brought one of those harbor freight systems home last night, and i am very glad youtube decided i should see this video today before i started setting up. thank goodness i sat on my butt watching vids for a bit before getting to work. procrastination pays. THANK YOU!

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

I try to make my videos where you have enough info to build one for you self. If you have any issues let me know and I will try to help as much as possible. Several people wanted to know more about the wiring. I just uploaded a video with a better look at the wiring and how I mount my piping.

20:54 “nothing is coming out” as a big plume of dust blows back into the shop.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Yes, there is a small amount that can get through if you dump a lot in at once. I could have cut that out of the video but chose to leave it in. The whole system was not complete. This video just shows how to convert from the bag to the barrel. My planer puts out more chips than any other tool. With it or any other tool, including my table saw and miter saw, they don't put out that large surge of saw dust. Also shown in my other video that this is vented outside. There are systems for $1000 + that will do a much better job. For $200, I was able to hard pipe all my tools. I get 0 dust in my shop. It takes 10 minutes to dump 50 gallons of saw dust. I have dumped almost enough saw dust in the last year it would have filled my shop from floor to ceiling. I use my system every day, and I am happy with it. I am sure many people would not be. This is there if you want to use it or not. I do appreciate the feedback. Thanks.

@rdot980

Жыл бұрын

Yea. You should still have a filter on the exhaust for ultra-fine dust.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

I have it exhausting outside. I am going to add a filter to save some A/C during the summer.

I like the white barrel and light idea, might have to use that.

@ShopRamblings

10 күн бұрын

I want to move my collector outside. I know if I do, I will forget to check it. This definitely helps keep me from over filling it.

I literally just bought this motor setup and I just went and built this in my shop in under two hours. I even managed to simplify it (ugly) and it totally worked. I cut a two foot by 4 ft plywood in half. Then I cut the thien baffle and siliconed it to the ring. Then I cut a smaller hole in the second plywood and and silicone that to the impeller intake... Stacked them on top of a garbage can and the weight from the motor held it all down I clamp it in place for vibrations... but instant dust collection upgrade..... One sheet 2x4 x3/4-in plywood is all you need. I'll have to fine-tune it a little bit, for looks, and I'll add some weather stripping and an outlet filter or aim it outside to cope with any leaks and find dust, but it absolutely worked. this idea was brilliant and easier to set up than the convoluted bag system that i didn't even try to do. You saved me so much space absolutely brilliant I can't believe they practically give you a cyclone system and want you to set it up in that ridiculous way.

@ShopRamblings

10 ай бұрын

I know. They have all the parts there. It is just configured wrong, and everyone copied the same system. I would make an upgrade kit and sell, but they are not all the same size.

@ExpiredToast11

10 ай бұрын

@@ShopRamblings patent this!

Great idea! I'd vent that exhaust outside though as the dust that damages your lungs is flying out of that exhaust in vast quantities. But you can't see it. That's the dangerous stuff, not the fine sawdust.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

I do have mine vented outside. I used a 6" dryer vent.

Hey, that was probably the most complete ,non science ,but just this is how it's built, "Thien"baffle video on KZread. No joke, I've been watching these videos for about 6 years. Thanks. Exhaust the rest of the sawdust out the building ,if your friend can , it will be very efficient. Thanks again!

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

That is what I do. I just stuck up a quick video yesterday about wiring and I did a quick tour of my system. You can see the exhaust going out the wall. The only time I have ever notice dust on the outside vent was when I overflowed the barrel.

@ginoasci2876

Жыл бұрын

same here. i’ve been watching for six years lololol id put the whole system outside inside it’s own little shed attached to the building with one 6” hole connecting everything so you don’t have to listen to any noise. or have a dust collection room built right outside attached to the building and this big noisy and dirty contraption in there with a door separating it. of course it had to be big enough to walk in there and move around so it’ll have to be the size of a small shed. and of course you’ll end up using it for some storage as well. but the point is that it will eliminate 90% of the noise. the exhaust port like you mentioned can exit thru the shed wall straight to the outside world so the neighbors can enjoy the music coming from the motor LOL. fk them, they are arse holes anyway. lol with all these designs i’m thinking that the thein portion of the baffle, the intake part of this thing can be twice o even three times the height to help prevent the dust from going back into the motor or the vacuum, which ever is used for suction. the fine dust always seems to make its way back to the filter or the exhaust. (the part you suggested to put thru the wall) so if there’s more distant it might not come back thru…..just a thought, not sure how it would perform. i like this system this guy has here. he did a nice job building it, and it’s solid. looks like 5” ports, if not 6”. did you build one yet? if yes, do you have a video on it ? a video will be good even if it’s all done. no need to go thru the process.

Great build and I appreciate your style of video-making!

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

I am glad to hear that. I have been wondering if people prefer entertainment to information.

Simple but effective. Love it! Saved for later. I think I will build one of these when I get there. Thanks for the video.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

I was looking back at some photos from a few years ago. There was saw dust in every drawer, on every shelf. Now I even dust off the lights. It I so easy when 95% of the mess disappears before you even see it.

Sweet design & quality work! Thank you!

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like it.

What a great video and build. I just built a copy of yours, and damn you were right about the MilesCraft circle jig. Made the build fun. Usually a total nightmare getting good circles. Thanks!

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

I bought an extra router just to keep on the Milescraft base. I have built several circle cutters in the past. This, by far, is the best and most economical.

Nice build! I appreciate your mentioning where things aren't necessary, and that light!

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

After overflowing the barrel I added the light. It makes it so much easier to see how much room you have.

I have watched many different how to videos on doing this and I think yours is the best one. Everyone else makes a grove for the wood to sit on the barrel and silicones it down. This is awesome! I plan to do this to make a big shop vac in my repair shop to clean the floors instead of sweeping and stirring up the dust

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

I like to make things simple.

@ExpiredToast11

10 ай бұрын

You can get away with even simpler!

Great video. You did a good job explaining the project. I watched it several times as I checked to see that I did it correctly. I appreciate you taking the time to put this video together.

@ShopRamblings

4 ай бұрын

I'm glad it helped. If you have any questions, email me.

Love watching you work.

@ShopRamblings

5 ай бұрын

Thank you!

I’m so glad you did end up filming this content. I have the same system that’s made here in Australia from carbatec and the bag on top is a nightmare to clean I was going to put a cyclone on it and bypass it all together but I’m loving your set up a lot better so thanks for changing your mind and throwing it out on KZread it’s a game changer and so worth a sub

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I have been using mine for about 1 1/2 years now. This was one we built at a friend's shop. It has been a game changer for my shop. I can work all day. At the end of the day the little bit of saw dust that is around can be swept into the floor sweep in a few minutes. When I come in the next morning to a clean shop gets me motivated to work where as before I would be ankle deep in saw dust. The automatic on/off system I rigged up has worked great but is a little jerry-rigged looking. Not sure if it was going to work used what I had laying around and the cheapest parts for the rest. I have ordered new switches and relays. I plan on rewiring everything, making it look professional. I will film it and post it soon.

@ginoasci2876

Жыл бұрын

so worth a sub? what’s a sandwich got to do with anything? that’s what we call a long sandwich in new england. sub

@bradleytuckwell4881

Жыл бұрын

@@ginoasci2876 🤣🤣 We say sub to but only when where going to subway for a foot long sandwich

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

As a fat guy I would appreciate a sub. 😀 Either kind!

What a great video! i have been using the dust stopper from HD and looking to upgrade my dust collection. this is the way im going to go. i like how compact it is and doesn't take up too much shop space as I'm in a 20x20 garage. Subscribed

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Nicely done, from one 'maker' to another!

@ShopRamblings

2 ай бұрын

That means alot. Thanks

So cool simple and it just works!

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

It has completely changed my shop.

Awesome. Best HF conversion I’ve seen. Great video, great design and build. Thanks!

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

👍

@propatriabellum

Жыл бұрын

I don’t know how to post a video or pics, but I tested the system with a carefully-measured 2000ml of sawdust. I put a filter bag over the exhaust. Vacuumed up the saw dust, and measured the dust in the barrel. 2000ml. The filter bag was nearly spotless. A few tiny flecks. Amazing. Thanks again.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

I am glad you posted. I just had to dump my barrel again yesterday. It has been one of those things that has completely changed my shop. I hope one day to have time to build automatic blast gates with induction triggers.

That's a very excellent review of this system---You built ---your a natural at this ------kudos

@ShopRamblings

5 ай бұрын

I am not a natural, but i am trying to improve. A two day project can take me 2 months when filming.

Great design; build; and excellent Craftsmanship! Well done!

@ShopRamblings

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!!!

Excellent idea and workmanship. Thank you! I've been thinking of installing a dust collection system in my shop - this is it.

@ShopRamblings

4 ай бұрын

You will definitely be glad you did

Great build and the video quality is excellent. Even I can follow your instructions. It's now on my To-Do List. Thanks! Oh yeah, also subscribed.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I hate after watching a video, wanting to build it but not have enough info to do it. I try to give the needed info without making the video too long. If you run into issues ask and I will try and help.

Thanks for posting. Best one yet.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment.

I love what you built , very innovative. I'm just trying to follow the flow from the intake through the baffles and how air moves .Thanks for sharing

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

The air comes in the steel round container where it always came in above the bag. The original setup above the the steel plate was the previous bag filter and coming out of the bottom was the clear plastic bag. The barrel takes the place of the clear plastic bag. The thine baffle is on top of the barrel. So the air comes in and flows in a circular motion in between the thine baffle and the steel plate. The slit in the baffle lets the heavier particles fall down through the inch and a half slit and into the barrel while the air flows up past the still plate into the motor and then out the exhaust. If you any additional help let me know.

Nice solution to your dust problem. Well done!

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

I like this.

@ShopRamblings

4 ай бұрын

Thanks

Thanks. I have three plastic barrels. That is on my to-do list. You saved me some time. Thanks.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Glad to help

This is the gold standard video for dust collection upgrade with the HF / WEN dust collectors. Great video and appreciate all the detail about what issues you might see. I have stopped looking for more videos.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

If you run into any problems, I will be glad to try and help.

This is an excellent design and I'm definately going to use this to improve my dust collection. You made it easy to understand and showed all the necessary steps. Thanks for sharing your video!

@ShopRamblings

3 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! I have a couple of more videos answering the most common questions I receive. If you run into an problems Let me know and I will try and help.

Nice job! I got a little laugh seeing your router power cable getting shorter with the rotations lol, I like that jig.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I hate cords, but some tools work better with them.

This is so great! Thank you!

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

I shot a new video of the wiring and piping. I used a new camera and it didn't come out the best but I hope to get it edited and uploaded this week.

Best Harbor freight dust collector modification video and build. I did this build today and it works amazing, no more shop vac dust collector. Thank you for the video it saved me a lot of money. The only modifications I made was adding a 1 micron bag to the exhaust.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

I am glad it worked for you. The filter is good if it vents inside. I have mine venting outside but may add a filter to save some ac in the summer.

Really nicely done!

@ShopRamblings

5 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

Did this a few years ago and still love it. I upgraded the impeller and boxed the top in to make it quieter and exhaust going outside ..... Good video!

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. It is amazing at the difference having dust collection makes.

What a fantastic job idea for all of us to apply for ourselves. Thank you for sharing how to do the same thing.😁😁😁

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Thank You! That was Awesome!!!😇😁😁

@ShopRamblings

4 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Thanks for the info in this, using it for inspiration on my build. All I have is a blower that was scrapped from another application. Repurposing that instead of starting with an expensive dust collector.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

I was going to stop by an AC company to see if I could get a blower from a central ac unit. They normally sell the ones they take out for scrap. Then I saw the one I got on market place for $75. It should not be hard to modify it.

Great video 👍 Thank you for making it

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

Great video. I wish I had seen this 6 months ago!

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Sorry I did not upload it sooner

@JLang-bn3hs

Жыл бұрын

@@ShopRamblings you did good. I have a good system, just could have saved a few bucks. 😁

It's funny how KZread works when just yesterday I went and emptied the bag on my Harbor Freight unit. Putting that plastic bag back on was a little tricky, and I was thinking to myself there has to be a better way doing this! Then low and behold your video pops up on my feed addressing that issue! I need something else better than what HF has going on. Thanks for sharing this build. I am going to try it out when I find the time.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Google is always listening. It must of heard you arguing with the bag. I had to empty mine yesterday. It took about 30 seconds to pull the barrel out and about the same to put it back in without spilling a single piece of dust or any cussing. If you run into any problems let me know and I will be glad to help if I can.

@tazytka

Жыл бұрын

@@ShopRamblings Thanks! I have already made 2 smaller thien baffle versions using a shop vac and the other a old upright vacuum. I bought the HF dust collector because of the 20% off coupon. I wasn't sure how it would work until watching your video. Thanks for posting that, I'll use it for referencing when I get around to building it.

Loved your video , so detailed and exact. Ive been planning to ad a super dust deputy to my delta two bagger but now plan to build your upgrade instead. It would be useful for someone to do a performance test compairing the two some day. But the cost advantage is definitely a plus in my book. You can always exaust it outside if fine dust is a concern. Us" mere mortals "like Steve Ramsey dont have hvac in our garages.😊

@ShopRamblings

5 ай бұрын

It looks like the super Dust Deputy does about the same thing as the baffle. It would be easier and quicker to add the Dust Deputy. But for me, who doesn't have a lot of money, I would prefer to spend a little time and a sheet of plywood, then spend $269 for a premade system. Depending on what you value your time as and whether or not you enjoy building your own tools, would decide which one would be the better option.

@bennyhill3642

4 ай бұрын

ROFL If my fan still works? Im happy as a Lark😇😁

Great build!

@ShopRamblings

9 ай бұрын

Thanks!

love this one i have the same bag filter/disaster, love hw this re-uses the original parts and basically just create discs.

@ShopRamblings

7 ай бұрын

It is night and day difference for the cost of a sheet of plywood.

@georgelza

7 ай бұрын

@@ShopRamblings my pet beef is that obstacle blocked before the fan getting blocked every 2 min when i'm plaining. it's my next project/todo.

@ShopRamblings

7 ай бұрын

@georgelza here is a video of me running the planer. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fHakktuIoKy_d7Q.htmlsi=ZhZzRtpvZ-qhLJFm I also have floor sweeps installed. There are pieces of sand paper and plastic in the barrel all the time. I never understood why they wanted everything to run through the impeller.

Just found your channel; really like your videos!

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I am still bad at making videos but I try to put good information them.

Greetings from One Handed Maker Nice project and well built. Anything to reduce dust is well worth the time and money!

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I remember the days when my shop floor looked like a horse stable. Now I hate to drill a hole with a hand drill as it is one of my few tools without dust collection. I do have 2 floor sweeps. I feel like a clean organized shop make me want to higher quality work.

Thanks, new subscriber that was exactly the video I was looking for

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub!

Good job. I like how you built yours.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Awesome video I just starting to do wood working. I’m planning to buy a dust collection from HarborFreight. I’m going to do this and yes I’m adding a filter to it I saw your other video on that to. Thank you

@ShopRamblings

10 ай бұрын

Are you in Central Florida? I am always updating tools. I would rather give them the old ones to someone starting out than sell them. If you have any questions, ask. If I can, I will be glad to help. Most things are easy to accomplish. The hardest part is finding the proper tool or material.

Bro you are genius....!! ....I am going to utilize your way in my workshop ....in behalf of my self and my colleagues...thank you ❤❤

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Most welcome 😊

Well done. Feels like that’s a lot of mucking about.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Great design!

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Great video. My challenge will try and accomplish it with less circles. Wish me luck. But love the fact you really in refine detail work.

@ShopRamblings

5 ай бұрын

Thanks. I am sure you will figure it out.

Great build, I made something similar but not as refined. I took a shop vac and one of those plastic barrels, cut the plywoon and inserted like he did. I sealed off the shop vac hose inlet, and connected the vac to the plywood cover and ran a 2"pvc from the barrel to the vac tank. Then made an adapter to "swirl" the incoming air in the barrel. With little room in my shop, it's on wheels and moved to the needed machine. Shop vac came from an auction for $5 most PVC I already had so the whole thing was pretty cheap. Works good, heavy dust and particles collect in the barrel, finer dust (and not a lot of that) is caught by the vac filter. The biggest drawback is it can't keep up with my bench planner so I made a "passive" barrel for that which the planner output 'powers'.

@ShopRamblings

4 ай бұрын

Your system sounds like it works great. I had tested a miter with a shop vac and then a dust collector. The dust collector makes a huge difference. I was lucky enough to find one in like new condition for $80 on marketplace.

Great job!

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

I built my own version with a 25 gallon metal barrel and it works great.

@ShopRamblings

2 ай бұрын

I am glad it worked for you. That is the whole idea, to make something that works for your situation.

Just got done making this. It works GREAT, just need a small filter for the exhaust.

@ShopRamblings

11 ай бұрын

I have I filter I bought months ago. I just haven't had a chance to hook it up. For now, I just have the exhaust venting outside.

this is one of the best and clearest video on the process of building a Then dust collector. I will be interested to see how you will incorporate a dust filter to pick up the fine particules.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

I have the filter. I just haven't had time to build a box for it. It should be easy. I just want to flow test the system before and after the see how much it affects the system.

@robstrawn9170

Жыл бұрын

Can you send me a link for the filter you got so I can get one also

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

amzn.to/3AVHiBI

@terrylane9570

8 ай бұрын

Isn't that a truck filter, built for air flowing the OPPOSITE direction (out-to-in)?

Damn good idea.👍

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

nice video I'll have to make some modifications to my system but will vent the outlet from the blower outside just to stop the very tiny particle from being blown into the shop.

@ShopRamblings

4 ай бұрын

I did mine like that for a couple of years.

Thanks for this. Wanting to start this project next week. I’d love to see a video on your micro switches that turn the system on when a blast gate is open. I’ve never seen that or even heard of that method. I’d like to implement that for sure.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Let me know what if this helps kzread.info/dash/bejne/gKJqrpOEcq6dg84.html

One of the best I have ever seen. U need to attach a filter on the exhaust port. WIll make this thing even more efficient. Great job.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

I put a 6in dryer vent through the wall and connected the exhaust to it. The only time I have seen any dust around it was when I let the barrel over fill.

@marklongchamps6741

Жыл бұрын

@@ShopRamblings oooo that is the best way to do it. Unless you have snow where u live like me. then you gotta get a canister filter.

@chuckg4910

Жыл бұрын

@@ShopRamblings Look closely around 20:53, you can see a batch of sawdust come out the exhaust. If vented inside, post filtering is a must.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

I just posted this video yesterday. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fHakktuIoKy_d7Q.html

I wish you were my neighbor. I do tons of woodworking but that “router” - well, scared to death about that tool. I used it once and it just took off on me. Never used it again. 😔 After watching this video, I’m headed to lowes to pick one of these up. It’s my own Christmas present. I’m so excited, my mind is rolling with all the items I can create!

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

The router is definitely a tool to respect. I have a bit that scares me a little and that takes a lot. It looks like a helical jointer that chucks up in a router. Maybe I will put out a short video on it.

Did several yrs ago! Def. worth the effort!! I used a flex hose between the fan blade and make shift drum seproator. In that way you can just lift the lid up off the drum rathere than screw together. I think its time to build a new one for me.

@ShopRamblings

2 ай бұрын

I have mine mounted so that it is a perfect fit when I slide in the barrel. I don't use the screws an y more. I just slide it in and it make an air tight fit.

Nice System.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

The one in my shop has been one of the best improvements I have made.

What a great video thanks for sharing I have subscribed and hit the bell cheers

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate it.

A BIG THANKS

@ShopRamblings

9 ай бұрын

You are welcome.

I have the @milescraft jig and it works fantastic. Great build!

@ShopRamblings

4 ай бұрын

Thanks

nice puff of fine dust coming back at you through the exhaust at 20:52

@ShopRamblings

10 ай бұрын

Thanks

This is awesome! I have the HF collector and last week I almost spent $235 for a canister filter to replace the useless bag filter. I'm so glad I didn't! I have everything I need (including that exact router jig) to do this, except for the drum. Those are easy to get. It looks like a fun project.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

It has worked great for me. I hope it works as well for you.

@robert_7258

5 ай бұрын

Same here. But i needed something that wasn’t as tall but just as effective. This video top notch

very clever!!

@ShopRamblings

5 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

That was a great idea. I did the same about 15-years ago, but have to add a cautionary note. The centrifugal style separators, which the Thien baffle is, does not remove small particulates. Like less than 40-micron. And these are the most dangerous. I personally added a Wynn filter to remove the small particulates after the fan. Your choice.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

I just have mine exhausting outside. I may add a filter later to help keep the ac inside.

Love the video

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Happy belated birthday, brother

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Thanls

That’s great setup. I had made a THEIN dust separator sitting on top of a 40 gallon plastic trash can. The dust is drawn thru the THEIN before the vacuum filter. It sure has increased the life of the vac filters. Most all is in the trash can below the THEIN. And the THEIN is made from clear poly. I can watch the THEIN in action.

@ShopRamblings

4 ай бұрын

Sounds like a great system.

@bruceyoung1343

4 ай бұрын

@@ShopRamblings if I could put a picture of it on here , I woyld

@ShopRamblings

4 ай бұрын

I have always stay with that pictures be posted in the comments several times

@bruceyoung1343

4 ай бұрын

@@ShopRamblings but no Paste when I try copy / paste

Great video. I like your design because it's so compact. Did you notice any hit to suction or CFM?

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

When I built mine over a year ago I bought an anemometer to see. I can't find the original video to give exact number. The system at the intake had no discernable difference. I used 4" piping to run through my shop. The longest run with the most turn had a small but unnoticeable without the meter drop flow. I am a one man shop so I normally only use one tool at a time, I only get I significant drop with 3 or more blast gates opened at once.

I’m not sure, but I think I was bothered more by you, messing with the power cord than you probably were and probably not even thinking about it. I was like, good Lord, get a bungee cord and put it overhead as a tool balancer. 😊 Good video and great upgrade. CHEERS

@ShopRamblings

3 ай бұрын

I was in my brother in laws shop. I was not used to his setup, but we got the job done. Thanks for watching.

I love this build and was lucky enough to pick up a very slightly used collector just like the one you’re building around. I’m in the process of finding a barrel now but my question is do you use a 50 gallon or 55 gallon barrel. I heard you say 55 but all I seem to be finding are 50 gallons. Thanks so much 👍

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

It does not matter. That is why I showed how I measured instead of giving measurements.

@Prancedaman

Жыл бұрын

@@ShopRamblings thank you

“And as you look to the left at the exhaust there’s hardly any sawdust coming out” as a stream of sawdust blows out 😅

@ShopRamblings

3 ай бұрын

I am glad you liked that. I could have edited that out but I try to be real in my videos. Yes, if I take a box of saw dust that took an hour of sawing to create and suck it up in 2 seconds without a filter some will make it through the baffle. I have another video with an air monitor running while planning. That makes the most sawdust the fastest in my shop. I also have a video adding a filter to catch any that makes it through. I have since added and air monitor logger that send me notifications of poor air quality. The air quality in my shop on average is better than most office buildings so for me I am happy with it but this is not the only thing that keeps my air clean. It is just part of a system.

I have this HF dust collector from my old 20'X20' garage shop. My new shop is unfortunately MUCH smaller at only 8'X12', so I had no idea how I'd even be able to use my old dust collector. I'm in Phoenix, so I just worked outdoors during the cool months and didn't do any woodworking over summer. This is a great solution that could open up 5 more months of woodworking for me! Thanks! Do you have a video of how you vented the exhaust outside? I'll probably do the same.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

I have posted a couple of videos trying to answer questions. I believe one of the videos showing the switches I showed it going to the outside. It is just a 6in vent mounted through the wall.

@pauleford

Жыл бұрын

@@ShopRamblings Thanks! I just found your channel today and I can't stop watching. Haha!

I have a similar system, fine dust particles will still leave the exhaust, it only separates the chips from the dust. For best results I would reuse that dust filtration bag and attach it to the exaust. Besides that it’s a very clean re-purpose of the system 👍🏽

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info. I have mine blowing outside. Another viewer had commented that I didn't want to vent outside as it would remove the heating. I am in Florida so I am not worried about losing heat but if I added a filter and recycled the air it my lower my AC cost. He recommend a economical filter. I am trying to find a flow rate on it. I have it on my list to add a filter system before next summer.

@johnterdik4707

Жыл бұрын

@@ShopRamblings If you live in a cold climate area you will draw a lot of air from the outside and it will be very noticeable in the winter.

@timkarcher6724

Жыл бұрын

Never use the bag........it is worthless......the most dangerous fine dust goes right through it. Exhausting outside is the safest otherwise buy a cartridge filter in then one or two micron range.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

Looks nice... My "dust collection" is to just periodically open the garage door and use a leaf blower... :)

@ShopRamblings

4 ай бұрын

I had one of those for several years.

that light idea !!!!

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

I thought I could tell the level. Then I noticed dust on the exhaust vent. I had cut some dark wood and the it filled up with lighter wood on top. It looked like there was still room but I was seeing the line of dark wood and the barrel was over flowing. Luckily I had used the white barrel so it was easy to add a light.

@davebuchanan9761

Жыл бұрын

@@ShopRamblings awesome !! thanks!!

good video

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Great dist recovery system. What did you use for an exhaust dust collection? I did not see a "bag" gravity system at the end. thanks

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

I am in Florida, so I don't have to worry about heat recovery. I run it out through the wall.

Well done! How you like that Milecraft jig? For those containers, mesure the bottom to get the right circ.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

The only problem is the bottom is rounded in and the top has I lip that is flared out.

I love the compactness of this setup. I would like to know the comparison of a separator vs cyclone vs Thien baffle. I use a separator which has a large suction loss and double the footprint. I’m hesitant to fork out the coin for a cyclone. Has anyone out there tried all three systems?

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

It is my understanding that the thien baffle works similarly to the cyclone. I bought an anemometer when I built mine and there was no difference in suction that I could measure.

Great build and video, thanks. Your motor is mounted on top of the Thien Baffle, which makes sense for the direction of airflow, but are the bearings on the electric motor shaft able to take the downward loading? Are the bearings on the motor shaft, thrust bearings?

@ShopRamblings

7 ай бұрын

I am not sure what bearing it has. It takes a puller to remove the impeller, and several have damaged it trying to remove it. I know a lot of people have theirs mounted this way. I have never heard of anyone having a problem mounting it this way. You can always get the extended warranty if you are worried about it.

Awesome video and straightforward info. And thank's for not playing music !. I'm planning to build one myself but have a question. Can You describe the exact orientation of the baffle towards the suction port. The video is very fast when You attach the barrel to the suction system in the end of video.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

I will try to explain but if it is not clear let me know and I will try to shot a quick video on it. Picture a clock face as the baffle. Your 270⁰ grove is cut starting at the top, 12 O'clock. It would end at 9 O'clock. If the "clock" was hanging on the wall. The suction would be coming straight down from the ceiling entering between 9 and 10 O'clock.

@hakanhallberg8570

Жыл бұрын

Thank's. Got it!

Great build simple as but a question as I create a ton of dust how does it handle loads of fine dust 240 grit sanding . Cheers

@ShopRamblings

9 ай бұрын

I had my exhaust run outside. I have never seen any build-up. I recently added a filter to the exhaust, I have a video on it. I was surprised at how much fine dust it caught. I have an air quality meter in the shop. If you mainly want to catch sanding dust, this is not what I would do. It will work but is ex pensive and overkill. For sanding, I have a sander with good dust extraction. It is connected with an automatic switch that turns on a shop vac when it turns on. The shop vac has a bag instead of a canister filter. If you want HEPA quality, you can run a bad and canister filter. Ridgid sells a HEPA filter kit. I don't think it is needed. Just a bag works great. The key is the bag as a canister filter will just clog up.

Could you take the whole cover plate off that covers the propeller and have that large opening directly mounted to the top of the separator instead of just that 5 inch diameter hole running into the top? If so I wonder if that would make a difference

@ShopRamblings

13 күн бұрын

I hope in the future to do some testing to see what modifications will help/hurt efficency.

Cut those circles using your jig but use a jigsaw instead of the router (way quicker and less dust. Tape a bicycle spoke upward to your jigsaw guiding your cord and hang your extension cord above your table and you will love working with wood. Other than that: Thanks for sharing

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

Great advice, thanks.

Well done.....and looking forward to do thesame build. I already have the plastic drum....and chose it for exactly yyour reason of being able to see how full it is just with a light, HOWEVER..... i wonder if there will be an issue with placing the blower in a horizontal position??? Are thre bearings able to last in that position???¿ u hats the one thing that concerns me. You have probablybeen rumming it in the new mode for probably over a year.....and i'm wondering if all is well with the motor??

@ShopRamblings

2 ай бұрын

Google Jet dust collectors. Half of theirs run horizontal. I have had no issues.

I really love your idea and it’s going to be great space saver for my shop. Quick question: would it be OK if I use 1/2” plywood? It’s just that I have 1/2” plywood scrap to complete two circles.

@ShopRamblings

7 ай бұрын

On my origanal one I did not have to small bridge in the center of the groove the dust falls through. It is made out of 3/4" and it started to sag. By adding the bridge I believe 1/2 " should be ok.

@DavidMorales-cr4vk

7 ай бұрын

Thank you sr!

You need an overhead cord boom. Or a cordless router. That's my next project, because I've got the same issues with them.

@ShopRamblings

6 ай бұрын

You are right about that. It is on the list, but it is a long list of things I need. I hope to get my list finished before I am finished, 😀but probably not.

net idea . llove it.

@ShopRamblings

4 ай бұрын

Thanks

Awesome , i could use this in my house as a central vacuum?

@ShopRamblings

5 ай бұрын

I would love to have the floor sweep in the house.

You had another video I watched and now can't find it. On your dust collector video on the video, I can't find you had the Seperator lifted about 4-6 inches above the barrel. Which one works best? Thanks for the videos, really like this and am going to start making one this week.

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

It was in this video. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gKJqrpOEcq6dg84.html The first one I build I was just trying to figure out how to get the two parts connected. I took a 4in pressure pvc fitting and heated it until it was flexible and stretched it to fit. I added wood blocks to help stabilize it. I was trying to make it easier and stacked two pieces of plywood in this video. If I built another one instead of putting the one additional circle the same size I would cut 2 smaller, maybe 10in, circles. It would give an extra 3/4" of clearance and would not have to notch around the exhaust. I think any of the 3 options should work especially if you can vent it to the outside.

@waynenelson8907

Жыл бұрын

@@ShopRamblings Got it built and tried it out like your demo and it sucked it super-fast. Mounted mine a little different as I thought all ports would be about equal distance to barrel. Getting pipe and fittings very soon and start running collector lines to each tool and at least 1 floor sweep maybe 2. Ordered the micro switches and a relay today. May I ask what brand blast gate you used? Thanks again for your expert video and will try and figure out how to put a video on here or send you one in a email or whatever. Have a good week, :)

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

I 3d printed my blast gates. This is the style I printed amzn.to/3MnfZ83 By printing them I was able to scale them so they fit 4" drain pipe. The pipe and fittings a much cheaper. If you have a printer I can try and find the file for you.

Beautiful system, I'm trying to follow along but get confused with the motor flange circles, it seems that you had placed another circle on the lower close to the turbine with straight cuts in it. did you cut 5 circles altogether, 2 larger and 3 smaller?

@ShopRamblings

11 ай бұрын

I hope this helps. kzread.info/dash/bejne/haioj5qqY8mrmMY.html Let me know if it doesn't answer your question.

@martyjosephson4937

8 ай бұрын

Thanks so i did cut the third circle for the motor (5 all together) and all seems good, I love it and works so well, better than the store bought ones, Thank you very much.

Nice

@ShopRamblings

Жыл бұрын

I never realized how nice it is to work without saw dust everywhere. I also never realized how much saw dust I created.