We're getting a lot of new viewers with this episode, welcome! We test a lot of different power tools, not just air hammers. *But what is an air hammer?* Well, works like a hammer to bust things free. In automotive we use them to push ball-joints out, free corroded bolt-in wheel hubs or bust off rusted brake discs. Often places you don't have space to swing a sledge on anything that SHOULD have come off but isn't. Hope you guys like tools from the tool truck. Over the next several weeks we're including offerings from Mac, Snap-On, Mac, Mac, Cornwell, Snap-On, Matco, Snap-On, Matco, Snap-on & Matco! Torque of TTC is working for Astro Tools who also make air hammers (but not this .401" size). TTC is not the only testing out there, always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!

@jonnda

2 жыл бұрын

I look forward to seeing how the snap on air hammer does. I spent a lot of beans on that tool, it'd be a shame if it got beat by some Amazon branded tool.

@johnb1121

2 жыл бұрын

I can honestly say the sunex air hammer was not good at all maybe it was the shop air but the snap on never had a problem yet 🙊🙊🙊

@1FaSS01

2 жыл бұрын

When you say astro and ' not .401' you refer to the BIG NASTY!!! 🤣🤣🤣

@Fly2kill1

2 жыл бұрын

If you mention Doug you have to say “this is the”

@disgruntledegghead6923

2 жыл бұрын

Personally, I've shyed away from the tool trucks and their exorbitant prices. Unless it's a specialty tool and they have it on the truck when I need it (18.5/19.5mm flip socket anyone?) I hardly step foot on their trucks. Besides, I've already spent too much and then way too much more. But I do enjoy watching the comparisons!

Me, not knowing anything about air hammers, only here because of the algorithm: "Ah yes, BCS. Well done Harbor Freight."

@zoinksxscooby

2 жыл бұрын

😂 same

@skyline_supra_guy3756

2 жыл бұрын

It seems similar to a rivet hammer. You can get riveting inserts for it. I personally haven't used this style of hammer/rivet gun and apparently they aren't excellent for installing rivets but it gets the job done!

@mattmain237

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@sheepdogoutdoors7006

2 жыл бұрын

I'm just upset that I've worked in so many shops and had no idea this existed.

@Cbsaiyan

2 жыл бұрын

Lmfao

That chief is about to be sold out everywhere.

@dancearoundtheworld5360

2 жыл бұрын

Cashier asks why im buying four

@burtreynolds3143

2 жыл бұрын

watch the price go up

@burtreynolds3143

2 жыл бұрын

$139.99 as of the posting date 10/29/2021. Let's watch and see what happens!

@CBtheMechanic_

2 жыл бұрын

@@burtreynolds3143 bought my Chief 2 mos ago. I love it

@burtreynolds3143

2 жыл бұрын

@@CBtheMechanic_ bought mine a year or more but didn't use it until this summer when I had a set of brake discs so frozen I had to get the torch out and the Chief finished them off !

As a mechanic myself. HOW did I never think to do look up this kind of channel?! I always just needed a tool, and bought it where ever was most convenient, cheap or quick. You are doing a service for Mechanics, Do it yourselfers, and other skilled trade workers everywhere.

"Tool Truck" CEO: Hi er... great review. I'm always happy to see our tools perform well. I was wondering if you could send us your exact residential home address... We would like to send you a... present! You know... for doing such a great job!

@The_Mimewar

2 жыл бұрын

INCOMING!!

@gitit20x2

2 жыл бұрын

Breaking News Man found dead in home, no obvious cause of death investigation ongoing.

@Balancer48

2 жыл бұрын

Death now appears to be due to a series of 3/4” impacts. Film at 11

@dsandoval9396

2 жыл бұрын

@@Balancer48 "After the autopsy was conducted the medical examiner reported the victim was, 'screwed'."

@lmsubman243

2 жыл бұрын

Make sure it goes by the 'sniffer dog', first!

I feel like this should be on ESPN 8, the Ocho.

@paulgardner5079

2 жыл бұрын

dodge dip duck dive and dodge

@jeffreyhill1011

2 жыл бұрын

I like where you went with this, but this deserves to be on ESPN2 at least

@Hipsters_N_Hippies

2 жыл бұрын

What are you doing here sir?

Back when I had more time I fixed pneumatic guns. Had 2 roofing nailers on the bench. One was a Ridgid and the other was a Porter Cable. Rebuilt the Ridgid first, and when I took apart the Porter Cable it has the exact same internals as the Ridgid even though the body was shaped differently. Ridgid rebuild kits were less expensive so every time I would get a Porter Cable in I saved the customer a little money with the Ridgid kit.

I used to work for a guy who was a VP of Engineering for a US Steel subsidiary, one that made semi-finished parts for other companies (he left and started his own company in a different field, which was when I worked for him). He told me a story about harrow blades, those round smooth or notched blades used by farmer, arranged in rows and pulled by tractors. They made identical, interchangeable blades for 2 companies to sell, (think John Deere and New Holland, but I don't remember the exact companies). The blades were not finalized, not smoothed and painted and the like, but could have been used 'as is'. While the blades were interchangeable, they were different in a subtle way. Company A paid for the blades by the count, so 100 blades cost say $1,000. Company B paid for the blades by weight, so say 20 blades cost $1,000. So, to maximize the profits for US Steel, they did the following: The Company A blades were made as thin as specification would allow, to use the least steel in each blade. Meanwhile, Company B blades were made as thick as possible, so that fewer blades wold be needed to be made. So, while the blades were interchangeable, the Company B blades were stronger, and would last longer, because more steel was used in each blade. So, 'made in the same factory' does not always mean identical.

@danieldoucet9121

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, but you're talking about big hunks of metal compared to small tools comprising of smaller machined parts.

@Diffidentone

2 жыл бұрын

@@danieldoucet9121 But the cheaper one is made with cheaper quality, less robust parts. Like less quality bearings/bushings/brushes to wear out faster, thinner metal housing, etc. I've had many a harbor freight tool and sure they do the job but they are not going to be doing many jobs without work needing to be done like new brushes on the motor or new bearings put in. I have some of their cordless drills and electric grinders and such and have replaced the motor brushes more times than I care to remember. That is why harbor freight actually has on their shelves the new brushes for the motors in their cordless drills and such. Most people would just throw the tool out and buy a new one which is what they really count on. The brushes are so cheaply made you can actually scrape them down with just your fingernail hence why they wear out so fast. Another example is Harbor freight brand 12 volt battery chargers, I've not had a one of those last more than a dozen battery charges before it is kaput so I do not buy any of those from them any more.

@Kai-K

2 жыл бұрын

For frozen pizzas at the store, the ones that cost $1 and taste like cardboard are made at the same factory as the ones that cost more than $6 and use entirely different ingredients (dough, cheese, sauce, toppings, everything)

@danieldoucet9121

2 жыл бұрын

@@Diffidentone When it comes to cordless tools you certainly get what you pay for. I buy Snap On cordless stuff and they get used A LOT every day (I am a reefer van trailer tech). I have 1 charger that has kept the batteries charged for 3 years. Can't imagine getting only 12 charges. On the other hand, I have been using the same $50 30 piece wrench set for 26 years and the 9/16 just broke last week. The Snap On equivalent would be $1500. Both brands have lifetime warranty. Sorry, but no wrenches are worth that to me. Same as sockets, ratchets, etc. We have Canadian Tire brand here, all lifetime warranty, frequently come on sale for 50, 60, even 70% off. I literally have tools from them that are older than most of my co-workers.

@danieldoucet9121

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kai-K What does cardboard taste like ?

The Ingersoll Rand 114GQC Air Hammer kzread.infoUgkxqqoaX03nrziKwF7Bjjcc71YzLEleMvOS was just the tool I needed. I Use it to remove stuck bolts. If held at the right angle you can cut slightly into the bolt. Then turn the air hammer to where it will hammer the stuck bolt to unspin the bolt. Given a little practice it works great. This air hammer gives you the control needed to get the job done right. Very powerful yet still does not seem to have as much vibration as other guns I have used. One of the best I have gotten my hands on.

15 years ago I remember that I had my $20 dollar for the kit in a case Hft 3/8th" air ratchet on the workbench, and a coworker put their $180 bare tool tool truck version down near it. I noticed the similarities, and when I looked closer I found it came out of the same mold, you could see where the mold for the metal shell was scratched, and both had the same scratches showing. The only difference was that the tool truck one had the brand name cast into the side of the gear case, while the Hft just had a sticker in that location. Looking close you could see that there was a removable puck in the mold that could be swapped out for different brands, and Hft just got the smooth generic version off the same machine. And his broke first lol

I remember reading an interview with Eric Smidt. When he took over as CEO in 2001 he talked about how HF could never survive under the current model at the time. That they would have to expand and improve quality. I wish I could find the evidence, but I'm fairly certain that some of the Pittsburgh line is made in the old Taiwan Craftsman factories.

@caddyguy5369

2 жыл бұрын

I remember getting a couple emails that were letters from him. I think I remember one being printed in the flyer about expanding on availability of replacement parts.

They found the same thing with HF and Snap On floor jacks a couple of years ago but found the only difference was the paint and stickers. Oh and the 500 dollar mark up.

@TorqueTestChannel

2 жыл бұрын

The floor jacks were sort of same subject different story. HF bought jacks from the same factory as Snap-On, then went on to advertise that on the front page of their flyers and website saying they are the same. Snap-On felt called out and sued over it. Simply buying from the same factory is normal business as usual, saying tools are exactly the same steps on some legal departments' toes whether that's justified or not. In this air hammer case, they don't even correctly point to a good comparison on the HF website. I sort of question whether it was on purpose to buy the Mac air hammer or dumb luck. Because they certainly point to other more comparable call out tools elsewhere on their site.

@honchoryanc

2 жыл бұрын

And walmart just started selling them for 170

@svn5994

2 жыл бұрын

But it says Snap On so it must be safer!!! /s

@burtreynolds3143

2 жыл бұрын

@@TorqueTestChannel My bet is dumb luck. (Unless their legal dept. is that savvy to compare to the wrong thing on purpose.)

@snap-off5383

2 жыл бұрын

@@TorqueTestChannel That doesn't sound like the story I read at all. By the time Eric put it in the flyer that they were the same jack, the lawsuit was long over. The lawsuit was over copyrighted design elements (the patents on the jack design are long expired) of the jack being copied, and the court ruled they'd changed enough to not be copying snap-on's trademarked design elements. (you can make a les paul guitar, but not one with Gibson's trademarked headstock, because its a "design element".) Where can I read about harbor freight advertising them as "same as snap-on"?

You are putting pressure on tool manufacturers to check their prices and ensure quality vs cost is in line with the rest of the manufactures claims. Really dig the progress so far, been here since the beginning and I can say you have cornered the market for tool tests by far! All tool companies should be taking notes!!!

@MrPePeLePuo

2 жыл бұрын

BOLTR by AvE takes the cake for tool reviews but torque test is close ;)

@bumble3984

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrPePeLePuo I have to agree AVE's (older videos anywayt-haven't kept up) are the gold standard. This was excellently done as well however, i appreciate the lack of fluff and the attention paid by not only graphing the results, but then organizing the table for us more visual types.

@LemonySnicket-EUC

19 күн бұрын

​@@MrPePeLePuohe rambles on way too much.

I can confirm that the chief trigger is brutal; It’s all or nothing when it comes to trying to lightly start hammering anything.

I got a chief long barrel open box for $80 and I love it. More power than I’ll need, and I can break some concrete if I wanted to

@charlesdjones1

2 жыл бұрын

Always that one guy that paid 10% of what everyone else paid on every tool video guaranteed lol

@formu1fan

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlesdjones1 it’ll be you one day too!

@charlesdjones1

2 жыл бұрын

@@formu1fan yes I've been that guy too lol

From my experience in testing pneumatic and electric tools. I’ve seen that a lot of manufacturers will do what they call “branding” which is they buy from someone else test the tool and then engineering will ask for subtle changes to get the tool to run according to their standards. I think it’s great that you noticed that.

@marcogenovesi8570

2 жыл бұрын

that's some very subtle changes there. Apart from trigger that is

@MiGujack3

2 жыл бұрын

This happens a lot with the popular "mini lathe", there is a lot of variation in those and it's hard to notice.

@atomicskull6405

2 жыл бұрын

@heldgop They may be subject to a more rigorous quality control process as well. I know that is the case for Grizzly tools, the client has their own people go out to the factory and skim the best units from the production runs for their brand. Apparently the quality variance is pretty wide but the Grizzly branded ones seem better because the buyer is checking the units and taking the best ones.

I have tool truck air hammers and the Chief and I must say I was surprised by the power of the Chief especially for the price.

@TorqueTestChannel

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Clay, big fans here. Thanks for stopping by! We're quoting one of your vids in one we're working on now and rightly shouting you out. Yeah, the Chief is a lot of beans per dollar.

@MrSupernova111

2 жыл бұрын

Bruh!

@bradleymichaelw9416

2 жыл бұрын

Mississippi represent!

@bluesky-ud9wg

2 жыл бұрын

Longevity is the important thing though. How will it be in 2 years?

@andrewfidel2220

2 жыл бұрын

@@bluesky-ud9wg other than the trigger assembly it's identical so unless the simpler trigger mechanism is somehow the weak link I think they'll perform the same.

That actually turned out to be a pretty interesting video, when you got into the subtle differences of essentially the same tools, and looking at the manuals to confirm suspicions. So I guess I have to decide if a trigger capable of slow speed is worth $145 to me...

@steffenf.7031

2 жыл бұрын

not really. what you truly have to decide is whether a much worse trigger, and 700 psi more in max power is worth an additional 7$

@YungSteambuns

2 жыл бұрын

if you buy the chief you can use the $145 to buy a low powered one like the sunex or harbor freight, or a nice air regulator

@emerkamp1

2 жыл бұрын

This still tells nothing about quality.

@Bizkit-ey8tw

2 жыл бұрын

@@emerkamp1 I've been using a Cheif air hammer professionally in a auto repair shop in the rust belt for close to a year now. It gets used extensively several or more days a week. Hasn't lost a bit of power yet. Quality so far has been great for the Chief in my case at least.

2 people in my shop have the mac air hammer $550 canadian and they are always saying it's the best air hammer out there. Im pretty happy with my IR 118max right now. 180 for the kit when it went on sale

@kevinblackwell4617

2 жыл бұрын

@@bad1971nova I agree, I bought snap-on air tools (not wrenches, sockets, or cordless) because I could get them fixed in or out of warranty no problem.

@mikeday8826

2 жыл бұрын

The Mac 20v impacts have a 3 year warranty.

@bad1971nova

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeday8826 I have lifetime..

@mikeday8826

2 жыл бұрын

@@bad1971nova I guess you're special.

@johnmorrow1628

2 жыл бұрын

I mean if i could get life time warranty on air tools off the trucks where I live I would do that. But that's not the case for me it's usually 1 to 2 years I mainly have aircat and IR tools because they are cheap and reliable and have the same warranty as the trucks. Yes I have to send it in but I just buy a back air tool for cheaper then the tool trucks. 2 for the price of 1 ;)

I've been using the Chief air hammer in a professional setting for about a year and a half now. Still Performs well. This review matches what I've noticed using it. Very powerful (and much quieter than the IR 114gqc it replaced), however trigger control is terrible. More of an on/off switch than any modular control. This is typically fine for 95% of applications in automotive though.

Anyone else remember when HF sold name brand tools? They used to have factory 2nd Hobart welders and New IR impact wrenches. Still have my IR impact wrench (I don't remember the number) that I got for $79 at HF many years ago, I love it.

@mikesweet5848

2 жыл бұрын

That's interesting. Their product lineup is always evolving.

@MrTheHillfolk

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't get it at HF but I love my IR-111 reactionless air ratchet. Not sure why they never caught on,but I love not busting knuckles with it.

@SciFiSecrets

2 жыл бұрын

well they got their name from buying unclaimed, damaged, insured, and whatever else shipping containers, and selling whatever was inside, in their stores. They were kinda like costco, just buying whatever was a really good deal, and reselling it. But now they are too big for that, so you dont see the name brand stuff anymore.

@SquishyZoran

2 жыл бұрын

I never saw that before

@SegoMan

2 жыл бұрын

The name brand air hoses are gone and it don't take long for their hoses to sun rot.

Factory 2nds. There was a time when the name brand companies tool lines would be getting only the manufacturer’s top tier, most accurately made parts. The discount brands would get the lower tolerance/blemished stuff. In HF’s case, about 15 years ago, it seemed like they were buying the factory rejects exclusively. They’ve come a long way since then.

@zachman9251

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t know why that just blew my mind

@notanavrageloser

2 жыл бұрын

I have mixed feelings about them moving up-market.

@jonyemm

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt they were factory seconds. Very well may be made of steel and other materials that aren't of the sane quality/composition though. Harbor freight sells way to many identical tools for them to be factory seconds. I've also never seen marks on the cases where logos were ground off.

@flagmichael

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonyemm Most tools are made in shops that make tools for multiple companies. My son worked in one of those.

@jonyemm

2 жыл бұрын

@@flagmichael I'm aware of that. No where on my comment did i say I think they are made in different shops. I disagree with the person who made the main comment though about HFs tools being factory seconds. Likely made in the same shop, with the same tools, same molds, but likely with different grade components(or maybe even the same for some parts)

In my experience there are quite a few HF tools where the primary difference between them and the expensive equivalent is the fit and finish of the construction. Sometimes this makes a difference, sometimes it doesn't. Often there will be quite a bit of quality variation within a production run. But if you're short on money and your time is cheap you can often bring them up to snuff with fairly minor modifications.

I remember reading that HarborFreight said their floor jacks were the same as tool truck brands. That they buy directly from the manufacturer. So they can skip the cost of the middle man. So it applies to other products also. Maybe even some rejected designs they buy for cheap and save on the R&D costs.

@madmatt2024

2 жыл бұрын

I remember reading somewhere that Snap-On actually sued Harbor Freight over their Daytona jack because it looked exactly the same as one that Snap-On sold. Turns out, Harbor Freight was simply buying a pre-existing design option from the same company that produces Snap-On's jacks. Needless to say, Snap-On didn't win that lawsuit.

@jonmayer

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, it's a crapshoot sometimes but harbor freight can have some great tools sometimes.

@robertrada4783

2 жыл бұрын

You have to be careful with that though. When outsourced, products can be spec’d out down to the washers. In woodworking, outside of Hammer, the stationary machinery companies moved to an outsourced model. The products all look the same in photographs but in person they are quite different from each other. So if you are looking at 98 individual parts, each part can have 100 options. And then from their, you can choose the tolerance, finish, alloy, weld quality, seasoning and so forth of that one option of that one part. I’ve gotten things like scissor lift carts and dollies from Harbor Freight. I got more miles out of them than what I paid for, but they were clearly spec’d waaaay down to get to that price point.

I ended up buying my rolling tool chest at Harbor Freight, because it actually had better reviews online than the comparable one from the big brand. It was also a good deal cheaper, to the point that for the price of 1 of the big brand, I could buy 4 and still have enough to buy some matching accessories.

cant wait for the snap on test. my rep is constantly bragging about their air hammer and how good it is.

@SpeedDemon88X

2 жыл бұрын

It's the best I've ever used.

@yalantyr25

2 жыл бұрын

IMO it's much better than the aircat air hammer, which I THINK is the same company as Mac Tools air hammer Someone correct me if I'm wrong

@laukc7085

2 жыл бұрын

@@SpeedDemon88X I've used an IR, Cornwell Tools, Snap On, and I currently have a Matco air hammer. The Snap On and Matco seem to have the best triggers, but just from using them, I couldn't tell which one has more "power" Looking forward to finding out though.

My boy just mentioned daddy Doug. Bless. 🙏

I am retired from the tool business but my sons run the business now. A very good friend of mine and former neighbor is an executive at snap on tool if he hasn’t retired recently. I can assure you that the tool truck sellers probably don’t even realize that the namebrand tools that they sell are made by contract companies that make tools for everyone who so desires them. I sold tools from major manufacturers and I dealt with manufactures reps and once you get to know them you find out who their company makes tools for. When my former neighbor was a sales person for them he didn’t drive a tool truck he drove a regular car and called on big industry like steel mills. The exact tools that the truck seller sold he sold at 40% less. And I can understand why he was salaried and the tool truck guys needed to make a living so that’s why the tools for more. There’s a lot more to this than most people understand.

Congrats on winning the algorithm lottery! Good video, I figured there would be only be a couple factories that make some of these specialty tools. Special tools as in not used by most households - usually mechanics or shops only.

I saw this result coming a mile away. I will say that in the air hammer the nice trigger control in my world is who gives a crap. My world is Diesel mechanic. The nice quiet dainty air hammer usually finds itself in a shallow unmarked grave never to be heard from again. My arch enemy is nature's lock tight, RUST

@justarandomguy3969

2 жыл бұрын

MORE POWAH BABY!

@anthny577

2 жыл бұрын

I suggest patience and a combination of PT Blaster and an induction coil...

@xX_MC_OvU_PvP_YT_Xx

2 жыл бұрын

i love the way you speak

@nitroustommy3668

2 жыл бұрын

CP717 zip gun is the only way to go.

@esra9426

Жыл бұрын

My opinion is that as someone else also in diesel, is that either I need full power, or a I can tap it out with a normal hammer There really is no in-between

I just picked up the chief at my local HFT, I had to after watching this. If I don’t like it I have 90 days which they graciously give. Thank TTC for your hard work.

This channel has made us guys and gals that use and buy these tools so happy..and also not wondering about who's who..can't deny real results!! Thaks ttc

I remember my dad telling me they had a school trip to factory that made fabric softeners. They literally had one giant vat in the middle, and from that, pipes that went to filling machines with each having different brand on it. Also some "cheap" or "unreputable" tools are actually pretty decent, like Lidl in EU for example. They are really, really cheap but actually very well made, and their Black line ("professional") feels to me as good as DeWalt for example.

this is why I love makita, because they make their own tools and they care

@alexmills1329

2 жыл бұрын

And they aren’t owned by China yet

@UncleIvan1

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexmills1329 lol they do manufacture it in China for everyone else, they keep the good stuff for the Japanese

@svn5994

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexmills1329 And yet still make everything for everyone outside of China in China, Mexico, Taiwan, Etc. Argument invalid.

@christiansprojects-cgmanuf1426

2 жыл бұрын

Around here in Europe, Metabo is a good choice. I have several cordless tools from Metabo, the more expensive ones are still made in Germany.

@transdimensionalist

2 жыл бұрын

i like metabo also have some of their drills and an angle grinder but they seem to have been merged with hitachi/hikoki rectently?

never looked for this but glad is showed up. thank you and keep up the great work!

I picked up a freshly rebuilt Mac MPH1911 off the truck for $180, and have absolutely zero complaints at that price point. It's saved the day on more than enough occasions to pay for itself. If I wasn't getting a deal along with the convenience of the truck showing up every week, I was going to get the Ingersoll 119.

You know what would be another cool subject to test would be pry bars. Who makes the best pry bars that can hold up to the most pressure before being bent permanently or breaking.

@johnpope4824

2 жыл бұрын

I suggest asking Project Farm for this. But tests like this would be very dangerous considering the spring loads involved.

This is the video I have been waiting for ! Been dying to see how the Chief measured up. Full disclosure: I already own it. Got it a about a year or two ago under $100. Are you applying for the witness protection program now ? Maybe a body guard ?

One of my sons worked in a well-known tool manufacturing house in Montana. He said it was one of his favorite jobs. They made tools for a large number of tool companies, usually completing runs for more than one tool company (all of which I recognized when he mentioned them) in a single night. That is not to say they are identical. They each had their own specifications, including the steel they use.

I have the Chief air hammer. It's a beast. I've had decent luck with HF air tools. If they work out of the box, they will keep working for a very long time. The little air die grinders are a bargain...haven't worn one out yet.

@1337penguinman

2 жыл бұрын

Same here, except I'm pretty sure I got a bad angle grinder as it broke w/in a week. My air ratchets are all HF Central Pneumatic and most of them I've had over a year and they get used daily. Plus, for $20 if they break I'm not overly worried about it.

@IMKINDOFABIGDEAL13

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the cheap die grinders kick ass. I bought a nice blue point one off the tool truck for about 150 bucks and it crapped out within a year. Got it replaced and the replacement crapped out also while the harbor freight cheapo still worked and I bought it before the first blue point

@gavinatkins2671

Жыл бұрын

My needle thingy died pretty quick 🥲

Been buying alot of mayhew and lisle tools that matco and other tool trucks sell marked up. Same quality tools at a fraction the price, but the warranty isn't always as easy. HF is the easiest of box stores warranties so their products similar to tool truck quality would be great buys! Good find.

@TorqueTestChannel

2 жыл бұрын

You just gotta purchase the warranty and FIND those diamonds in the rough there. Always tricky, but you get rewarded for your efforts when you find em

@-tr0n

2 жыл бұрын

Depending on your driver, they probably have access to a 3rd party catalogue. I buy all sorts of tools, lisle, grey pneumatic, ezred etc etc from the trucks. The warranty obviously isn't as good, but the driver takes care of it 100%, no shipping things off to the US at 50% of the retail cost etc. Give it a shot.

@z33tanner

2 жыл бұрын

@@-tr0n Not a bad idea at all, i know my snap on and cornwell dealer both have 3rd party catalogs. I have a broken mountian ratcheting wrench that i need replaced under warranty but can't get ahold of mfg or seller so i was looking to just buy the individual wrench, can't even find that online!

When I worked in a shop my chief air hammer was my favorite tool. You feel like a viking using it on wheel bearings lmao

"Little Bantam" and it's bigger air tool brothers have been made here in the Cleveland area for a very long time by Superior Tool Company. I love their stuff since discovering them in the late 70's. Great service as well.

That chief tool is great. I’ve used it to blast out ball joints and free up stuck intermediate shaft cv axles.

This is common with many things. Back when VCRs were in fashion the inner workings were all made by one company. The icemaker in my freezer works in about two hundred makes and models. Thanks.

@filanfyretracker

2 жыл бұрын

Just like how LCD panels are only made by a very small number of companies. Despite being the common fighting flagship phone companies, iPhones have more than a few parts from Samsung. Samsung is one the few memory fabs as well.

@SenselessUsername

2 жыл бұрын

One japanese company (YKK) makes currently 40% of all zips for all clothes in the world! Used to be more, but its competitor SBS has now about 25%, plus there's dozens of chinese ripoff companies with names like YQQ. Check your zippers, all the good ones will say YKK (and some of the bad ones --- YKK makes for all budgets/specifications, but all their competitors are at the low end).

Would love to see AVE do a teardown of both, looking at the fit and finish to see if maybe one might wear out faster than the other.

@justink3680

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@calculator1841

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely

@PWN_Nation

2 жыл бұрын

tool teardowns on my fireplace channel?? What, are you a Communist?

@Hojjiifp

2 жыл бұрын

The mother fucking tools are twins....

I have a (now older but still fully functional) Matco long barreled air hammer. It gets with it. Paid a lot less than the current Mac ("the times, they are a changin' "). The Harbor Freight tool will get most things done. Obviously, being the same basic tool. There have to be some design changes to avoid legal issues and saving costs as well. Unless you are constantly doing very controlled work, I'd be happy with it and there are constantly coupons and inside track club sales (Worth the cost if you buy many items there at all) of up to 35%, usually 20% off. It's where the rubber beats the toad, engineering a better trigger costs money. Ergonomics and pretty costs money for things like subtle improvements to the body/grip, etc. of tools and, of course, visual appeal. If you can live with the rougher trigger then, absolutely, the Harbor Freight is just fine. You need to be working with the tool and making money with it, in a way that requires the better trigger, to make spending that much more (plus another 20% for a coupon) really worth while and I can't see what that would be. It's an air hammer and you're buying one like that "for the beans." Use a smaller hammer if you need to have less power applied.

This has been a video I’ve been waiting for for a long time. Can’t wait for the next air hammer video hopefully it’ll come sooner than last time

@TorqueTestChannel

2 жыл бұрын

Air hammers take awhile to prioritize because new impacts and lights come out every week, while air hammers will pretty much always be the short list of tools we're working through

@steverothgery3234

2 жыл бұрын

@@TorqueTestChannel Of course I understand at the end of the day it’s your channel. I have loved the contact so far. Keep up with the amazing work

I have both a Matco and a Snapon. The Matco only comes out when something makes me mad because it destroys everything I put it near. I daily drive the older version Matco which does a really good job 98% of the time.

I have noticed the exact same thing between the die grinders between chief and Mac. They are the exact same. At close to a 1/3rd of the price!

@TorqueTestChannel

2 жыл бұрын

The aluminum body HF ones? They dont seem to last though

Took me until now to realize your logo says TTC. Nice. Love it.

I have a Snap-on long barrel with a rotating thing at the bottom to limit power. I love that gun!

Great work as always

The weirdest thing about the modern era is "no name" products being good, and the people who make them caring ZERO about having a brand. I think a lot of us would be fine buying some rando Chinese company product by a Chinese company name, but I think the actual issue is they want the brands to be disposable. Maybe they've learn all it takes is one bad product to kill your brand on Amazon and Ali baba, etc, so they made disposable brands. I have bought so many things, things like pet feeders, that have been fantastic, then you go to get a replacement and the brand is no longer around but you can clearly find the product under another company name with some searching.

Always great to uncover best value deals and huge rebrand rip offs. Thanks!

Glorious. I have a Chief and always thought it was stupid powerful. Great to hear I'm not crazy. Also kinda want an IR now...

So really between these two, you're paying for better trigger control

@TorqueTestChannel

2 жыл бұрын

And yet the $135 IR has better trigger control than either

@notanavrageloser

2 жыл бұрын

And the idea that the tool truck will come to you if you have any problems. But I never see the Snap-On truck that’s supposed to come to my workplace ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@fredygump5578

2 жыл бұрын

Really you are paying for the tool to be delivered to your shop once a week for like 1 year....waiting for the day you finally break down and decide you actually do need an air hammer.

This is sure to open a rabbit hole but I would love to see some aircraft rivet guns in these tests.

I love that “the beans” is catching on

Thanks so much for this one guys. Very happy I bought the Chief.

Have you ever thought of comparing SDS Drills in chisel/hammer mode vs Air Hammers? I find it odd that the general belief is that a SDS plus drill in chisel/hammer mode can drive a ground rod, but a air hammer cannot. Really curious about the Ridgid Octane Rotary Hammer R86711B, actually these rotary hammers are something you could test with rotational torque as well , might be a new category for you!!

Ive looked pretty deep into tools before, I found that anything from Mac that’s not a hand tool can be found for less under a different brand. All their electric tools are just dewalt

I bought that exact Mac Tools air hammer for $100 on eBay. It was listed as “broken” so I figured since air hammers are kind of “simple” I could fix it. I got it, threw some air on it and… I can’t find a damn thing wrong with it, lol. It works great and it was just a little dirty (grease) and looks almost brand new after I cleaned it up. No idea why the pawn shop listed it as “broken” but whatever. For $100 I got a sweeeeeet deal! 😎

@TorqueTestChannel

2 жыл бұрын

9/10 these things blow air when there's an issue and it's just the hammer slug inside stuck for a second from sitting for awhile and oxidizing. A simple rap with a dead blow on the side and they start up. Look up any popular air hammer on amazon, 75% of the 1 star reviews are people blowing air with the trigger then sending it back like a bunch of bozo's. It's a steel slug in a steel cylinder, just get it moving!

@frankthespank

2 жыл бұрын

@@TorqueTestChannel Yep! I ran a good amount of Mac Tools air tool oil (I got a giant bottle of it for $20 on eBay) through it when I first got it and like I said before, it’s never had any problems, it hits like a jackhammer and solves any problem I can throw at it. I think you’ve solved the mystery, if so many people return air hammers because they’re stuck (most likely because they’re dry) then I bet that pawn shop tested it on their air and it was stuck and marked it as “broken”. It’s rare to win one over a pawn shop 😆 so I’ll take a W when I can. Thanks for solving my little mystery, your explanation makes total sense. I’m gonna use this air hammer and just enjoy it, it’s a lot better than the $8 Harbor Freight air hammer it replaced. 😎 (BTW Great videos with amazing content! Keep up the great work!)

me and a buddy at work discovered this a few weeks when i bought a chief. cool video!

Snap-Chief. Nice work by Harbor Freight!

Couldn’t you just add a flow control to the inlet on the chief to lower the output?

@inkman996

2 жыл бұрын

Of course, you can do it at the air regulator as well but the point is to be able to apply a softer impact on the fly as needed.

@isaackvasager9957

2 жыл бұрын

Yup.

Great video proving that the money is the biggest difference.... I love my chief! Have you tested the Baxter air file from HFT?

Awesome, I just bought a chief today thank you very much ❤️

11:54: “Subscribe to come along for the journey, that is if we haven’t been thrown into a van with a bag over our heads for even publishing this information…and check out our Amazon and T-Store links so that we can afford bail.” TTC: Come for the tool tests; stay for the subtly subversive sense of humor.

How well does the HF stack up against Big Nasty?

@upnorth5465

2 жыл бұрын

"Big nasty" is a all or nothing style air hammer. No trigger control what so ever on that dude. I rarely have to use mine as my Matco takes care of most jobs here in rusty Minnesota.

I don't know why I clicked, this couldn't be further from my interests but I'm glad somebody is being the watchdogs for these things.

Good info. I need a new air hammer. I've been using an old IR one. It was used when I got it well over 20 years ago. Still works like a champ but shes getting tired. Co worker has a Chief I'll have to check his out.

I can't wait to see the Snap-on and matco going head to head

@upnorth5465

2 жыл бұрын

I love my Matco MT2916. Best one I've owned to date. Awesome trigger control and hits hard!

I’m gonna show this video to my Mac tools truck guy 🤣

People are so convinced that expensive = better that there will always be suckers for this kind of "badge engineering."

I can’t wait to see how the snap on does!

It should be no surprise at this point that tool trucks rebrand mass produced tools. That said as they continue to have the same manufacturing as lower priced options they will continue to loose business. The aura of the tool truck being superior isn’t there anymore because they are in many cases selling the same stuff as places with lower priced options. Channels like this have proven this time and time again.

@TheGuruStud

8 ай бұрын

"but but muh customer service" You can buy every tool 3 times and come out ahead compared to name brand relabels 😂

@Hakuna_Frittata

7 ай бұрын

Way late on this, but it should be well understood at this point tool truck prices are a convenience charge.

A comedy channel, that does real deal tool reviews. I likey. Plus the witness protection comment seems eerily necessary........ Also, a big hammer with no finesse might sound cool, sometimes, amazing control, is better than absolute size.

@ralphshoop8822

2 жыл бұрын

Something something something, a quote from your wife.

@jamesgeorge4874

2 жыл бұрын

@@ralphshoop8822 something something a quote from an incel neckbeard.

Many years ago I wanted to get a fancy and expensive Skill worm drive. When it wasn't available the Sears manager showed me the Craftsman's saw was actually the same tool, simply branded differently. Replacement internal parts were the same, and could be ordered as such. Yowza!

I knew a man that worked for a large tool manufacturer. A popular one. He told me that the only difference between the top dollar tools and the lower cost tool is the finish.

I swear my old short barrel snapon was stronger than my new IR long barrel.

Looks like a lot of overhead costs for that tool truck ripoff. Brand name must be raking in piles of cash off that nonsense.

Couple things to note, although designs are similar component quality can vary… longevity between the two tools could be much different. Second, patents on design can run their course. After that… it’s free game. That may not mean they’re not made in the same factory. Not saying they aren’t.

I remember years ago a discussion (never proven that I am aware of) about two different, but very similar binoculars. At the time, the story was that where they were made had two different addresses. But those addresses were just different sides of the same large building in Asia somewhere... Might have been an urban legend, but it also might have just be smart marketing. ;-)

I love the donut media "give it the beans" reference 😂😂

@lonely.toaster

2 жыл бұрын

And the Doug demuro 😂

2 bad HF didn't copy the SO one. That one does make a difference when it counts and I sure ain't no SO fan due to their insane markups.

@MindBlowerWTF

2 жыл бұрын

maybe snap on can afford to control their chinese suppliers more?

@robertrada4783

2 жыл бұрын

@@MindBlowerWTF They own the Sioux Tools plant in North Carolina that makes it. There’s a reason that the HF product uses the “Chief” brand.

Had the Mac since it came out, love it!

good investigative work!

TTC No one does it better

Show me the beans!

@3vil3lvis

2 жыл бұрын

and Crank up the PSI Pixies!

Thanks for this video. I really need an air hammer/chisel to get a stuck wheel bearing hub off my truck, Ive watched the entire series and I think I settled on the Chief. It wont be a tool I use all the time so the trigger control isnt 100% needed for my use case. Subscribed.

Subbed and got my bro to sub too. You are now on the list with aVe, project farm, and others. You guys are all fantastic, and I love the Doug deMuro ref 😂

HF has been on the rise over the last 5 years. I have one major complaint, bait and switch. You’ll see stellar reviews and months later the product changes for the worse keeping the same name, sku and price.

Most of these high-dollar brands are pretty shit at this point. The only decent things they make is hand tools.

@snap-off5383

2 жыл бұрын

. . . which the Taiwanese have mastered as well and sell for a hell of a lot less.

Matco, Cornwell and Snap-on tire inflators are made by Astro Pneumatics. The only difference is label and plastic color. The three branded inflators are $129-$199 each. A no label Astro inflator is $29 on Ali-Express, $15ea if you by five. Aside from the actual hand tools, any power tool the big three tool makers make is made by other brands.

Eagerly awaiting that snapon airhammer test before I buy my new air hammer. Hurry up! Haha

I have that same mac air hammer. Love it. Plenty of power and easy control. I get the off brand is a better deal, but, the tool truck finances stuff. That makes it an easier purchase. 15 or 20 a week over time is especially easier on some guys than dropping 150 all at once. For example, the 20 year old that has been busting tires for a couple years and now they move up to brakes, alignment, whatever at a chain tire shop. He isn't making enough money to go out and drop a bunch of cash all at once for all the stuff he needs. And yes, the mac with the same hammer attachment works great for knocking rotors off that are rusted onto the hub. He moves up to brake jobs, he needs a socket set, brake spring pliers, caliper tool set, breaker bar, maybe a stubby impact, swivel impact sockets, and so on. Financing that stuff is alot easier on the up and coming kinda guy.

It reminds me of a nice low profile floor jack that was available years ago at Costco for a little over $100. The exact identical model we had rolling on our shop floor, only rebranded as Matco was about $375 iirc.

I personally tested the HF Chief long barrel air hammer and SnapOn long barrel air hammer. Both were used to drive out inner and outer wheel bearing races on 40’ city transit bus…one per side and honestly the HF air hammer blasted the races out with alot let effort. Let it be noted though that the trigger control on the SnapOn was alot better than the HF but not enough to justify the price and especially in the Heavy Diesel Maintenance industry…BUT time will tell about durability.

I feel the snap on ph3050 is gonna have best trigger.... I absolutely love mine!!!!! And it definitely gives beans!!!!