Not an often visited category, but hardware store air hammers next? It's worth keeping in mind that the creator of this channel is working in product development for Astro tools, and while the tools tend to make what they make when hooked up to dyno's here it's always a good idea to consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!

@nickwhite6717

8 ай бұрын

We are ALL ready for some more DP action

@TorqueTestChannel

8 ай бұрын

@@nickwhite6717 DP just needs to bring out a long one!

@nickwhite6717

8 ай бұрын

​@@TorqueTestChannel I might have to go and do some research on that one

@TorqueTestChannel

8 ай бұрын

Someone check on this man, it's been too long@@nickwhite6717

@sthawk01

8 ай бұрын

Hardware store air hammers would be interesting to see. I appreciate the honesty about your involvement with Astro tools. You are one of the best tool channels on YT, keep up the good work!

This kind of content is way better than consumer reports.

@kevinjogoo8730

8 ай бұрын

To be fair content like this is the consumer reports of the 21st century

@CamiloSantana

8 ай бұрын

from video description: "As always, the creator of this channel is working for Astro in product development who make the 401K featured in this very video! Always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!"

@adaptedbythedans

8 ай бұрын

@@CamiloSantana no, this channel is the only truth.

@semmble2k7

4 ай бұрын

​@adaptedbythedans those are literally TTCs words 😉 however you are correct and the numbers do speak for themselves

Sweet shout out to South Main auto, guy does some pretty ridiculously in depth diagnostic on weird issues. Seems like a genuinely nice dude, really like his channel.

@darth342

7 ай бұрын

I came here to see if he had a channel

@ronnytotten9292

3 ай бұрын

Best tech channel on KZread by far. One of the few that are actually doing it. Basically closest to the real thing but he's really good

I'm a huge fan of the minimum power end, so I really appreciate y'all testing that. Hammering out axles and ball joints is important. But sometimes you need to do surgery with a chisel bit. That variable trigger is a must when you need to twist a rusted fuel pump lock ring, or loosen a rounded out Subaru CVT fill plug.

Must say, tools wearing in, is something that's so cool to hear of these days. When was the last thing you owned that wore in instead of only out.

I bought a IR years ago and have worn out my share of chisels with it. It cannot compete in this arena but it has served me well over the years. Having said that, a Snap On has had to come to my rescue a couple times.

I used the Chief long barrel air hammer this weekend on a Subaru rear wheel bearing and it knocked it out in 10 minutes. Rust belt area. Other side the owner beat on it for 5 hours and ended up taking knuckle off and using a press. I installed a larger air fitting along with female connection on compressor hose. I used a V shaped chisel and rotated the bearing which got it started moving. Chief for the win

I am curious to know how does AirCat get such fine trigger control? Can you guys do a tear down and analysis of the parts in a future video? Lets go full nerd on this and get techy. BTW, I bought the IR119MaxK and the Astro 498k, after your previous tests. Love the channel!

@snoopdogie187

8 ай бұрын

I have the 119MaxK and its been great. I might get the 498k in the future, but I'm on a smaller compressor and I'm worried I wouldn't get much benefit from it for now.

@AgentWest

7 ай бұрын

While I do not know about Aircat specifically, i can say that these kind of tools do not use a "typical" shuttle valve like you'd see in a solenoid. Instead, they use a tilting valve: a nail-shaped piece sits in the air passage to block it; trigger pushes on the 'shank' of this 'nail' and tilts it, causing the 'head' to come off of the hole to allow air to pass. My guess is that it all depends on the shape of this 'nail', its seat, and how long it is (for leverage).

Not only do I really enjoy the information (because its more trustable) but also your delivery.

AP puts out some great stuff at pretty amazing prices. I own more than a few items from them and never have buyer's remorse. And... awesome pick putting Eric-O on... he's a champ and it always makes me smile when he talks about using "big nasty". Great video as always. Thanks!!

I’ve always used an SDS hammer drill for my hammer. I pressed a piece of aluminum round stock onto the SDS shank and it works wonders.

I purchased a chief the day after you tested it and have loved it Working on heavy equipment it’s been amazing for driving out rusty pins

I still love my Matco. It hits like a freight train. I work on heavy equipment, so I haven't been too worried about using it at "idle" speed. If I ever need to, that's what air line regulators are for.

@Angelo-fo8de

8 ай бұрын

Matco 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 who makes it ? Not Matco !

@dustingibson2407

8 ай бұрын

@@Angelo-fo8de still hits harder than anything else.

I’ve got the SnapOn and love it. Bought it used for $200. Hits hard and has the best trigger control I’ve ever used. Looks like that Astro is pretty close, so it would be worth checking out if I wanted to replace it. The Aircat looked good and would probably work, but it loses too much power when you hold it the “proper” way. Not an every day issue, but there’s been times I need all the power I can get.

This is an awesome playlist! I don't even have an air hammer (although I'm interested).....but use an SDS MAX Hercules to set a lot of iron pins (surveying). Especially in solid rock, drilling makes all the difference. Thanks for this content!

I bought my Vaper Air Hammer at Auto Zone for ~$25 a year ago and it came with 4 attachments. I love it.

I really think the power range score would be better expressed as a ratio rather than a straight subtraction Subtraction means that there are basically no points awarded for doubling your range at the low end. A tool with a 500-4000lb range scores almost exactly the same as one with a 125-4000 range, even though the former's minimum force is 400% worse. And a comparably small improvement in max power of 500lb (12.5% increase in power vs 400% increase in dynamic range) would actually yield more points in the current version of this field. If you want to be really nerdy about it then a log of the ratio would be best, but a straight ratio is still a big improvement in reflecting the control and range you get from a tool

I just purchased the snap on in Kawasaki green yesterday. I like it.

I would love to see you guys start testing wood working power tools like routers especially both plunge style, fixed base styles for tables and compact palm routers. Corded and cordless!

As an aircat dealer the only problem I have with them is service. Takes months to get anything back and they only fix the bare minimum. Plus they have outside shops do all their repairs. It’s so bad I quit stocking their tools and just order them if someone wants one.

I have the Astro 401 for a few months now. ITS A BEAST.

Anytime ya get to see Eric O, you know it's going to be good

@daedalus_20v

8 ай бұрын

Chevy thunder!

@davebigdog

8 ай бұрын

@@daedalus_20v 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I like the my snap on not just for the power but for the trigger control since I work around a lot of rusty pipe that I have to chip slag off from haul trucks that run in steel mills .

I'd like to see the HF Chief medium barrel tested

Be interesting to replace the slug in the Astro with a tungsten slug to see how it would do. And for fun, maybe an aluminum slug, just to show how much the slug weight influences how hard it hits.

@volvo09

8 ай бұрын

An aluminum slug would probably crush and get stuck.

@sage5296

8 ай бұрын

@@volvo09 maybe a hollow slug or aluminum core with steel or other metal on the outside?

@kylelaw7210

8 ай бұрын

Titanium would probably be better than aluminum if you wanted to test a light weight slug.

@JCWren

8 ай бұрын

Aluminum, titanium, vibranium, unobtainium, whatever. The real point was a lightweight slug.

Yes, the .401 Thor finally reviewed! I was waiting on buying my next air hammer until this one gets reviewed

Awesome vid as always, thanks! Sidenote....are you planning on a test of the battery powered blowers? The Dewalt 60V circular saw combo price is intriguing, which makes me ponder the 60V handled blower over the 20V. Mainly for small cleanups but runtime is a factor...wonder how the 60V stacks up to the 20V tool and maybe just get the 60V saw combo and the 20V blower using that same 60V pack for runtime...not sure as I already have a good supply of 20V tools/batts.

I've been waiting for this episode ever since I saw the 401 Thor on the market

I know its a little out there, but i would LOVE to see a comparison of cordless rotary tools, specifically milwaukee's new 2525-20 brushless vs their old 2460-20 brushed as well as dremels offering 8220. Obviously they're no foredom, but Id really enjoy seeing the different offerings compared.

I picked up the newest Mac air hammer from my local dealer for $299 and got a free Mac compression gauge set with it. It was a deal in a flyer from I think July 2023. It was backordered until October!

Super Impressive on the new Astro, but I'd be tempted to pony up for the Aircat just to get that trigger. The problem with the Aircat is that I'm not sure my compressor can supply the 11.7 amp current draw the Amazon listing indicates it needs. Drat.

@RoastedHVAC

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@arcademania7544

8 ай бұрын

You mean 11.7 CFM? 😉

Would love to see what electric tool makers could do with an autohammer, theres that one skil tool out there but a bigger name attached to one might be able to show it off better

I have the Snap On and love the trigger. I have a medium chief and it is a good hammer, just no control on the trigger. I love seeing the control on both the new hammers tested. Have you ever tested the low tigger with max air pressure? My shop has 120 all the time and no 90.

Still would like to see the taylor pneumatic .498 7x with the 5.75" stroke does as opposed to big nasty and the other big ones

subtle red white and blue graph color scheme, hell yeah brother

sold. the astro is on the 'to get' list (unless something manages to beat the price/perf ratio before then).

You should dino gas powered post pounders for fence driven posts. They work with a pneumatic piston. Rhino, Redi Driver, Titan, US Hammer (spring powered not pneumatic but new to the scene).

So glad to see the Aircat tested! I bought one about 8 months ago and i love it.

Hi, first of all i love the precision that you do your videos, and second, i got my hands on sykes-pickavant vibro hammer, is massive, they have it also under MÜLLER-WERKZEUG VIBRO IMPACT SYSTEM AIR HAMMER KIT - 290 206, i am so curious to see where it stands on your graphic list, once again i love your content!

The firearm reference was awesome!!!

It’s a good thing to remember that all of these companies are in business to make money. Snapon particularly because they have truck salesman. I can’t be sure about now but in years past they also had industrial sales people. The difference between the two was of course the truck versus a salesman with the catalog. if you were an industrial salesman you offered a 25% discount. If you were a truck salesman your profit was 40% the last time that I checked and that was quite a while ago. You have to remember that snap on is in the banking business, they charge interest for the money that you borrow to pay the truck salesman and that’s what it is a financial agreement. It’s nearly impossible to get through peoples head that’s something for example it cost $500 and you can buy another tool that is comparable to that for $150, but you have to lay out the 150 bucks all at one time versus the $500 over a period of time. There’s lots of ways of overcoming that but if you want a prestige look then that’s what you buy. It’s your money you spend it the way you want.

Awesome demo

I love that the reference to 700 nitro is pretty much a direct shout out to Kentucky Ballistics

Update: I bought that Aircat. The trigger is, in fact, exceptional. This is like getting the best of a big hammer and a rivet gun in one tool. It won't replace your small 2x riveter on your Vans build, but I can see how this thing would absolutely work as a rivet gun in thicker materials with larger rivets.

Cp 714 zip gun. Not the heavy hitter but the trigger is the best out there. Used to drive rivets on body work everywhere

Wow I don't have a big need for a heavy hitter very often but that 1 or 2 times a year when I do it would be great to have. I kept saying I would get the harbor freight chief when it was on a really good sale. Well I never picked one up. Now I might just pick one up. I usually buy once cry once but on a tool that I use 1 or 2 times a year I think one of the less expensive ones will be finding its way into the shop.

Hey there I enjoy your channel Have thought about testing Butterfly air impact wrench Like the Ingersall Rand 2168 vs Astro #136E? Thanks

I have Astro hammers the new one 401k and CP 714 for light duty and really like them both the Astro 498K comes out for serious work

@purplegreendave

8 ай бұрын

Did the 401k come with any bits? A lot (but not all) of the promo images show it with that hammer bit

@jimhaines8370

8 ай бұрын

@@purplegreendave when I bought mine just the hammer and a quick change chuck but I already have many many bits so not a problem for me plus 401 shank bits are very inexpensive

Geat video as always! Just wanted to know if you guys ever planed on testing the Mueller Kueps HD Vibro air hammer, aka "BIG CHOOCH"? Would love to see what kind of score that monster would get.

Do more Chicago pneumatic stuff plz!

My snap on 3050 has been going strong for 3 years now, it hits harder than any other that we have at my shop. Plus if it ever fails i can warranty it same week

I have a long barrel Napa air hammer. Its been the same design for at least 20 years for currently $130 and i would swear it'd keep up with all the big names.

@_AndromedaGalaxy_

8 ай бұрын

pretty sure youll never see it tested here if he already has his own unproven opinion on it.

@djsi38t

8 ай бұрын

Thing is it is a rebranded air hammer that is probably the same as one already tested.You just need to find the manufacturer..

@redmesa2975

8 ай бұрын

If I remember correctly, Florida Pneumatic made Napa air tools

I know this isn't easiest to test on a Dyno, but since I am in the market for a new hammer drill (SDS+) I thought I would mention it. They all claim various levels of kinetic energy and I don't really know what to trust in their concrete drilling capacity.

I’d love to see how the CP7165/60 from Chicago Pneumatic goes on the dyno. Most of my air tools are from CP and would love to keep the CP family going true.

Could you test the battery adapters on the Makita 36v microwave and determine the difference in how many meals you can microwave?

In Australia that Aircat retails for $679 AUD (about 443 USD).

Nice testing. Its nice to see the Snap On wasnt embarrassed too badly considering I have their big boy air hammer lmaoo but it is really strong, so i dont have much regret.....besides the price 😅😭

My air tools are about do for upgrading, looking like Thor is gonna be doing it. One thing i find odd is my IR long barrel has a super smooth and easily variable trigger, i wonder if its just well wore in

I was wondering if the Ingersoll Rand 123MAXK Short Barrel Air Hammer would be any different from the Ingersoll Rand 119MAX Long-Barrel Air Hammer, how are the triggers as well? i prefer valve type of triggers, very controllable

That air cat looks great, that trigger has my attention.

Ultimate air hammer is a demolition air hammer chisel from ingersol rand. Its about 4500 from online vendors. Its the only thing i have found that will give the business yo rusty crusty damaged king pins on Kenworth semi trucks and dump trucks.

I was just thinking the other day it might be cool if you could test some sds tools using this same rig. It could be really nice to know how effectively they can be used for demoing or chiseling projects. If they are effective enough there might even be some automotive applications for those of us without a large enough compressor to run quality pneumatic tools.

@evannewman3997

7 ай бұрын

Actually, they have done that. Then again, it was one video with only 3 models tested, so I totally agree that more comparisons would be great.

Trying to separate a 06 toureg driveline from the back axle. Would the Thor do it? Currently have a carlyle air impact doesn't seem to do much?

aircat seems like it would make a hell of a good aircraft rivet gun. tee tiny little aluminum rivets dont really need all the beans but often you wanna just barely tap it

Hey, love your channel. I was thinking if By any chance is there a cordless option?

@DownloaderVideo

3 ай бұрын

I wish, heard Milwaukee has a patent for one but only God knows when it will be out….unless we get lucky and receive some inside intel.

My cp 7x 20yrs still hits hard

Wouldn't dropping line pressure be the same as throttling the trigger. Both would supply less air to the same volume air chamber probably bringing very similar results. Maybe running a regulator straight off the gun would give as much control as one could really need.

I will be looking at the aircat

Have you tested any of the carlyle brand air hammers?

Can you test out Cornwell, bluepoint and the new snap on “short” barrel air hammer?

You need to try and see if you can replace the steel piston inside with a heavier metal. If you cant change the bore or length wouldn't changing the weight result in higher force yet??

If one comes across your path, id be keen to see a comparo of a CP7165k and the cream of .401s. Based off of the numbers, it seems like it will party.

Are there cordless / battery tools that are similar and have you tested any?

Second only to project farm in delivery and info. Love it!

@djsi38t

8 ай бұрын

Nope...way better than Amazon Farm..

It would be interesting to insert a tungsten slug into one or various air hammer pistons to see if the extra weight makes much difference. I have no suitable material but perhaps a viewer does.

@cian.horgan

8 ай бұрын

That's a fun idea! I reckon it'd be disappointing though because the rest of the design is tuned around the existing weight and size, so the airflow would likely not be able to accelerate the tungsten anywhere near as fast. What could be cool is using a tungsten slug to make a much shorter piston with around the same weight as the original. That makes it much more likely that the air can accelerate it, and you effectively get a much longer stroke for free

@Mittencarpentry

8 ай бұрын

Thought about the same thing. Then drill the air passages out larger and let it eat!

Another way I could see air hammer OEs making more power is a more dense piston, however I doubt anyone would be willing to pay what would be required for an air hammer with, for example, a tungsten hammer

You guys should test the Mueller Kueps HD vibro air hammer

just curious are you using air tool oil and does it make a difference?

Can you guys run some tests of cordless SDS+ drills next? I am actually considering one for automotive work as hopefully a decent air hammer replacement, not wanting a compressor.

@TorqueTestChannel

8 ай бұрын

We have!

You mention the air cat having a funky air pressure regulator. The snapon has the same one and I say that because a lot of people I’ve personally came across doesn’t know it’s there 😂

@TorqueTestChannel

8 ай бұрын

I think we point that out as well, but i'll be honest we didn't even notice it while it was here.

Any idea why the Astro isn’t available?

Pure numbers don’t tell the whole story. Trust and reliability in a brand is important. Where they are made matters also. Who cares if a tool hits harder but dies prematurely or when you need it , pay the price and buy the best tools , from American companies

@-tr0n

8 ай бұрын

Not for 3 days wages, thanks.

yo lad can you do a 123maxk, you got the 135 and 119 but no 123maxk. I know it's old but I have one and it has a decent amount of power for a short barrel. i personally like the compactness of it, trigger is alright but doesn't compare to strap on. However as a hd on road tech it definitely comes in clutch when working in tight spaces.

Can you test some more SDS's? I am trying to decide if I want to spend the money on a compact-ish DeWalt SDS+ for "air hammer duties" or if I should wait and see if anyone actually fills this market space at some point.

Do more air hammer tests please.

this is the one tool I badly wish industry would invest in making electric

@BimmerMatt

8 ай бұрын

Milwaukee Tool has a patent for one, only a matter of time

@michaelbamber4887

8 ай бұрын

They do, sds. Just stop the rotation.

Air cat everything g is amazing for the price also Chicago pneumatic

Aircat trigger is the Makita trigger of air hammers.

The MATCO air hammer has exhaust ports just like the AirCat. Do you suspect shared designs?

@TorqueTestChannel

8 ай бұрын

Definitely not, most have exhaust ports like that. But many also have a way for you hand to hold without covering them

I really wish that someone would try and do a cordless hammer with the same shank as an air n close to comparable size with the exception of the battery on the bottom. SDS HAMMERS are usually to big, different shafts n difficult to maneuver while trying to work on a vehicle in a driveway. Years back when I had a LARGE DIY collection of automotive tools, the compressor I could afford couldn't really keep up with a heavy air hammer or die grinder. A nice consistent air system is expensive for most DIY guys especially if they rent the place they're doing side jobs at. I rent a small home and space is limited n tool storage even more so considering I need huge variety of tools for general construction, automotive and landscaping.

You guys need to test the new Snap-On air hammer.that came out a few weeks ago. 3500 hits per.minute vs the one you tested at 2500

Bro, the 7 nitro express and south main auto? dang hitting all the subs today

I recently bought the chief because I needed a much bigger hammer immediately, but if I had the time to wait I definitely would have gotten a BIG NASTY

Will y’all test Kobalt brand 1/2 air impacts? They have one rated for 400ft lbs for 50 bucks I have and they have one rated for 1000 ft lbs for 169

If you want trigger control, look into an aviation rivet gun 👍

@caddy-co

7 ай бұрын

Would love to see how an atlas copco would compare to these

Idea: lumen measurements for the various worklights that take both 18v and plug in.

Please test the IR 118Max. I have that & wonder if it's anywhere near as strong as the competition.

@DownloaderVideo

3 ай бұрын

He did, he tested the 119max. It is the same 118max after they corrected a gear issue on some of them. Same machine and capacity.

Trust me, I love my Snap On 3050 but damn it hurt to pay that price.

I need to know how the fortis hd big chooch really compares

Have you tried Sykes pickavant vibro hammer?