy your day.

I pull up in a legal AMG that goes 216mph, roll down my window, and roll down window and say to the ebike riders next to me and say:" So their banning ebikes that go 35mp huh?

I'm disabled and I use my feedback bike to get everywhere. So how's that fair to me

@rustypotatos

4 ай бұрын

Keep using it man

@brenthoward2036

4 ай бұрын

I support your use

@erich.4305

4 ай бұрын

exceptions can always be made just like folks with disabilities can get special parking permits.

@herberthall8082

4 ай бұрын

The question is not fairness but safety. It's tough to be disabled, so I am sure you would not want somebody else to be disabled by being hit by an ebike.

@user-xn4bj5pb5j

3 ай бұрын

So are we going to ban cars because someone was hit or disabled in a car accident?​@herberthall8082

How about bike path speed limits for all bikes. I have had encounters with regular bike rides going 30 mph on sidewalks.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

I have had the same encounters Jeffrey. The message I am trying to get out to folks right now is to let city leaders and lawmakers know that there are many different types of E bikes out there. If you notice, most of the time they all get lumped together as one. Maybe if we could educate our public servant, they would start distinguishing between different types of the bikes. Thank you much for watching. We do appreciate it.

@ohwell2790

5 ай бұрын

E-Bikes do not belong on side walks, period.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

@@ohwell2790 well that is as well thought out as car driver saying bicycles do not belong on the road period. Do regular bicycles belong on the sidewalk?

@jeffreyerwin3665

5 ай бұрын

@@ohwell2790 Hey, if the 45 mph road has lots of traffic but no shoulder, I am going to ride my e-bike on the sidewalk --- at a slow speed, of course, and pedestrians will get the right-of-way.

@chalkyblack7582

4 ай бұрын

They was probably going 15mph I highly doubt 30

More asinine laws! So if that kid hit the 60-year-old on a regular bike, would they be banning regular bikes? I remember when I was his age I could pedal 30 mph and there was no such thing as an e-bike.

@southernebiking

3 ай бұрын

Exactly correct. Thank you very much for watching. This is just a knee-jerk Reaction from a bunch of Old folks that don't like kids anymore. If it was not this, it would be something else. But they saw this as an opportunity. By the way, they just extended the ban for another 60 days this week. I wish I lived closer because I would ride my bike down the road. And let Em ticket me and then take it. To court and have this whole ordinance thrown out

@LouDeVere

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. I find all road bikes - just ordinary push bikes - are faster than me on my momentum ebike limited to 25km/Hr. I guess they're aiming more at the non-pedal ebikes which can be derestricted to travel above the mandated speed.

Sounds to me like a misunderstanding of what e-bikes are. They assist pedaling, they don't replace it. You have to pedal an e-bike to get it going, and keep pedaling. The "e" in e-bikes just means it's a little easier. Here in Norway, at least, there is a 25 kmp maximum assist - after that the assist stops. Bikes and scooters that move entirely on their own using electric power are different. I can understand wanting to ban them from paths where typically people walk and bike in places where there are users who bike way too fast and don't show consideration for pedestrians. But e-bikes (the e-assist kind) should be allowed in all places where regular bikes are allowed. There are no real grounds for making a distinction.

@southernebiking

4 ай бұрын

You got it and thanks for watching.

@LouDeVere

3 ай бұрын

Agreed. Perfect sense to me.

This is as much an infrastructure problem as it is a regulation problem. There needs to be a separation between cars, bikes or ebikes, and pedestrians. Riding on a "bike path " that is full of pedestrians acting like squirrels on the path is dangerous. Its really a multiuser path. Passing a pedestrian at 15mph that is not situation aware is dangerous. Placing that same bike on the roadway that has no shoulder where cars are going 30 mph is bad too. There needs to be separate infrastructure for bikes!

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for the very well thought out comment Robert. I would agree it is infrastructure and enforcement. My whole reason for this video is to let people know they need to have their voice heard as politicians do not seem to see any difference in any e-bike. There is a wide spectrum of them. On one end just a small amount of assistance and on the other end they are built to be throttled around. But I agree with everything you said here as well. Thanks for watching.

@GaJa-ma748c3

4 ай бұрын

Cities can't seem to have sidewalks, if they do it twists at the corners.

@livenhfree

4 ай бұрын

Bicycles (IMO) do not belong on "bike" paths. A misnomer if there ever was one. And certainly not eBikes. Too many people to dodge, folks walking pets, runners, etc. I'm a bike enthusiast. Bicycles belong on the road, obeying traffic laws. I've never had a problem because I behave like a car, respect traffic signals, and always make eye contact with other drivers. If we do these things, we can coexist peacefully. Anyway, eBikes are a new class of vehicle. The law needs to catch up.

@johnstack5008

2 ай бұрын

@@livenhfree be careful driving on the road. Lots of drivers out there with their heads buried in their phones or fiddling with car electronics.

@livenhfree

2 ай бұрын

@@johnstack5008 Very true, and I think moreso with car tech. I just got a brand new vehicle and the distractions are worse than the phones.

If a Bans occurs it should make a clarification between bikes with and without pedal assist. Those with pedal assist should be legal.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

I certainly agree with your market. However, most of these city leaders and lawmakers have no idea there is a difference. That’s why we need to educate them. You noticed every single one of the articles I quoted, all said ebikes. Never did acknowledge the different classes. Thanks for watching.

@jdgoesham5381

5 ай бұрын

I'd not even follow it and take it to a higher court. They've PUSHED electric vehicles on us and scared us into electric everything and now after we buy 1k-5k dollar ebikes to get around and this happens over one incident? When cars do this every day it seems like discrimination.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

@@jdgoesham5381 but I would much rather head this off before taking it to court. We do have experience in a very high court and it is a long tedious battle. Especially when you're going up against something like a state or federal. Yes you can win, yes we did, but I would sure rather not go through that again. Thanks for watching. Make your voice heard now to the politicians instead of later to a judge.

@Mikle.Bikle18

4 ай бұрын

How about just sticking to safe or unsafe riding laws: speed, recklessness , traffic infractions and other sensible policies?

@kevintraynor4508

4 ай бұрын

Totally agree with this

The throttle is a good thing for me, when I need to get across an intersection or just start out before peddling. Don't regulate throttles. I don't use very much, but they are so helpful for this 71 year old e-Biker!!

@southernebiking

Ай бұрын

Thank you for watching steve. I would argue that you should be able to maintain your throttle. But I also must admit that the other side does have a good argument for electric assisted bicycles not to have them. Other than that, they have no argument against already defined. Class 1, 2 or 3 ebike.

Don't not comply with any restrictions of our right to travel.

Yeah, it's really the Surrons making all the trouble plus people not obeying the rules of the road. A Surron at 45 mph running stops signs on a sidewalk is a problem. Banning my 5 to 8 mph e-assist trike on a multi use path is a lesson in overreaching governmental authorities.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

You are 100% correct. And thank you very much for watching. The problem is, our politicians, a.k.a. are servants. Do not know the difference between that 45 mile an hour Sauron. And your 8 mph trike with an electric assisted motor. If we have a child, that knows no better, he will make an awful lot of mistakes. It is our job to educate him. Same with our politicians. I think a lot of our politicians. Forget that they are there to serve us. But I also think a lot of our citizens forget they cannot serve us if we do not tell them what we expect. So let your voice be heard. Again, thanks much for watching.

@tonymckee148

5 ай бұрын

i was hoping one day it would happen just to say i told them so .....and i would love to see their faces now with all there friends .....i just hope the basic ebike laws stay in place and no other laws come my way.....

@MishaDaBear

5 ай бұрын

The dealers should be charged, everything would fall in place.

@BlackWarriorLures

5 ай бұрын

​@@MishaDaBearAnd put even more bike shops out of business?

@billric1945

4 ай бұрын

Watched the jerk on a Surron doing 40+ on sidewalks in Compton California!! It’s on KZread.

In the 1970’s Springfield , Il decided residents needed to plate and register their bikes. 10 speeds were becoming popular and being stolen regularly. I lived in a village bordering the city. Law didn’t apply to us. Law was a failure. Theft stayed up and it was too expensive to enforce. Illinois has a pretty good e and regular bike law. Have to be 16 to ride an ebike. But don’t need a helmet. Or insurance. If your city is more restrictive, complain to your cities leaders.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

Thank you much Gary. And you are exactly right in your last sentence. This is what I am trying to get people to understand. Most of these politicians have forgotten they are our servants. But it’s very easy for them to forget if the citizens forgot as well, and do not have any expectations of them. Thanks for watching.

@wellfleetion

5 ай бұрын

Give me a break. This push is all about the lobbyist for the insurance agencies so we are by law extorted to pay them or be harassed and eventually arrested in the near future as well. The GOPee hard at work.

@huckfin1598

4 ай бұрын

You’re comparing regulations for theft with safety???

@garywillhoit

4 ай бұрын

@@huckfin1598 license plates and registration were done to reduce theft. It failed. How much are they going to spend to enforce safety laws? My town , a state capital, doesn’t even enforce car regulations. Too expensive. We don’t have a helmet law for anyone. We don’t care about safety.

@kokopelli314

4 ай бұрын

They tried bike licenses where I live for a couple of years back in the 1970s. The program was a total failure. Some still have their retro plastic "plates" though 😅

The problem is not the bikes. The problem is young riders with no respect for speed limits, rules or safety. I see this all the time: Kids, often with no helmet, speeding and weaving around other trail users, going randomly on and off the trail as if people are merely obstacles to avoid. And most irresponsible of all, are the parents who buy ebikes for their children, and turn them loose with no training or supervision.

@southernebiking

4 ай бұрын

I would agree. The second problem is that city leaders do not want to take on the responsibility of dealing with the Young riders when it is so much easier to just get rid of the ebikes. Thanks for watching.

I just started looking into ebikes since I lost my license. This banning is bs. We don't ban cars because of a few accidents. I got to get to work and back, and I have a right to survive,.

@southernebiking

Ай бұрын

This is one town so I would not let this scare you yet. But I would also make sure that I spoke with my representation and make sure they are on board with keeping things the way they are with a ebikes right now. Thank you so much for watching and good luck to you, sir.

Class 1: Pedal assist only up to 20 mph. Allowed on all trails, paths, and green lanes. Class 2: same as Class 1. Also has a throttle. Both class 1 and 2 may not be allowed in certain areas due to local city ordinance. Class 3: Peddle assist only (no throttle) up to 28 mph. Helmet required. Only allowed on public roadways and off road areas. Not leagal on any trail, path, or green bike lane. This is the classifications here in California.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

You are correct. I believe this is close to what the classifications are in Florida. However, they did ban all E bikes. My whole purpose for putting this video out is to make sure everyone let your politicians be aware that there is a big difference from one end of the spectrum to the other where these bikes are concerned. If all they hear, is that E bikes, or the problem, then they lump all E bikes in the same category as they make new regulations and ordinances. Thanks so much for watching and make sure that your voice is heard.

This is a scary video for people who are harmlessly riding ebikes. Thankfully I live in a rural town and my town just passed a law to allow 4 wheelers/ Side-by-Sides/ UTV'S in the town streets so I hopefully will never have to deal with these corrupt/ unintelligent/ uninformed politicians. I appreciate your informartive video here for sure. I hope these laws don't get out of control.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

Thank you very much. It sounds as though you live in a town that used to be very common in the United States 40 years ago. Unfortunately, now these towns are not as common. You are 100% correct with the statement of the politicians. Many have forgotten they are there to serve us. Thanks so much for watching.

@robertseaburg67

5 ай бұрын

All is good here, engines,4 wheelers,side by sides, off road vehicles, all allowed to ride on town roads. Of course we still have to obey common traffic laws and rules and use common sense. It's that simple. The freedoms of rural WV. As it should be

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

@@robertseaburg67 must be a small town. Because that’s where common sense still prevails. You get into the bigger areas, I guess they’re so crowded. They have no room for common sense to remain. If you would not have told me, you was in West Virginia, my guess would’ve been Nevada or Wyoming. A lot of the towns out in the very rural areas remain with common sense. Glad to see there’s still some places here in the east that have it. Have a great day.

Thank u for your great perspective sir,I'm 68 years old ,live in Brooklyn NY and have been riding ebikes and electric scooters for the past 14 years way before they became popular,I finally gave up driving cars two years ago and just solely rely on getting Around everywhere with these units,I get from point A to point B wayyyy quicker than any car..I would go crazy if ebikes were banded,pray this never happens.god bless

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

God bless you as well. That is awesome that you have been getting around on these for so long. Make sure that your politicians hear this as well. Remember, they are our servants not our masters. Thank you much for watching.

@wb7370

5 ай бұрын

​@@southernebiking thanks for a response sir,you have words of wisdom,i put in over 15,000 miles a years on these units, i keep 3 in my storage unit and two in the front yard locked sucured(people love to steal these)saved thousands of dollars so far,no gas,insurance,reg,free parking anywere,or broken down car problems,wonderful invention..great day sir..ps..i subsribed and will show this to all my many friends in NY who ride ebikes..

@MishaDaBear

5 ай бұрын

Way cleaner than any Tesla!

@rustyr6404

4 ай бұрын

We too are elderly . Our e-bikes get us where we couldn’t go. Love, love them . High speed of 20mph. I never go that fast.

I worked with a man who was riding his normal bike without a helmet, fell and died. So it is not just e-bikes that could be dangerous. I thought they wanted to shift to eco friendly vehicles?

@southernebiking

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. I need to go after any people that are causing problem. Not the products are using. Enjoy your evening.

No gas, no oil, no license, no registration, no tax, no insurance, no cut for the government...can't have that.

@southernebiking

3 ай бұрын

Bull’s-eye. Thanks for watching. You are completely correct.

Speaking of ebikes and your Neuse River Trail video. We had a fellow cyclist taken down by a ebike on the NRT. The ebike user made an unsafe pass in the middle to overtake another trail user with a line of opposing cyclists. He clipped bars and brought a friend down breaking his collar bone. Physics always wins when dealing with momentum. That 15 pound road bike will always be a no contest against Bowser.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

But the entire point of this video is that there is a wide spectrum of ebikes. My personal E bike weighs 12 pounds more than a mountain bike. There are very light E bikes out there as well. People need to quit throwing a blanket over every E bike out there. I have had road cyclist with her head down for aerodynamics in groups of four and five come past us at almost double our speed while on the Neuse River Trail. That does not mean I get the right to throw a blanket statement over every cyclist about how they’re not paying attention just for aerodynamics. do you see where I’m coming from on this? My wife is a hiker and has had her group have to jump out of the way of regular cyclist. Would it be fair for hikers to throw a blanket statement and say no more cycles allowed? Or I have ridden most of the cycleways in the wake county area. One time, I saw what appeared to be a suron. Quite honestly, that is the only time I have ever saw a bike that appears like it was built to be used with throttle primarily on any other Greenways in that area. I am not saying there are not some bikers out there that are using their throttle. But overall in the over 3000 miles I have traveled on cycleways I have not seen much of an issue like I am hearing some people complain about. And I promise you I could complain about the road cyclist with just as many experiences and facts to back it up. but I would prefer not to throw a blanket over everybody and light it on fire. Thanks for watching.

@livenhfree

4 ай бұрын

Bingo.

My E-bike recumbent has a throttle. Its function is to assist takeoff. If I wanted a bike that I didn't have to pedal, I'd get a motorcycle. I find 20 mph to be fast enough. When encountering someone on a trail, I announce coming and slow way down.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

I feel the exact same way. I can afford a motorcycle. If I want to use a throttle that is what I will get. Thank you much for watching.

@rustyr6404

4 ай бұрын

I wish all riders would ride like you and then we wouldn’t need to worry about our e-bikes being restricted. We are elderly and depend on our bikes to get out and see nature.

I regularly hike & (pedal) bike on a local long distance trail near me and I have had a few concerning encounters with e-bikes. The trail isn't narrow but people do need to be aware of oncoming traffic. In addition, there are several curves - not sharp but there is limited visibility to oncoming traffic. I pedal at about 15 miles per hour on my bike and I am able to keep aware so that I don't surprise anyone. I don't think I would want to go any faster on the parts of the trail where visibility is limited. The encounters that I have had with e-bikes has been with people going a little too fast for those sections of the trail. I think the bikes were at least class 2 as I have seen people "motoring" without pedaling. There haven't been accidents that I am aware of but people do need to watch their speed for the safety of others. I also suspect that the advent of ebikes is allowing people who normally would not bike to "just go" - that IS a good thing, but I don't think those people appreciate the safety aspect of riding at those somewhat fast speeds. Pedal bikes naturally limit them. I would at least like to see some sort of mandatory safety training for ebike owners. I know that would not cure every concern, but I do think most people would be reasonable if they were made aware of the concerns.

@southernebiking

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching and for a well thought out comment. The majority of e-bikers that I see in this area are older individuals or couples out for a leisure ride so I rarely see them going more than about 15 miles an hour. My wife and I stay right about that as an average. My wife is also a regular hiker. Our experience in this area has actually been that more road cyclists are traveling fast then ebikers. I understand that they do have quite a little experience. But they are also riding with her head down for aerodynamics so they do not see far in front of them. They also do not warn people when they pass by as they don't want the weight of a bell on their bike. And do not slow down very often because they do not want to lose the momentum they have build up. I'm not trying to make a case that e-bikers are safer than road bikers. I am just saying, it is an individual thing where people don't necessarily use what used to be called common sense, but is no longer very common. So I think the argument could be made both ways. I very often hear about people going around throttling e-bikes. But I honestly have not seen very much of that. We have traveled well over 3,000 miles in the Mid-Atlantic on mostly bike trails. Maybe this is going on out on the roads, maybe we've just been fortunate that we've not run across much of it. I would agree with you though, education is a good thing for anybody. Well I may need to add in that is good if it's real education. Lol and not propaganda. Again thank you very much for watching and thank you for a well thought out and respectful debate. Way too little of that here on KZread. Enjoy your evening.

I just bought an "electric assist"full-suspenion mtb. It's powerful no doubt. Most people don't understand how fast these go. Especially people who are regular cyclists. Mine is the mid motor that stops when you don't pedal. It only assists you when you pedal. These bike shops dont give you any advice on how to rude these things! They also don't tell you how much maintenance is required for these .. machines basically. I am 60 and the kid in me comes out when i ride my emtb. What a blast.

@southernebiking

18 күн бұрын

@@rob9147 enjoy the ride. Thanks for watching Rob.

I simply make sure that I never speed by people, or surprise people, and I am always polite and friendly. I give right away to anyone and everyone because I am battery powered. Beyond that I do not give a damn about rules! I keep my earbuds in and act like I don't hear people and just keep on riding. E bikes are mainly ridden by older people who feel like they have a newfound lease on life! Leave them alone! All activities come with risks.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

I cannot say anything that you said is wrong. And thank you very much for watching. I’m afraid the statement that you made about leave them alone, will not end up happening though. You know there’s gonna be somebody out there that has a stick where a stick should never be And that’s where the problem starts.

@nobleharbor265

5 ай бұрын

@@markstevens4264Funny thing is, they said the same thing about those new fangled motor-cars ( you’ll scare the horses) And the time horseless carriages arrived at an intersection, at the same time, Or, Got caught a whooping and a-riding, back and forth over the carriage roads, banjos in arm, making a racket that could be heard in the next county. What happened? Traffic lights, Traffic laws, Stop Signs, And the Police & Sheriffs to enforce them. -- Now think if what you said was made law back then… We’d all be riding horses, and the streets would be paved with horse-pucky. 😅😮😅😮😅 😂😉😎

@kenmcclow8963

5 ай бұрын

@@markstevens4264a class 1 e-bike is limited to 20mph without a throttle. Class 2 is 20mph with a throttle. Class 3 is limited to 28 mph without a throttle. Anything else is undefined. Also the limit for motors on bicycles is 750 watts in the US, 500 watts in Canada and 250 watts in Europe. Europe also doesn’t allow throttles. Anything over 750 watts is either a Moped, or a Motorcycle in the US. I only rode on the Mickleson trail once so far and saw one other bicycle, but I thought they had some sort of enforcement since you have to pay to ride on it. On my local trail there is a speed limit of 15 mph, but there is rarely any law enforcement on the trail and unassisted road bikes routinely ride faster, but I’ve only seen motorcycles on the trail twice. Once electric and once gas. Neither group were going over 20mph, but they still shouldn’t have been there

@thomas5495

5 ай бұрын

Part of the problems is not giving a damn about the others rules. Picking and choosing what rules you choose to follow is absolutely a ridiculous statement on your part. Kinda sounds like what I would have said at 12 yrs old.

@user-ke9yk5qp3u

5 ай бұрын

@@thomas5495 as long as I'm not harming or disturbing or jeopardizing the safety of others I really don't care. There are way too many rules that are based on fear and assumptions and they are not practical and they are not fair.

Some of these so-called e bikes don't even come with pedals, but with pegs. And many of them are so awkward to pedal, they force you to just throttle. I predict manufacturers will have to come up with more stealthy type, class 1, no throttle e bikes and the sales will plummet.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

And these are the ones that are going to cause the greatest amount of problem. It’s kind of a gray area on these ones that are not really built to paddle but they’re only going to 20, that’s a class three. That’s why I actually do like your idea of if it has a throttle it is no longer an E bike. Just think it’s a little bit too late for that to come in the place though. Thanks for watching Pedro.

@kenmcclow8963

5 ай бұрын

@@southernebikingif something doesn’t have pedals it’s not a bike. It’s a motorcycle. The gray area is two wheel vehicles with more than 750 watt motors that do have pedals to avoid registering as a motorcycle and insurance. Then additionally not having turn signals and things to be road legal. I don’t know what regulations are for mopeds, but these seem to fit in that category. I did build a trike that has a 750 watt motor and can throttle to 28mph which is not in any defined class. I usually am pedaling around 10 mph and only use the throttle to get across streets. The trike I ride the most has a 500 watt motor and only delivers 50% output to the throttle, so the motor can assist to 20mph, but the throttle only goes to 10mph. I initially didn’t have the throttle but added it later after I had an incident where I couldn’t pedal and was in the woods with a lot of mosquitoes that could suddenly keep up with me. Throttles aren’t allowed in Europe at all, but people add them discretely.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

@@kenmcclow8963 I cannot disagree with anything that you have said here. My biggest concern is that gray area that you speak about. And my concern stems from the fact that these towns will place restrictions on e-bikes because of the ones that are in the gray area. Notice the town down in Florida banned e-bikes, not just undefined e-bikes. So my push is to have people educate these politicians so that they know there is a difference in a wide spectrum of e-bikes. Thanks much.

I know hundreds of guys who still ride e bikes... you buy it , you take the risk just like cars, trucks or anything.... I know a few cops that still are riding e bikes in Florida... they told me they ride em pretty much anywhere... one cop said he will ride reguardless... interesting

@southernebiking

2 ай бұрын

This is only the one town in Florida doing this. I’ve spoken to their PD and they say they were giving out $250 fines for the first offense. I wish I lived closer than 600 miles or I would be there because they have also said they are not allowed on public roads. I am sure that is in violation of law and overreach of their so-called authority. Thanks for watching.

They mad they aren’t stealing from these pockets too. Do your thing, keep riding

@southernebiking

4 ай бұрын

Thank you. You are one hundred percent right. thanks for watching

I'm old and sometimes I bite off more then I can chew. So on the way back my knee will start to lock up. Without the throttle I wouldn't be able to get back.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

I hear you. And the classifications right now, you can have that throttle. I am not against a throttle, nor am I for one. What I am for, is placing a line in the sand, so that when the regulations come down because of some of these ultra high power and high speed ebikes. It does not come down on those that are not riding them. Thanks for watching, God bless and I hope your knee continues to do better.

@shredmas

5 ай бұрын

@@southernebiking I own of three so-called high-powered e-bikes. We call them by their proper name electric dirt bikes. And we haul them every week in the back of a pickup or on a trailer to a designated OHV staging area. And that is the problem in a nutshell these kids that buy them do not have the interest or the vehicles to haul them out to the staging area so what they do is they ride up and down the street on bike lanes and on bike paths wheeling and basically being hooligans. And that my friend ruins it for the rest of us. As is often said the few spoil it for the many

@thelakeman5207

5 ай бұрын

@@shredmas Street takeovers are bad publicity for dirt bikes and 4 wheel ATV's.

And who is gonna enforce the regulations? The cops? I doubt it, I hear and see cars with no muffler, no cat and straight pipes, loud as hell, driving down the street and no one stops or tickets them.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching Pedro. Honestly it’s not important who is going to enforce it. The point I’m trying to make is that these lawmakers need to understand There is a difference in these bikes. At some point they’re gonna make it tough enough on these fast ones that it will be able to be enforced. I wanna make sure those regulations don’t come on us.

@skygirl341

5 ай бұрын

in Florida? lol thay will over enforce it florida

@MishaDaBear

5 ай бұрын

The seller!

@malanalan1

4 ай бұрын

This goes to show that local governments are full of morons.

Trouble is, we have idiots (some of them are posting their unsafe riding habits on youtube) that think they should be let do whatever the e-bike will allow them to do! On top of calling our politicians, we should be shaming the risk taking idiots.

@southernebiking

16 күн бұрын

@@ecocentrichomestead6783 that is actually a great point and a great idea. Thank you for this.

So how about putting limiters on cars at 75 mph since your not supposed to drive faster than that on any road? Yeah no body wants that just bikes that are pretty much harmless compared to a two ton metal box.

@southernebiking

26 күн бұрын

Thank you for watching. The only flaw in your plan is that your idea would make sense. No politician would be interested in something like that. Lol again thanks for watching.

Not baned in Iowa and no way they could ever enforce the ban. Not even sure how any community or state could push a ban through so fast.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

This was done by the mayor. Most communities, he does have the power to Anak what they call an emergency ordinance. It is typically limited to 60 days and then that 60 days they try and make something more permanent. I understand everybody is saying it cannot be enforced. But it actually can. I will go back to 1988 when they ban the sale of all three wheelers in United States. Guess what, it was enforced. Thank you much for watching. Best advice I could give would be to tell your elected officials how you feel about this.

@itmaslanka

4 ай бұрын

How about you have to be 17 years old and be a class 1 not over 22 miles per hour. Ocean City doesn’t even allow alcohol sales in their city ! But keeping e bikes off a crowded boardwalk even though bike are only allowed 6-10 am is still a good idea !

@autojohn-pu1vf

4 ай бұрын

@@southernebiking I live where they make up laws and call them 'city ordenaces'.. When my licence was revoked I got a DWR and thrown in jail going to work on 49cc scooter 'motorized bicycle' in Independence Mo..... No beef about the clasification, or cc's or brake hp of scooter but in order to ride one on street you must have valid license. So now I go everywhere ebikes (got 4) and worry about what these cops will do, I got my DL back but the cops around here still hate me and RARELY return impounded items

@johnwebsterification

4 ай бұрын

If they ban ebikes I'll just pay the tickets. Still cheaper than a new car, it's cheaper than insurance... Hell it's cheaper than gas!

Thanks again for talking about this subjects. let me know what you find out about that group, thanks for the mention.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

We will definitely let everybody know what we find out on this advocacy group. Thanks for watching.

Liability insurance should be required regardless. Other countries in central Europe, you have home insurance, liability for bikes is included within it, to the tune of more than a million dollars. And that home insurance costs a mere 300 dollars per year. There's always a risk you could be involved in an accident, be it on an acoustic, or an electric, and the worst thing is you kill someone unintentionally and aren't covered for liability... or you yourself get killed or seriously injured and can't afford to survive during recovery. Then there's theft, fire risk etc. Ebikes are expensive, and definitely should be insured!

@southernebiking

3 ай бұрын

I would agree they should be insured. I would disagree that it should be mandated that they are insured. The majority of the states here in the US have declared that class one class two and class three ebikes have the same rights and responsibilities as regular bicycles. That is where the problem comes in. It is becoming a majority of the E bikes out there that are really undefined. I have spoken about this over a year ago and advocated that they are called something else besides an E bike. Yet, here we sit. What can be done, and I would not disagree with it. Would be to not allow these undefined ebikes in areas that regular bikes are allowed. Thank you for watching. And thank you for a well thought out comment. While we may not completely agree, I believe we could have a productive conversation. Probably meet somewhere in the middle. Enjoy your day.

When E bikes first came out they were more of an electric assist bike. Today E-bikes go 40 mph and weigh as much as 150 lbs. The solution may be to make the electric motor cut out at 15 mph making them more compatible with pedal bikes on the bike trails.

@southernebiking

Ай бұрын

Thank you for watching Gary. This is why you hear me saying class one class two and class three Ebikes. I advocated over a year ago that anything outside of that classification should be named something different or this would happen. And here we are. We could maybe have a debate about the speed as I see road cyclist Going much faster than the speed limit on the trails. But I would be in favor of anything that is not one of the defined classes of ebike is not allowed on bicycle trails. I think beyond that, some enforcement of the speed limit should be in place. I get passed much more often by road cyclist than I ever have ebikes. Again, thanks for watching.

My city actually promotes E biking. They have these banks of rentable E bikes all over town. So they’re making money off of it. You know what they say - follow the money. But there’s also this environmentalism/sustainability mindset that permeates everything where live… they view cycling as a way to get more people out of cars… 🤷‍♂️

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching Scott. The bad rap is coming from these mics getting faster and faster. Most cities will not promote this if they’ve got kids out, riding down the road on bikes that are capable of 40 or 50 mph. My big issue is that when they call for a band it is for all E bikes.

@Mark-qv4bn

5 ай бұрын

The first year I bought an ebike, it kept 700 miles off my truck. My county in Northern Arizona, considers all ebikes bicycles. It'll never happen in my small town.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

@@Doc.Holiday I agree that is a big issue. But because we know not, everyone is going to take on responsibility. Another issue is that the city leaders do not understand the difference in some of these bikes. Some of them are basically bicycle with an existing motor. Some of them are also basically an electric motorcycle with pedals. I really have no problem with any of them. But I will say if the politicians knew there were a difference between them, a large chunk of E bikers would be left alone when these rules come down. I happen to ride what is more of a bicycle. I would be more than happy to fight for everyone’s rights to ride an electric motorcycle if I did not have to fight for myself.

@thomas5495

5 ай бұрын

@@Doc.Holiday Absolutely agree. Common sense is so un common these days it should be considered a super power. Where's a persons self control these days. No accountability for ones own actions is why where in this situation now.

@carolmaplesden916

5 ай бұрын

​@@Mark-qv4bn I'm here in Chandler and I ride my ebike in the bike lane I mostly feel safe but I do get hurrased

Fun fact there is a lot more car crashes and yet no extreme laws involving banning them

@southernebiking

Ай бұрын

Thank you one hundred percent correct

When I see ebikes exceeding 35 mph on a path that parallels an industrial arterial in Seattle (with speed limit 35), it's clear something has to change. Our "multi-use paths" , typically 8 to 12 feet wide, are not designed for opposite-direction traffic streams separated only by a 4-inch yellow line, or often no line at all. There's less separation than between cars on a road, and bikes tend to wobble, and don't provide the steel cage protection in a collision. Pedestrians are happy to wear headphones and wander side to side so cyclists need to warn them but can't warn them. An 80-year old lady was knocked over, hit her head on the asphalt, and killed on a path in my metropolis by an adult cyclist (not on an ebike) about 8 years ago and the city promptly lowered the speed limit to 10 mph. I don't know if she turned at 90 degrees to the traffic stream, or it was the cyclist's fault. Really, the engineering community and politicians for the most part treat bikes as toys, and money is always tight, so pedestrians and bike riders are combined on the same roadway. They shouldn't be. Seattle's fifty-year-old Burke Gilman Trail (the original bike trail in Seattle) has been essentially unusable for cycling transportation much of the day for the past 30 years due to lackadaisical attitudes on the part of peds and parents with kids and pets as well as the volumes of users. Cyclists should be on a roadway either by themselves or with cars. Pedestrian-only infrastructure is needed in urban areas. Cyclist-only infrastructure should not have opposing traffic streams, and needs adequate shy distance from posts, fire hydrants, etc. And for the love of God, get rid of those bollard pipes in the middle of the trail that are supposedly there to keep cars off the trails. Sign it properly NO MOTOR VEHICLES and cyclists will keep the cars under control with cell phone reports, etc.

@southernebiking

4 ай бұрын

I guess things are just different on the entire mid-atlantic. I have never seen anybody doing 35 on a bike path. I rarely see anybody on ebikes that are built like the small motorcycles. When I say rarely I have seen one of these in over 3000 miles of traveling bike paths throughout the entire mid-atlantic. What I see more than anything is older couples. Or individuals out for a leisure ride. Typically traveling about 15 miles per hour. I do see quite a few road. Cyclists coming past us very often. Anyway, thanks for watching and enjoy your evening I. 'm not sure what the solution is. But it is certainly not banning

Kind of incredible that EVs will be mandated but E bikes and scooters get banned.

@southernebiking

4 ай бұрын

Little ironic huh thanks for watching ben

They should ban cars from the mall shopping centre.My wife and i crawl like a snail for pedestrians while people race around.

The only reason regulations will change here is because of people on stand-on scooters that don't have a care in their little minds for other pedestrians, as they zip down footpaths at high speed. There should be a group of people in every city that go after people on e-scooters that ride too fast and without even thinking of others around them, the're ruining it for everyone else that ride safely. My bike does around 35mph but I think I'm pretty safe as I stick to bike lanes and usually ride it off-road if I can, but it's cheaper than owning and fueling a car which is great for me.

@southernebiking

2 ай бұрын

This is why they need to be going after the people not the product. They only do that because it’s easier. We have to remember to hold our public servants accountable and make them actually do a job instead of sit around and taking the easy route. Thanks for watching.

My wife and I are in our 50s. We used to ride regular bikes a lot but as we got older we decided to get e-bikes so that we can go further to explore. We enjoyed the ebike a lot as we don't have to worry about going too far and not being able to make it home. We usually end up with 60 - 70% battery even if we go 50 miles away from home. We primarily use it to assist when going up really steep hills. While on the bike trail last week there was a family on their fat tire ebike that was riding really recklessly on the trail passing other bikers dangerously and going very fast. On top of that none of them were wearing helmet. When I saw that I turned to my wife and told her that these are the folks that will eventually cause ebikes to be banned on bike trail. The video mentions about going away with the trottle, to me, the trottle is what sold me on an ebike. The trail that we ride on has quite a few stop signs and quite a few of them are at the bottom of the hill where the trail meet one of the small road. The trottle is a god send in areas like these. Just like those practising the 2nd amendment, just be responsible, don't ruin it for others.

@southernebiking

2 ай бұрын

Thanks much for watching. I will be doing an update on this that will go on monday. I agree with everything you said, especially the last few sentences. Make no mistake. I do not want to see the throttle be taken away, But I think people against the ebikes do have a good debate with that. You had mentioned about several to come by you irresponsibly, But think of how many you have encountered out on the trail, just like yourself and your wife and myself and my wife that are being responsible. The sad truth, she is many. Don't even recognize that the responsible ones are on. E bikes and I think ebikes are the only thing that are being irresponsible. I am also going to do a video trying to address that and brainstorm some ideas, so that the general public gets a better idea that there are very responsible ebikes out there. I fear with some people. It will be like trying to convince them that guns are not bad. But maybe some will understand. Again. Thanks for watching and enjoy the rest of your weekend.

I heard she wasn't wearing a helmet and die. It's like not wearing a seat belt while driving and die. I don't know what their problem is. In my opinion, their just stereo type.

@southernebiking

2 ай бұрын

That is correct. They did not address that at all, as a matter of fact, as you will see him one of my other videos about this. When someone brought this fact out, they were booed out of their city meeting. They had the police escort them out. They’re not looking for facts, just something to use as a weapon. Thanks for watching.

Seriously...... Governments really need to phoque off and let us fend for ourselves and be responsible for our own actions. I'd be willing to bet the woman's own negligence in failing to wear a helmet was a major contributing factor to her injuries causing death. Yes the ebike rider could be wholely at fault for the crash ultimately causing her death but I'd bet dollars to donuts a helmet would have saved her life. These knee-jerk responses to any incident is just a response to do something, anything to say "we responded, look what we did to make you safer."

@southernebiking

3 ай бұрын

I would agree. Not only that, but when someone pointed out the fact in their meeting that she was not wearing a helmet. They were booed and escorted out by the police department. They used the excuse that her time was used up, but she was consistently interrupted during her time, and they allowed others to speak of how great this woman was how bad ebikes are plenty of time. Thanks for watching.

Smokey the bear says to prevent forest fires 🔥🥵. We must ban all matches and lighters, to only fire fighters. That makes about as much sense as banning E bikes and or guns. I believe there should be better road rules and local training for road driving and town courtesy and riding practices. Education is always key restriction never works.

@southernebiking

3 ай бұрын

100%. Thank you for watching. And thanks for the comment. You are correct.

E-Bikes are protected by law in Florida (The Free State) No permits, or licences are required. In Florida Ebikes can legally use trails where other motorized vehicles are not allowed. The only exception is if there is a sign posted in any jurisdiction stating No Ebikes allowed.

@southernebiking

12 күн бұрын

@@gsp49 thanks for watching. They are trying to change that law in Florida right now. They have actually banned them in this town.

@gsp49

12 күн бұрын

@@southernebiking why I don't like democrats.

@gsp49

11 күн бұрын

@@southernebiking but Florida is a red state, and it's the democrats who try to control, regulate, and have power over the people so if they are indeed trying to repeal it, I doubt anything will come of it.

Well unlike countries in Europe where there is a blanket ban on legal ebike motors of 250 watts, the US allows just about any power. Just watched yesterday a KZreadr on a 2800watt escooter travelling at 60 mph . So having no restrictions on power output, speed, no need to pedal, it is not surprising at all. Maybe if the US adopt the same laws as Europe then a ban is a good idea.

@southernebiking

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching. I would have no problem in the United States not allowing undefined, E bikes that are going 60 miles an hour on bike paths. I do have a problem with the fact that they have already determined What is a class one a class two and a class three, and they have determined in the majority of states That some of all of these classes should be treated the exact same as a regular bicycle. I advocated over a year ago, that these foster bikes, and more powerful bikes be called something different. Maybe eCycle or something along those lines, or this would be this case and here we are. So, rather than adopting somebody else’s laws, we should just work on what we have already set in place here. You are correct. There are some very fast and powerful E bikes out there. But what this town has done is lumped all E bikes into the same category. That would be the 250 W ebikes just the same as the 60 and 70 mph ebikes. This is what I am fighting against. I want you to know, I very much appreciate you putting a crossed your opinion in a respectful way. We may not completely agree with each other. But I believe we could sit down and meet in the middle somewhere. Again thank you for watching. Enjoy your weekend friend.

In the USA, ebikes can travel alot faster than in the UK and Europe which is dangerous on shared paths. In the UK you are limited to motor assistance upto 15.5 mph and a 250W motor. You can get more powerful motors but it becomes classed as a scooter , not allowed on cycle paths and requires a licence , insurance etc. On top of the above, there are quite a few videos on youtube in america of thrill seeking youngsters riding wrecklessly on insanely powerful ebikes which are really e motorbikes, putting pedals on them to fool the police, hitting speeds of around 50mph. An ebike can weigh alot, especially when you add the weight of the rider which will be lethal if hits anyone at speed, a helmet wont help much on who they hit, especially a fragile old woman. I use a motor to help me up hills, not to travel fast, for that I have to use my legs above 15.5 mph where assistance cuts off in the UK.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

You are exactly right. And thank you much for watching. If they want to act like that, on their bikes, I really don’t care. What I do care about is because they are acting like this. On their bikes the regulations are going to come in and hit me as well. so my whole deal is keep the class one and class two and maybe even class three ebikes left alone, and as bicycles here in the United States with the same regulations, and the same responsibilities in the same rights as regular bicycles. These other ones, they can do what they want with those. That’s up to the people that are riding them to fight that fight. thank you much for watching. We certainly do appreciate it. While I do like the bikes to go up to a 20 mile an hour. I would much prefer to be limited to a class one bike, which is 16 mph then have all of them have to be registered insured, etc. Again thank you much for watching.

@garyseckel295

5 ай бұрын

Totally agree! Class 1only Class to remain a "bicycle!" @@southernebiking

Their trying to force everyone into electric cars. But they have a problem with Ebikes?

@gatesurfer

4 ай бұрын

You have to be 16 and have a license to drive a car of any kind. And you can’t drive a car on park trails like the one in this video.

Yikes! I live in Australia and not heard anything like this here, thank goodness. But as a mid-60s female who rides an e-bike, I would not like them banned based on accidents (even serious ones) like this one.

I'm Dutch so come from possibly the best and safest cycling culture. I now live in England where even in the areas considered best for cycling, it's nothing like literally even the worst bits in the Netherlands. In NL we have a huge issue with what we call "fatbikes". People try to pass them of as "electric bicycle" but many go (well) over the speed limit for that category (25 km/h), and some if not most have a throttle so you don't have to pedal yourself (which also makes it not an electric bicycle). There's no minimum age for electric bicycles in NL. But these fatbikes are in reality really a speed pedelec or electric moped, and there's lots of restrictions on that: must be 16 or older, must have a moped driving licence, must wear a helmet, must wear a number plate, must be insured. But the country isn't enforcing this enough. There's so many kids riding these things, and Dutch cycling culture doesn't include a helmet unless you're cycling for sports for which you'd use a road bicycle and usually go out with others and only if you're quite fit. No way that a 13 year old should be allowed to operate a vehicle in public that can go 50 or even 70 km/h (they're all juiced up). They are not mature enough to understand the risk. No one riding such a vehicle wears a helmet. At a young age they don't have enough experience in traffic (through years of using a pedal bicycle) to safely drive something so fast. There's accidents with them ALL the time, often injuring other people too. They're often driven on the cycle path where the typical pedal cyclist goes 14 km/h and they'll zip by at 30, 40 or even faster. Unreal, and should either be super enforced or just outright banned simply seizing every vehicle like this that's on the public road. Note that in the case you discuss about the older lady dying: if she's on a pedal bicycle doing 12 km/h or even 17 km/h if she can go that fast, there's no need for a helmet if she's cycling on paved roads (and not dirt roads). No way that she should have to wear a helmet because a stronger road user doesn't obey the law or know how to control their vehicle. As a pedestrian we cross the street all the time but you're not asking all pedestrians to wear a helmet in case a cyclist rides into them.

Pedal assist E-bikes are ok for general use. However, throttle controlled E-bikes should be classified as a motor vehicle. Throttle control bikes should not be allowed on hike, and bike trails nor sidewalks. The person operating this type of bike should be licensed and insured.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

I cannot say I disagree. My main purpose for this video, though. Seems that most people that are city leaders or politicians think all these E bikes are the exact same. I believe the ones that are peddled should be left alone and I do not believe they are going to be. And you are exactly right, there are a lot of bikes out there that may have petals on them, but they were never meant to be used. Thanks for watching.

@carpediemarts705

4 ай бұрын

In my town, no bikes are legal on the sidewalk and I have been threatened with a ticket for riding at walking speed through empty downtown areas. But any bike has both the rights and responsibilities of the road and occasionally Us interstates highways. If a pedal bike is legal on the street, they shouldn't be able to ban sn ebike. They can' certainly give speeding tickets and other traffic citations.

@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188

4 ай бұрын

@@carpediemarts705 In my home Denmark, no bikes are allowed on sidewalks, as those are intended for people walking! But most Danish major towns also have passes for bikes (and small mopeds, to a speed of 30km) in both sides of the road, as those rides much faster than people walking. Finn. Denmark

@Mikle.Bikle18

4 ай бұрын

This thinking makes no sense. It’s like limiting not kicking your horse to signal to move quicker.

@sidoniasknight

4 ай бұрын

The panel assist on e bikes make the bikes go faster not slower the throttle makes the bikes go slower I know it don't make sense but that's how they do e bikes for some reason. I have had an ebike and tried many others and everyone of they was like that.

Very good video. I was thinking about addressing this subject myself. Its a terrible tragedy, but a knee jerk reaction to a problem that could have been prevented with some common sense. Current laws are not enforced, it was dark where they collided, the kid was wearing a helmet the lady was not. My question is, were headlights used? What speeds were involved, what laws are in place that were not enforced already?

@EBikes420

5 ай бұрын

I agree 100%, there are way too many questions that needs to be answered before passing such a law on banning e-bikes. My e-bike is my main source of transportation, I don't drive and the buses get tonnes of cancellations everyday so they are not reliable. I would be screwed big time, because walking hurts my back.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

It is certainly a knee-jerk reaction, Richard. But I think what concerns me more is the fact that they continuously lump all these ebikes together. We need to let these politicians understand that there is a difference. As these bikes are getting faster and faster, there’s gonna come a point where their knee-jerk reaction stays. my goal is to make sure that it does not catch the rest of us. Thanks for watching.

@manoz6194

5 ай бұрын

@@EBikes420 My ebike is my source of income since I use it to do deliveries. If I didn't have an ebike, I would be making less than minimum wage!

About the throttle. They actually make a bike safer. Because you don't have a delay from so to start. That little jolt you get is actually a control risk. Many in the UK wish they could have throttle at stop lights and crossings because it allows them a more controlled start.

@southernebiking

4 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for watching. I tend to agree with you that the throttle’s are not a bad thing. I don’t use one on a light bike. But I would never begrudge someone using theirs at all. I will say it gives people that are against ebikes a little bit of ammunition. other than that, there’s nothing negative about having one. Enjoy your day.

@firehunter4187

4 ай бұрын

@vmobile890 starting is the most dangerous time for any cyclist. Especially in cities, intersections. Getting up to speed is a thing. Main reason such a thing as an idaho stop exists.

They want you to register, so they can text you, know what you're riding, and know where you're located at all times. It's all about control.

Where is the bike trail shown in this video? Thanks.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

This is going to be the Neuse River Trail close to Raleigh North Carolina. Thanks for watching Mike.

As a owner of 2 class 1 e-bikes & love it! But riding and seeing non-pedal bikes with throttles, come on those things are motorcycles not bicycles.

@southernebiking

Ай бұрын

I am not trying to make a case that they are bicycles. I am trying to tell the regulators to leave alone the class, one, class two, and class three, which have already been regulated as the same as regular bicycles. I think an argument can be made that throttle should not be allowed on them and I would be OK with that. I very rarely ever use one and have removed it from my custom built bike. But I can see also where it is a huge benefit for some people to use very sparingly when needed on example, steep climbs. Trust me, you will not find me out there advocating for what we used to call Mini bikes with gas motors, but now they just have electric motors, to be allowed on bike trails. I am at a point in my life that if I wanted a motorcycle, I can easily afford one. I will add one more thing. In the thousands of miles we have traveled on primarily bike trails. We have only seen four of the server on type electric dirt bikes. Two of them we’re on the street. The other two were on bike trails. No I don’t think they need to be on bike trails, but let’s enforce that those type of bikes or not they’re not all electric bikes, like mine and yours as well. Thanks for watching.

I have no issues with anyone riding an e-bike on a public road to be required to have insurance. It's a well known problem in some cities that people with e-bikes and scooters are just blasting along and crashing into people's vehicles.

Banning e-bikes sounds a little unconstitutional to me. I thought we were supposed to have the right to travel freely. Interesting.

This is why I do not like kids on grown-up stuff we were doing just fine until kids started to use them

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

A lot of times it’s more than just the kids. I’ve met quite a few children that are well over 18. Thanks much for watching Ben. We do appreciate it.

Reckless e-biking is all too common, especially among younger riders. I would hope that enforcing bike-path speed limits would be the solution instead of banning them, altogether, from the bike paths. This speed limit enforcement should apply to analogue bikes as well as e-bikes.... Speed kills, not batteries.

Thankfully nobody in my small town has ruined it for everyone else yet. When I ride past any of our police officers, they always just wave with a smile. Everything can change but I appreciate living in a small farm town that doesn't pay attention to such petty regulations

@southernebiking

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching Chad. We are fortunate to be in a small town as well. I am not a resident of Florida even but these things do concern me. I was around with the CPSC forced the industry to abandon, three wheel off-road motorcycles. I had a lot of friends that raced them and overnight, it was gone. Hopefully this will not be the case here. But the CPSC is getting involved with this now. I I hope if anybody in your small town tries to ruin it, the address the person not what he is using. Again, thanks for watching.

My opinion would be e-bikes should at least be able to keep up with a fast acoustic pedaling bikes 28 mph. I think the throttle only is a very safe feature when pulling away from red lights or stop signs it keeps you focused on the road instead of trying to get your balance to pedal. Thanks for sharing. :)

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching Mike. Honestly, I’m trying to keep my opinion out of this as far as how fast it should go, power, etc.. I believe because they have already established a class one, class two, and class three. This would be the most logical place to create a separation between defined E-bicycles and E-cycles. I just think that would be a fight possible to win. I also think we need to make sure our politicians are aware of the huge differences from one end of the spectrum to the other of ebikes. It is pretty hard to blame them If all they here is E bikes are the problem and have no knowledge that there are different ebikes. Thanks for watching and make sure your voice is heard.

@bretwaldow5084

5 ай бұрын

In Australia (varies slightly by state) the throttle must cut out above 6km/hr (walking speed). It does the job of getting started and then pedaling is required.

@Lukearthwalker

5 ай бұрын

@@bretwaldow5084 Oh, I like that, makes a lot of sense!

@malanalan1

4 ай бұрын

Acustic bike? WTF? You mean you yell at it and it rides?

@livenhfree

4 ай бұрын

Many people ride their bicycles safely through town and city streets (I'm one of them). And we largely obey traffic laws. If we see other bicyclists behaving badly, we call them out, because they give all of us a bad name.

Enjoy the ride SLOW DOWN.

Our town here in the Midwest replaced hundreds of miles of abandoned railroad track and converted it into paved bike trails. State and county laws prohibits motorized vehicles as gas powered motor cycles, ATVs and cars of any kind onto these trails designed for cycling and pedestrians. It is vague but does allow e bikes that are no more than 750w and operate under the same safety guidelines as any bicycle. It does not state the vehicle must have pedal power, so this would include electric chairs and scooters. Pros for e bikes are they offer a new means for medically impaired to enjoy this outdoor activity as well as motivate those reluctant to venture onto the trails. The cons are the same safety concerns we have with standard bicycles such as protective head gear, speed and following all additional safety and respecting foot traffic. E bikes are demonized because of the method of powering the vehicle. E bikes should be approached from the same safety standards as pedal bikes. They are not mopeds or motorcycles. I agree with a safety standard for batteries but the regulations should be limited to an easy sticker verification from the manufacturer.

The e-bike industry has become perverted, Kids are stopping traffic in big groups, wheelie riding around and through pedestrians, and riding against traffic, not to mention riding on sidewalks at high speed. There are no real rules. I’m an e-bike (Type 2) rider and ride it to work daily.I also ride an 1800cc Touring motorcycle. I understand the rules of the road. Back in the late 70’s and early 80’s Mo-PEDS were popular but you had to have a license to do 15mph on them. I was passed by what I called a Super E-bike which had to be doing more than 50mph on Broadway (Major street), downtown San Diego. No helmet, or safety equipment at all and ignoring all traffic lights. These people will be ushering new laws and regulations because currently the ones in place are vague and not really enforced here. Kids are dying on these because the speeds are comparable to motorcycles and cars with no license or required vehicle equipment lights,helmets,etc… The genie is out of the bottle now and best believe “Big Brother” is going to want to get paid his taxes.

@southernebiking

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching. I would agree. The regulations are on the way. But the new regulations need to be applied to the ebikes that are not classified. And of course, banning is not a solution at all but that is what this town has done. Again, thanks for watching.

@Shawps

2 ай бұрын

@@southernebiking Politians don’t care. They won’t acknowledge one type over another. Somebody’s always lobbying behind the scenes. Your video is very informative and appreciated. Keep up the great work.🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

Greetings from the Netherlands. Over half of the bikes sold here are now e-bikes. There has been an increase of fatal accidents amongst cyclists here recently (see the latest video by BicycleDutch), but most of these involved cyclists being hit by motor vehicles, so the answer seems to be more infrastructure that separates cyclists from drivers. A lot of the fatalities involved e-bikes, and a lot of older people ride e-bikes, so there has been some discussion about how to increase safety, but a ban on e-bikes would be unthinkable, and I can't see helmets ever becoming compulsory either. Most Dutch adults have personal liability insurance, but this isn't particularly related to cycling. I pay about $5 a month for mine, so it isn't prohibitively expensive. And of course a lot of people insure their e-bikes against theft and damage anyway. The government and local municipalities are always looking for ways to increase cycling and reduce motor traffic, so a ban on e-bikes (or making helmets compulsory) would really go against this. They also recognise that the benefits of cycling, not just for the health of individuals but also for the economy and the environment, far outweigh the problems caused by accidents. That's a lovely cycle path you're on, btw. (One last slightly unrelated thing. As a European I find it crazy that any American politician should want to ban e-bikes from a place that is awash with guns, ownership of which is fairly unrestricted and which are actually designed to kill people. Maybe you need a constitutional amendment to say that the right of Americans to ride e-bikes 'shall not be infringed'.)

@southernebiking

4 ай бұрын

Thank you much. Very well thought out comment. We are definitely blessed with our bike trails here in North Carolina. Thanks much for watching. Enjoy your day.

In the free country everything is banned by the occupying regime.

Ebikes were just approved in our city😂 bike riders should be trained just as car drivers are, licensed and insured otherwise we all pay for incidents/injuries caused by them.

Sorry about the woman. I have rode ebike for 3 years and never heard anything like this. Here in Colorado we are careful on any form of bikes. There are some paths with odd-even days for hikers and bikers. For most paths are fairly wide for safety reason. It is more of the rider s responsible on how they ride on the paths.

@southernebiking

2 ай бұрын

I agree 100%. All boils down to common sense. Oops, that’s not very common anymore. Here’s a good one for you, their emergency order stop ebikes from being on public roads. I will be doing an update on this next Monday or Tuesday. Thanks much for watching.

I was a victim of ebike bans in Southern California. A few years ago I built myself en ebike and rode it without problems for a long time. Getting my kid to school in the back, commuting to work 10 miles, returning to pick up my son, buy some groceries etc. I could spend weeks without needing to start my car. The same my other son, who was 13-14 at that time. I bought him a high power and high range ebike and he used it as a means of transport. He could make as much as 40-60 miles per day visiting friends, going to the skatepark, going to adjacent towns to hang out on the pier or have ice cream etc. He made around 8000 miles in one year and made a lot of friends with whom he was able to explore the area. This was our perfect time: no gasoline, no traffic jams, no noise etc. But then, suddenly, cops started enforcing ebike laws and instead of giving warnings or even some low fines ($60 or so) they started impounding the ebikes immediately. You needed to pay around $300 to get your ebike back. Kids were in despair because their daily routine, their friendships got cut abruptly. Many parents, including me, decided to factor in the cost of impound into the ebike usage, assuming no more than one impound every 2 months. So guess what... They raised the price to around $1500. So the kids started driving cars and the fun was gone.

@zztop7000

5 ай бұрын

What about regular bike? Cops also going to STOP you? This is BS no more freedom for us.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

I hear ya. Back in the early 80s I was very heavy into off-road motorcycle racing. This is when the three wheelers started to become popular. In 1988 they banned the sale of all three wheeler’s throughout the United States. The best advice I can give you is make sure That your politicians get to hear you. Remember, they are our servants not our masters. But if we do not communicate with them, it becomes partially our fault. Thank you much for watching.

@GruesomePizza1992

5 ай бұрын

Police just extortion for revenue. Worried about e-bikes instead of the psychos running the govt.

@johnrob3215

5 ай бұрын

What "enforcing ebike laws" are you referring to? What law did you violate to get your bike impounded?

@exmotech

5 ай бұрын

@@johnrob3215 The thing is that in the US ebikes are classified by speed, power and presence of pedals. The limits are so low that they basically convert a legal bike into a toy instead of something that might soon replace a car in warmer climates and short distances. If I were to be legal, my bike would be unusable for the most important thing which is replacing a car. So my bike is bigger, has really a lot of batteries, thick tires etc. I have around 100 miles of range. So I used it for around 3 years to go with my wife to the beach, take my son to school, go shopping etc. I used it not apart from a car but INSTEAD and this is probably a pain in the ass for the government (no registration tax, no fuel tax etc.). So one day I got stopped as I was dropping off my son to school and got a citation for operating a motorcycle because the officer assumed it is one. He immediately told me that if he assumed it's a motorcycle then I would be cited for not having a motorcycle license, cited for not having motorcycle insurance. A total of $1200. I am glad the judge thought that these assumptions are ridiculous and cancelled everything but you see the trend. The good things about ebikes is that they are quiet, don't release fumes and you can ride along the beach and people don't mind, you can go right down to the beach and people don't mind etc. But cops do mind. An alternative to a car is a big no-no because there's no money for the state.

Thanks for sharing. This is more than a rush to judgement of ebikers, which isn't new. Ebikers appear to always be guilty. Unfortunately, anything on 2 wheels, even if they have a gas engine, are considered ebikes by some people. (not suggesting the 12 year old wasn't on an ebike) The fact that a 12 year old was on the bike seems more relevant than the fact that it was an ebike. Not sure why they allow kids under the age to be able to hold a drivers license to have access to an ebike. The news article I just read on this accident stated the community is "fed up" with kids ignoring the rules of the road. The key word in the article was "kids" and "ignoring the rules" -- not what they are riding. I can count on both my and my husbands hands how many times someone on a non-ebike almost crashed into us going faster than they should, or not paying attention -- and this is on rail trails! Agree that we need to start letting our representatives know that ebikes are NOT the issue -- it's the riders who need to be policed.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

You are exactly right. And thanks for watching. Honestly, the problem is the E bikes are the new kid on the block. So they are the easiest to go after. I also want people to make their elected officials aware that there is a huge difference between an electrical assist and bicycle like many of us, ride, and some of these other E bikes that are capable of up to 70 miles an hour. I wanna make sure when they bring down The hammer, it does not come on our head as well. I would say, in addition to the fact that it is not the Ebike, but the people handling it, but there is a big difference in a lot of these E bikes.

@donvee2000

5 ай бұрын

Exactly... Cause money grabbing bans are easier than just having the cops do their jobs and enforce laws.

I ride an electric scooter that goes 19 miles an hour on level ground. I try to stay riding on the sidewalks as much as possible if I know a car is coming up behind me.

@southernebiking

3 ай бұрын

And from just a few sentences that you said. I’m betting if you rode a scooter that went much faster, you still would go at a safe speed. Thanks for watching. Be careful out there and enjoy your day.

I own a car and decided to buy a electric scooter since then I enjoy my rides more. What i noticed since then that we have a major car congestion here in California but enough bike Lanes 😢

@southernebiking

Ай бұрын

Take advantage while you can. Thanks for watching.

Went thru the same crap with drones.

@southernebiking

4 ай бұрын

Let's hope this one has a better outcome. Thanks for watching

It's real easy for non riders to make decisions that affect us all. Ultimately we need to get into local politics and represent at city council and try to prevent these arbitrary rulings as more people get into the sport.

@southernebiking

5 ай бұрын

You are 100% correct. This needs to be done all over and is exactly what I’m trying to say. Thank you thank you.

@petesis7934

5 ай бұрын

It is also real easy for non riders to get out amongst regular riders with their electric scooter bikes. Not a good thing.

If they are going to ban e-bikes they should ban cars considering how many fatalities there are with cars?

@southernebiking

26 күн бұрын

There you go talking that foreign language of making sense to politicians that don’t speak foreign languages. Lol. Thank you much for watching and you are correct.

I have had an ebike for the last 10 years and if I had to categorize mine it would be a Class 2. I live in a rural area where there are no bicycle trails or lanes so I am in traffic every time I go out. Fortunately we have a 3 foot law which they do enforce so that has helped keep us safer. I love the throttle on mine because I can use it when I need it and pedal normally the rest of the time so I can extend my range. I really hope they don't make them illegal here. When I was 18 I had a 10 speed and was riding down a long hill where I reached 45 mph.. I was using a speedometer so I know it was really that fast. Watching how fast the road was going by really scared me because I knew if one thing goes wrong I have very little to protect me so I would be badly injured. Well, a couple of months later I was doing 22 and had a front spoke come loose on the front wheel (my fault I didn't check it before I left on my ride) and landed up getting both elbows, one hand, and one knee badly scraped when I got thrown over the handlebars. about 18 miles from my house so I had to remove the spoke check the rest and ride back home. (This was when I was young, strong and there was no such thing as cellphones.

@southernebiking

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching Donald. I used to bounce a lot better. A few decades back too I don't tend to bounce so well now. Enjoy your evening and enjoy that ebike