great to have Eamo and John back Respect & Peace

What is this delusion that Ireland play good football under Kenny? Backwards and sidewards passing is not attractive football. They don't score goals. I haven't checked the stats but he most have one of the worst goals scored record under his tenure. Using Covid as an excuse - every single team had to deal with Covid so why was it specifically difficult for Kenny? If he had any class he'd have let Mick McCarthy take that Euros playoff. It was his team and campaign and did not have the decency to stand aside and let Mick finish the campaign. O'Neill and Trap could have easily tried to play expansive football but results matter so practicality kicks in. What Kenny defenders seem to say is we A) play great football (which we don't) and B) results are less important once you are attempting or perceived to be playing attractive football. I think the media figures defending Kenny for so long is just to cover their own arse as they were so vitriolic with their criticism of O'Neill and Trap, they have to defend their position now.

@bryr5768

8 ай бұрын

good point how many goals from open play since he took over

@patrickfarrell5092

8 ай бұрын

I agree that Mick should have been allowed to stay on for the playoffs. But you are missing the point on pretty much everything else, by you expecting us to be an Argentina is delusional. Stephen was under pressure from the beginning due to Irish impatience.

@jimbear4979

8 ай бұрын

Maybe but he has also been given more slack. Brian Kerr last campaign he lost no games just playoff and was dumped despite his winning percentage. I think we can get more with a new manager. Team makes too many mistakes and has no answers when opposing managers switch tactics like against Netherlands.

@richardjoyce9815

7 ай бұрын

100 percent agree money hungry all it was and it’s back fired the man will be remembered as the worst ireland manager of all time he’s in my opinion a complete and utter idiot that hasn’t a clue how to win a professional looser

Get these guys back on the tv..wasted here ..really missed lads on the box

@jimbear4979

8 ай бұрын

They were so good and informative together. It was just great TV.

@eamonnmaccionnaith5761

8 ай бұрын

No way. The current punditry on RTÉ and Virgin is better. I'd listen to Kerr and Hamman any day over these lads. They sound so out of touch. Dunphy sounds like he's had a few drinks too. No thanks.

@kevinkilbane2007

8 ай бұрын

​@@eamonnmaccionnaith5761 What are you on about? Hamann was with Giles and dunphy on tv. And kerr is on a different station... And dunphy always sounds like he's had a drink

@eamonnmaccionnaith5761

8 ай бұрын

@@kevinkilbane2007 I didn't claim that Hamman wasn't on the same station with them. Nor did I claim that Hamman and Kerr are on the same station.

@chrislacey8776

8 ай бұрын

You say that but who watches tv anymore anyways?

Dunphy has gotten very sentimental in his old age. Time to hang up the mic, Eamon.

@MichihiroHonda

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, definitely gone extremely soft in his old age. 30 years ago he would've slaughtered Kenny.

@Donalob

8 ай бұрын

He should give it up because you don't share his opinion? lol

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@Patrick-sh9tt

8 ай бұрын

a joke. Dunphy ripped every decent manager we had who got us to big tournaments to shreds and yet defends this spoofer completely. 1 win in 5 is shambolic. You’d swear Wes Houlihan was fkn Zidane with this lad. Jobs for the boys stuff at this stage .

@BeansBeansBeans

8 ай бұрын

Who else can we realistically get in who could do better or even play better football with the quality of players we have, get real.

@alanchamberlain9902

8 ай бұрын

@@BeansBeansBeans Did Kenny do any better than Mick? no

@BeansBeansBeans

8 ай бұрын

@@alanchamberlain9902 Did Mick have better players than Kenny and played shit football to barely scrape better results? Yes and yes.

@alanchamberlain9902

8 ай бұрын

@@BeansBeansBeans Who were these world class players Mick had?

Need to get some wins. Like a lot of what Kenny has done but needs results.

What hurts the most is seeing the absolute apathy that opposing managers have for Kenny at the ends of games ,and the near fanboy shyness he has for them.

I think we should have a Celtic Nations Club Cup, between all top tier Scottish sides, plus the English league Welsh sides, plus the top four sides each from Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, and the Cymru Welsh Premier. This could bring funds to Irish soccer.

@mikedon5205

8 ай бұрын

Not a bad idea there is already something similar between the Republic and NI but if Welsh, Scottish and English clubs were brought in from lower leagues it could be a success

@kirkdyer7294

8 ай бұрын

Interesting. Would like to see that. I think the clubs in these countries should also expand their recruiting globally. Their leagues are too homogeneous. Lots of untapped amateur talent worldwide with players that are technically more gifted.

I think Kenny has done well with what he has to work with . He's biggest problem from day one was the way he was brought in . Yes he tried to play better football but didn't have a plan B to go back and defend when we had to.

Jesus lads how the mighty have fallen 🙈

Wes Hoolahan was playing second division football for Norwich City Jesus

Sounds like they are backtracking.

Get Vera Pauw to take over the men's team 👍👍👍👍

He has done a what’s needed to be done at the cost of his job, someone had to do it and we will reap the benefits of that work with many of the players brought through will have 20+ caps 🧢 , This will pay dividends in the future. The main issue is the lack of investment in the game here in Ireland. If he does go I would really like him retained in some capacity as he is too passionate and knowledgeable about the Irish football landscape. He is only 51. The next managers job when it does happen will reap these benefits. This was something that was not done in the past.

I think he did his best to salvage Irish football. Throughout the professional era we’ve generally had a team full of top flight players. Now it’s an exception to have an established premier league player. That’s not good enough to qualify for tournaments. Looking at talent coming through it seems that we are having a resurgence which will likely not come to fruition under Kenny, but a successor. It’s harsh as Kenny has set up the platform. It’s totally unknown whether the successor will actually have the know how or intent to keep building on this. There are plenty of talking heads coming after Kenny, and I think a part of it is self interested people wanting his job because of the talent that may be on the horizon. The dire football of Trapattoni and MoN has significantly contributed, in my estimation, to the dire lack of talent the Irish squad has had since 2018. And it had been a long time coming through a steady regression. If your national side routinely plays a boring and negative style of football, then you can’t expect your country to produce exciting or talented players. We saw a dramatic regression under MoN prior to the Denmark thrashing. We were lucky to escape with a draw against Georgia who were technically superior to us. The expedience and expectation of some of the “fans” is ridiculous. It’s that same attitude which has contributed to neglecting player development at a domestic level. The teams that get the best results tend to be the best footballing sides. They include small countries like Morocco and Croatia. These countries didn’t play bad football in the hope they’d have good players some day, but they always play a good technical game. The attitude in Irish football has to change to not accept negative football if we want consistent long term success.

I would appreciate your thoughts oñ how we produce great rugby players yearafter year, and maybe take their structures into the soccer frame

If Stephen Kenny was a foreigner Dunphy and Giles would have wanted him out long ago.

@MichihiroHonda

8 ай бұрын

💯

@johngough912

8 ай бұрын

Why not look after your own

@MichihiroHonda

8 ай бұрын

@@johngough912 even if he's completely out of his depth?

None of these lot could get Ireland to any championship and big Jack revolutionised us. They’re trying to re-write history. All of us who saw those games and experienced them remember how Charlton and Ireland became one of the most feared teams in the world at the time, which was a completely new thing in Irish football.

@tvpc3194

8 ай бұрын

Jack brought in so many players that otherwise would never have played for ireland

@jackmurphy6864

8 ай бұрын

Bit easier then, though, with a host of players playing for top teams, not the poor sides most are playing for now. Charlton also had a host of decent foreign players to pick from, none of which were Irish.

@Patrick-sh9tt

8 ай бұрын

@@jackmurphy6864 Charlton made all that happen, it’s all written in his autobiography, but of course the likes of Dunphy has spent years tearing away at the reality of the situation and if you keep saying the same thing over and over people will start to believe it. People wanted to play for Charlton, he was a massive personality in sport who won the WC as a player, that’s the difference. Most of the team were also children of emigrant parents, they were English born lads similar to Grealish, Rice and plenty others who Jack convinced to play for us. He also had very good reasons for not playing Brady who was in the twilight of his career at the time.

@davidpryle3935

8 ай бұрын

@@Patrick-sh9ttI think its important to remember that Liam Brady was the star player of the Euro 88 qualifying campaign though.

@jackmurphy6864

8 ай бұрын

@@Patrick-sh9tt Fair enough, but it doesn't change the fact they were foreign. Imagine the uproar if Sweden, for example (who almost never use players born outside Sweden) said they were borrowing 5 Danish guys before a game with Ireland ... who had 5 English in their team. Ireland didn't produce those players - it doesn't matter where their grandparents are from because they're not the ones on the field playing. If countries like Ireland and Morocco can just get distant relatives to play for them, then international football loses its uniqueness from club football. But that's another topic. Yes, Charlton did well, but let's face it, with the players he had, could have done even better. 2 wins in 12 tournament games is hardly stellar. The high-press game was very effective, but given the talent, it's a pity he didn't let them play better football.

All of us wanted him to do well His team is easier on the eye He did his best but Steven kenny has made loads of mistakes in tactics And team selection. He is out of his depth Against experienced managers He has absolutely no luck when it comes to injuries He has lost more than one coach We can't win a game. The interviews afterwards are painful. We need a change The fans need a lift I think a hardcore experienced manager could iron out the wrinkles with this team. We are not that far away.

I think tactically hes making mistakes and non reactive to other coaches changes within games which shows a nativey. However he doesn't have the players and i do feel for him but all said and done he PROBABLY wasnt up to it anyway

What "filth" is Dunphy referring to in relation to Kenny?

Love listening to Giles

The RTE panel are shameless me me me , you have to impress me, merchants.

Trying to build up the infrastructure of Irish grass roots football is admirable for sure, but the best Irish teams we've seen in the past, all the best players play at big clubs in England. It's the same story with the Welsh, Scottish and the Northern Irish.

What's the FAI plan to get out of this? Short of disbanding the GAA I don't see where we go from here

Can I get my flute extended too

There are a lot of managers out there who like to play good footbal with a better CV than Kenny.

Coleman is still one of our best players, granted, but he’s also 34 years of age. We would realistically have to be moving him on in the next two years anyway. Ferguson is a different matter and a big loss.

From team with high reputation and quality to the laughing stock of whole Europe.

@kevinkilbane2007

8 ай бұрын

What reputation? Competitive in the early 90s, and an average team since?

@GudSheep-lx5hu

8 ай бұрын

Euro 2012 summed up.

@patrickdoherty4527

8 ай бұрын

They're not a laughing stock. Nobody cares or is paying attention.

Deluded the two of them.

MON didn’t play attractive football anywhere he’s managed but he mixed it up. Trapattoni surprisingly was worse but Kenny is useless

Give the job to Cascarino.

Claiming that the fans are supporting Kenny because they're going to the matches is pure nonsense. They are going to the matches to support their country.

@stuarthanna-ih9lt

8 ай бұрын

Don't even know why they're bothering, paying to see shite football.

Eamon I love Stephen Kenny dunphy

Kenny is a nice man but unfortunately is no where near good enough to manage international team. Look at his competitive record? Fair enough at the beginning he bloodied lot of players and they needed experience at this level and he wanted to play more possesion based game which also takes time. But that period of goodwill is over now and Kenny must give results. He has been found wanting.

wez holohan lol ffs.. shows you if you are a dub the irish media will build you up but if you are from outside good luck youre in for a rough time..Kenny got the job on a promise of attacking football and results that he said mick should be getting

@Patrick-sh9tt

8 ай бұрын

He did wonders at teams such as Norwich and West Brom, with Real Madrid, Barca, desperate to sign him. Signed: Eamo

@Ricky_Baldy

8 ай бұрын

Don't talk bollocks. A Dub or not, Wes Hoolahan was the only out and out creative player we had, and we haven't had one since.

@MichihiroHonda

8 ай бұрын

He was the Drumcondra Messi......or something. 🤡

Kk keep kenny

Has Johnny finally lost the plot? Kenny is out of his depth. The players aren't great but we could be better as a team. Defensively we are shambolic. The Dutch goal that won the game should and could have been avoided. Results matter and he can't get results. Kenny "found" players! They all came through the underage ranks!!

Keep Steven Kenny if Steven was manager was tere when the other two we would have rice and grelash in our side now

Dunphy sounds very old now and John ,, was John talking with Nokia

I'm still trying to spot the great football Kenny and media buddies keep talking about, they haven't got the players, Kenny talks about improving technical ability, he's talking bullshit

@kevinkilbane2007

8 ай бұрын

Very true. But if O'Neill came back next week. You'd have Irish fans moaning about the type of football. The fans are awful and ruined the eras of mick, kerr, trap and oneill.

I am sick of these two trying to rewrite history. Yes the squads have been better. But Liam Brady retired during Jack's management. The current squad isn't great but we are not even competitive anymore. The Irish team is going backwards under Kenny. And passing sideways and backwards is not attractive football. Attacking going forward is what we want. If you have to play a long pass do it, play on the front foot.

Time for Duff

@user-im4gv9gg8h

8 ай бұрын

Duff beer ..

@alcoyne3333333333333

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@kevinkilbane2007

8 ай бұрын

Time for duff to do what??? Keep moaning like a baby on the sideline every week, and talk nonsense about getting kids to train everyday at 5am????

we need wins eamon we cant keep loseing tommyrravers

I agree what the lads are saying however , the squad we have now is far better than we had under Trap and O'Neill as a squad imo.

@GudSheep-lx5hu

8 ай бұрын

No.

It's going to take kenny another 4 campaign's to totally restructure Irish football from the kids up to the senior players after this Ireland will be competing at the highest level, now if The FAI sack him they will revert back to mercenary manager's and revert back to that system so what was the point in giving kenny the job in the first place, Stick with Kenny and be patient Rovers sacked Kenny Dundalk gave him time and he repaid them with 5 leagues and several cups and qualification for the champions league

@petermurtagh6294

8 ай бұрын

8 campaigns at least if he thinks he's gonna be playing like spain

@jonathanmunroe3597

8 ай бұрын

Champions league?

@bryr5768

8 ай бұрын

Ridiculous comment of the year goes to James Fagan

@davidpryle3935

8 ай бұрын

What exactly do you mean by “totally restructure Irish football” ? I mean, that’s very easy to say, but what exactly does it mean, in a country where football is a minority sport.

@GudSheep-lx5hu

8 ай бұрын

So’s rugby.

Giles was behind Kenny getting the job and the idea of Mick Mccarthy going into the job first for a year. He was in Delaneys ear.

@kevinkilbane2007

8 ай бұрын

Because delaney contacted John for advise.

Nobody cares how Ireland play as long as they qualify for something, that's what it's all about

Celebrating the goals against the minnows is really what annoyed me like ffs a big group hug is going too far.

@LOGOS422

8 ай бұрын

Stephen Kenny is a small time manager. He's surprised when we win any match.

@patrickdoherty4527

8 ай бұрын

Aren't Ireland minnows now too, though.

@ShawnDrymen

8 ай бұрын

@@patrickdoherty4527 funnily enough he actually just clapped when we scored against Holland

Rte should be ashamed they are not still on tv they are top class pundits Irish legends

Letters page of the Irish Independent today: “It is a pity that Ireland did not draw with Holland” 😂 That’s Irish football for you. Irish soccer fans LOVE a draw. The expectations are so low. 🤣

@patrickdoherty4527

8 ай бұрын

And a good old sing song. Don't forget about that.

" 'Covid' was real" 😆😂🤡.

everything is results talk shite all you want but it's about winning nothing else matters

@kevinkilbane2007

8 ай бұрын

Then why were the Irish fans moaning about oneill? Qualified in 16 euros, playoff for 18wc against a good danish team. And sacked.

@patrickdoherty4527

8 ай бұрын

​@@kevinkilbane2007I think a lot of that had to do with his personality. People didn't warm to him.