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Dyno Test: 2024 Mustang Dark Horse | Why Ford Used a Dual-Throttle Intake & What's the Real Power?
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Nice gains. Can't wait to see some 1/4 mile runs!
$79,000 at my local dealer…a goddamn joke
@gs-pd5ox
20 күн бұрын
No kidding. 83-88 and you're in a nicely equipped M3 competition. Not really sure what ford is thinking.
I'm impressed on the gains with so little effort. I can't wait to see full builds.
@ClickbaitMotorsports
11 ай бұрын
Ford employees are funny. 😂
@DWH300
11 ай бұрын
@@ClickbaitMotorsportsCome on Mickey Mouse Motor Sports. Admit when you're wrong. By the way. Palm Beach Dyno did multiple Dyno pulls and came up with the same 500 horsepower on the Dark Horse. CJ Pony Parts compared the S650 and S550 on an outdoor truck scale. They weighed the same.
@FORTNITEGUY023
10 ай бұрын
Cant even aftermarket tune too 100% so idk
@gorillatrail
10 ай бұрын
@@FORTNITEGUY023thats what i heard too but a complete ecu change ... i cant see how a true tuner wouldnt be able to bypass everything in it
@cesarpalmos8235
10 ай бұрын
@@ClickbaitMotorsports Why?
Nice video with good baseline dyno run and quick, cheap easy mods showing the gains!
So taking carbon traps out and putting high flow air filter on it finally matches Mach 1 WHP at 450. Not bad, still slower with the extra weight.
@Davido50
10 ай бұрын
That's still excellent & these cars will last far longer than most all other sports cars.. w/good basic maintenance . *Full Synthetic oil /Motorcraft filters every 5k mis + 89-93 octane top tier fuel* . I use Shell or ExxonMobil myself.
@Davido50
10 ай бұрын
Low parasitic loss = excellent engineering. Kudos to Ford Motor! 💯
No clue what they changed, but the stock exhaust sounds to be the best I’ve heard so far on a coyote… 👍
I had a Nissan 370Z which had dual throttle bodies. It's very good for twin turbos.
@torreylane2890
10 ай бұрын
I just bought the 2024 GT and I was think twin turbos are the way to go with the dual throttle bodies
Best explanation as to the two throttle bodies to date. 👌🏼
Very cool thanks for sharing
500 x .88 = 440. So 12% drivetrain loss it’s right on advertised fwhp.
@copperkeyracing6167
11 ай бұрын
Most modern cars are underrated to compete with the Germans, which have been underrating their cars for decades. Clearly, even the 2018+ was 500hp when you calculate it properly at 17% rear wheel drive drivetrain loss (425whp/.83=500hp). 14% loss is FWD, 17% loss is RWD, and 20% is AWD. Even more loss with larger heavier wheels, which is anything larger that 17s. People have just been accustomed to expecting much higher numbers than correct, and it's like the new standard... although still underrated/incorrect. Here's an example of underrated and not underrated: Underrated: 2019 Civic Type-R 306hp=>290whp (5% loss... uhh no! It's a 335hp car, not 306hp) Not underrated, Not overrated, correct 2019 Veloster N 275hp=>235whp (14% loss)
@2seep
11 ай бұрын
This is a high reading dyno. They consistently measure 425whp.
@Davido50
10 ай бұрын
That's quite low *parasitic loss* actually from an engineering perspective. Kudos for Ford Motor! That's a very well designed, superb performing vehicle. Can't wait to get my new gen7 '24 Mustang GT 5.0L in few mos. Even new Mustang Ecoboost is improved. Be fun, frugal ultra reliable daily driver sports car. Gen2 - 2.3L GTDI is well proven & quick.
@Davido50
10 ай бұрын
@copperkeyracing6167 Ford Motor achieved very low parasitic losses to rear wheels. That's excellent engineering of components from an engineering perspective. Very impressive!
@Davido50
10 ай бұрын
@GarciaQ60 Mustangs have historically been underrated.. my beloved 04 SVT Cobra terminator (4900 orig mis) stated 390hp from factory yet consistently put out near 420hp (stock) as did all others. Most of us know how well that car responded to any mods! Mine puts out a conservative 500hp+ from only $500 in mods. 💯 I will get a new gen7 '24 Mustang GT 5.0L. New 5.0L is a very impressive modern V8.
Free gains are always awesome. Great video, guys.
Thanks for the good explanation on the dual throttle body carbon traps etc can you send a link of the filters that you guys order and where can I get some also thank you
Project crazy horse There should be no other name love the content man
Great video!! Impressive gains for anyone to do at home. I was hoping that there would be another pull with the air box lids removed, I've seen a couple of videos with gains. Otherwise thanks for the great content Evan!
@revanevan
11 ай бұрын
Much appreciated, thanks.
@darrenmcfeaters6683
11 ай бұрын
Illegal to remove emissions equipment and will have massive air codes after removal.
Ford released the encryption to the ECU/ ECM to Whipple, RTR & Ford Racing. It will take about 6 months to get the solution to the tuners. Be patient!!!
Can you please share with us the exact part number for the K&N filters?
Got me excited! Don’t joke around about adding boost man!! 😂 what a beautiful car. Looking forward to this build.
Nice tests. Thanks!
Thanks for doing this videio. Can you add a link to the filters you used?
love this video, so much great information.
@revanevan
11 ай бұрын
Thank you.
The new GR86/BRZ have a carbon panel filter in the airbox as well. If you remove it, you gain approx. 10whp.
Exciting stuff!! Can't wait to see what it does on the track
I gotta say as someone that owns a 2014 C63 AMG with twin throttle bodies, with the 6.2 in it. It is very responsive. It is stock with 450 horse and 440 ft pounds. Ford did it right with this one for sure. Love my mustang. Have an 82 1/2 GT my parents bought brand new. And NO its not stock 😉
Project Ember Heard!
EVAN, THE TUBE THAT WENT THROUGH THE TUNNEL PORT MOTORS INTAKE RUNNER THAT HOUSED THE PUSHROD. WHEN THEY DID A FLOW TEST ON THEIR HEAD IT WAS NEGLIGIBLE. WITH IT AND WITHOUT IT THE FLOW NUMBERS WERE THE SAME.
Can’t believe Sam bought a blue car. Looks beautiful buddy.
It’s a slightly revamped s550. What did people expect. S197 is the best coyote platform, imo. I run a gen 3 short block and a whipple on e85 in my 13 🤙🏼 Hey even, thanks for your contributions and passion in the mustang world. I’m an OG foxbody guy like you.
@bluebeastsrt
10 ай бұрын
So since you had a S197 that makes it the best.😂😂😂
@robfeldschun6146
10 ай бұрын
And I have a sick foxbody. Mustang owner since 1991 and yes S197’s and foxbody’s are the best. And yes, my opinion is way more valid than yours.
@TatersFPV
4 ай бұрын
I love my 13’ to death and will never sell it but there’s no denying the s550/650 is a much better platform. Especially handling
@robfeldschun6146
4 ай бұрын
My 13 is built for straight line power. Besides, anything 15 and up is fugly, imo
@TatersFPV
4 ай бұрын
@@robfeldschun6146 never really liked the s550s either besides the Shelby’s. That’s why I waited till the s650 and I personally like the look a lot better
Project Blue BALLZ!!! - THX for the content!
It's an amazing modern V8 engine in new gen7 Mustang. Don't see how anyone can complain!? Have you driven a newer Mustang lately? They are incredible. Even a Mustang Ecoboost is an excellent sports car /daily driver. Have my order in for '24 Mustang GT 5.0L w/ performance pack/ ZF 6spd manual. Black on black! Can't beat em. 💯 👍🏻🇺🇸 -NY
Great video REVan..Ford to the front 100%
@revanevan
11 ай бұрын
Thank you.
12 hp from the carbon trap removal? 12 rwhp is 12 rwhp. A free mod is a free mod. Gotta love a free mod! And picking up power throughout the RPM band is nice also. And 5 hp from filters? Ehhh... I put filters in everything I own. Lol
Could you please, please run a dyno with 87 octane and then 93 to see if there is actually a huge difference. super curious I'm sure a bunch of other mustang owners are. there aren't any good videos on this.
Thanks for sharing guys.
17 HP and 19 lb ft for almost no work or cost isn’t too bad at all. I think the biggest problem with it is traction. It really needs the right tire to utilize all of the torque and Horsepower it has.
@dom_not_torretotedesco5707
11 ай бұрын
They come with 315s on the rear, and from what I’ve seen the pirelli trafeo R is a pretty sticky tire outside of a dedicated drag radial
@Surferguy09
11 ай бұрын
It's weight dude wow the dyno don't know what gear your in
@TTyote
10 ай бұрын
@@notfiveoput that bitch on E85 and you'll want to smell the fumes. Trust me. 🌽😌
I don't think many are complaining about power, they are complaining about E/T and trap speed which is what matters. I could care less if it dynoed at 1000rwhp if it's slow compared to previous gen. 2018 was trapping at 119-120mph. 3 or 4mph faster
@Jimmyxsx
11 ай бұрын
2015 S550 was slower than the 2014 S197 and nobody said shit, all of a sudden everyone complaining 😂 It took the S550 3 years after its release, a higher compression coyote and a 10 speed transmission just to be faster than the S197.
@nbdbreezy4352
11 ай бұрын
@@Jimmyxsxright. this shit barely beats a boss 302 that's over 10 years old
@Falcon-mc5fs
11 ай бұрын
@@Jimmyxsx what are you talking about, loads of people were talking about the slower s550. Then the 2018 rolled out and had us all grinning from ear to ear. Nobody said much about the decrease in power of the 2020 because it was advertised as such but now we have no compensation for the extra weight even with the advertised extra power which is the worst news. Because it's going to cost more to get weight moving. They should have added cube's if adding weight again. It was advertised as faster 0-60 and nobody is seeing it
@Jimmyxsx
11 ай бұрын
@@Falcon-mc5fs 2015 was also advertised as a faster 0-60 and it was getting clapped by the s197. Where im I heading with this, since it took almost 3 years for the S550 to get fast than its probably gonna take another 3 years for the S650 to get fast as well. New performance variants are coming and with that Ford always does revisions to the Mustang Gt.
@Falcon-mc5fs
11 ай бұрын
@@Jimmyxsx I get you, but just like then we're disappointed now as well. The real problem right now is weight and and we already didn't like the weight of the last car. If the new one is significantly more expensive I and many others expect more speed and I think most would argue for a focus on weight reduction with the extra money
Great video. I go back and forth on liking this car, but I do love the engine and drivetrain. Encouraging results.
Outstanding video, as always with Evan. Read every issue of MM&FF back in the day, while piloting my 84 Mustang GT
@revanevan
11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@dom_not_torretotedesco5707
11 ай бұрын
Im right thier with ya! Used to love those magazines back in highschool, that was my proof that all the other magazines didn’t know how to run a car down the drag strip. Evan was out thier running 13s in a stock new edge GT, while the other guys where nowhere close to those numbers
@malloycade8626
10 ай бұрын
I have boxes and boxes of them still!
@stangcobra592
10 ай бұрын
@malloycade8626 Who doesn't it's hard to throw them out. It's wild to think what the pioneers like Texas Turbo and Racin Jason would be capable of if they were youngsters in this era..Deputy's times seemed so earth shattering then while today it's not even impressive..
GOOD KNOWLEDGE JUST LIKED & SUBSCRIBED
@revanevan
11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
I pulled my carb out of my 22 Mach 1 hp and notice a difference in acceleration.
I think the problem is that everyone doesn’t understand that if you have a automatic with different gearing it’s not gonna make the full hp out of 1.1 because 1) the speed limiter 2) it’s just a different set up. Also think people are just too ignorant to know Ford states Hp ratings to the crank not wheel. Glad to see new mustang is holding power as advertised!
Thanks for showing the stats. I just got my 2024 gt convertible and will be following to get ideas.
Whipple has the key to the ECU since they are teamed up with Ford and their superchargers. Everyone else, nope.
Project Blue Thunder
@rogerrabbito4517
2 ай бұрын
Project Blue BALLZ!!!
Excellent video thank you.
@revanevan
11 ай бұрын
You're welcome.
That is one gnarly horse! ❤️🔥 Name ideas! Cindercorn Cimmerian Cerulusian The Mistral Stallion Tizerus Gulltoppr Frightmare
Great video guys for sure. If it had a little more octane to go in hand with the additional airflow and leave the filters exposed on the dyno it would probably make 460-465 that’s incredible there’s plenty you can do on the stock tune free flowing exhaust, Porting etc..
@robertcopes1185
10 ай бұрын
Yes, That specific K&N allows you to keep filter exposed... Had that set up on a 94' Cobra trying desperately to reach 300 HP ...🤨
@matt7sixty
10 ай бұрын
@@robertcopes1185I mean the covers here in the s650. They dyno higher with them off
Well I’m sold (already was). Definitely want the dark horse
Those "high flow" filters are nice... if you don't mind just letting everything get into your car's engine. Those things literally filter nothing. Of course they increase air flow. Take a normal paper filter after a few thousand miles and blow compressed air through it the other way, you'll see a ton of dust get blown out. Do that with a high flow and literally nothing comes out of it, because it filtered none of that dust you saw coming out of the paper filter, it all just went straight into your motor. For a mere 5 horsepower increase, I personally don't think it's worth it. I would just keep with the paper filters myself...
@shannonpatrick77
8 ай бұрын
Agreed I have always thought this
Years ago when putting a square K&N in a 92' LX 5.0 I had , it started with wrestling an enormous piece of plastic out of the front passenger side fender. 🥵 😄...A Dyno on the new RTR would be cool to see as well...FORD💪💯
Can we just end ..that you get an awesome 5.0 engine ..two throttle bodies. 440 hp. Is great. To hit that 500 + bigger injectors Headers.. straight pipe. Ecu tune maybe 640 Hp.. they gave you a scat pack killer. Out the box.
@kamikaziblack
10 ай бұрын
Wheel hp is different then crank hp the point was to show that you are getting the 500hp crank hp as advertised
Is adaptive octane logic enabled thats main thing i want to know....
Thanks for doing a good, through "magazine style", in-depth video. Nice to see the progression and incremental HP and Tq improvements. Good stuff!
EXCELLENT!!! Content!!! Guys!!!
Awesome Sam is the man!
My fox could only dream of this kind of power from the factory. Still fun to drive though and it still looks pretty and that makes me happy. And yes, it is a V8 with a manual transmission.
Very interesting. A simple and practical way to get some extra HP. If you gonna take it to the dragstrip, it would be an ideal ocassion for some racing against previous models, since everybody is arguing if the car is faster or slower... The Dark Horse has divided Mustang enthusiasts' opinions as few other models. I can't imagine a cool name.. Since its a kind of successor of the Terminator, should be called Judgement Day...
@fernandochaves9665
10 ай бұрын
With camaro and challenger terminated by 2024, too.
Love it guys!!! Dark horse fighter!!!
So 515hp and 429tq out the crank. Without the carbon filters ,531hp and 443tq out the crank. Now with a reusable filters, 536hp and 451tq out the crank👍🏽
Nice to see a 6 speed. I love stangs.
Did your dyno guy skateboard back in the 80s? That Coastal Dyno logo looks a whole lot like the old Santa Cruz skateboards logo! 💯
Twin TB: Logic makes sense, but they could have did the old 96+ Cobra twin TBs setup with a single lever (53mm x 2) and one giant inlet w/carbon trap. It would have been simpler, more reliable and easier to modify. Instead they went with dual intake tracks which is the most complicated option and hardest to modify.
@buckhorncortez
11 ай бұрын
"could have did..." Now, that's some gooder English...
@invalidusername_5101
10 ай бұрын
1. Highly paid engineers test this stuff so I doubt a dude typing from home is gone suggest something they haven’t tried already. 2. They don’t want people modifying it because they locked the ecu…
@jakewiththemark8
7 ай бұрын
Two inlets with the same carbon trap is harder on the software side but not on the intake molding side. They would have had to make a massive intake tube that would be hard to package. And would still have a massive carbon trap blocking it. Also 96 cobras had dual 57mm throttle body's
Project Blue Cheese
@tylerphelps4868
11 ай бұрын
Cuz it gross and people that like it shouldn’t be trusted
@Dabber422
11 ай бұрын
lol @@tylerphelps4868
I think people were hoping Ford under rated them like they used to. Terminator cobra times.
People are so spoiled now. 430 to the tire from the factory with all the niceties is awesome
@jackshepard7966
10 ай бұрын
That is a huge letdown for the price honestly. My Supra is 390 to the tires and for the price dealers are charging for the dark horse, it’s definitely not worth it
@ZACH_95_
10 ай бұрын
@@jackshepard7966Doesn’t matter, back in the day it wasn’t like this. In todays world, that’s the price you gotta pay or you don’t get one. 🤷🏼♂️
@sweaterbacongaming1208
10 ай бұрын
We were hitting 400 on street cars I. The 90’s lol
@treyrags
10 ай бұрын
@@sweaterbacongaming1208 bone stock factory naturally aspirated? 🤣
@sweaterbacongaming1208
10 ай бұрын
@@treyrags BMW M5 400 the Diablo 535/ even the f150 lighting sat at 325 all from factory.
Good stuff fellas
They probably had more emissions designing and building those traps than what they will ever save
The filter part number is RU-1037
I’m scratching my head why anyone is doubting simple engine math. Look at the peak torque. Horsepower is just torque X RPM divided by 5252. So the higher it spins the more power it should make. Honestly would love to see this kind of money put into an NA 2V. I guarantee it would make similar power while weighing significantly less
It’s not that this thing makes 500hp or not, it’s the fact that the S550 was probably underrated because they make about the same to the wheels. Get this car because you simply want a new car. Not because you want a “faster” car..
@jeoffbenzos4959
11 ай бұрын
No s550 is getting 440 to the wheels stock. Not a chance. Gen 3s get like 390-400 whp. Neither car is/was underrated in terms of power.
@Tattle-by-Tale
11 ай бұрын
You talk as if the S550 was never independently dyno'd rofl.
@sstevocamaro
10 ай бұрын
@@jeoffbenzos4959 They make about 420 whp with the manual transmission from everything that I’ve seen on the net.
What do these weigh now?
Great video. Like the 5.0s. But still would like to see that 6.8/7.3 in one from factory
@crownvictorialifestyle4421
11 ай бұрын
Why it's heavyer and can't make as much power without a heads cam full build over 10 psi the 7.3 will blow apart
@crownvictorialifestyle4421
11 ай бұрын
Get a Chevy instead
@7000U9ZHIFT
11 ай бұрын
@crownvictorialifestyle4421 your way off... a 7.3 modded from the factory for a mustang would have more power everywhere in the curve.... the only spot the 5.0 would do better is rpm extension.... but by then the 7.3 is gone already
@03nike80
11 ай бұрын
10 psi and it blows? cmon man haha@@crownvictorialifestyle4421
@vyrrwolf288
11 ай бұрын
@@7000U9ZHIFTthanks to cleetus mcfarland we know what the 7.3l godzilla v8 can do and it is very impressive.
Project Blue Magic 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Will make more one you break it in
no gm junk with 2 valve LS/LT can pick up 17hp at wheels so easy, coyote doing what coyote does killing it
@gloriamaletta8667
11 ай бұрын
It's a 75,000 dollar car
Good stuff. Sub'd.
@revanevan
11 ай бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoy!
Project Mystique (like X-men. She's blue). Has a good ring to it.
Project Blue Steel
What fuel would you recommend running this car daily. Like would 93 help the longevity of the car or is 87 just fine
@rubymanko23
11 ай бұрын
Your car will run like pure shit on 87. Should always go with what is recommended in your manual. I haven’t seen any high performance car run smoothly with regular fuel. Buy premium there’s plenty of videos explaining why. I’ll see you at the gas station twice a week spending $70-90 depending on where you stay 😊
@revanevan
11 ай бұрын
91-93
My 15 428/402...18 mani pmas cai bbk LTH...cat delete...no dyno tune yet...just tune for 18 mani w/lockouts n cat tune..5th gear pull
Blue blood because it’s royalty
Do you have a part number for the air filters?
Perfect break in procedure lololol
Removing the carbon traps makes sense, but paying extra to run filters that allow tons more harmful particulates into the engine is not worth it for a measly 1% increase in HP. Also, multiple dyno runs would be needed to confirm legitimate gains because there could easily be a 1% fluctuation in results between every run without changing anything.
Call it Ford Project - True Blue Oval, paying respect to Ford's racing history. True Blue Oval sings the history of Fords putting power to the ground on race tracks. If you use this name can I get an autographed photo of this particular Dark Horse, and then I will mail back an autographed copy of my book that reverse engineered all the physics involved in physical on-ground dowsing with the modern light weight ball bearing dowsing rod, which is the same physics used in electronic metal detecting. The book's name is The Art of Dowsing - Separating Science from Superstition. Thank you Evan for all the information and entertainment with this channel. I am looking forward to another (stand alone) Fast Fords .... type magazine. How come Ford itself did not buy and take over the magazine, which was one of Ford's best advertising tools with very little expense to Ford (supplying free parts) ? All Ford fans had to pay the price of Tens Publishing's other nine bankrupt magazines, such as Super Chevy. I like Chevy power too, mostly in the muscle car era, but from the 1980's on, I am all Ford,. At twelve years old (late 1960's), I had a 1953 Ford F100 with a 292 C.I. and a manual car three speed with driving it everywhere as though I actually had a drivers license, (even drove it to jobs I had). 300lbs on rocks stacked against the tailgate gave traction for driving on all the 4x4 jeep tails, where we would see friends in their 4x4's asking "how the hell did you get that two wheel drive truck in here" ? The only answer to that question is you have to know what you're doing with a 4x4 and you have to be a little crazy. Can't wait for income coming in from our book sales and advertisement money from our new KZread channel, "Tracy and Michael's Dowsing Adventure", with buying a new Raptor R and 2020 - 2022 Shelby GT 500 for modifications by Hennesey Peformance. The future may hold an REVan Evan KZread video on the vehicles, because you are one of the few whom I would trust for accurate representation of all aspects of the vehicles. P.S. I like Shelby's Las Vegas performance modification shop too.
Will it void the warranty?
Can't wait to see these slapped on a Gen 1
Project Dark Ember!!!
I am going to get one of these Dark Horses in the near future...can you work that engine for me?
I have an opinion on drive train power loss. It is not a percentage. It is a fixed amount. The amount power needed to turn a mechanical device should not change based on the power of what is turning it. It's simple mechanics. Also a lower gear on a dyno should produce a higher number since the lower gear is producing more torque and the dyno reads torque over time to give you a horsepower number. Unless I'm missing something please let me know.
@jbaker7134
11 ай бұрын
That's a theory that I have too. Although, to accelerate the drivetrain quicker (which we expect from more power), I assume there will be a corresponding increase in the amount of energy to do so.
@braaap6292
11 ай бұрын
It is a percentage, not a fixed amount, basically for the reason stated above. As you have a more powerful vehicle, the drive train is accelerated at a faster rate, which takes more energy input. It also increases loads and more energy is lost via friction/heat. If it was a fixed amount, that would mean a low horsepower car wouldn't even have enough power to move at all lol. A typical car only uses about 20hp to cruise at 65mph, and most of that power is used to overcome aerodynamic drag. Also, remember HP is a function of torque AND speed. So dynoing at a lower gear increases torque to the wheels but at a slower speed; it essentially cancels out and that's why it doesn't matter that much what gear you dyno in. The math ends up with a similar result. A big reason cars were traditionally dynoed in direct gear (typically 4th in a manual or 3rd in an auto) is because traditionally gearboxes bypass all the physical gears in that speed and the input shaft is physically connected to the output shaft, eliminating friction lost through the actual gears used for the other speeds. So you'll get a little boost in your dyno readings. There are other factors but that's the main stuff.
Great power gains with minimal mods.
Good video!
When you remove the carbon traps.... does it throw any codes on map sensors or anything else?
I just subscribed ❤
@revanevan
11 ай бұрын
Thank you David.
Name her Feeling Blue !!
Wonder if the dealerships will get pressure to deny claims over the filter removal
@buckhorncortez
10 ай бұрын
Came like that from the factory. ...
@malloycade8626
10 ай бұрын
Removal*
Is it worth buying over the 2024 mustang gt ?
Made the same rwhp horsepower as a 2007 Gt 500.
@RyTrapp0
11 ай бұрын
NA with less displacement - wild!
@BC08
11 ай бұрын
@@RyTrapp0 More compression, more cam and a whole lot more RPM
@RyTrapp0
11 ай бұрын
@@BC08 Of course, obviously there's reasons - more head flow too, and an intake manifold with actually useful runner length lol. Or we could just compare it to a 550 or 662HP GT500. But it's still wild that it's an NA 5.0l compared to a blown 5.4l. 15 years isn't a short amount of time, but it isn't a long amount of time either, the auto industry has made some huge leaps. I mean, we have a non-limited production NA Mustang that makes 100HP/liter, this is ridiculous. Wasn't that long ago that the wheezy ass 300-315HP 3v was the standard V8.
@BC08
11 ай бұрын
@@RyTrapp0 On Ron Robert’s old flow bench head flow is pretty much a wash. He had a Superflow and ran everything @ 28”with most of the Modular stuff on a 3.552 bore plate Stock supercar heads: ~305/230 Gen 1 Coyotes: ~295/200 I think the Gen 2-3 stuff might have cracked 310 on the intake but the exhaust port stayed pretty similar to Gen 1 (small), based on memory. Ron also had a port program with +2mm valves that took the Supercar heads to ~400/350. Coyote castings can’t touch that (even Voodoo) especially on that exhaust port even with comparable port work.
What kind of filter are those ?? Brand and part # ??
Love the engines... HATE the car, no tribar headlights, dull taillights, sophomoric kids dashboard, and WTF is a Darkhorse... they should have just kept a Mach1 with that cold air setup mach1 WAS SUPPOSED TO HABE last years,... good video as usual..
@shannonpatrick77
8 ай бұрын
The third horseman of the apocalypse carries a balance scale, rides a black horse, and symbolizes famine.
@SHADOWBLACKs650
8 ай бұрын
@@shannonpatrick77 go play your video games kid nobody cares what you think.
I wonder if someone made a Bigger diameter carbon filter area, potentially allowing more air flow before the MAF, if that would equal removing the carbon trap HP loss. Space appears to be a restricting factor there. Some say that the HP gain with K&N style filters disappears as the computer 'learns' the air flow difference. Any thoughts on that?