Thank u for ur brutal honesty. Best s650 channel on YT!

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Thanks

Great video, I watched all 1+40 full length of the video. This is the first Stage I install video for Whipple that I have seen. I have watched 7 videos of the Whipple Stage II SC where 5 of 7 cars had Kooks headers and full 3” exhaust and the results were between 775 - 815 rwhp using the provided Whipple/Ford tune and all 7 videos added Boostang. One video actually changed the pulley to increase boost to 11 psi. The two cars with the lower rwhp were the two Mustangs without cooks headers and stock exhaust. The 5 higher horsepower cars also installed the 170* thermostat. So many Mustang owners are most likely going to select the Stage 2 over the Stage 1 Whipple SC. You still have warranty from both Ford & Whipple. Thanks for your video. I have been around many years in this effort; most owners are looking for ~~700 rwhp if daily driven. As you said at the end of the video you found that the tires were braking loose at your ~656 rwhp. So you have an awesome looking S650 to drive daily. Get some 1 7/8” Cooks ceramic coated, change out the pulley and add some Boostang and you have 700+ rwhp!!! Great video‼️I am curious to see what you do next. Cheers Brother‼️👍👊💪😎🐎🇺🇸

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much, more content coming soon!

@g04tn4d0

Күн бұрын

Yep! Yep! That's what I'm doing... Whipple CAI, Whipple Stage 2, long tubes, cat deletes (using bungs), resonator delete, stock mufflers, wheels and tires, seat belt delete/harness conversion, and done.

You have the best s650 content on the tube right now 👏🏽

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Thank you, I’d like to say - the realest.

Finally a shop not afraid to hurt some feelings even though they are a dealer for this brand.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

We think after some miles its picked up power through adaptive - new video coming soon following up. Car went 10.2 @ 135 so the power is there.

@sn95_mustang_garage

2 ай бұрын

@@MurphysLawGarage unfortunately the Stage 2 on those other shop cars are trapping 140-145 MPH.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

I’ll manage 140 in -DA this winter, there’s definitely a 9 in the car. Most of those stage 2 cars are pullied with headers

Had a blast doing the install. It came out great. Can’t wait to see what it runs

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

I had a blast working with you Billy - we ought to collab more often! I can’t wait either!

Best part of this is the real numbers. Was so tired of the “ higher than normal “ dyno numbers

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

🫡

Alex called this out long time ago this is a blue check mark

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

🥸

I was thinking mid 7s with octane but maybe others were using funny dynos… trap MPH is the only truth! Glad you got your kit, mine should ship next week afaik.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

I have the estimated HP based on trap speed at the end of the video!

Awesome video. Honestly, I wondered if some trickery ;like moving the dyno temp sensor to a hotter location) was used in those 800hp dyno videos.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

I dont think we’ll ever know.

Great video!!

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Thanks

Well done.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Thanks

Great video I appreciate the transparency. I wish more people would stop giving information that they are aware is not the case.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Thank you,

Good video being truthful to customers about Dyno Numbers. #amry

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Thanks

Within the range of a “Good Meal Tip” Well done.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Thanks Matt

Be good to see the next video with some dragy numbers. Lite the world on fire again.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Working on my suspension/testing to post the best numbers for them.

@79stroker

2 ай бұрын

@MurphysLawGarage lol Alex going to lite you on fire hahaha, totally get the back story on that!! Fug that guy, but still good to see some real world results and not some inflated BS or track passes that have the video cut out before the time comes up.

@79stroker

2 ай бұрын

@MurphysLawGarage on a side note, Steeda progressive springs, stock shocks and a stop the hop bar with a MT street R dead hooked up here in Canada at near freezing at 40mph on the street. That was on E85 and a 3.5 pulley. Likely around a real 830whp. Went 9.5@147 at the track. 3200 DA

Good video thanks

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

No problem

DUD's LAW GARAGE 😂😂 What did you expect, its a DUD and your channel is literally named what could go wrong! 😂😂 jkjk Keep up the good work 👍🏽 It will probably make more power now that you have driven it a bit but the true story will be at the strip.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

We are going to get back on the dyno and go to the track now that the car has miles on it.

I called them out on one of their videos that said they were making 800 with just their kit on a stock car. Them and lethal are full of shit. #Amry

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

🫡

I installed the first customer kit 2-3 weeks ago on my DH stage 2 kit. With my son in the car, we ran a best of 6.3. Fast! 60-130. You need to drive the car and let it learn. I was in e30 on DR. Love this car!

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

It’s definitely improving.

@79stroker

2 ай бұрын

What pulley. 3.7 on a gen 3 coyote with a gen 5 whipple is high 5 or bottom bottom 6's. On 93, JUST 93.

Love that you guys keep it real! Great video! What exhaust do you have it sounds great?

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Thanks, MBRP Street

That’s crazy

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Yep

Expose em!!!😂😂 800 is way out of reality.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

👀

My 2011 (412hp) mustang made 676 with a gen3r, so I am not super impressed . Hopefully it runs the number you want at the track. I will be following your project.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

We’ll be back on the dyno soon as well at the track, video should be up next week.

Its literally a DUD 😂😂😂

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Hey now…. 🫠

Subscribed because of Alejandro Flores. Good job calling this shit out . One of the clowns owns the company on that baseball cap you're wearing as well.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the sub

Great feedback on an amazing platform. Weren't other installs able to get to 7600+ rpm with the HP increasing to the end?

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Thanks! Yes, but on stage2 cars, the limiter is high.

THE "EXPLODER" version of the YOTE

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

?

Great video! How did you get those assembly line photos on the wall in your wrap up?

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Thanks, unfortunately I can’t say.

Awesome Install !! Did you guys use any special tools to remove fuel line? 26:20

@MurphysLawGarage

Ай бұрын

Thanks, no special tools.

Now you need a new track video. I see you’re a little disappointed in the numbers but for what you got that’s no dud lol. Nice car J

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Thanks

I ordered this kit with my DH. Appreciate the honesty on this...has whipple finally started shipping the ford kits to the dealers? I have heard "sometime in may" the last few weeks...some ship dates would be nice! If you know anything about that please let me know.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Thanks, no I haven’t heard anything

Supa fass

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Rocket into a missle

I should see if norm would be interested in doing a video on my car. I’m installing a stage 2. Wonder what the “real” numbers would reveal on the very same dyno but the other kit.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Call him up.

@Properly-Gapped

2 ай бұрын

@@MurphysLawGarage will do 😊

I ordered my whipple 2 weeks ago. these results are very disappointing. for 10k and then getting reamed 5k to install by everyone I talked with is crazy. Ill be pitting mine on the dyno now.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Make sure to post so we can see please.

Did you use the BMR SUSPENSION BSF760B FRONT BUMPER SUPPORT?

@MurphysLawGarage

Ай бұрын

Yes, same as the S550.

Hey guys, very interested to know about using E30 in this car. The owner's manual states these cars shouldn't go any higher than E15 - so the E10 of pure pump gasoline is already near the supposed limit. Is an E30 blend still safe to use? I've seen you guys using E30 when this car was completely stock and running an 11.6 in the quarter.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

It was tested by JPC Racing pretty thoroughly that these cars could deal with up to E40 before leaning out. So to stay safe we’ve never gone above E30.

....and that' STD correction. It would make even lower with standard SAE correction.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Correct

My 21 year old 2003 Terminator Cobra must made 658/653 with a whipple 2.3. The torque punch's you in the face....oh and I ran out of fuel pump at 4,000 RPM's at 100% duty cycle and the run stopped at 5,500 RPM. There's more in it.........

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Awesome 🫡

So when you put the airboxes back in, is it normal to lose the piece of duct work that connects to the front air intake holes on the fascia? When I had mine done, they didn't put those snorkle looking things back in there and I'm not sure if they forgot to put them back or if Whipple recommends they stay deleted.

@MurphysLawGarage

Күн бұрын

It should go back, you must clip them into the grill and then slip the boxes in.

Thanks for being honest. Whipple has great products (have one on my 22 F150) but this phony advertising was not needed.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

The shops caused the smoke and mirrors here

This isn't surprising. Even with the S550 these warrantied, smog legal blowers never made the advertised horsepower. It's always after tuning them do you start to see real gains.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

🫡

As far as the other shops making 800+, their trap speeds come up way short from what ive seen.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Trap speeds tell all

May I ask, what is the complete install time on the Stage 1 Kit on an s650? Thank you.

@MurphysLawGarage

24 күн бұрын

About 12-14hrs

@user-xc5es2ut7t

24 күн бұрын

@@MurphysLawGarage THANK YOU brother, I knew the dealer was trying to hammer me. I appreciate your time.

Now run the dyno again with your stock tires and see what happens. I only say that because alot of the dyno runs i have seen went out of their way to smaller rear tires on for the dyno run.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

If anything the 28” tire is helping with the 3.55 gear. The effective gear ratio is closer to a 3.33

@kirkkarnage6344

2 ай бұрын

@@MurphysLawGarage just an idea since you see every other video do the same thing and most of them are manual so they also have 3.55 gears. I am saving for my supercharger now but i only have 3.15 gearing so hopefully someone else does a 3.15 video but then so i know if it is worth it not lol

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

You have to remember a MT82 car will show more HP because there is less drivetrain loss. There are no other stage 1 videos on YT - this is it.

@kirkkarnage6344

2 ай бұрын

@@MurphysLawGaragei get all that just an idea for a video. To show how much of a difference tires cause on a dyno. Clearly your current numbers are going to be more legitimate since that is the setup you are running, but it could have interesting results and get you some views.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Certainly

My gut told me there's no way that stage one made 810 stock.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

We are going to try and find that 30whp needed to make it make sense. I have faith in Whipple.

Can you here whine in the cabin?

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Rarely and very faint - everyone outside and out front can.

That Seth guy needs to chill out, my girl watches this channel.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, that guy

@mrx9844

2 ай бұрын

He seems harmless

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

I have it on good info he is.

@cormaro13

Ай бұрын

You need to grab your girls tampons then if you’re going to continue to watch 😂

why does whipples website say stage 1 is 810 whp and stage 2 is 870, and all the youtube videos say otherwise. also the website says the difference is the throttle body and tune

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Crank HP, not wheel HP. Yes, the difference is only the TB and tune. Stage1 is artificially limited.

@bushesareuseful

2 ай бұрын

@MurphysLawGarage if it's 810 crank then you should be seeing more then 670 wheel.

@bushesareuseful

2 ай бұрын

@@MurphysLawGarage i dont understand how you are losing 160 hp through the drive train. just doesnt seem right.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

@bushesareuseful 688.5 would be the magic number on 93. We are getting back on the dyno Monday.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

15% drivetrain loss, which is actually pretty good for an auto

Ford needs to just unlock the damn tune and let us car people do our thing idk why they did this crap. And showing the gauge 180 but only able to hit 155, ford is just like Chevy locks it for no damn reason

@MurphysLawGarage

18 күн бұрын

Its not the manufacturers, the EPA is requiring the lockdown to prevent emissions bypass.

Well Palm Beach just did a DH all stock, all stock, guy drove from NC - on a hot car got 747 taking into consideration it’s supposed to be 500hp out of the box stock - maybe you have a dog instead of a Pony 😮… I guess they are lying at Palm Beach (I F’ing doubt that) but I will add that dude had a stage 2 kit… kzread.info/dash/bejne/g6xru7Fpdqydeaw.htmlsi=5Iz3KwFrE2-j4JIE

@MurphysLawGarage

Ай бұрын

Stage 2 makes 50whp more than my stage1, so their car made exactly what it should’ve.

@2blackbikes

Ай бұрын

@@MurphysLawGarage so what’s the deal with the stage 1 vs 2 like why are there two why can’t they warranty a the 2 …?

@2blackbikes

Ай бұрын

@@MurphysLawGarage Roush might be a better choice those are warranted as well prolly the same numbers

@MurphysLawGarage

Ай бұрын

Only Whipple can tune S650’s, so Roush isn’t an option, and Ford went with Whipple for the Ford Performance kits - VMP also uses a whipple for their kit. The stage 2 has a larger throttle body, 2lbs more boost and a higher rev limit. Stage1 is designed to be warrantable under Ford’s testing for reasonable abuse and a long life. Stage 2 requires someone to know when to calm down or you’re gonna pop it.

Transmission loss is a % not a fixed number and it's not even a fixed % on an auto car due to clutch slip etc

@MurphysLawGarage

Ай бұрын

You should tell that to Ford who quotes it at 15%, regardless it’s all an estimate unless its an engine dyno.

Stage 2 whipple numbers not stage 1..

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

😶‍🌫️

Who else is here from the YDBT CHANNEL? #peasantchat

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

🥸

This video could have easily been 30 minutes or less.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

There are chapters, skip to what you want to see. You forget its a How-to for those installing themselves.

@RecklessRegal

2 ай бұрын

@@MurphysLawGarage Are you changing anything when putting E30 in and why only E30?

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

No changes, it’s the largest amount of E you can safely put in them as tested by Whipple.

@RecklessRegal

2 ай бұрын

@@MurphysLawGarage based on what? The tune or fuel supply?

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

@RecklessRegal Whipple tuned the car, they tested fueling/lambda on E30 for both the Stage1 and Stage2 cars. The fuel system is adequate and the cars safely make more power. These new PCM’s have a tremendous amount of adaptive learning. This car in particular has ran E30 for more than 100 passes down the track prior to the Whipple and picked up 1-2mph.

Lmao why get something brand new that’s not gonna outperform its predecessors 😂 S650 guys are noobs

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

I only see one noob here 😘

@OSMINCONDE23

2 ай бұрын

@@MurphysLawGarage line that S650 up with a previous gen Mustang with a blower and comparable mods. You know it won’t win 0-60 or 60-130 noob

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

🤨

@79stroker

2 ай бұрын

​@MurphysLawGarage wow some people are angry.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Yep

Palm Beach has made over 700 to the tires on 4 different cars

@FitzCityGarage

2 ай бұрын

Every single one of those cars had long tube headers and octane booster. Also, they are at sea level, which is great for HP numbers.

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Stage 2 cars

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

We are at sea level too

@diambo4life

2 ай бұрын

@@FitzCityGarage ...and initially they didn't disclose the octane booster deal until they got blasted on social media for it.

Dyno is car treadmill 😂😂😂😂😮

@MurphysLawGarage

2 ай бұрын

Basically lol