I'll always love this movie for what it got right, rather than hate it for what it got wrong.

@chriswestergaard4506

3 ай бұрын

I dig that mindset! I really want to like it for what the movie gets right. It's like death by a thousand cuts for myself personally which prevents me for truly loving it for what it is

@ShadoSpartan44

3 ай бұрын

i think more people should think that way, but sadly people mainly focus on calling out what's bad in a movie and then posting about it because that gets them views, hate or negative content brings a better draw

@LunaticAsylum01

3 ай бұрын

Maybe I have crap taste in movies. I know that this one has a bad reputation, but I've never looked into what's so bad about it. I bloody love it!

@fuferito

3 ай бұрын

Villeneuve's _Dune_ films are a great achievement, we would all agree, but David Lynch's _Dune_ is so memorable; a source of so many great quotes; and, so much more fun, overall.

@DarrickDraper

3 ай бұрын

I loved this Dune.

The famous quote "The Spice must flow" originated from this movie. At no point is it ever used in the book.

@werideatdusk

3 ай бұрын

What about "the sleeper must awaken"?

@youtubedj9298

3 ай бұрын

@@werideatdusk what about, "I will take the boy (weird grunt)." ?

@EmDub01

3 ай бұрын

@@werideatduskinterestingly, this quote gets re-worked in the newer films: “you’ll find your own way to it” when Leto speaks to Paul about leadership in the graveyard in Pt. 1, and when Paul holds the ducal signet ring in Pt. 2 and says “Father, I’ve found my way.”

@hardnewstakenharder

3 ай бұрын

​@@werideatduskjust finished the book last night, wasn't in it.

@ThreadBomb

3 ай бұрын

Interestingly, we see something similar with the Harry Potter films, which have some iconic lines and scenes that were invented by the screenwriter. Ideally, the best additions should be incorporated into future iterations of the material.

It's liberating nowadays seeing so much love for this movie after so many years of outright hate. It's a beautiful cinematic work.

@rahulshah1408

3 ай бұрын

It's also nice to see how it was meant to be (with some imagination).

@stuartburns8657

15 сағат бұрын

It's a beautiful mess, but its responsible for getting into the Frank Herbert books and universe.

the soundtrack to this movie is just legendary

@YllibD

10 сағат бұрын

I concur

The music and atmosphere of this movie will always make it one of the best cult classics ever made.

@TheBelrick

3 ай бұрын

And it contained European actors that weren't just villains. Look why ohveywood did to the cast in the remake. Appallingly blatant etihw etah (spelt backwards). The new Dune can join disney sw in not existing in my mind or my children's. They hate us so why watch them do the hating? Note: Neither atreides males are european in case you are confused.

@ntc5879

3 ай бұрын

@@TheBelrick?????????

@TheBelrick

3 ай бұрын

@@ntc5879 Look at what they did to the casting between 1980s ver and now They removed those they despised from screen

@TheBelrick

3 ай бұрын

@@ntc5879 oh my apologies, i replied then saw that you were Nigerian. My mistake for speaking to you as if we were the same.

@orwellianson

3 ай бұрын

So true.

I have always liked this film, don't care what the critics said.

@dermagnus8482

3 ай бұрын

Same. Saw it 100s times. Far better than the new soulless Remake.

@SaberRexZealot

3 ай бұрын

@@dermagnus8482 soulless, lol that is pure nonsense. People are so entitled it’s ridiculous

@Gunnar001

3 ай бұрын

It did many things better than the new movies.

@nebularain3338

3 ай бұрын

​@@SaberRexZealot How is having a personal preference being entitled? Entitled to what? Or do you not understand what the word means?

@Junior.illinois

3 ай бұрын

Indeed ,me too

I'll always have a huge soft spot for this movie.

I love "Take My Hand." It's as though you've reached the end credits of your own life, and are relieved you got the good ending.

@wmtodd8249

3 ай бұрын

Take My Hand. It's not often one gets to hear from someone else how much they love that track.

@parkpunk2

3 ай бұрын

I also love it. It fits the movie PERFECTLY.

@risenphoenix74

3 ай бұрын

I too have loved this song since the movie was first released, and still listen to the soundtrack often. It's a beautiful song.

@EmDub01

3 ай бұрын

Always thought the end credits were a relief to watch after such a strange and dark adventure through a hostile desert planet. Showing the rolling waves of Caladan and the faces of all of the characters with the cast member names as that 80s rock ballad plays gives me an emotional reaction, and always has ever since I first saw the film as a 10 year old kid.

I love this movie because it's A. delightfully entertaining, B. memorable, C. quotable, D. slappin' soundtrack, E. trippy bizarreness that acts like a time capsule, F. absolutely and utterly unique.

Huge in scope, beautiful imagery, an excellent cast, awesome special effects and a fantastic score by Toto with the Prophecy theme by Brian Eno rounded out by believable performances means yeah... I love this movie. Definitely one of my favourites.

@Psygnosis1982

3 ай бұрын

I totally forgot about the dodgy voice over for Aliha. That was one of the low points for sure.

@josepablolunasanchez1283

3 ай бұрын

If you watch carefully, the set is full of details and costumes were carefully crafted. Rumors say that there was so much that went unseen on screen. Pure art.

It definitely feels like a David Lynch sci-fi blockbuster. The sets and sandworms looked great.

@josepablolunasanchez1283

3 ай бұрын

I like this movie more than the new one. It is true the new one has impressive sound effects, but characters feel not epic, Paul looks like a man pretending to be prophet to please his mom and you do not feel Chani having any chemistry. Characters are too immature and juvenile, and Fremen are not united as in the book or the old movie. I did not like the new Dune, will not buy the DVD

I love this movie. When Twin Peaks came out, I was completely captured by Lynch. Only then did I learn that The Elephant Man and this grotesque and unusual Science Fiction epic, that I had seen and loved years earlier, was done by him. I cannot consider it a failed or unsuccesful film. I love the sets, the soundtrack and everything to do with Lynch's absurd vision of the hedonistic and cruel Harkonnens. Also: I love Alia's voice.

@lucyrobinson2814

3 ай бұрын

Grotesque and unusual. You've just NAILED IT!!! Perfect description. I love this movie despite the awkwardness and weirdness...but hey...jazz hands....that's Lynch baby! 🧡🧡🧡🪱🪱🪱💪💪💪

@zzygyy

3 ай бұрын

This movie is 80s gold.

@ThreadBomb

3 ай бұрын

I agree, Alia's voice sounds fine. She shouldn't sound like a child - she contains all the wisdom and experience of a lineage of Bene Gesserit reverend mothers. Also, the reverend mother growling is a deliberate call-back to the scene with the Box: she expressed contempt for people who are "animals", but in the end is reduced to that level herself by anger and fear.

My preferred version of Dune. I couldn't see it in theaters as a kid in 1984, but I finally saw it in theaters a few weeks ago. Even more stunning than i had ever seen umpteen times on Cable TV in the 80s. Long live the fighters! Edit: I also like that it's one and done.

@josepablolunasanchez1283

3 ай бұрын

The best version. Period. I have spoken.

@350125GOW

3 ай бұрын

@@josepablolunasanchez1283 Correct.

@orientalgolem

3 ай бұрын

Long live the fighters!!!

Lynch's Dune is bloody briliant in its theatrical form - imagine what it could have been with Lynch's total control and his proposed sequel.

@88Somi

3 ай бұрын

Proposed sequel ? How ? If I remember correctly and the end of the movie Paul bring rain to the Dune.

@mainstreetsaint36

3 ай бұрын

@88Somi extended and spicediver cuts there is no rain.

@V3ntilator

3 ай бұрын

Lynch lost control over the movie before it were even filmed. You can insert hours of deleted scenes, and it's still not a Lynch movie as nothing of it were approved by Lynch.

What I love about Dune 1984 is how it perfectly embraces the trippy weirdness of the book and pushes the 80's sci fi asthetic to the extreme. The Villenueve films just feel like epic blockbusters that are visually impressive but overall seem ashamed of adapting the book's more wild concepts.

I can watch this movie over and over. The new ones I dont ever want to watch again. I think it's the cast.

I absolutely agreed with you about the soundtrack. My mother took me to see Dune in the movie theater in Schaumbrug, Illinois when it came out, and I was only 8 years old. The music connected with me and I still listen to it today often.

Oliver Harper is the GOAT for cinema reviews.

@ValleyOfTheWindFan06

3 ай бұрын

He's one of my favorite KZreadr.

i still love this movie.

"HE WHO CONTROLS THE OLIVER HARPER SPICE CONTROLS THE UNIVERSE!"

A timeless masterpiece. That deserves periodical viewings. From the details of story, design and action and acting I never get enough ❤

'84 Dune needed the balanced narrative of the Villeneuve Dune. Villeneuve Dune needed the visual personality of the '84 Dune.

@mrblobby7864

3 ай бұрын

Exactly! Finally someone who gets it!

This is one of those rare instances where I actually prefer this movie over the book. I saw this movie first and surprisingly enough I understood everything that was going on and I didn't get lost at all. It actually made me want to read the book. There are parts in the movie that I think work better in the movie than in the book. Paul taking the water of life for one. I really enjoyed that scene and to this day I look it up here on KZread and watch it.

I absolutely adore this version of Dune. The cast is excellent and the production design and soundtrack are gorgeous. Kyle is perfect as Paul, and the characters' thoughts and voice overs totally work for me. Yes, there are weird and/or gross bits, and the ending paints Paul as a triumphant hero instead of a flawed, tragic figure, but this will always be one of my favorite movies of all time. I was lucky to watch it on the big screen right before the release of Villeneuve's Part 2 and it was magical.

@chiclet_teeth

3 ай бұрын

Agreed. I have always enjoyed this movie.

@Junior.illinois

3 ай бұрын

I love this version 84 was pure cinematic

@robertnguyen2025

3 ай бұрын

Amazing .one of the few who actually watch the 1984 Dune in theater and the new Dune..never had a chance to see the 1984 movie in theater..hope one day they put it in theater IMAX

@providencebreaker1558

3 ай бұрын

To be fair the book doesn't paint Paul as flawed or tragic either. It ends with him satisfyingly planting his boot on everyone's neck. Messiah flipping the script shouldn't be a mark against Lynch's portrayal, even if he had foreknowledge that even Frank himself might not have had before writing Messiah.

One of the biggest things missing from the new Dune (part 1 at least, I haven't seen part 2 just yet) is the fantastic distinctive score. The new score is fine, but nothing is as distinctive as the 84 Dune themes.

@dermagnus8482

3 ай бұрын

The new crap is hollow, soulless and full of diversity hires.

@throwback19841

3 ай бұрын

yeah Hans Zimmer has had a great career but all his scores just sound formulaic and repetitive now

@danielkubin3878

3 ай бұрын

The bigger issue which i have with new soundtrack, that its that you dont have a feeling that this is Zimmer work. And you have feeling and was mention by Zimmer itself, he create music as for these two movies as he understand and he did not expected that everyone should understand it. Basically how Lynch doing movies, he show as as he seeing this world, as he seeing a movie, but does not expeting that everyone would understand it. xD. That is probably reason why everyone think that Dune soundtrack is the weeakest one. In the end of that its just subjective opinion.

@user-ky3kj7pw4d

3 ай бұрын

@@throwback19841The Dune score is nothing like anything Hans Zimmer has ever made before. If you disagree with that then give actual examples. They invented whole new instruments to achieve that sound.

@johnran6015

3 ай бұрын

@@user-ky3kj7pw4d all it amounted to was BLAAARRRRBBBBBBBBBB BLAAAARRRRRBBBBBBB like the overdriven music is over compensating for the lack of any feeling coming off the screen.

The Spicediver cut is truest version of the movie. Anyone who wants as full a version as you can watch, this is the edit to watch.

@Janzer_

3 ай бұрын

i'ma do it and you can't stop me from watching it. but wutabout the AI "enhanced" 4k one that someone stole the spicediver version and used as their own?

@mainstreetsaint36

3 ай бұрын

@@Janzer_ either one is good.

@cpmf2112

3 ай бұрын

The 2000 and 2003 miniseries are the truest adaptation.

Best way to start the morning! An Oliver Harper Retrospective!!

when it comes to looks and design its better than any other versions

@jcp1984again

3 ай бұрын

Hard disagree on this. I dislike many aspects of this film's visual design. Denis Villeneuve's versions are the ones for me.

@SardaukarX

3 ай бұрын

@@jcp1984againAgreed 👍👍👍

I've said this before, Lynch's Dune has so much potential.

The design and world building is what elevates the movie for me. I wish we had the Space Guild in the Villeneuve one tho.🙁

For the time it was made, this movie is incredible.

"Dune, or Dune not, there is no try" - Cuisinart Bandersnatch

@ShaneyBright

3 ай бұрын

There is no try. There is only... Dune!😊

@bigmiket

3 ай бұрын

Best name ever. Sincerely, Gaylord LeCreuset

@cleverlydevisedmyth

3 ай бұрын

LOL I'm going to remember that one! :)

Looking back, it’s astonishing how often Siskel & Ebert got it wrong.

@Nukeskywalker45

2 ай бұрын

I strongly disagreed with them well over 90% of the time

The best thing about this 'Dune' is epic soundtrack, one of the best of all times!

Will always be my favorite book to movie adaption! This movie is Regal, Acting ,Sound,Costumes,most of the effects for the time, The additions Lynch made were great. "Long Live The Fighters!" Paul Muadib Atreides

My no1 guilty pleasure movie back in the day! I got so familiar with the script that I could almost rewrite it from memory like the Book of Eli if society ever collapsed. So then I started watching it in French (I cant speak French but I can describe the effects of Spice Production like a fake polyglot!)

Love these retro logo intros! First Cannon and now Orion! Next time it should be New World or Carolco!

Sting was very much trying to break into film for a while, I remember it well. Quadrophenia, Brimstone & Treacle, The Bride, Dune, and a couple of others. He did the whole morning chat-show circuit and everything to promote himself as being not just a musician. He was trying to do the renaissance-man thing, kind of like Phil Collins. He gave up when all the films ended up being commercial duds, though some of them like Quadrophenia were critical successes (his part in that was however pretty small).

Thanks so much, Oliver. You're by in large probably the best movie critic specifically with classic films. Just really appreciate your format, and your documentaries have been amazing with filling in a ton of info. Please keep up the excellent work, once again, thank you.

Can't help but love this movie. Literal chills when I hear the music.

The high quality of most of the cast overcomes alot of its shortcomings.

Really love your retrospective / review videos !

It was in my Top 3 for ages ... and still is. I have so much love for it. I think Kyle Mac Lachlan and especially Kenneth McMillan nail their performances like noone will do again.

Point of order Oliver: the plans of the weirding modules were hidden with the still suits on the shuttle that took Lady Jessica and Paul to exile in the desert, so they were able to recreate them. This was explicitly shown in the film.

@TENFUCK

3 ай бұрын

@lastgen2615 point of fact

What I would absolutely love is the new movies edited with the Toto and Eno music. I love the original score so much.

It's interesting that many reviewers at the time complained they didn't understand the story, and yet it is much clearer and more straightforward than the Villeneuve films, which haven't even explained why spice is worth fighting wars for. Dune 1984 contains all the necessary information; you just have to pay attention.

I love this movie. The design is familiar, yet alien. Futuristic art deco. And many of the performances, including Kyle McLaughlin, are fantastic. It's a gem in its own right.

You should definitely watch the 3 hour fan edit of the film. It's great.

@rogerwood5228

3 ай бұрын

Concur

I love how a new generation of DUNE fans are re-appraising Lynch's work positively, propelled by Villeneuve's more conventional adaptation giving them an understanding of the story and unhindered by awareness of the bad press. DUNE 1984 definitely has it's problems, but there's great stuff contained therein. I really hope Lynch returns to DUNE with modern techniques he could nail his vision finally.

Excellent

Jack Nance’s facial expressions throughout the film alone make it worth watching!

God, you're such a talented editor. Really a skill to envy, and shared by the greatest of movie makers only.

Thank you for making this video! Always appreciate your insight. I'm surprised that you have never covered this. This movie got me into the books and thus changed my world forever! 🤘😎

The music for Dune was mostly written by David Paich of Toto, rather than the whole band. He wrote it with the assistance of his father, who was a composer. David Lynch had played Paich the first movement of Shostakovich's 11th symphony (well worth hearing) and said he wanted the score to sound like that, but if you know the symphony you'll realise that most of the movie score is original. There have actually been two versions of the score put out on CD: the more well-known version, and a more extended limited edition released by Pendulum, which also had detailed notes about the writing and recording of the music; I am lucky enough to own both versions.

I started watching this weekly when I was 19 to 23 , back in the early 90s. Then in 2010 I found myself working the gate in Farah Afghanistan 🇦🇫. That's when I started watching this again. I even read the books there. Nothing better to pass the day stuck in the tower than imagining a sandworm tearing up the long range and airfield.

Saw this as a kid and have loved it ever since.

All your reviews are thorough, well researched and spot on.

I absolutely love your retrospectives, and when I saw this today I couldn’t believe you hadn’t done a Dune one yet!

For all its flaws, I must say I still prefer this adaptation of Dune over Denis Villeneuve's, because it fully embraces the book's inherent weirdness, whereas Villeneuve seems ashamed of it.

@youtubedj9298

3 ай бұрын

This movie is more interesting while Villeneuve appeals to a wider audience and therefore dumbs it down and makes it less special.

Wow. You've redone your retrospective review - now it's more complete and updated with latest movies. Great job! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Good to know Orson Welles contributed to the final script.

Brilliant work Oliver. You have really captured what makes Lynch's film a memorable experience after all these years. I still love it.

I'm glad you came back and did a longer review. When it would come on any of the cable channels, I would always make sure to watch the end credits. I like how they show the cast with that great music in the background.

I'm always excited when one of your retrospective videos come out. They are great!

I saw this movie in my very early teens, on rented VHS. It scarred me, informed me and shaped me - I immediately started reading the books. When I saw Star Wars a while later, also on VHS, it thought it was dull compared to Dune.

One of your best retrospectives in a long while

40 Years Ago, This year marks the anniversary of this masterpiece... Thanks David Lynch...

'Kept making trips to the bathroom for ANOTHER piss' has done me 🤣

Such a high quality review, as always. Thank you!

I actually went and saw an anniversary showing of Dune earlier this year in the theater. It was quite enjoyable on a big screen. Before the movie they had a seven minute video about the special effects.

This is indeed a muckup of a movie in many ways, yet... although I've enjoyed Villeneuve's take on Dune and found it very accessible regarding the story - sort of like that tv version which was hampered by a tv budget - I missed the DIFFERENCES in the Worlds on show here. The polished gold and jewels of the Emperor's palace, the wooden construction of House Atriedes and the full on steampunk aesthetic of the Harkonnen's lair... Oh, to be in an alternate dimension where all 3 of these versions could take the best of each other and be one glorious whole!

I watched this film for the first time after seeing Dune Part 2. I knew going in that it would feel crammed because a long complex book was adapted into a single film but didn't expect other issues like the large amount of exposition and inner monologue moments. If I hadn't read the book and seen the newer films I feel like I would've been a little confused watching Dune 84. However despite the film being a mess I do admire the flair that David Lynch brought to the production design, the insane sci-fi elements, a good cast and the film's score

I didn't even remember that THE UDO KIER was supposed to be in Jodorowsky's DUNE, but it makes sense, that man is the most underappreciated working actor living today. A true Directors Actor, a man who will always deliver a stellar performance no matter how bad the written material is. One of the GOATs along with Clancy Brown.

@mainstreetsaint36

3 ай бұрын

Kier reminds me a lot of Peter Lorre. That intensity with the eyes.

Saw it in the theaters as a kid - loved it. What I didn’t fully understand then, I eventually did and it never changed my perception. As an adult, I still love it. Proud to have it in my physical media collection. Still have my Baron Harkonnen figure as well. This is one of the earliest examples that I remember where I didn’t bother anymore with these paid movie ‘critics’ - because their opinion and mine (along with others) were usually wrong. This movie was no exception. Paid ‘critics’ opinions did nothing for me. This movie is still great and with a hell of a soundtrack to boot.

Always a good day when there's a new Oliver Harper retrospective!

This movie had the absolute best trailer ever.

I always loved that Elephant Man ends with a shot from the stars and this film begins with a shot from the stars

we are blessed to have such films like this creators like Lynch.

I watch a lot of videos on KZread at 2x speed. I watched this video at normal speed to savor every moment of this bit of nostalgia. I saw this movie in theaters at 10 years old. It’s really hitting it’s been 40 years since then.

Nobody makes a first entrance like Sean Young; DUNE,Blade Runner.

The Heart Plug Scene - the only make up sfx that makes me feel sick......very effective.

I'm not a fan of dune but I love this movie, the visuals are spectacular. I'll always remember the navigator in his tank, nothing in the new films compares.

I thought the special effects of some of the ships, the costume designe, sets, and music erre better in the Lynch version than in the new films.

Excellent video, mate. Cheers!

I prefer this version over the Denis Villeneuve movies, it nails the atmosphere annd feeling of the source material far better even if it takes liberties with the plot

About a month ago i saw this in theaters for a 40th anniversary showing. As a kid i loved the movie and then proceeded to read the book 16 times it's one of my favorite books. The recent Dune part 2 in imax was SO well made, it was funny watching the 84 Lynch version a few weeks before seeing Denis' version. What a difference 40 years has made in the movie industry🤣

Love the intro! I haven't seen an Oliver Harper video since I was a kid, so I don't know how new that is lol

Love the new logo and OUTSTANDING retrospective as ALWAYS

That Sîan Phillips frustrated growl at the end is great though!

I’m glad you did a re retrospective, I need more from the first one

My friends and I were so excited to see this in the cinema, and absolutely loved it. I was a sci-fi nut, and most of them were into fantasy. None of us had read the books, and had no trouble following the story. Haven't seen it in a few years, looking forward to checking out the Spicediver edit sometime. Also, the soundtrack was the first CD I ever bought!

I am really glad you covered this. I've always enjoyed the David Lynch version, but haven't watched it in a year or two now. I just saw part 1 and 2 back to back of the new DUNE films, so it was perfect timing. It was good to get a refresher on the '84 version and see what had changed.

I watched it for the first time last month. To me it’s Frank Herbert’s Dune on Flash Gordon (1980) infused bath salts. A film that can only be enjoyed by taking it at its surface; go any deeper and you will be greeted by a neglectful void. What ruins the experience of this film are the constant voice overs spewing information in an attempt to heal the irreparable convoluted narrative. Remove the futile narrative hand-holding, and commit to the surreal nature of its surface, and you have something special here, something I could have loved.

@123612100

3 ай бұрын

To be honest that makes it more faithful to the book.

Always loved this film, own all cinematic versions,, waiting for part two on home video, re-read the books every couple of years, very thorough video 👍🏼

an exhaustive and highly nuanced review...thankyou!

Much appreciated sir. Keep up the exceptional work.

Welcome back, Oliver!

Regardless its faults I have had endless admiration for this film always and I’d rather watch it over the new films a thousand times over. It’s got magic, style and pathos that films made today can only dream about. Every time I watch it takes me to an incredible journey. Thanks for the great video!

Outstanding, balanced and informative review!

I've always enjoyed this film for its unique imagery and music. In fact, there's a lot from this film that I prefer over the new two-part film. I was able to follow the story pretty well, even though I could still tell that elements were rushed. When it comes to the story of the novel, Dune, I've always felt that it should've been an animated mini-series or a full season of a show. The reason I would prefer it to be animated is that the novel (from what I've read and heard about) is so rich with detail and depth that it would be impossible to do it all justice in live-action. Another reason is that authors like Frank Herbert and even Edgar Rice Burroughs and Isaac Asimov, when they were writing their stories, never had to worry about budget, location scouting, or set construction. They just let their stories develop and grow. Also, animation is more respected now in the West (more so in the East, such as Japan, but still) and the medium has visually developed as well, so you could get away with making an animated adaptation of a big story such as Dune.