They have also cut Gurney Halleck singing and playing the Baliset out of the film which would be a great additional scene to see.

@Mecca4BA

2 жыл бұрын

Noooooooo

@secretsofdune

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mecca4BA They might use it for part 2 I've heard.

@shawnmartin2131

2 жыл бұрын

If they did release a 6 hour cut I'd make a day of it to watch it 2 or 3 times and do that at least once a week,I'm pretty sure with the amount of talent in this movie that's it's gonna be good so yeah..but to watch a 4/6 hour version of any movie you'd have to really appreciate the author's work and anyone that's gonna buy the extended version obviously would be...and I I KNOW I'm not alone here there's gotta be ALOT of other Dune fans including the Host of this channel...Cheers Fremen!!!

@shawnmartin2131

2 жыл бұрын

I obviously am NOT alone being a fan of Dune...Thank you for all the hard work and content...liked and subbing Sir!!

@scottmelton3013

2 жыл бұрын

It would be hard to see someone else other than Patrick Stewart play that role!

I swear to God if the movie was 7h long, I'd still watch it. Absolutely fantastic.

@xel1877

Жыл бұрын

Yes please yes!!!!

@newsmansuper2925

Жыл бұрын

its needs to be that long to do it justice

@MrTwangstaable

Жыл бұрын

The longer the better

@emilianohermosilla3996

Жыл бұрын

I’m with you, dude!

@narcisoatienza4839

Жыл бұрын

I’d buy that blu-ray if that will be available.

I'd pay top dollar for the whole version

@korzbro35

2 жыл бұрын

And bottom dollar from me as well ;)

@emilflognoid1532

2 жыл бұрын

It’ll be on the “special edition” DVD’s

@Shizzmonger

2 жыл бұрын

@@korzbro35 betcher

@shivamparashar1313

2 жыл бұрын

All my dollars, rupees, et al

@HOTDANCEHITS

2 жыл бұрын

count me in

THAT'S the version I want to see, full cut, no interruptions, full showing. That's the movie I've been waiting for!

@samuelperezgarcia

2 жыл бұрын

It sounds great on paper, but editing can make or break a movie. A sequence can feel extremely long and dull with weak editing, or extremely dynamic and immersing with proper editing. Just releasing entire scenes one after another without care will make for a bad movie experience, imo. I prefer something that has been polished to give our senses a feast. If that can be done with a 6 hour cut, I'm all for it, but I think the 6 hour cut is just every single scene shot.

@o-wolf

2 жыл бұрын

No studio is going to show a 5hr movie But part 2 could have the removed Duncan Idaho scenes seeing as pt2 centres more around his resurrection anyway... A flashback of him entering the planet would be ideal

@the1tigglet

2 жыл бұрын

@@o-wolf No they won't but movies are sent to the online stream stores faster today because of covid limiting the number of people in theaters so I was just reacting to that. I would like to see it all, deleted scenes and everything, Denis is a brilliant director!

@christinemusselman5499

2 жыл бұрын

I agree - a full movie. But there would have to be at least one intermission for potty breaks, etc.

@GSP-76

2 жыл бұрын

Never gonna happen..no studio would spend the money to edit and CG 5 hours of footage and then throw half of it out..there may be 3+ hour director's cut on BluRay

All films have things cut out to make it a proper length. Best we can hope for is an extended version, like lord of the rings.

@secretsofdune

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I love the extended editions of LOTR, specifically Fellowship of the Ring. To me it made the film even more perfect.

@maciedixon3983

2 жыл бұрын

I think it will be alright.

@darkthorpocomicknight7891

2 жыл бұрын

But Kevin Smith CONFIRMS a three hour cut was shown and that is TRIMMED So it could be alas had it been released in its original date we might have had the 3 hours ... well hopefully we'll know eventually

@darkthorpocomicknight7891

2 жыл бұрын

Oh thanks SOD - you've inspired my own Dune videos nowhere close to yours Another excellent video

@kittys.2870

2 жыл бұрын

No such thing as. "proper" length, they use to have proper formulas for music. Gone!

If audiences can watch 7 years of Game of Throwns, I would be very happy with the full version of Dune. Maybe after the both the first and second movies have had their run, Denis might release a 14 hour version that is streamed. Like 10 years from now.

@targard.quantumfrack6854

2 жыл бұрын

10 years?? Haven't we not waited long enough?

@peterbelanger4094

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe not even 10 years. It all depends. maybe the second half will never get made.

@alibabarouge

2 жыл бұрын

Game of throwns hhhh good one

@pascalbourelier3463

2 жыл бұрын

The Lord of the Rings didn't need 10 years to come out as Extended Editions, let's hope they got all the footage they need for an extended cut!

@vperkv6554

2 жыл бұрын

10 yrs???? I dont think humanity will make it 10 yrs from now. 🙃

Duncan Idaho’s covert arrival on Arrakis would definitely be nice to see though.

@christinemusselman5499

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing.

@mossy_6475

2 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@andrewnibbi

2 жыл бұрын

Any additional Duncan Idaho is a win for me.

@kevinmaroney9819

2 жыл бұрын

I think we’ll get flashsbacks

@benjaminadimugoh4502

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinmaroney9819 I think so too

"Dune is by far the best movie I've ever made" -Denis Villeneuve, Dec 2020

@skoomamuch356

2 жыл бұрын

@@ArdentlyGrant smh

@Baronstone

2 жыл бұрын

That remains to be seen, but it already has a strike against it because he made it for a PG-13 audience

@sten32144

2 жыл бұрын

@@ArdentlyGrant not sure he needs to maintain it, he is the best director alive, every movie is a masterpiece (with all my respect to Nolan, Wes Anderson, Paul T Anderson, Tarantino and Cameron)

@targard.quantumfrack6854

2 жыл бұрын

@@ArdentlyGrant Hearing interviews of him, I am under the impression that he's a very humble man. He wants to make good movies and he seems to be proud of this one, which is a lifelong dream project for him. What's wrong of narcissistic?

@curtislusk6255

2 жыл бұрын

They can’t even properly cast

If my parents were still here, I would make them watch this, because when the first version of Dune came out when I was in highschool, we went to see it. Had to explain the whole movie, but mom loved it...We watched Dune EVERY time we could...

@blackchromelife1692

2 жыл бұрын

Nostalgia ❤️

It sounds like you’re misinterpreting what Jason momoa said unless I’m mistaken. It doesn’t sound like momoa saw a longer version it sounds like he knows a ton was cut from it. Also bear in mind much of the cut is probably unscored

@undergrounddojokeyboardcag701

2 жыл бұрын

I mean... maybe. When you hear actors say stuff like that, that's what they're really just mentioning. How much was filmed. Not that there is actually a five hour cut in a vault somewhere. Rather, they just filmed five hours of potential scenes. That said, i'd love to see a directors cut because i do fully believe it would be nearly four hours.

@KatJ3st

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@falkenvir

2 жыл бұрын

Jason Momoa also the one that Confirmed the Snyder Cut, and now he confirmed the Dune Full Cut.

@christinemusselman5499

2 жыл бұрын

@@falkenvir Excellent point.

@christinemusselman5499

2 жыл бұрын

Most movies that are released as the director's cut start out with more of the material that had been shot and put it into a watchable movie, which means in some cases re-shooting certain scenes and editing or eliminating others, shooting new scenes and re-scoring and re-editing certain sections. There is rarely a complete 'director's cut" in the can, but it has to be created with what was previously shot with perhaps some new material.

Solutions already exists, its just that Hollywood is oblivious to them. In Serbia and probably the whole south-east Europe and/or wider there is a trend or a policy that is as follows: A movie is created and then released in theaters, after certain amount of time (when cash stops coming in). Lets say a year from its theatrical release a new TV release is made, which is basically a theatrical release divided in 6 or 12 episodes in a length of 40 to 60 min. These mini series include all what has been filmed but has not made it into the movie plus additional takes which fill gaps in existing footage. In this way you get your original revenue from box office, plus review from TV release and then there is a passive revenue from Movie and TV rights for both products and other bundled products (Blu-ray editions).

@wfd_wfd

2 жыл бұрын

That’s super interesting. I assume this is only for local productions though?

@ninlazar

2 жыл бұрын

@@wfd_wfd Well i know that only local production companies do this. I dont know if it is a practice anywhere else. But i think this is a good business model for long term profit, since most of the film industry (Hollywood) is focused only on short term profit gains and does not count long term profits.

@wfd_wfd

2 жыл бұрын

@@ninlazar That's just such a fascinating concept, and it makes such good business sense too. It's quite fascinating - curious really - that film industries around the world haven't adopted this model more widely. Thanks for sharing!

@ninlazar

2 жыл бұрын

@@wfd_wfd If you are interested in details about this i can provide you with an example of this model on a movie called Montevideo: Taste of a Dream which was made in 2010 and has grossed $2,192,931, which was then followed in 2012 with a series of a same name which had 27 episodes in 3 seasons (a lot of it was additionally shot in preparation for sequel movie). But for this i don't have profit details, i assume that it makes money even now with TV rights. And then there is a sequel movie "See You in Montevideo" which also grossed $2,273,204 and has been added to the above mentioned series as 3th season. This could be a very good business model for today streaming platform where you can always add more content, film premier then follow up series then sequel, then additional directors cut and bly-ray pack or criteria selection etc. The problem with todays film industry is that focus is only on short term gains (box office) which in todays digital environment is not viable at all and bigger, long term profit model must be made which would encompass all of the income sources. Movie theaters, digital streaming platforms, TV rights, Digital media etc.

@wfd_wfd

2 жыл бұрын

@@ninlazar Thanks for taking the time to spell this out, with data points. I'm utterly fascinated by this business model and just can't figure out why it's not been adopted more widely... you'd think producers around the world would be keen on making more money from their films beyond theatrical releases, and giving fans more of what they like in an environment where, technically, streaming makes this easier?

I’m hoping they’ll put out a LOTR style extended cut for those who want it. I want it.

HBO could very well release the extended cut as a promo for the Dune Sisterhood series or vice versa. The Snyder Cut was great IMO and fans love extended cuts even if the directors don't.

@ercly9382

2 жыл бұрын

So true. That Snyder cut was way better than the theatrical release by the magnitude x 2.

@chaost4544

2 жыл бұрын

Looking back at it, what HBO did was god damn brilliant and I feel you're ultimately going to be right. Hell.... if they release a 5 hour cut I'll subscribe to HBO Max. It's kind of genius if they did that.

@TheTinLion

2 жыл бұрын

Most directors like putting out their versions if given the chance because studio heads and producers trim so much from a film to get down to the Hollywood standard "theatrical" run time.

@shaunpatryck

2 жыл бұрын

Sisterhood, is the last thing the world needs on screen.

@cbob213

2 жыл бұрын

I think that the industry is changing. After all these lockdowns people want MORE long-form content. Hopefully it becomes standard to stream longer cuts. Unfortunately we won't see Theatrical extended and blue ray extended cuts because of image quality and the mediums they require for storage. Blue ray disc's only have so many gigs of data they can hold. For things like Dolby Vision and Audio, they need certain 4k image and color data to display it correctly. Fans always want more. The "general" audience wants an hour and a half. Cinemas only want short movies, so they can play the movie a certain amount of times each day. A streaming audience now. They are at home. They want more, loner length stuff.

I think a 3-hour cut could be quite possible, not as a director's cut but an Extended edition. Would be a smart move, copying the LOTR strategy. Often studio's want a film not longer than 2,5 hours, because then they can have more screenings on one day. The difference with Villeneuve's other movies is that Dune is a big franchise (starter), with many fans of the books. So they know they can make a lot of extra money from selling additional Blu-ray copies. (Also makes it easier to green light part 2) Especially if they are as well curated as the beloved LOTR extended editions. And Villeneuve might be pleased to also put out a slightly longer, more graphic version of the movie. Remember what LOTR did? They first released the theatrical version on dvd/Blu-ray, and half a year later came the Extended version. They sold a lot of copies to fans.

@080gina080

2 жыл бұрын

Isn't it already 3hrs?

@heartshinemusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@080gina080 It's 2 hrs and 35 minutes (but that's also including end credits.)

@Alvan81

2 жыл бұрын

The irony of the stupid 2.5 limit is that its part of why Theaters continue to lose ground to Home Theater, Streaming etc.

Similar to Nolan, Villeneuve's theatrical releases are the director's cuts. It's no coincidence that neither directors have "director's" or "extended" releases in their catalogues.

@gasjet2000

2 жыл бұрын

I think Nolan storyboards his movies meticulously in preproduction so he never has a whole lot of “extra” footage at the end of filming. What you see with his movies is pretty much what he shot. If Momoa is to be believed, that isn’t the case here. If Villenueve did shoot hours more footage, it could be best used to make extended cuts for home release to help make up for the lost revenue WB left by deciding to stream it same-day on HBO.

@3hited

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Nolan's scenes in IMAX 70mm are 1.44:1 aspect ratio and are only viewable in that aspect ratio at certain theaters, and AFAIK have never been released in that aspect ratio afterwards. And he films a LOT in IMAX 70mm

@AnnatarCarvour

2 жыл бұрын

@@gasjet2000 He did Rebecca Ferguson asks him in an interview with her an Denis what happened to all these different scenes they shot on Caladan like a greenhouse garden scene or something she really loved an was wondering what happened with it..there are a bunch of different scenes that have indeed been shot. Ofcourse they don't have a score or finished visual fx I imagine though

Villeneuve's admant that as none of his films have extended cuts, this one won't either. Apparently, there are many hours of footage. Let's hope that WB can convince him to do one. A fleshed out version of such a beautifully filmed epic would be fantastic!

@carlosandleon

2 жыл бұрын

Make an already slow film slower? It's completely redundant.

@PranjalProtim

2 жыл бұрын

@@carlosandleon go watch marvel movies

@carlosandleon

2 жыл бұрын

@@PranjalProtim I don't really like marvel movies man. It's just stupid to dismiss someone's opinion because it goes against popular opinion. There are very real criticisms that bring this movie down and I'm just pointing it out.

@PranjalProtim

2 жыл бұрын

​@@carlosandleon ​ @Carlos Leon The same way you are dismissing it as a slow movie. The lesser movies are dumb down for the audience the better.

@carlosandleon

2 жыл бұрын

@@PranjalProtim Look, it's not about dumbing it down for the audience. Cinematography in this movie is great, however it emphasizes aesthetics at the cost of good pacing and closure of the plot. This is not a dismissal, that is a valid criticism. Loads of other movies manage complicated themes with a more cohesive direction. This is just one of the movies that is overrated due to a misplaced sense of being cultured and artful appreciation like the original blade runner when in reality it's rather mediocre. Don't get me wrong, this is a technical masterpiece. But the direction is as intriguing as a long power rangers episode.

ANY true fan of the Dune Saga knows that it needs time to be presented properly!

The film format is essentially different from a novel. There’s no way a novel can be transferred. It must be transformed. Having seen the movie - it released on Sept 15 here in Norway - I have no problems bowing to the genius adaption of the first part of the novel. The story stands on its own feet. It’s not deviating from the novel but omitting quite a lot. If an extended version were to be issued later on I’d gladly buy another ticket. And, if movie were to be extended into TV format, say, like The Expanse’s adaptation of one novel per season (more or less), I’ll subscribe to the streaming service as well. I loved the film.

I quite fancy a Russian style cut - 3 hours with an interval, then a musical interlude, ala Lawrence, followed by the final 3 hours. It would be an epic cinematic experience, and might make great marketing. Something different.

@secretsofdune

2 жыл бұрын

I would love interesting and different marketing strategies for Dune, but it seems that they are playing it all very safe.

@happymaskedguy1943

2 жыл бұрын

@@secretsofdune Ugh, Warner...

@cvmitchell9368

2 жыл бұрын

My heart skipped a beat just reading this post, that would be EPIC!

A LONGER CUT WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY VERY COOL! I genuinely like the idea of releasing the movie for the studio in theaters and then releasing the longer version on HBO! 🎬

I think the first DUNE book should definitely be two movies and ‘Dune: Messiah’ should be a movie as well (think of it as the Paul Atreides trilogy) which explores in more detail the destruction of the Jihad and the downfall and tragic legacy left behind by Muad’Dib. Then I believe Children of Dune and God Emperor of Dune (and potentially Heretics and Chapterhouse) should definitely be a TV series!

@tcsam73

2 жыл бұрын

I would absolutely love to see a live action version of God Emperor of Dune. It would have to be done right, whomever was responsible for that travesty that Sci-Fi channel made a few years back needs to stay as far away from Dune as possible.

@MADCITYSTUDIOS

2 жыл бұрын

Dune IS 2 parts...

I want to see Villeneuve’s 5-hour cut!!!

I just finished Dune the book yesterday. It was awesome! I’m starting Messiah next so I’m intrigued to see where this story goes. There were things I was expecting to happen in the book that just plain didn’t happen which surprised me. But even still I really like the story.

6 hrs is not enough for me...Id watch even if it lasted 40 hrs. I've read the books over 70 times during my life. The only book I've read that many times, and I'll read it again.

@Azidust

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree

@0_Ka-Bar_0

2 жыл бұрын

​@Gary Allen everything until Chapterhouse is Dune. The prequels have no re readability in them. I love the houses but never read them twice, and I didn't read the Butlerian Jihad.

@gs8494

2 жыл бұрын

@@0_Ka-Bar_0 Smart move, the Herbert/Anderson books are every bit as bad as the originals are good. I got to the Battle of Corinno then gave up, fucking awful is the kindest thing I can say about them. 14 books in 17 years tells you that quality is not the priority here, just money.

@0_Ka-Bar_0

2 жыл бұрын

@@gs8494 As I've said no re readability in them. I love the houses because you could still feel Franks ink on them, and the fact they showed how it all came to be. The Inkvine whip scar and Gurney's escape was amazing part. Or how Baron was thin and beautifull untill he made a mistake by raping a Bene Gesserit witch. But Butlerian Jihad was boring AF.

I would pay an immense amount of money to watch an extended version of this

I hope general audiences support this movie🤞we need the second part

The first thing I thought when I finished was how it could have used at least another hour. They missed lots of character development and exposition. They didn't explain conditioning, or what mentats are and you really didn't feel the relationship between Leto and Jessica develope enough to hit hard.

@ibanez9179

2 жыл бұрын

It should have been at least 30 minutes longer.

@Dune571

2 жыл бұрын

I was disappointed he trimmed Thufir Hawat's entire plotline, essentially. I suppose folks will discover he's now working for the Baron in P. II...

@CitiZen1.0.1

2 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more

@christinemusselman5499

2 жыл бұрын

Agree wholeheartedly.

This is why you read the books first. They, almost always, are the definitive version to experience.

@ryanwaege7251

2 жыл бұрын

Reading a book, to me, is a personal adventure curated by the author, but interpreted and fleshed out by the imagination. To people lacking imagination, films and shows are more satisfying. The mind no longer has to do any heavy lifting as the cast, crew and director have done all the work to interpret the words from the page. The financial success of Bay's F&F and Transformer franchises clearly show that the average movie-goer is not looking for any deeper meaning in their media, but simply an adrenaline rush and an easily digested, barely-there plot.

@Ghaffar_KH

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanwaege7251 With all due respect, Ryan, but I do think comparing different mediums of entertainment is quite futile. While books are indeed the most personal and imaginative source of entertainment, I don’t think that should degrade the value of movies. Some might argue against your point and say I prefer movies over books because it’s an experience you get to go through with others in the cinema, and not alone in your room. There really is no right or wrong answer, it’s just a matter of preference. What I tried to point out in my comment is that 99% of the time when a book is being adapted into a movie, it’s inferior to the book counterpart because the story was meant to be read, not seen.

@yutaniskynet2653

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanwaege7251 I disagree entirely. Much great cinema I have watched is analytical and requires imaginative intuition along the same measure as literary works. Not all films are stupid, just like not all novels are brilliant.

@tangofoxtrot40

2 жыл бұрын

You read the book, then you end up posting vitriol on how your expectations werent met because things were different in your head. I say, watch whatever you wanna watch first but try to separate the experience and treat it as 2 separate things so you won’t end up judging one over the other.

@Ghaffar_KH

2 жыл бұрын

@@tangofoxtrot40 I’m sorry, but it isn’t 2 separate things. It’s the same story, same characters, same setting, same plot, etc. So yes, I do think comparing the 2 is normal.

I loved the extended version of the 1984 version of Dune. That movie got me hooked on the books. Herbert's son had cured me of that, but Frank Herbert's books are a wonderful read. I could definitely sit for an extended cut of the new Dune if it's as good as I hope.

Take my money. I want to see director's cut. It would be nice!! At least extended version.

I wonder if the movie is successful for part two I wonder if Villeneuve will continue adapting the rest of the series in film. It would be interesting if they decide to make the Dune Cinematic universe. Hope its successful.

@awesward4454

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, until after heretics, then it will be GOT all over again.

@franklerch1012

2 жыл бұрын

please no. I‘d love to see more Villeneuve Movies with no fantasy plots ( there is difference between sci fi and fantasy = 2001 vs Star Wars) Blade runner 2049 was great, but please let Dune be the last fantasy movie by Denis. And hell no Comic Movies. That ruined another remarkable talent, Christopher Nolan. Since Batman Begins, his movies lost their creative spark. I want Villeneuve to miss this trap

Director's cut! Can hardly wait!

What I'd really like to see is the theatrical cut, ASAP!!

A 5 hour cut? Yes please. I've already gone through Lord of The Rings extended trilogy multiple times. Bring it on!

Went to see the movie yesterday. All in all, very good movie: - Knockout visuals/cinematography (‚every frame a painting‘ has never been more true!), - great soundtrack (unlike other people, I like what Hans Zimmer did here), - Performances from actors ranged from good to great; also, Casting choices generally fit the characters well, - very well directed movie (where to put camera; how to stage dialogue and action scenes properly; …), - jawdropping sets and worldbuilding; movie feels properly epic, like it should. This is maybe the biggest strength of the film. So these are all very good things to like about the movie. However, very much like the theatrical cuts of the lord of the rings movies, I would have liked it to be 30 to 40 minutes longer. Things felt a bit unevenly paced at some places and the storytelling felt a bit dodgy at times. I myself, who knew the story before, had no problem following the film but some other family members, who didn‘t know about Dune before, had such issues. So: in case a longer cut exists, with more detailed scenes and storytelling, I sincerely hope they release it at some point!

@gawkthimm6030

2 жыл бұрын

Saw the movie last Saturday, I completely agree with everything you said. I went home and listed to the audiobook of Dune afterwards, I had read some detailed summaries of Dune some years ago, so I had some ideas, but was blown away, first by the film, then Herberts vision...

“Let’s watch every sodding frame like demons!”

I would love to watch a 4-5 hour version as long as it fills in the story like Duncan first arriving on Dune doing a HALO jump and landing using suspensors instead of a parachute. Thanks for more secrets keep up the great work buddy.

Sounds like three bonus discs on the Blu Ray set!!!!!Critereon Collection lives!!!!

@secretsofdune

2 жыл бұрын

Awww yisss, where do I sign?!

Dune deserves a multi-season tv show, like Babylon 5, Game of Thrones and The Expanse. It is far too complex for a Hollywood movie.

@secretsofdune

2 жыл бұрын

I feel the same way.

@FixedWing82

2 жыл бұрын

I just finished resding the book today and it seems that fitting any meaningful version of the story into even a long 3 hour movie would be totally impossible

@lXlElevatorlXl

2 жыл бұрын

maybe that is waht we get instead of dune part 2

@DANRYX

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently HBO is in the works to do an HBO exclusive series. I hope that this is not done in a way where part 2 will never be made. (No contract was ever signed for a part 2 which worries me)

@brontsmoth671

2 жыл бұрын

@@DANRYX They’re doing a Bene Gesserit series

In the Tiff interview, post imax viewing of the film, Rebecca Furgeson mentions the scene where lady Jessica discovers the greenhouse, with tropical plants where she reads the message. She asks Denis why that scene was not in the final cut. So that again is a scene I remember from the book that probably has left out of the final film.

I'm completely on board with your comment regarding not minding one bit if the final cut were even 6 hours long.💯💯💯. Like you, I could absolutely climb into the Dune verse for that long or longer, given a couple intermissions to get rid of my giant sodapop, and possibly reload. If done well and the character development isn't too... "insulting?" (not sure that's the perfect word) I can think of nothing more enjoyable than a spinoff series or follow up film or ten. Doesn't really matter to me. Dune has always been my absolute favorite genre. So many potential avenues for the imagination.

There is so much effort and quality in your videos. Dune is gonna get far more mainstream after the movie and your channel will grow even more.

@secretsofdune

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the kind words. I honestly try my best to make things look entertaining at least. I'm always trying to improve day by day and It means a lot to hear kind words like yours. I really hope my channel can grow bigger with a people following as kind as you.

If it exists then yes to an extended cut. I just NEED this movie to finally be released.

@alexkoronec4326

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I recall that David lynch's first cut was supposed to be 6 hours. However it was sliced down to 2.5 hours.

Oh, I really, really hope they release the full cut some day! 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼

Being part of the cast, Mamoa knows about how much was filmed altogether and what audiences could be missing out on.

@secretsofdune

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Villeneuve also films a lot more scenes than he needs and then assembles it all. So a lot ends up on the cutting room floor.

@ArdentlyGrant

2 жыл бұрын

And Mamoa has a long history of editing and directing. Lol.

@ArdentlyGrant

2 жыл бұрын

@@secretsofdune as with nearly any movie ever done that attempts to visually display a book in a movie. LOTR has dozens of hours of extra footage, much of it was released on Special Addition supplemental DVDs. DVDs were these things that didnt need a subscription or an internet connection, came in a handsome box, and were often even collectible.

@Baronstone

2 жыл бұрын

@@secretsofdune What a waste!

@tcsam73

2 жыл бұрын

Mamoa is also the only one who can come back for any future book they make into a move. Dune can become a career for him.

Those scenes will almost certainly see the light of day in a director's or definitive cut at some point. They aren't going to give us everything up front when they can milk us later on with it.

Love the production values on the recent videos, this one in particular. Looks incredible

@secretsofdune

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! Really happy that you are enjoying it!

I dont understand why they limit the length of movies anymore. In a world where binge watching is common, I really think longer more accurate adaptations of books would be widely accepted and praised. On a side note, just finished watching dune 10 mins ago and it was a good movie, left me excited to see a second part. Never read the books though so now I want to

@gavinclark6891

2 жыл бұрын

reading them is worth it

@dudleybarker2273

2 жыл бұрын

yes John, the books are essential to getting the fuller picture - which is why we need a seriously extended cut of Dune (Part 1) - also, what you've seen is just the first half of the first book.

@boratb258

2 жыл бұрын

Because you get more viewings in one theater in one day, you cut a half hour from the movie played say 5 times in a day that 30 min means you can play the movie a 6th time. Also less usage for camera ware and tare etc..

@johnhardwick1736

2 жыл бұрын

@@boratb258 I understand that, but for a book adaptation it doesn't give it enough time and leave a lot to be desired in the majority of cases. I got no problem with it for regular old movies, but if your basing it on a story then base it on the story, don't cut out important stuff, don't change what happens, take the time needed to tell the story, even if it's gotta be a multi part series.

@anthonykent00

2 жыл бұрын

Also, after drinking half a gallon of Coke, you can only sit in one place so long.

*4-6 hours of Dune? Count me in! The studio executives mandate that the movie can only be so long so that it will fit into a movie theatres schedule*

Hopefully there will be extended cut on Bluray/4k

I hope they will release a longer cut after the theater run. Meanwhile, I'm going to rewatch it in IMAX

All movies start out with a long 'assembly' cut. It's the initial cut that gives the movie form.

Tarantino seems to be the only big director playing with modern formats. He filmed Hateful 8 on super wide 70mm, and then toured the print like an old road show. He also made it ready for modern movie theaters with a digital version. After that he recut the movie for a 4-part, extended release on Netflix. This might be the future for visionaries like Villenueve. Theater, steelbook, streaming. And if you are adapting a much-loved genre book like Dune: the more footage you have, the better.

@8301TheJMan

2 жыл бұрын

Oh god... "The Hateful 8", that has got to be one of the most overrated and immensely self indulgent films i've ever seen. I love alot of Taratino's older films, but when you include those - when compared to the amount to which he's worshipped by film buffs on the internet - he's easily the most overrated director out there. "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" is structurally very similar to "The Hateful 8", where pretty much nothing happens in the first 95% of the film and are laden with boring and extremely self-indulgent dialogue, and suddenly at the very end there's a shit ton of extremely graphic action at the conclusion. I feel like people say those two movies are brilliant, because it's Taratino - and we're supposed to find his movies brilliant or groundbreaking, (whether they deserve such praise or not). Seriously, if either of those two movies were directed by a director no one had heard of and you changed nothing, i guarantee that they wouldn't have gotten anywhere near the praise they received. "Inglorious Bastards" and "Pulp Fiction" are two of the greatest movies ever made, but i think all this praise and hype has gone to Tarantino's head, both of his last two films were pretty obviously made by somebody who is extremely self-satisfied. Denis is ten times the director Taratino is imo. Of course this is just my opinion though, i am well aware that there are people out there who genuinely loved both films, but for the life of me i can't understand why.

If there is a longer version I don't think we'll see it until the SECOND DVD release.

I couldn't agree more. I pray one day there will be a streamed (greatly) extended cut also one of part 2!

I want the MAX CUT - the “everything and the kitchen sink” cut!

Maybe the home release will be Unrated! 🤞😁

@christinemusselman5499

2 жыл бұрын

We can hope!

Imo the only thing dragging Dune 2021 down a bit is the runtime. It could not only improve the film itself, but it would be so much better in relation to the book. There is just so much material there.

I'd like to see an Extended version of the final film, parts one and two together, edited into an 8-10 episode mini-series. As much as I love the LOTR EE's, a series of one-hour episodes would be much easier to binge-watch.

I'd watch 40+ hours of Dune no-stop anytime Mr V is doing a great job

I fully support the raw movie, not cuts full 5 to 6 hours going to another world.. yep i'm totally in for this!

Please get part 2 out before the world ends!

I think IT all depends on WHAT was cut because on producer/studio/rating body influence. And how much happy od DV with final product. If he is happy despite the changes...well. we know what he thinks about extended cuts and such.

I would LOVE to get a longer version!

Jason Momoa just hates film editors 🤣

If Villeneuve and Zimmer are as big fans as he says, there must be an extended cut in mind or in the works. Maybe releasing it before the future sequels like LotR.

I saw it in Imax earlier today. Absolutely breathtaking. Not that I wasn't expecting it, but it still chafes me and saddens me... that is, the percentage of ppl who go out of their way to see a movie in theaters and can't keep their phones out of their hands for even a couple hours. Aside from it being a distraction to other viewers(not that anyone who does this gives a shit), I feel it says a lot about how even the best escapism still isn't enough for many these days. I'm only 31 myself, but I'd put money on the majority of them being under 25. Everything is just a stream of media/information now, whether it's a big screen or a small screen. Disengaging and escaping isn't a thing anymore; since information flow is so constant in the palm of our hands, there's no true separation/disengage now, unless you forget your phone at home. That's when it starts to itch, like an addiction. It really is like a soother for those that don't know life without it. No phone=foot tapping/restlessness/lack of focus. Got me thinking about the Spacing Guild and the Butlerian Jihad XD

@NNSArt

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I know what you mean.

After watching it I can say positively that there seems to be bits here and there left out. Granted, at 2 1/2 hours, it's still a masterpiece.

As much as people here wax on about Denis hates director extended cuts, that's the Director POV ego but fans like me if they like how a movie is done would like pertinent added scenes that were cut ONLY DUE to STUDIO WISHES. We just have to take Denis' word the length of this first half is the best of his vision version, but like Jason, who is used to Game of Thrones delving into the books level of creation having 10hrs per SEASON/BOOK, I TOTALLY AGREE. I am a huge fan of the Syfy 3 day attempts esp Children of Dune that STILL were cut but filled 6hrs of the DUNE story telling the books using more of the scenes to immerse you. I prefer Lynch DUNE FAN EDITS including cut scenes that made the movie less chaotic and more enjoyable to follow per the book.

@andydudley1775

2 жыл бұрын

if it does exist one day we get it

@thenorsepioneer7311

2 жыл бұрын

Let's be honest after Blade Runner 2049 Denis needs some studio oversight. Not that it was a bad film but it was needlessly long. It spent minutes and minutes of people just walking around with no conflict, through several scenes. I get that he likes to make slower films but there is a point where your taking the piss.

@targard.quantumfrack6854

2 жыл бұрын

@@thenorsepioneer7311 I loved this film and have no problem with the pacing. I feel that Dune will be more action driven.

@a9382ueaw

2 жыл бұрын

@@thenorsepioneer7311 blade runner 2049 went by so quickly, watchu even talking about? if you're used to watching fast paced action films go watch those - villeneuve didn't make an arthouse sci fi movie with a beautiful atmosphere to appease your taste of how fast a film should be

“I will say that there’s no great things that are being lost. When I cut something, it’s dead. It means it was not good enough. Even if sometimes I’m cutting my favorite shots, I still strongly think that when it’s cut on the floor of the editing room it should not go back to see the light of day again. I don’t like extended cuts. I must say, apart from Touch of Evil and Blade Runner, I have never seen a director’s cut that was better than the original. I mean, I’m not a fan at all of Apocalypse Now Redux. I thought it was a massive mistake to do Apocalypse Now Redux. It’s true that maybe sometimes the director lost control and had to do what producers - but, most of the time the movie stands by itself. It’s stronger than one individual.” - Denis Villeneuve

@SuperSkopje

2 жыл бұрын

There is the answer

@secretsofdune

2 жыл бұрын

As soon as the quote started with "I will say that," I knew it was Villeneuve.

@secretsofdune

2 жыл бұрын

I'd also add LOTR Fellowship of the Ring to that list of better cuts than the original.

@menelikiii5004

2 жыл бұрын

@@secretsofdune Kingdom of Heaven is the best example of a Directors cut that makes a movie way better than the theatrical

@secretsofdune

2 жыл бұрын

@@menelikiii5004 How could I forget that?! Absolutely agree!

Yes please, a longer cut!

I would, absolutely, 1000%, pay a premium price to see a FULL cut of Dune. Anything that was cut OTHER than shots the director intentionally cut at his own artistic discretion, put it back in. I don't care if it makes the movie 6 hours long. I would easily spend $200 or more for a special set if it had the theatrical release and the full cut on separate discs with a special book that comes with it with concept art and stuff, in a really nice, sturdy box with a high quality finish and exclusive cover art, etc. Then I could watch the theatrical version anytime I have the time for a long-ish movie. Then, once a year I would pick a weekend to watch the whole 6 hour cut either all in one afternoon or over two days in 3 hour chunks. It would be cool to show friends and family too and could be the kind of thing that I could invite people over for a "Dune marathon". Have pizza and nachos with homemade 6-layer taco dip and Tostito's and mix drinks for everyone and just watch Dune for 6 hours. I know of at least half a dozen people off the top of my head who would clear a day for that for sure, plus at least 2 of my 4 kids who love sci-fi movies. I've had weekends where my oldest daughter and I have started watching Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit on a Friday afternoon and spent all weekend powering through the whole saga non-stop. A 4-6 hour cut of Dune would be FLIPPIN' AMAZING!!! It would be the pride of my movie collection, hands down.

Wishful thinking, but 4 to 5 hrs x2 means a combined 8 to 10 hr "extended" version! This is the length Jodorowsky may have released had conditions faired better all those years ago. Villeneuve's effort in whichever form will include cutting-edge effects, current casting, faithful adaptations; a wonderful, enthusiastic and visionary if not outlandish or reportedly revolutionary directorial talent.

@Matthy63

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh as much as I can respect Jodorowsky's chaotic hippie energy I can imagine a producer would feel more comfortable giving however many hundreds of millions of dollars to Villeneuve than to Jodorowsky. Villeneuve also managed to film the thing without like, making his 14 year old method act as Paul by doing martial arts 24/7.

@ArdentlyGrant

2 жыл бұрын

We already have a 6+ hour version.. the scifi channel release.

I'd love to see it over a longer period of time.

I want an EXTENDED EDITION of Dune... that would be AWESOME. Perhaps they will release an "Extended Editions of both Dune and Dune2 after the release of Dune2)

I love your accent and videos they make a perfect combination!

@secretsofdune

2 жыл бұрын

Very kind of you. Thank you!

The HBO release if a longer version would make it unavailable to many fans who can't afford the subscription or the significant one-time viewing fee. If it could go to DVD/DVD Blueray 4 hr version in a few months after theater release fans could save up for the purchase of it.

I would like to see an extended cut just like was done to the :Lord of the Rings" Each section of the Trilogy had like an hour and a half more conted added. May cut scenes were added back in and this way we can see much more of the storyline of the book. This needs to happen. Denis can easily do this. Not only would we have more of the movie, the sales of the extended cuts would make more money for the film! Do it Denis!!!

If there is a long version... ill happily watch that in the imax!

YES PLEASE!!! the theatrical one feels like a commercial.

I would really expect that we will see a longer cut released on HBO Max similar to the Snyder cut of Justice League. It's kind of a no brainer for them especially since you can tell the theatrical cut was heavily edited for time. I think there are a lot of scenes in the movie, especially the stuff from the visions that felt like they were actually full fledged scenes that were shot and edited. Crossing my fingers for the 5 hour 5 part hbo release :)

Whether we'll ever get to see any extended version is probably dependent on financial success. If it's a flop, no resources will be expended on subsequent releases, but if it's a cash cow then we'll likely be treated to all manner of extended versions and directors cuts and so on. Much like LOTR - they are still releasing various versions of those films even now 20 years later.

The internet: Hey there is a six hour version of Dune! Me: Great now I have to build a THX home theater...

I haven't bought a blue ray of a movie in years but a R-rated five-six hour Denis cut of Dune. Ya it can go right next to my long cut of Dune 1984 and the long cut of Dune 2000 mini, please and thank you.

I'd love to see the long version.

This is the perfect cure for insomnia

The movie cut soooo much. I'm sure as a reader everyone felt that. Wish it was a series like you say. They could've had at least 2-3 episodes on Caladan alone for build up. And obviously more than 1 day on Arrakis before the betrayal. So much potential!!! Love this story though and movie was very well done for the shortness.

I agree it would be much better to have a series to give time for character building and of course more details to all the "Plans within Plans".

In the age of long format TV isn't there a place for this? I'd love to see it

I'd be the first in line for an extended edition 4K blue ray Take my money!!!

I spent half my life looking for the uncut version of Lynch's Dune...Finally watched it due to the internet and was mildly disappointed. I can completely see why they cut several scenes from that movie.

I rly rly hope for an extended edition with these scenes included

Perhaps they'll start throwing some of that material out before Dune's release. Just like they've done some shorts about Blade Runner 2049? Of what happen in between the movies? Since it's such a tent pole film, I don't see them not using all that amazing material...

I don't think the 4-6 hour cut exists yet - at least not a complete, finished one, with all the CGI and everything in it. There might be enough filmed material to create such a cut, there might be an unfinished rough-cut of that length, but I don't think they'd actually invest the money in completing that cut before they have plans to sell it. And there probably aren't going to be any such plans, before they know how well the original cut did at he box office. At a later point in time though, we might get an extended edition - like for example The Lord Of The Rings did. That extended edition even aired in theaters. Extended cuts and director cuts as later BluRay/DVD releases aren't unheard of either. If the movie is successful, there's a chance something like that might happen later. As for the TV-series format... I'm not convinced that would turn out great. There are certain caveats about serials, which I'm not sure I'd like to see happen to Dune. Something like a multi-part made-for-TV film might work, but a real series with planned seasons? Budget constraints, filler episodes, problems securing actors for shoots throughout the year, each year, having to settle for lesser known actors, not being able to shoot on location year-round, etc. - I personally feel that making multiple movies might be the better approach - and there's more than enough material to create a lot more movies after those first two.

@secretsofdune

2 жыл бұрын

I agree about the cut not existing yet.

I would Eagerly and Happily watch it! I didn't want it to end!

I really hope that I can get my hands on this! I will buy it if he has done it! Villeneuve is a great director and storyteller.

As a writer myself (which I know isn't exactly the same thing as being a full-on filmmaker like Denis, but in the respect I'm about to outline the principle is the same), I know all too well that stitching together everything you wrote in your first draft and prepping it for your second draft means removing lots of things you thought were great a few weeks or months ago, but don't look nearly as good anymore. I even remember one of my favourite authors, China Miéville (who incidentally I recommend for other fans of the Dune books such as myself), saying how if he were to release the definitive version of his breakthrough novel Perdido Street Station, it would be, without a doubt, shorter, not longer. I personally love long books and movies, but there is something to be said for getting a lot done in less time. On top of that, it definitely doesn't look like Villeneuve has been having any of the kind of issues Alex Garland, the one cerebral SF filmmaker out there with a talent matching Villeneuve's if there ever was one, faced on films of his like Annihilation and Ex Machina where he basically said his experience was "I make a movie, I bring it to a distributor, and they say 'we don't want to distribute this'. I've had, in the past, huge battles, real screaming rows over the final cut." and then something like the whole Netflix controversy with Annihilation happened. It really looks like that hasn't happened with Dune, so I'm not worried. That being said, I would love to see that Jason Momoa jumping from space scene.

@secretsofdune

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. There is a refinement process.

@Shigawire

2 жыл бұрын

I also know this having done some video editing myself. You record a LOT, but end up with a lot less used.

@bmoneybby

2 жыл бұрын

But when you're a fan of the world more than it as just a movie you often don't care about a "better" cut or movie, you just want longer in the World. For example, I only watch Lord of the Rings extended cut versions. Are they better movies? Idk. I never thought about it, but what I do know is they are longer. Haha

Never going to happen. Denis does not like director’s or extended cuts. His theatrical cuts are the best way to watch his movies. He said that if it didn’t make it through the post-processing, its for a good reason

@trumpsextratesticle8590

2 жыл бұрын

The "best way to watch his movies" is subjective. Some people like the longer movie because they become more immersed in the Dune Universe. . Nobody is wrong, cause it's a personal opinion, this is why they release different versions /Theatrical/extended/driecters.

@charlesliu5320

2 жыл бұрын

Considering the sheer detail, size and scope of the source material, and the fact that it’s a beloved and iconic classic, I think it’s quite possible that he may make an exception here and release an extended version at some point

@chugg159

2 жыл бұрын

It's possible that it's going to be different for Dune. He's expressed his love for Dune, and famously it necessitates a longer form of media to convey the universe. I think Denis understands this, and he's definitely considering some kind of a complete cut as the final cut just split into two parts, but he probably also accepts that it may not be very marketable.

@ObserverDoel

2 жыл бұрын

@@trumpsextratesticle8590 While there is some truth to your statement it doesn't always work like that when it comes to art. You wouldn't change the Mona Lisas hair to red because you fancy redheads more than brunettes for instance. The same can be said about a film that was carefully crafted to be what it is, making extended cuts may detract from the directors vision and even though some might prefer the extended cut it has stopped being what it was intended to be and it's essentially disrespecting the creators wishes/plan/vision. This of course is not true for every film or director, it really has to do with how the movie is crafted in the first place and what the directors vision for his work is.

@trumpsextratesticle8590

2 жыл бұрын

@@ObserverDoel "You wouldn't change..." . Stop projecting. There are plenty of people who change art to suit their likes, look at all the modern critics wanting a black man to play Captain America. . The rest of your reply has nothing to do with anything being talked about "being respectful of the creator's vision".

Thanks for the video

@secretsofdune

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

I recognize this voice!!! Hahahahaha! Awesome dude!!

@secretsofdune

2 жыл бұрын

From where?