DWARFS Forge - Fuse - Recycle - Profit
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Dwarves came to the consluision that trading diamonds isn't profitable enough , so they've decided to open a casino instead
@Muck006
Жыл бұрын
*Dwarfs (Warhammer specific way of writing)
@necfreon6259
Жыл бұрын
@@Muck006 yeah why specifically warhammer calling them dwarfs instead of dwarves right
@bone_zoner
Жыл бұрын
A copyright dispute iirc
@canadianeh4792
Жыл бұрын
@@necfreon6259 "Dwarves" was popularized by Tolkien. He even recognized that the correct plural of dwarf was dwarfs in the foreword to The Hobbit: "The only correct plural of Dwarf in English is Dwarfs, in this story Dwarves and Dwarvish is used but only when referring to the race that Thorin Oakenshield and his kin belong to"
@viatka1966
Жыл бұрын
If anyone were to open a casino in warhammer world it would be dwarfs, the great Altdorf Plaza held by Donni Trumpinsonn
'They've got bigger things to worry about' *Everyone screaming in panic, as Ghorst marches with his immortal zombie host*
@leorodrigues7368
Жыл бұрын
What, infantry problems? Fools! LET THE IRON DRAKES SING!
@scl9671
Жыл бұрын
Tbf not sure even Ghorsts zeds could survive a fill barrage of Irondrakes
@rumplstiltztinkerstein
Жыл бұрын
@@scl9671 Not sure. Those zombies have like 30 attack and 50 damage each. Plus a loooot of health. Plus physical resistance. So melee infantry would get hurt a lot.
@a0point0of0view1
Жыл бұрын
@@rumplstiltztinkerstein Iron Drakes would probably do very well espeically since not only do they do a lot of damage, the fire damage slows healing so they won't be able to recover as easily
@rumplstiltztinkerstein
Жыл бұрын
@@a0point0of0view1 Good point. I still think the zombies need a nerf still.
CA after 5 minutes looking at this: "Dawi won't have access to the fuse system anymore"
@tailedfox225
Жыл бұрын
I find it more likely that the items they can make from the system would get removed from the fuse system. Or they could somehow give an item made from oath gold a data tag that would prevent it from being applicable to the fuse system
@gamer_eza47
Жыл бұрын
@@tailedfox225 wouldnt it be better to adjust the reward for smelting rare items to 120 oathgold (and other rarities on the same scala), so dwarfes can change/"reforge" the magic equipment, but not generate it from thin air?
@cass7448
Жыл бұрын
@@gamer_eza47 Yeah I'd much rather they just adjust values to remove this exploit rather than apply arbitrary (likely unexplained ingame) limits.
@aprinnyonbreak1290
Жыл бұрын
Dawi no longer have access to the fuse mechanic. In an interesting development, though, all Skaven get access to a mechanic that trades food for magic items, can fuse those items, then recycle them for more food than they started with. How odd.
@Havic1137
Жыл бұрын
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 It would be the core mechanic of the new Skaven v Dawi DLC where Skaven get the new food-magic item mechanic and about 6 new cavalry, single entity, and elite infantry units The Dwarfs get a tavern keeper that has pathetic stats and can summon one unit of half-naked drunks that are less effective than zombies Edit: And then they'd nerf the dwarf unit in a week
Someone who sits for hours there and does this cycle, has all right to get some oathgold
@zacharyjackson1829
Жыл бұрын
especially considering you can do the same thing just sack farming. The only difference is doing this method gives you no exp but you also aren't passing turns
@lamezorlord
Жыл бұрын
They should also be seen by a mental health professional, because they obviously have some issues...
@adriankoch964
Жыл бұрын
The WH3 product managers need all the mechanics they can get to prop up the avg play time.
@zacharyjackson1829
Жыл бұрын
@@lamezorlord men and women spend hundreds of hours playing on minecraft worlds that will be abandoned. the most popular U.S. sport, american footballl, maims and causes long term brain damage for its players yet millions cheer on and send their kids to play the same sport in school people do what they want with their free time. as long as they are part of the first example and aren't causing problems for anyone else then who cares?
@magni5648
11 ай бұрын
I mean, at that point just fire up Cheat Engine and save yourself the time.
*They have wronged us*... by removing the original oathgold cheese. Now, this strikes a grudge out of the book.
@Mahons
Жыл бұрын
Removing a grudge without getting the grudge fulfilled that is a grudge, this is simply superior dwarven craftsmanship. So now we have 2 grudges and no grudges filled
Archaeon's 1million gold start, now Thorgrim's 1million Oathgold start.
Honestly I hope they don't remove this because with how much time it takes it feels fair to me. Work the forge get rewarded.
@enggigg6644
Жыл бұрын
They prob will dwarf players aren’t allowed to have fun yet there still are around 30 different exploits the greenskins can abuse
@rainthesomber
Жыл бұрын
@@enggigg6644 the dark elves alone had like a dozen exploits for infinite money and items because of the (in my opinion) poorly designed loyalty mechanic, yet they'll probably never touch that unless legend covers it. (Even though it is poor design I actually really like the loyalty thing though not gonna lie)
@toms3665
Жыл бұрын
@@enggigg6644 can u list these exploits in warhammer 3 ? Obviously not 30 because that was an exaggeration but I'm genuinely curious!
@michaeld9806
Жыл бұрын
@@toms3665 he wont, people just be talking shit cuz their favorite faction sucks
@toms3665
Жыл бұрын
@@michaeld9806 pssht brother don't expose me here 🤣 I was just trying to be nice in case he actually would've been able to back up his statement
As a DAWI main i love dwarfs but this is just too tedious to do over and over. But if I need just 20-30 extra oathgold i might do this
@houndofculann1793
Жыл бұрын
The essentially infinite item lottery is a lot more to my tastes than doing this for profit
@sN4xXx
Жыл бұрын
It's not about the oath gold. It's about the ability to custom outfit every dawi lord and hero with potions of healing, wardsave, bound spells, etc. Invest an hour to grind items and you are basically set for the campaign.
@calebbarnhouse496
Жыл бұрын
@@sN4xXx that's way to long when most the time you don't even need an item to win a battle
@4f52
Жыл бұрын
@@sN4xXx I mean you can just download a mod and set all their stats to 1billion so why waste a whole hour ruining the balance of your game?
@4f52
Жыл бұрын
"Ruining" cus that doesn't even win you the campaign 🙄
This should be kept in, the dwarfs forging away like that makes so much sense
@damo9961
Жыл бұрын
They take all the fun cheese out
@DaweSMF
Жыл бұрын
@@damo9961 To be fair this not cheese anymore, this is regular broken mechanic.
You could feel him trying to speed through the campaign to get the oathgold but getting caught up in actually playing it.
The legends appear to be true....EasyofTotalWar actually exists
This is fitting - it's the loot version of winning a siege by casting loads of Rune of Wrath & Ruin for half an hour.
@Trickyboy1337
Жыл бұрын
Dwarfs: they do everything you can do, but slower and worse
"Shortish video on dwarves" very funny Legend
I feel like this could be turned from an exploit into a deliberate and pretty interesting mechanic by somehow making it harder to do (or at least limited in how much it can be done per-turn), but also significantly more profitable. As an exploit, this seems kinda mediocre because of how slow it is, but the Dwarfs being able to use a combination of their unique Forge mechanic and the fusion mechanic everyone gets to create powerful magic items is an amazing idea imo.
@kurosakiichigo7475
Жыл бұрын
Why tf would they make this dumb tedious exploit a deliberate part of the game? The whole point of the forge in the first place is to give dwarfs their cool way to get magic items like lore. This dumb exploit isn't cool, you just want something that makes dawi stronger like a cheat....
@JB-xl2jc
Жыл бұрын
@@kurosakiichigo7475 Brother he literally suggested changes to make it less tedious and simply a fun flavor mechanic that centers around Dwarven crafting superiority.
@indrickboreale7381
Жыл бұрын
I mean, Dwarves are hard workers, so if player works hard they should have profit
@JB-xl2jc
Жыл бұрын
@@indrickboreale7381 Plus "overpowered" but flavorful mechanics are fun and make the play feel unique- and if every race has something that plays to their strengths and feels OP, then it's fun AND fairly balanced
@JB-xl2jc
Жыл бұрын
@@indrickboreale7381 Also, SPESS MEHREENS
Imagine this in a co-op campaign when your friend is taking too long to decide what to build
I remember that old Dwarf oathgold cheese you posted years ago. Then that cheese got removed. Wonder if the same thing will happen to this as well.
@kilercola
Жыл бұрын
Yes because CA dont want you to have fun.
@letsplaysvonaja1714
Жыл бұрын
I doubt it The efficiency is too bad You need two identical types of items, so there's a good chance for dupes and even when you get what you want you make a mere 10 oathgold profit
@fonariuz141
Жыл бұрын
@@letsplaysvonaja1714 is a very easy fix though, just lowered the oathgold by 10 for the recycle
@letsplaysvonaja1714
Жыл бұрын
@@fonariuz141 which still wouldn't fix the main part of the exploit, namely that you get to reroll infinitely until you merge stuff into the item you want
@TheWhiteStar666
Жыл бұрын
It wasn't really a cheese, it was just bug needed to be fix
Whoever decides that its worth his time to make such a grind to gain 10 Oathgold should get it, if you ask me.
@calebbarnhouse496
Жыл бұрын
It's definitely worth it so long as you only need a little bit to deck out someone that needs items, but really the forge system as a whole is pretty much worth ignoring just because by the time you get items that make any difference to your guys your getting to many guys to deck out and so it kinda becomes well who might need to be stronger, but if your playing the dwarfs right it'll be none of em cause it's really easy to get enough guns that anything except the most unlikely of scenarios will stop you
@indrickboreale7381
Жыл бұрын
It's worth on Legendary Diff
@gbereznyakov1
Жыл бұрын
@@calebbarnhouse496 you can instantly switch items between characters now, so the amount of characters to deck out isn't that big of a deal
@calebbarnhouse496
Жыл бұрын
@@gbereznyakov1 the issue isn't turn time it's the time to actually do it, it takes a long time to actually build something, cause the animation can't be skipped and it kicks you out of the menu, if you were able to quickly build 10 items it'd be worth it to mess around with, instead it's not
@mrbouncelol
Жыл бұрын
@@calebbarnhouse496 Agreed, the animation drives me fucking INSANE, it was the same with Rites in TWW2 and you hardly ever do rites but still, why the FUCK is this animation unskippable
5 min after legend post this some CA programmer gets some urgent work order.
@madzaisa
Жыл бұрын
It's really not that big of a deal, IMO.
@kalle19
Жыл бұрын
@@madzaisa Nope, but most of WH3 seems to be a patch to thwart all of Legends cheat sorry means cheese.
Hey EasyofTotalWar, love your videos, keep em coming!
There is a easy fix that also buff dwarf at the same time: make green and blue items cost less gold to forge while also recycle for less. Green item should cost 60 oath gold and recycle for 40. Blue item cost 120 oath gold to forge and recycle for 80.
@RJWhitmore
Жыл бұрын
Easier fix is just to price blue items at 180, as then they return for 120 so no profit. Being able to get the item you wanted feels like the whole point of the forge, so that part is fine (and yet still requires considerable time and patience).
5:21 for the start of the Forge, you need 120 oathgold
@Tutel0093
Жыл бұрын
Ty for the skip
@fhemeiatha7814
Жыл бұрын
wtf man skinping legends video heracy :)
@kane-111
Жыл бұрын
@@Tutel0093 Purge this heretic
@Tutel0093
Жыл бұрын
@@kane-111 @Fhemeia Tha cheesing the cheeser
I love this! These are my favorite kind(s) of exploits, where they aren't based on a bug in the game, and also require time investment so it isn't always worth it to even do. Just makes for something fun to mess around with.
LegendofEasyWar at it again with the 'little bit of a trick here'.
I like that I got an ad for cheese before watching this video 😁. It shouldn't be to hard for someone to make a macro that'd make this less tedious.
This looks like a ironsmith simulator. The true thing that every dwarf main should enjoy! For Karaz-Ancor!
And now that you made this Video, CA is gonna adjust the numbers. Great. Good job on getting the BETA closer to the finished product. XD
always love the cheese keep it up man
FINALLY! I have been looking for info on the dwarves and tomb kings if they can still use the fuse mechanic. Going to have so many items for them Also thorek ironbrow is going to he broken on this because he does all of it for half the cost
While Grimgor's away, the dwarfs will play.
"we're doing a short-ish video on the dwar-" GRUDGE
LegendofAutoResolve here, with another benefit of Auto Resolving early game.
When you realize, the Dawi has just invented UPcycling :D
Yes this action settles my grudges
Unintended Consequences is the working title for Immortal Empires.
Definitely doing this day one to stack a campaign for dwarfs!
Thanks for the video
Jo this is the perfect example for an exercise in an algorithm course where we teach Eulerian paths with arbitrage as an example
The Dawi federal reserve keeps printing items, art imitates life
rise and grind dawi
_"Shortish_ video on the dwarfs" *B O O K*
"Hey I've seen this one!" "What you mean you've seen this one? Is brand new"
Haha, man, you love to break the game. I specifically try to play it as fair as possible as I can win with control and tactics, not exploits. But the fact that you can find the opportunities to do so is commendable. Useful :)
okoii must do a mod with the glasses from the thumbnail. they fit perfectly
Oathgold cheese, an old classic. Nice one
If CA does patch this before all the other stuff they have to adress, then it will go in the book. On a sidenote I am looking forward doing this in my head to head campaign. I guess I will just ask my cousin to do something else while I am out there doing this.
@aprinnyonbreak1290
Жыл бұрын
Horrendous pathfinding, surreal bugs, units humping the ground, units still controlling like tar, the AI is AFK until they can delete a mage in .5 seconds: I sleep Players having fun in a single player mode in an unintentional way: *REAL SHIT*
@TheBoxGhost_tm
Жыл бұрын
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 My favorite is units rounding corners in settlement battles in single file.
Was thinking about this, thus why I'm keen on a grombrindal campaign more then most other races
Let's be honest fellas, if you are willing to scrape these oathgolds 10 at a process.. you deserve them.. if you want to put yourself through it, you should not be stopped, that is soem dedication
*"Shortish* video on the dwarfs" THAT'S GOING IN THE BOOK, UMGI
Already LOTW cheeses! 😂😂😂 I love it!
Riding this Dwarven road to gold baby!! Here we GO! haha
Spiffing Brit loves this XD
Would love to see a best to worst item list done for armour, weapons, talismans etc
a 'SHORT'ish video about the Dwarves. That's a grudgin'
This feels like one of those if you are willing to put the effort in you deserve the tiny amount of gains. Its not much of a boost (as far as exploits go) and takes a good amount of time. I do have a feeling this is one of those easy enough to fix that it will go away not all that far from now.
LEGEND PLAYING ON EASY?! THE END TIMES ARE UPON US! *FLY, YOU FOOLS* ! Great vid, by the way.
I actually think that this can just stay as it is, because this is waaaay to much work, time and effort to actually squeeze a lot of oathgold from, but you can get some nice items wheneever you want which is quite thematic for the mining BOYS :D
just this once, you will not be going in the book /s dwarfs are my favourite to play so this is going to be quite helpful
That’s a great method for some great items early game.
Very helpful.
Small forge gambling. Love that idea!
EasyOfTotalWar can become a series of ungodly amounts of early cheese for new players can get into the game, and eventually become Legends
Scandal in Karaz-a-Karak! Turns out they were mining cheese!
"PROFIT BAYBEE!"
Rune smiths and weapon forgers gonna make a union about this.
Should've waited till release with this video Legend ... 😑
Thanks
10 oath gold for you, 10 oath gold for you, everyone gets 10 oath gold!
The house always win. Hence the dwarfs will open a casino and win the Warhammer blackjack tournament again and again. The only way they will beat the Skaven!
Oh hey, I'm pretty sure I asked that a few months back, glad to know that I was correct in my assumption
I've found a potential research speed exploit for Dwarves. Ancestral Blood - Grungni gives 5% research speed even after you hire and disband them. It takes a while to get the numbers up there at 5% each, but given enough time and luck you can fly through the research tree much faster.
Stonks
Spend time to generate powerfull runic items. This is a real dwarf mechanic
that one legendary lord that don't even need to use oath gold to make stuff and sell them for money.
Feels thematic that the most craft-proficient race gets the best items early.
As much as I play the Dwarves, I can't believe I never thought about this particular gameplay loop. I'm kinda mad at myself actually lol
! Ha! A short video on the dwarfs
You can also generate an infinite amount of actual GOLD, because salvaging generates money, and doing this for long enough let's you salvage and item once in a while and still get more Oathgold than you put in
I like the RP of this.
I know where that thumbnail is from lol
275 Factions on the end of turn 1! wow!
YES YES ! Now the Skaven peoples want you to do a 10 hour livestream farming and CHEESING that ! Yes Yes ! Skaven Smart !
Another sweet cheese!
We can definitely expect a "fix" from CA for that. :D
good dawi
I will absolutely do this at the start of my Dwarf Campaign and sink hours into this Oathgold cheese. But only on my first Dwarf Campaign lol.
Do you plan to cover high-elf Econ changes?
Dwarf magic
this is like one of those trading gurus on the internet, but instead if scamming you, he actually make you a bit of profit
CA: WHAT? Dwarfs are too strong with this, NO MORE FUSING
Dawi Casino for the Dawi!
Profit is profit
called it
I cant wait for beastmen
alot of times exploits or something like this suck. but this one actually makes sense and is very thematic for the dwarves. i kinda hope it stays in. if not i hope they just limit the amount of times you can forge in one turn
@shigerufan1
Жыл бұрын
Easiest fix is raising the 30% recycling penalty to 40 or 50, which makes it so only purple items or higher are worth recycling indefinitely.
Cheese for The Cheese Lord
This is how dwarf inflation happen.
PROFIT BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Weird to not see snow at the dawi start position
I like it. Dwarves are renown crafters. They should be selling their craftsmanship. Now only if you could do this in co op MP to other players.
dude you are great😂