Thorin's eye-brows were given to Thranduil.

@Jess_of_the_Shire

Жыл бұрын

Incredible observation

@charlottao9472

11 ай бұрын

😂

@k49821

11 ай бұрын

💀

@ParameterGrenze

Ай бұрын

Poor Thorin had to sell them.

Who at the studio really thought the fans would say “I wasn’t gonna see that Hobbit movie, but now that I know three of the dwarves are hot-!!!”

@isabelnoyer5893

2 ай бұрын

To be completely frank, I only watch The Hobbit's trilogy to thirst over Thorin. Not proud of this, but there you go... 😅

@harrisonbloom816

2 ай бұрын

@@isabelnoyer5893 i stand corrected then!

@TheVanne2108

2 ай бұрын

@@isabelnoyer5893 My best friend and I still watch the movies at least twice a year to thirst (also because of many other aspects, but let's be honest, who doesn't like to look at pretty people)

@poki580

Ай бұрын

women obviously

John Rhys-Davies *looked* like a Dwarf. He had the voice of a Dwarf and the demeanor of a Dwarf. Throughout all of the Hobbit films I could never shake that uncanny impression of watching a bunch of cosplayers in Dwarf costumes.

@thomasmartin4281

2 ай бұрын

I thought they got it mostly right but the bad was really bad and they were important: Great: Balin, Dwalin, Gloin, Oin, Bifur, Bombur, Dori, Nori: Ok: Ori, Fili (as young dwarves) Bad: Kili, Thorin, Bofur (just needed a nose and longer beard or a fu manchu mustache)

@haleywilson520

Ай бұрын

There's something about the costuming, effects, and overall ambiance of the LotR movies that's far more realistic and believable than whatever the Hobbit was going for

One of my absolute favorite details of Gimli's costume is the flower design at the crest of his helmet. It definitely makes me think that the costume designers were taking inspiration from the relationship between Gimli and Galadriel. I have no proof of this, but it's my head cannon 😅

@Jess_of_the_Shire

Жыл бұрын

Oh I hadn't noticed that, great catch! And who knows, maybe it was a connection to Galadriel. That would be super neat

The dwarves are somewhat forgettable in the trilogy because they become greatly overshadowed by all the studio additions. When MGM and Warner Bros wanted three movies, they pushed Peter Jackson to add several side plots to make it feel like The Lord of the Rings. Also, as you said, The Hobbit is mostly about Bilbo Baggins, but the studios pushed the movies to focus on other "action" characters. Therefore, Thorin's company gets overlooked and forgotten. And it's a real shame because they are all great in An Unexpected Journey when the trilogy feels the most like the book. The opening dinner scene in Bag End conveys all of the dwarves' character traits and gives the viewer an understanding of the group our protagonist is accompanying. However, this slowly dissipates as the trilogy transpires. I like the dwarves in The Hobbit trilogy, and it's sad about what happened to them. The actor that played the dwarf Oin, John Callen, after reading the script of The Desolation of Smaug movie was disappointed with the direction the trilogy was going. Afterward, he then told the other dwarf actors while on their break, "These movies aren't about us anymore..." This is the reason I watch the M4 Hobbit Book Edit instead of the trilogy. This edit focuses on Bilbo and the company, which gives the viewer much more of a connection with them.

@alice5790

10 ай бұрын

if you don't mind me asking, what is the edit and where can i watch it??

@NimbusAngelo

10 ай бұрын

@@alice5790 M4 has a webpage for his Hobbit edit. It's the first search result if you google the title of the fan edit. Good luck!

@Gamemaster6400

8 ай бұрын

Where could i watch that edit?

@patron8597

6 ай бұрын

I'm not completely sure I can agree with that. I think they did their best to make all the dwarves actual characters. If there's one criticism I would give about the original book, it's that there's too many dwarves and only a couple of them are actual characters.

@jaebrowne6780

4 ай бұрын

Watch the m4 edit

"With a bit of elbow grease" "Best I can do is talcum sweat"

I remember hearing the actors of the dwarves talking about their characters and thinking "damn. I wish this was the movvie we got"

I've watched all three movies multiple times. How did I miss that one of the dwarves had an AXE in his head?!

@ScottHess

Жыл бұрын

I know! I was like ... what is she even talking about? Indeed, a search shows images, and KZread has the scene where he loses the axe, and tons of comments question if he had it there the entire time.

@timmiller1

Жыл бұрын

I watched the first hobbit movie at least twice in the theater. I have no recollection of an axe in a head.

@Andystuff800

10 ай бұрын

They gloss over it in the theatrical editions but point it out in the extended cut.

@fermintenava5911

10 ай бұрын

Survival instinct?

@ashildrtheswift3028

6 ай бұрын

I learned that because of fanfiction!

It’s just odd that they took a race renowned for its smithing prowess and said to themselves “Shall we give them cool armour? Nah, let’s go leather and furs…”

@InhabitantOfOddworld

11 ай бұрын

Tbf, the book doesn't really specify armour, and comes off as depicting the dwarves more like the Snow White variety It's only with LoTR/Silmarilion that Dwarves are really given their Tolkien lore

@darimamitypova6964

11 ай бұрын

Well, dwalves exiled from their mountain were homeless, poor and lost. Thorin, the next king, had to do heavy labour to survive.

@SereglothIV

10 ай бұрын

​@@johngreen9825Yes, if I remember correctly, they made them equip all the heavy armor while sitting inside Erebor, then charge out into battle without it.

@neodigremo

10 ай бұрын

@@SereglothIV They are all (Thorin aside) wearing pretty hefty armour and weapons in the battle of 5 armies. Much more than they were before. So for me the poor scraps they relatively speaking had makes sense.

@ParameterGrenze

Ай бұрын

I mean… in the beginning of the story they were dressed for travelling through Woods and mountains over days and weeks not for battle.

Little ways to tell the Dwarves apart in the books: Dwalin's blue beard, Fili has a longer nose than his brother, Bomber is fat! Ori wears grey, Oin wears brown, Gloin wears white, etc., Thorin has a silver tassel attached to his hood, and a gold chain necklace. There's a bunch of little ways in the books to tell the Dwarves apart. It would have been nice to see some of these things carry over into the movies. P.S. In the book, Gloin puts to word his doubts about Bilbo and Gandalf basically tells him to do as he says or "go back to mining coal," which basically tells us that Gloin was a coal miner. I don't see why they couldn't build his costume around that.

It just looks to me like Dwarves start out like attractive humans when young, then gradually grow into cartoon characters as they age. Just weird.

@haleywilson520

Ай бұрын

Yeah, like. Where tf did Kili come from?

The symbol for "Bluetooth" is the runic symbol for Harald Bluetooth the medieval king of Scandinavia. I like that.

Dwarven runes look like Futhark, which is ancient Germanic/Skandinavian/ Anglo Saxon runes. These runes were angular because they were meant to be carved into trees with a knife. I think dwarves has much the same constraints. Their runes has to be written with chisels in stone-so straight lines and simple angles.

John Rhys-Davies was not allergic to the prosthetics, though that’s a lot easier to explain so I understand why they went with that. He explained in an interview (which I linked in a.comment on another one of your videos) what actually happened: the glue they used for the prosthetics rips a thin layer of skin off when it’s removed. That’s fine for occasional use, but after doing this for several days in a row, he had no skin around the eyes and therefore they had nothing to attach his prosthetics to. It was so bad hegot extremely self conscious and therefore barely socialised with the rest of the cast. Despite this he thinks it was worth it for the film and does not regret it.

@TrekBeatTK

4 ай бұрын

Not as bad as Tucker Smallwood who had such a bad reaction to eye makeup on Enterprise that he required corrective surgery.

@Northfan42

2 ай бұрын

Yeah. Any talk of inflammation, skin weeping or other irritations is passed off as allergy, rather than the inevitable cumulative result of using the harsh adhesive on the face across many consecutive months. I'm fairly certain some of the long-serving background and stunt performers for dwarves, orcs etc. had similar issues, although perhaps to a lesser extent.

@barukkazhad8998

Ай бұрын

Dwarves always suffer

Peter Jackson wanted to restore the honor and dignity of dwarves? Really wish he wanted that back in the lotr trilogy. Poor Gimli

Bombur is also one of the most fleshed out dwarves in the book.

@vexaris1890

11 ай бұрын

fleshed out. Hehe

@FennecTheRabbit

11 ай бұрын

I love Bombur so damn much

@benkenobi_

6 ай бұрын

​@@FennecTheRabbitalways a Bombur fan

Thorin's eyebrows were burned off by Smaug and they never grew back... lol

@Jess_of_the_Shire

Жыл бұрын

That's an excellent point

@allthings2allmen

2 ай бұрын

I thought it happened at a wild party when all the dwarves got extremely pissed drunk and decided to light their farts. Eyebrows go missing in stranger ways...yet beards remain intact as though protected by some higher force...yeah! it was Smaug, blame it on the Dragon!

Honestly my only problem with most of the costume design, was that most of the dwarves had really really small beards. So many of the dwarves look like beardlings who were just born yesterday and it makes me sad.

I have watched the hobbit trilogy so many times I lose count...and I never knew bifur had an axe in his head! How?

@Jess_of_the_Shire

Жыл бұрын

I've actually heard that from a few people haha! I think it's very funny

@dianewood2430

5 ай бұрын

Me, neither ‼️

Not only was this a great video, but man I love the small touch of how you style yourself to match your videos. The "necklace of diamonds" the gold accents in your hair, your loose braids, the touch of gold on your lipstick and eye shadow, etc. If I didn't know any better I'd say you, yourself are a costume designer. Your presentation style is great- detailed and informative, yet short and sweet. My only real complaint is that at a couple points your music gets a tad loud, but in your newer videos you seem to have addressed this. Keep up the great work, and I'm glad your channel had this recent explosion! Also, side note, an inside joke that my family has is that "canonically Bumbur FUCKS" lol. Nothing more fun to say when you're drunk at someone else's wedding and get on the subject of the Hobbit. 😅

Here’s what blows my mind: The book dwarves are MORE visually distinct than the movies, like the forks and blue dyed beards. They were so vivid and cool. Why ignore that?

"A five-year-old cutting their own hair with craft scissors" Oh, that brings back memories...

Loved the way the Dwarves were done in the films

I think that with so many dwarves, they should have centralized more around the rhyming names and made each group a representative style. I know they did something like this, but they needed stark color or stylistic choices to make each group of dwarves different. That way, you’d know even if you didn’t know the dwarf that you’d know the character. For instance-Bifur, Bofur, and Bombur are the late, sloppy, gluttonous dwarves. Their dress is all fine but messy, shabby chic because they care more about experience than propriety. Will completely leave a hiding spot for food or other dainties. Dori, Nori, and poor Ori are the bardic lore smiths, so they have instruments like their flutes or a large tome instead of packed gear. They are shy but performative and will favor running away to save their instruments and books than fighting. Each group should have its own vibe, so that they don’t get lost on the screen. I had no idea Dori was even in the films for so little screen time as he got. More differentiation would have been better.

My criticism is just one word: whimsy. They injected goofiness that doesn't belong. If they were trying to "be kid-friendly in the spirit of the book," they wouldn't have milked it for all it was worth and made it an epic . . . like butter scraped over too much bread.

Jess, i am OBSESSED with your make-up, speaking of all this costume talk. Helps keep my little ADHD brain focused on long-form videos. *chef's kiss* Thank you for expanding all my tolkien knowledge.

I love the books, I love the Hobbit movies. They are different mediums, and I get it. I actually was more upset that they *included* the Rock Giants from the books in the Hobbit movies, than I was that they *excluded* Tom Bombadil from LOTR. However, they both brought books that I love to life on screen for me to enjoy, and did a wonderful job of that, so I'm not really going to complain about a quibble here or there. With the sunglasses, Bombur looks a little bit like Dr. Robotnik from Sonic the Hedgehog.

I definitely agree with everything here. One of the problems I immediately had the Hobbit movies was how the dwarves didn’t seem as Dwarven as they should have. Didn’t LOOK as Dwarven as they should have. I felt like PJ was trying to do LOTR again, but The Hobbit isn’t that, it shouldn’t be that, and I actually treat the Hobbit movies the same way I do post-Lucas Star Wars: occasionally fun but not canon.

14:03 it's way funnier actually, Bombur comes running back with the axe head and tries to hand it to Bifur and says "Here you go cousin", which is the only line Bombur has across all three hobbit movies

I watched the hobbit movies once and only once. When the 3rd had Fili and Kili along with the elf in Lake Town and the rest of Thorin and Company watching Lake Town burn from the Lonely Mountain, it was far too much for me. And the fact that the movies were less about Bilbo than it should have been. They made one book into a trilogy and yet left out so much. As painful as it is to remember the movies, it's still a delight to watch you.

Thanks so much for putting my own feelings about the Hobbit trilogy's dwarves & their character design into actual words! And holy wow what a lovely and completely unexpected appearance of Lakmé's Flower Duet... **shiftyeyes** 😉

Hey! Thanks a lot for that video! I am trying to create a "new face" for my dwarven costume for a LARP game and your video brings me inspiration and a north about where to focus to makes my dwarf be more like a fantasy dwarf :D that is awesome :D

As someone who has just written a stageplay of The Hobbit (yes, it's officially approved), I did this - lowered the number of dwarves. It may not have been possible to do in the same way on screen, but the main problem with the dwarves is that you have to make them into memorable characters. Their seperate entrances alone could have been given much more love, just as an example. There is definitely time in a nine hour story to establish your main characters, even if they are fifteen people in the company.

What about Dain II and the dwarves of the Iron Hills?

This is great timing! I finally watched all the hobbit movies this week. I was a little taken aback at first at the appearance of the dwarves- they just seemed so comical. But I ended up enjoying the movies more than I expected to. I love hearing your analysis, as always!

@mirafeather7844

Жыл бұрын

And yes!! They could have left Kili looking like a dwarf while still keeping him young and hot. Let him have a beard, and some braids, or SOMETHING!

@NimbusAngelo

Жыл бұрын

@@mirafeather7844 He reminds me of the way Dopey looks in Disney's Snow White. But yes he could have looked more dwarf-like.

@Jess_of_the_Shire

Жыл бұрын

I'm so glad you enjoyed the movies! As long as you go into them with a bit of an open mind and an understanding that they won't be up to the caliber of LotR, they can honestly be very enjoyable. Thank you so much for watching!

@totallynottrademarked5279

11 ай бұрын

@@Jess_of_the_Shire It took me a long time to rewatch after the unforgivable sin of making a love story between an elf and dwarf. Still mad about that but I like the rest more now.

Yeah Fili and Thorin really made me sad

As a hard core LOTR book and Hobbit book lover I gotta say I really enjoy your channel. Thank you

There was definitely time for 13 dwarves in those 3 massive movies, they just gave that time to Bard, Legolas, Thranduil, Azog, Tauriel, Bolg, Radagast, Brads family, the white council, Sauron and fucking Alfrid. All of which are either not in the book or not big characters in the book and thus didn't need all the fucking screen time. If you think about the amount of characters they manged to flesh out in the LOTR movies then it shouldn't be too much of a leap to get 13 dwarves down.

@allthings2allmen

2 ай бұрын

...that's what Bilbo Baggins hates!

@yllejord

3 күн бұрын

Don't bunch together Bard and fucking Alfrid, come on.

Well, there are a few more descriptions of dwarves (Gimli). From The Ring goes South: Gimli the dwarf alone wore openly a short shirt of steel-rings, for dwarves make light of burdens; and in his belt was a broad-bladed axe. From The Road to Isengard: There came Gamling the Old, and Éomer son of Éomund, and beside them walked Gimli the dwarf. He had no helm, and about his head was a linen band stained with blood; but his voice was loud and strong. (So we can assume that Gimlii usually bore a helmet).

Considering that Tolkien provided very little physical descriptions let alone varied personalities for the dwarves in The Hobbit, I thought that the makeup and costuming did a wonderful job trying to make each dwarf stand out.

@mikespangler98

Жыл бұрын

Remember they are refuges in this story, and before Thorin collected them they were living in various places. I wouldn't expect them all to be dressed alike.

@Deatheater4444

4 ай бұрын

@@mikespangler98 They're not refugees in the book. Exiles from Erebor, yes, but Thorin has his own splendid halls in the Blue Mountains where he and the rest of Durin's Folk lived in relative prosperity.

You're a full time Hobbit in my heart, Jess.

The head axe tug of war scene is one of my favorite scenes in The Hobbit trilogy not only for its comedy but because it’s the first time we hear both Bifur and Bomber speak (in English )

I also wish bombur’s Tupperware would’ve been excellent, and will be putting it into my dnd material IMMEDIATELY

Wow...just wow. I knew that they put a lot of thought into these kinds of things. But i didnt know. One thing ive noticed that really emphasizes your points is that in the new 4k edition you can really see a lot of these details. This means the makers did all of this work believing that it would never be seen on camera. Very impressive.

Thorin looks like he's a member of Korn.

@photophob

4 ай бұрын

I always thought he has a very Klingon flair to him. Not how i imagined dwarves at all.

@Gothic_Analogue

3 ай бұрын

I really think he looks like a more human Gowron.

@photophob

3 ай бұрын

@@Gothic_Analogue i‘m glad i‘m not the only one seeing that …

I heard John Rhys Davis didn't want to get a tattoo, not because he wasn't asked but because he doesn't want any ink. It's sweet that his stunt double got one instead!

The gold lips are the best nod to mining.

Balin is my fav of the movie dwarves, and hes the closest to a real Tolkien vision of them

Seeing the animated hobbit movie when I was a very young child definitely shaped my love of fantasy and lotr today, tho I had no idea the impact it had until I was an adult.

Being a 90s kid I have fond memories of Lois and Clark, it would be nice to see that in a NC 😅

The Hobbit is the first book I read and still my favorite, the movie is also my favorite even though they added things in I still love it.

I would love to watch that video with your complete ranking of all of LOTR costumes soooo badly...!!! Please please do give that video a chance - it's a fabulous idea! :)

I believe that, ultimately, Peter Jackson and Co. did fail to create full characters for the dwarves, but like you said this trilogy was named after Bilbo, a Hobbit. They probably should have done a little more work for each dwarves character, but keeping them gimmicky was the right move because there was no way we would get around to anything more than surface level with 13 characters. I will say, I wish Bilbo’s friendship with Thorin was leaned into more.

The more I think about it, the more I think the Hobbit should have been the TV series. The amount of characters and the episodic nature of the adventure really lends itself to that medium, where certain episodes could give each character a bit of the spotlight. Idk, my thoughts on the hobbit trilogy are complicated and unresolved. Ignore my rambling lol. Great video though! I really appreciate when someone can go into such detail about how something as simple as a characters clothing in a book actually has a huge amount of complexity in a visual medium. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

@ashildrtheswift3028

6 ай бұрын

A series would've been so much fun, and would have given them the room needed to explore the characters

Some of those designs were so cool, too bad they didn't use them. Also I almost screamed in the middle of my office hearing "Dwalin milk"

Tolkien’s life experience of lif coloured it . The dwarves are the miners of Wales, the West Midlands and Cornwall. Short, wide ,kind and as brave and tough as you really wouldn’t want to meet on the field of battle!🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

I liked the variation in the costumes especially for bombur, gloin, dwalin and dori. Fili looked like a young dwarf but kili and thorin looked too human

Hehe, good use of that Elijah Wood clip at the end 😁

Lol, the music during the tattoo.

Once again, a great thoroughly researched video on a topic which I think is rarely talked about, especially in such detail. It doesn't, it the slightest, make me detest the Hobbit trilogy any less, but it's very entertaining 😁 It actually highlights my impression that they pretty much disrespected the whole Dwarven race by turning most of them into gags and did the actors dirty by focusing on the comic aspects even in the visual realm instead of letting them just...you know, act. And bring some unique personality traits into their characters. Looking forward to watching the rest of this series!

[Finally got around to finishing it] -- yeah, great video. Saying they hold a very "specific" place in your heart -- yup. I remember expecting disappointment, I remember being horrified when I first heard they'd split The Hobbit into three movies... you make the behind-the-scenes footage sound more interesting than the films were. That said, I always loved the costumes, I thought PJ & crew were clearly great at visually representing pretty much every character in all the movies (except Smaug who I swear goes from being like 250ft long when Bilbo first sees him to maybe 60ft when he crashes into the water -- like what the hell), and the dwarves always stood out especially to me. My biggest dwarf-related complaint -- and it is a *very big* one to me -- is turning Gimli in LOTR into the comedic relief character, making him seem doubly ridiculous next to his buddy, the unnecessarily, absurdly, over-powererdly badass Legolas. I think back to the books, then think back to the movies at Helm's Deep, they do their little contest of who kills more orcs, and when Gimli "wins" by 1, you simply can't find it believable, since they'd allowed for such polar opposites in apparent fighting ability of the two. Oof, having Gimli be such a joke ("nobody tosses a dwarf!" in NZ where there's a weird pub tradition of... "dwarf-tossing", oh lord)... was almost as much of a crime as having Gandalf simply choose to let go and fall off the Bridge, instead of being actually dragged down like he was in the book... FFS PJ, I wish I could have been there as you made the movie just to yell at you, "what the hell are you doing?!?!" I can't even get angry at the Hobbit movies because they felt like the production was so rushed, like they weren't even trying on a lot of the stuff... although obviously they were.

I unapologetically love the trilogies

3:15 Peter Jackson would've saved alot if he used ACTUAL Dwarfs to play the Dwarves in The Hobbit and LOTR, tbh.

Fun watch and I liked the breakdown of the culture of the Dwarves and the exploration of their different costumes. I like how much thought went into a lot of their designs but you are right, some of them just don't work or get swallowed up by the fact that they tried to make everyone feel that more important than they needed to be. I still find the movies very charming and I love the relationship shown on screen between Bilbo, Thorin, Balin and Bofur - but, it just doesn't work in the whole which is a real shame because I love The Hobbit. A tale for another video as you say. It's fascinating that you mention Thorin's eyebrows as when you look at some of the early posters released for the films, his eyebrows are pretty wild and he looks like a Klingon rather than a Dwarf! I guess that might have played a factor in the changes as well. I am a big fan of Dwarves and the stories about them in Middle-earth (and Norse Mythology) so having a video exploring them like this was a lot of fun. Great watch as always.

@Jess_of_the_Shire

Жыл бұрын

I still certainly find the dwarves delightful! Even with their issues, the performances really make them a lot of fun. You can tell a lot of love went into it. And apparently they were switching up Thorin's look a ton, including having to reshoot bag-end material because they changed his makeup. So maybe the eyebrows were a reaction to previous attempts... Thanks for watching!

About Hobbit movies: in places they are actually genuinely good movies. At other times they're the kind of bad movie that you enjoy watching because they make you laugh and are entertaining in that sense

Thanks for the insight. Gotta love dwarves

The Dwarves are among my favorites. Not only are they unique, but they're also much more down-to-earth and relatable than the Elves and Men, in my opinion, probably because they were only really developed in Bilbo's story. Technically, aren't the Ents probably more unique, however? Shouldn't the Dwarves have rather similar armor to the Men of the North? I mean, Thorin once remarks, "Fathers would beg us to take their sons as apprentices, and pay us handsomely, especially in food-supplies, which we never bothered to grow or find for ourselves", and from The Peoples of Middle-Earth, we get the impression their economy relies heavily on trade. As for historical parallels, wouldn't the best ones typically be either Viking or ancient Hebrew armor? Those seem to be Tolkien's two inspirations, anyway. I would still argue it would be far more accurate to the book if they had given Bombur Bofur's role, as he is actually more or less the "nice & funny" Dwarf in the book (his conversation with Bilbo in "A Knife in the Dark" is one of my favorite scenes, but fair enough. Thank you for the video. I sometimes wonder if it would have been better to cast someone who is actually the height of a Dwarf, as that might help differentiate Gimli from the Hobbits with different proportions and be easier anyway for the filmmakers when Gimli was mostly with Men and Elves.

I like to think that Bombur's big braided loop beard was meant to evoque a string of sausages worn round his neck (maybe he has one stashed inside it 👀)

Clearly, Thorin had achieved super saiyan 3. Eyebrow mystery solved

I first saw one of your videos a week ago and have been binge watching them since. Even videos that didn't seem like they would THAT interesting, like this one, have kept me entertaintained throughout. Your amount of research and passion for the subject is enviable. As I a side note, I don't know if you do your own make-up but it is always on point.

Thanks for creating the video. I thoroughly enjoyed watching it.

while I get people want to see the dwarves in The Hobbit in armour, you gotta remember that the dwarves weren't all that rich at the time. And let's be honest, going on a hike to the other side of the continent that involves climbing mountains and what not probably isn't made any easier by being toe to toe clad in steel

I really like the idea for the last video on this series. Looking forward to it!!

Onte thing that bothers mw wit the "how can we tell them apart, they are so alike" is that basically every war-movie can pull that off without probplem. I just thinkt that wera a lazy excuse from the production team. Also, Bofur and Bombur are brothers, but Bifur is their cousin. I always forget that until i reread the book.

Yeah, the barrel scene also brings me exceeding amounts of joy. Great video. Thank you for sharing.

It's very weird that they thought a beard would get in the way of acting ability when Ian Mckellen wearing a long grey beard is featured in these movies.

Bombur, Dwalin, Gloin and Balin all looked like actual dwarves. The rest looked like regular guys dressed as dwarves. And that's generous for some (Kili, Thorin, Ori I'm looking at you).

Just a note on pronunciation, which Tolkien was very clear about. Glóin's and Óin's names have an accent over the O, which means that the two vowels are in separate syllables. Hence, they're pronounced Glo-in and O-in.

As I once heard, elves are art nouveau, dwarves are art deco.

Costume review all? Yes, please! Try to rope In Bernadette Banner, though it is not the proper century, that would be most awesome.

I just can't get over that lipstick. Looks so good. Also food containers in bombur's beard would have been so funny

I don't know what the hell is wrong with the Hobbit movies, but I saw them all (one in cinema in 48p) and I've never noticed Bifur had an axe in his head lol

I like Oin and Gloin since they have the most "classic" feeling designs. This maybe has more to do with their prosthetics and hair than outfits, but they just seem like something you would see in more Tolkien-inspired D&D art. I do also like Thorin's design a lot. Could use more beard but even as it is it is one of my favorites of the bunch.

I entirely agree that if anything Thorin, Fili, and Kili should have been more dwarfish and definitely should have been the ones with the most intricate braids (beards and hair), not the least intricate.

I've just started watching a few of your videos and I just realized this one in the background on your bookshelf. You have a memorial edition of Dune which is my absolutely favored book of all time and I have one too.

I have ways thought gimli and aragorn have the two best costumes in the trilogy because of one factor, subtlety. When I think of gimli's costume, I think bulky, heavy armor, tank like you say. But if I were to draw his costume from my mind's eye, it would look nothing like the in movie costume. He has that bulky heavy armor look but it's very subtle leaving it to a beautifully crafted helmet and some intricate shoulder guards. The same goes for aragorn. The archetype of a ranger. You think aragorn you think, cool, brooding, hood, mysterious, green, ranger. But in actuality his costume is not simple but very subtle and understated. Being a leather duster over layers of torn linen. It's fantastic. I think cosplayers greatest mistake is often not being subtle enough and going far to colorful and overstating everything. As far as the dwarven costumes for the hobbit, I think there close to horrible. 13 gimli-esque costumes would have been much better. Told apart by color and armor pieces, as well as hair color rather then these crazy hair styles.

@Jess_of_the_Shire

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I see where you're coming from, and subtlety is definitely the key, but I think that PJ was probably trying to integrate some of the more "cartoonish" elements of the hobbit. It may have misfired a bit though haha

I always felt Peter Jackson's Dwarves in the Hobbit movies were very Heavy Metal Rocker. And I did love the Dwarf shield wall assembly during the battle of the five armies: the look, the sound, and their lego brick modularity was a scream. For the sake of civility amd focus on your content, I am withholding obvious criticism on the movies themselves. I did love the dwarves, single note as they were.

Amazing video and great style!

Recently came across some of your vids. Really enjoying them. You know your stuff, and your enjoyment of the topics really comes through.

I don't find many interesting new channels but this is one of them, subbed.

I never noticed Thorin's lack of eyebrows, omg?

We don’t talk about the barrel scene.

Wow you made this topic super interesting. Great job!

Super informative and i completely understand your opinions on the lack of full personality for the dwarven company! Very good video once again :) also your outfit and makeup is beautiful!!!

@Jess_of_the_Shire

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Thank you so much!

Tolkien really didn't give filmmakers a lot to go on as far as dwarf design. Descriptions are vague, at best. However... The biggest piece of information we have on dwarves, aside from their stature, is their beards. Their long, flowing beards. Beards they have been growing their entire lives. A good portion of the dwarves in LotR and The Hobbit are of Durin's lineage. The Longbeards they were called. Thorin, Kili, and Fili were definitely Durin's folk. Longbeards. Who don't actually have long beards in the films. One of the absolutely key defining features of the race of dwarves, and Jackson just ignored it. It would be like if he decided to make hobbits 6 feet tall. "But Peter, they're called 'halflings!'" "Yeah, I know. But half of what, hmmm? Didn't think of that, did you?"

@Elora445

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Fully agree. I can forgive everything except for the beards. They are called the Longbeards for a damn reason!

Well, I always thought that Bombur looked too much like Fat Bastard.

I work at Colonial Williamsburg and the wigmakers there have told me that they are still being affected by the worldwide shortage of yak hair caused by The Hobbit trilogy production.

Jess, you're amazing, I love your content 💚

no eyebrows is aggressive, its like a bald head, says "hit my unprotected eyes, goodluck"

How does the man who directed Ian McKellen as Gandalf come to the conclusion that a beard would impede facial acting? You can practically hear his thoughts every time there's a close up, it's amazing.