Hey guys, we need to set the record straight on something we got wrong in our recent kite comparison video. We talked about measuring the diameter of the leading edge of one of the kites, but we actually measured its circumference. Oops! We're sorry for the confusion and any head-scratching it may have caused. We take accuracy seriously and will make sure to use the right terms going forward. Thanks for tuning in and keeping us on our toes!

Very nice review, tks. You forgot to mention about price differences. For size 12m: Evo normal: 1949e, Evo SLS: 17% more expansive than Normal (2279e), and Evo Dlab: 62% more expansive than Normal (3149e). And also, Evo SLS 2023 is 13% more expansive than SLS 2022. And also, models like REBEL do NOT have a Normal model any more, you can only buy SLS Model (2489e)!! WTF Duotone. After 20 years of kiting with exNorth/Duotone, I think i am done with this BS, i will switch to another brand for my next quiver. I wish you good luck for selling those Dlabs..

@jakemcphail3795

Жыл бұрын

And for that reason l'll be going SLS

@thomasdebernardi9205

Жыл бұрын

At least someone realistic !

@pegas2929

Жыл бұрын

Eleveight ..here I come

@Antho_m

Жыл бұрын

Ozone guys... Best quality and still a normal price

@thomasdebernardi9205

Жыл бұрын

@@pegas2929 tried a 10m RS, it’s shit, feels like a 2010 switchable. Pulls a lot, not quick at all Quality is worse than north / fone for example. Barre is from 2009

Thank you, excellent informative review. I flew the 15M D Lab Juice in Sicily this summer in unusually light winds (8-12 knots). At 70kg it was a big surprise: responded like a 12M, handled the gusts and kept powered up better than the kites around me in the lulls. Expensive af but a perfect kite for Miami where I live now

Hey @KITEMANA team, you should do an review about all the famous kite on the market !! Big fan of the team and store. Let's go big!!

This was an excellent overview of all the EVOs. Thanks!

Nice video/job guys but this brand .... with gucci price, never ever ! Allula is 4% much expansive than dacron (I checked this) ... do you know what I mean ;-)

Great review thank you! 😁🤙🏽

Nice summary about all necessary details and differences 🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾😎

Nice video! … we want to know the difference small size in 30knots when looping low 🤙

@chrislewis89

Жыл бұрын

Yes, this!

@robk5048

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, use the click bar school version with 12m lines on a EVO DLAB 8m in 40kts plus.

Yeah, want to see EVO DLAB 8m, looping in strong wind, on the click bar school version with the 12m line setup. Send it!

@EriCreatorr

Жыл бұрын

pretty sure that liam whaley has a video where hes using an 8m Evo DLAB in the waves.

@robk5048

Жыл бұрын

​@Eric yeah, but he's not doing it on 12m lines.

The kite sure is nice, but 5000$ canadian dollars for 12m kite is insane. How can people afford these prices. Kite companies are pricing kitesurfers out of the sport. Make them more affordable not more expensive 😢😢

Great video! Thanks a lot for putting it together for us, particularly when it looks so cold out! Really interesting info. I'm so keen to try one. What I was wondering though is the SLS better than the dlab in any way? Or is the dlab just better in all ways? Thank you!

A nice review and a good job! 😎

@Kitemana

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!🙌

Awesome reviews 👍

Excellent video comparison cheers 👍

Great content. Thinking about just to have one kite and a 10 D/lab would be my deal (quite expensive)

Great video! What would you guess the wind range to be for each evo model in a 12M?

@Kitemana

Жыл бұрын

It's hard to give specific numbers on each model. But from my experience the Evo D lab has the widest wind range, as it's very easy to handle in strong wind but also in lighter wind due to it's aluula construction and therefor flying further in the wind window. The Evo D Lab will fly in 8 knots and won't fall out of the sky. With a normal Evo it will frontstall in these kind of conditions, the Evo SLS is kind of in between of these two.

Great review! Very bummed that they don't make a 14 or even 15 Evo D/Lab. That would be perfect for light wind areas (most of the world). I tried the Juice, but like my 15 Rebel SLS better.

@Kitemana

Жыл бұрын

Then you can certainly look at the Juice DLab, these are actually large sizes of the Evo DLab. The Evo DLab goes up to 13m and the Juice DLab is available in sizes 14,15 and 17.

@Kitemana

Жыл бұрын

www.kitemana.com/duotone-kiteboarding/duotone-juice-d-lab-2023-kite-101423

Nice and technical, but there is a difference beteen diameter and circumference 😉

@Kitemana

Жыл бұрын

Yep you are right! Check our pinned comment.🤟

thanks

nice video. how it's compare the bar pressure from the EVO SLS vs EVO DLab ?

@Kitemana

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! The bar pressure of the Evo SLS is about the same as the D/LAB. The steering pressure is smoother on the D/LAB for sure!

One question: is the measured weight for the tested 12m kites or the 10m as animated at 0:35s?

@Kitemana

Жыл бұрын

This video focuses on comparing different aspects of all the Evo kites. using the 12m kite as a reference point.🤙🏽

Diameter Vs perimeter issue ?

@KITEMANA team, do you have any feedback on repairs to the Aluula material? Assume most local repair shops would just use a dacron patch to repair?

@Kitemana

Жыл бұрын

Hi, We do have feedback on the repairs on Aluula material. We repair the kite with the original Aluula material that is used in the Duotone kites, like the Evo D-Lab for example. We repair the kites by the instructions provided by Duotone. Cheers, Team Kitemana!

@MrDwayno

Жыл бұрын

@@Kitemana Ok, so globally particularly in smaller locales, repairs could be an issue if your local shop doesn’t have Aluula gold lying out the back…..

In my experience the EVO SLS is less durable than normal EVO. Is DLAB even less durable? At these prices the kite has to last longer to be a viable choice. I had bridle sheath fraying because the bridles were twisting around while walking the kite to the launch area. This is because they are so much thinner. I ended up anchoring them with the batten velcro but the damage was done. What about relaunchability? Not covered in the comparison.

@Kitemana

11 ай бұрын

Hmmm. To be honest, that is still a question we don't really can answer at the moment. Since the launch of the EVO Dlab (around the beginning of march) we have only had a few of them in our repair store. I think we can tell you much more about the durability of this kite when time passes. What you can take into consideration is: it's more difficult to repair an Aluula kite than a normal dacron kite. To repair Aluula it takes more time, so this will cost a little more. The relaunchability of the kite is incredible, because the kite is lighter and is easy to maneuver to the side of the wind window where you want to relaunch the kite. On flat water spots you can also try to relaunch it by pulling the backlines.

Do you think the DLab increased wind rang will be able to substitute a standard 7-9-12 quiver with a Evo dlab 8-12 quiver?

@Kitemana

11 ай бұрын

I'm covinced that 8-12 could replace the set. Although, I would rather advice going for 8/11 or even 8/10 depending on your length, weight, home spot, average wind, level of riding etc.

@Kitemana

11 ай бұрын

If you want more information, feel free to give us a call!

@kimsrensen6884

11 ай бұрын

@@Kitemana Thanks for the answer🙂

for the dlab evo what wind range works per size?

@Kitemana

11 ай бұрын

The wind range per kite is depending on your weight, riding style and experience. There is a general wind range list from Duotone to get a idea... Cheers Theo!

Just a heads up. Other brands (like Core, Cabrihna, Harlem and Flysurfer) are also designing “sls” and/or aluula kites. I know of at least one brand that is going to be more bang for your buck 😉 @kitemana will you be selling those as well?

@gboates

10 ай бұрын

That Core XR Pro! Thought the XR8 was my dream kite but someone woke me up! At least they are mid priced here in Canada.

Diameter is not the same as circumferance... which you actually measured in cm...

Can't imagine that there is a big difference, because of the weight. Maybe only in extrem lightwind for hydrofoiling. There is so much marketing. Different bar pressure or high wind performance because of the weight, seriously?

@Kitemana

Жыл бұрын

By checking out this video that we created in collaboration with team rider Lasse Walker (kzread.info/dash/bejne/qnees8efqLWrlcY.html), you can see that the exceptional performance of the Evo D/Lab kite is not solely due to its lightweight design. Numerous other factors contribute to making this kite one of the finest in the entire industry, like the thin LE. 🤘

Diameter? You mean circumference right?

@Kitemana

Жыл бұрын

Yep you are right! Check our pinned comment.🤟

Nice comparisson video, thanks. Ocean Rodeo A-series does a way better job though of utilizing Aluula to make the kites lighter (and thus faster) than Duotone DLAB.

@collegepros

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I own a 17m A-series Flite. The 17m A-series Flite is equal in Kg’s as the EVO D-Lab 13m! That’s crazy! I’m not sure why Duotone can’t make them lighter. 🤔

@Wainando

Жыл бұрын

@@collegepros I guess Duotone is just lazy and keeps the kite-design the same across the normal-sls-dlab's, just another material for the LE and struts. Whilst OR makes a kite-design from scratch around the Aluula frame; making the LE and struts way smaller in circurmference as Aluula can take more PSI. Even the colouring of the DLAB's look out of place. Duotone spends their money on marketing, whilst OR use their budget to just make better kites and hopes on mouth-to-mouth and ofcourse Giel. Just my biased opinion.

@danielweber9738

Жыл бұрын

​@@collegepros 2024 they wil be releasing Duotone-Club - 2000€ Annual fee and you are eligable to get the D-Lab Pro Model for only 4500€ per Kite. Your marketing always needs ways to grow buddy ;)

@axarothfiefa6676

Жыл бұрын

@@Wainando The Evo Dlab is a different design from the SLS. We compared an 11m SLS with 11 Dlab on the beach and they have some obvious differences.

not diameter, but circumference of the leading edge :)

Didn’t show kites next to each-other in the air. Didn’t show kites looping comparisons. Didn’t show acceleration comparisons Didn’t really show anything did you…

@Kitemana

Жыл бұрын

Hi Isaac, we tested the kites consecutively at the beach. Lucas, who conducted the review, has been working at Kitemana for over 5 years and has more than 10 years of experience in kitesurfing and kitetesting. At Kitemana, we strive to provide honest reviews, and you are free to make any decisions based on this review. 🤙 Next time, we will attempt to capture a side-by-side comparison of the kites on film.

Even the normal one way too expensive already. And also you used 3 different bars I guess.

Vegas

@robk5048

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, when will Duotone make a DLAB Vegas?

Stupid money, more stupid money, the most stupid money