Dumb Medieval Weapons - What Should We FIGHT WITH for SCIENCE?
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Lucy gets a rock in a sock, while you get a club, but you’re buried to the waist. We will accept nothing less.
@johnladuke6475
Ай бұрын
It doesn't have to be Matt and Lucy but I do want to see experiments to show how that plays out. It's such a goofy duel; if that was the law I'd go around starting fights between couples just so I could watch the combat.
@user-ou4jk2di4q
Ай бұрын
I second that!
@codycarter7638
Ай бұрын
There’s a video out that does just this….the Thalhoffer longswords are freaking beautiful. Great footage of a mordhau striking a guy is a sallet …the “bonk” it made is strangely beautiful.
I'd love to see if those wacky "judicial duel" fighting shields with the spiked ends really worked.
@nickshomenta5373
Ай бұрын
I do own a set. They're fun but mine don't have spikes.
@adam-bf8li
Ай бұрын
@@nickshomenta5373 Ha~ha~, you prioritise safety~ Neener neener neeener. Just kidding.
@Kinetic.44
Ай бұрын
I bet they worked great
@chengkuoklee5734
Ай бұрын
I have a crazy idea, what if Dequitem fights with medieval accurate chair.
@jacklonghearse9821
Ай бұрын
Classic OG Hans Talhoffer duels
Not a Medieval weapon, but I would LOVE to see a Klingon Bat'leth sparring against a Medieval long sword.
@DwarfInBlues
Ай бұрын
Against a longsword? Don't see it doing much of anything. Maybe versus poleaxe.
@DavidCollinsRivera
Ай бұрын
Matt has looked at the Bat'leth before, and considered it to have some potential. That was an armchair assessment, though; I'd LOVE to see it put to the test in a HEMA context! This would include both obtaining a sparring version of the weapon, and putting in at least a moderate amount of practice with it before any actual sparring took place. Practice would include figuring out how to use it at all, considering there aren't -- and never were -- any actual masters of the thing, nor any old treatises from which one might learn. (But the same could be said for every other weird and wacky weapon, I guess.)
@ruebenblack3495
Ай бұрын
Check out Skallagrim, he's made several videos testing the batleth!
@Kanner111
Ай бұрын
In defense of the Bat'leth, it is the greatest weapon ever designed... for stage fighting. Two-handed, absolutely no range, concave ends for extra control of the opponent's blade, and designed from the ground up to be as non-hazardous as possible for enthusiastic actors to clinch against each other while snarling into each other's faces. A massive improvement over diabolical objects like swords, which if even slightly mishandled can poke someone's eye or break their finger. And despite all that, it actually still looks kinda badass!
@DwarfInBlues
Ай бұрын
@@Kanner111 "for enthusiastic actors to clinch against each other while snarling into each other's faces." Absolutely on point!
I want to see a Net. Like a fishing net. Some Roman gladiators used them and it actually seems like a net would be either very effective or completely rubbish.
@zerentheunskilled
Ай бұрын
In a one on one fight I imagine they could be quite useful. It'd be hard to defend very well if the net is getting caught on your weapon and armour. They wouldn't exactly be easy to remove either since they would have several weights tied to their edges which would help it wrap around their target even more.
@squarewheels2491
Ай бұрын
@@zerentheunskilled From the little I've used a small fishing one, it was really difficult to get a good spread except at a good distance. You also had to fold and hold it just right so you would only get one shot out of it in a fight. How likely would it catch someone and how much you can restrict an opponent are good questions. Is swinging the weights worth it or does that just remove your ability to throw it. It really just seems like a lot of fun to test out.
@ObsoleteVodkaYT
Ай бұрын
It would probably suck in a non-regulated fight. Gladiators were trained and equipped for what today we call a class-based system, complete with rock-paper-scissor mechanics so the fighters counter each other (remember, the goal was entertainment). For example, the guy with the net is called a Murmillo and he is countered by another type called a Scissor, who can cut at the Murmillo's net.
@johnladuke6475
Ай бұрын
In that aforementioned class-based system with a trained and specialized fighter, it would be a pretty useful weapon; particularly when combined with a trident. For any solo combat I'd expect it to be at least _somewhat_ effective, as we also see cloaks/capes employed as off-hand weapons in other contexts.
@zerentheunskilled
Ай бұрын
@@squarewheels2491 The weights, which wouldn't really be more than some small lead bits tied to the corners and edges of the net, would both make it easier to throw and would make it spread out more. You would throw it by holding it in the center and throwing it from the side which would impart a small spin, making the weights separate and spread the net mid air. In a non-sparring fight, you could even tie small hooks onto the net, making it even more likely to catch on your opponent. Even if you didn't throw it at them, you could swing it in a way that could wrap it around their weapon, head, or whatever else you hit with it, much in the same way a cape was used with rapiers.
Not a stupid weapon, but I'd like to see how a man catcher performs against an armed opponent. Speaking of weird weapons: spiked shields and other duelling weapons.
I've always been intrigued by the net/trident combo from Roman gladiatorial combat. Especially the net.
A lanthern shield ! It should be tried in the dark.
@nickshomenta5373
Ай бұрын
I did make one for SCA/hema experimenting
@RainMakeR_Workshop
Ай бұрын
Academy of Historical Fencing did a couple of vids on a lantern shield that they made.
- A giant smelly dead fish held by the tail. Smaller ones can be throwing weapons I think, might be worth testing those out too. - Your opponent's chopped off limb(s)
Ok, my proposals are: - Rock in a sock - Whip ( no idea how you are going to make a sparring-safe version of that but I believe in you) - Spade - Beidana (not weird, but can you pass the opportunity?) - Longbow (we see bows used as improvised melee weapons in movies all the time, time to test them in practice) - Two-handed wooden spiked club ( I saw many examples in iconography, and would love to hear your thoughts about them after trying them out) - And finally an "Armoured fighting sword" for the lack of a better term. Matt will know exactly what it is.
@brianj.841
Ай бұрын
The Beidana looks like the inspiration for Saruman's Orc swords.
@j.f.fisher5318
Ай бұрын
For the longbow option, I suggest a longbow combined with a Gou-rang hook shield. :)
@toddellner5283
Ай бұрын
Spades are nasty weapons
@MonEyRuLess
Ай бұрын
The sparring-safe version of a whip, is a whip.
@siamsasean
Ай бұрын
The thing to remember about spades is that they are a gardening tool that, like axes, are supposed to be kept sharp. First thing I do with a new shovel is grind an edge onto it. Makes a hella difference.
I’ve heard of an entirely impractical and silly weapon called a “spadroon,” maybe take a swing at that
@Leftyotism
Ай бұрын
WHOAOW! You take that back Sir!
Odd but historical weapons I'd like to see experimented with: -hooked/spiked judicial dueling shields (a.k.a medieval german ba'tleths) -actual scythes (not war scythes) - does somthing like Paulus Hector Mair's set of techniques emerge from first principles? -kusarigama (both variants of chain connection point, if possible) -indian gauntlet-swords (how do you actually fence without wrist movement?). With and without an appropriate shield, if possible. Unusual improvised (but possibly effective) weapons that might be fun to play with: -one of those large, strong metal-reinforced wooden garden brooms - the sort with a broad hardwood head with stiff bristles. -a frying pan, with or without a pot-lid buckler in the off-hand Deliberately absurd options: - a double-ended pollaxe (ie. with a second full-size pollaxe head instead of a butt-spike) - rapier and dagger, but the dagger should have a corkscrew-like helical blade for better trapping of the opponent's sword, Aaand: - a pair of those giant center-gripped mezzaluna-like cresent-bladed thingies used in various fantasy computer games (my bete noir in terms of badly designed fantasy weapons).
@johnladuke6475
Ай бұрын
Y'know, a double-ended pollaxe doesn't actually sound so crazy... as knightly weapons, it actually seems odd that nobody would have given it a try.
@charlieashwood
Ай бұрын
I love pretty much all your ideas. As someone who only mows with a scythe and owns multiple I can tell you right now that an actual mowing scythe would just break or bend on contact with another weapon or armor. The blades are intentionally made with extremely soft steel so they can be peened (cold forged) on the spot.
@penttikoivuniemi2146
Ай бұрын
@@johnladuke6475 I'd say it's because the butt-end with a spike or a knob for hitting the other person is more advantageous in most situations than another axe-head that can easily get tangled with the enemy's weapon.
@AndrewGill-nj9nu
Ай бұрын
@@charlieashwood Thanks for your insight; I've not handled a real scythe. It certainly explains why many of Paulus Hector Mair's techniques seem to rely on using the wooden haft to parry or displace with (the blade is at an awkward angle for parrying in any case)
@charlieashwood
Ай бұрын
@@AndrewGill-nj9nu Yea that does make sense. Possibly even more so because the snath (wooden part of the scythe) often has a handle at the end that essentially makes it a wooden hook. It would certainly be awkward to use and the blade nearly useless against an armored opponent but I guess against an unarmed opponent a wooden stick with a hook on one end and a backward facing soft metal blade on the other isn't the worst thing to have lol.
Instead of novel weapons in boring sparring duel, I'd like to see more standard weapon performance outside of duels - like to take objectives and such. Fighting in formation, on horseback, coming up/pushing off a ladder, fighting in confined staircases/doorways/crowded battlements/ships, etc. I feel like we've barely scratched the surface of practical medieval fighting science due to the tendency to 'sportify' it
@chengkuoklee5734
Ай бұрын
I agree but you will need more men to run the tests. For example how a simple ditch or elevated position affect how weapons operated. My guts tell me war flail excel with elevated position like fort wagon, providing extra options in fighting attackers.
@culture-nature-mobility7867
Ай бұрын
YES!!!
Not really ridiculous but I would love to see an experiment with the Jagerstock (double pointed spear) against multiple swordsmen based on Pascha’s treatise. I think I mentioned this to Todd a little while back. I am curious how this might compare to say a greatsword.
@jwnomad
Ай бұрын
It would be more jabby and less windmilly
Double Shields. Perhaps one lighter/smaller with a bladed edge and the other primarily for defense like a Murmillo but with a spiked upper crest for a shoulder-powered stab. Or whatever
There's a TON of weapons that aren't necessarily dumb, but are unique, fun, and/or underrepresented. (also some not exactly medieval) -Nunchuks -Three-section staff -Khopesh -Headhunting axe -Ikakalaka sword, or other swords with chopping points instead of thrusting ones -Tridents/Military forks -Gladiator Scissores -Urumi -swordstaves/warscythes/similar cutty sword poles -Gardening scythes -Dacian falx/kora blade, one and two handed -One-handed, and especially two-handed flails -Sarissas/long pikes -Emeici -Kusarigama -Godenak -Goedendag -Halberds with concave axes, or concave axes in general -War picks, just a weaponized pickaxe -Spiked pavises, or spiked shields in general Others mentioned them, but I also wanna see them big dueling shields, armored fighting swords, lantern shields Also, hurbats, but that doesn't quite fit for what you wanted.
I don't know how to make this a safe weapon for sparring, but a three section staff would be super fun to see.
@j.f.fisher5318
Ай бұрын
PVC pipe with padding at the tips of each section would be a fair compromise.
@zerentheunskilled
Ай бұрын
@@j.f.fisher5318 Pipe insulation makes for good padding over 1/2" PVC and is still small enough you can get a hand around it. That's what I'd use if I was trying to make a weapon like that for sparring.
@RJGrady
Ай бұрын
@@zerentheunskilled I've seen that done. The group I was in banned flail type weapons with excessive length because of this weapon. It was surprisingly fast. And ouch.
I would love to see how big, flat pole weapons could be used. You know, oars and shovels. And how practical is the rhetiarius net actually? Oh, and what about a lasso?
I don't know if it meets the assignment but I want to see a Goedendag in action.
@j.f.fisher5318
Ай бұрын
I thought of that too. Might be hard to make something safe to spar with but it would be cool to see.
@johnladuke6475
Ай бұрын
You could replicate the shape and the spike could be made blunt/flexible, but anything that simulates the mass would be inherently unsafe. Even with those limits I like the idea, and if we can just get rid of these pesky human rights I'd love to see some gladiators test out the real deal.
-obscenely large sword -tools turned weapons such as sickles or pitchforks -fabric such as a towel, bedsheets, rope ect
@chengkuoklee5734
Ай бұрын
I give you a better one- chair
@juggernautz181
Ай бұрын
@@chengkuoklee5734 ah the fiore specialty
An in depth test of any and all weird shields and bucklers. In particular those that have offensive bits added.
@IlIlllIIIllIIlIIlII
Ай бұрын
the flail is supposed to be super effective against shields. Does that mean the double ended flail is super effective against dual-wielded shields?
@kellypowell6317
Ай бұрын
No doubt...buckler with dirk in the same hand and some smashy club in the other.
Well, the double-ended flail was called dire flail in D&D 3rd edition. Other similiar weapons were the double-bladed sword, the orc double axe (double-bladed axe heads at each end), the gnome hooked hammer (a hammer at one end and a pick at the other end), the dwarven Urgosh (a battle axe with a spear at the other end). The German RPG Das Schwarze Auge has double and triple headed flails, which should both work. But they also mention a flail with seven heads, called Donnerschlag, which is described as uncontrolable. And then there is the Korspieß, a halberd with nine blades. Another eapon from this world is the Zweililien, some kind of quarterstaff with blade similiar to the one of glaives at both ends. If you look for weird weapons, look into some fantasy roleplaying games. Often they have weapons which are really weird.
Grappling armed foes with spikey armour. Elbows, knees and head as spikey weapons. I imagine it going up against a more lightly armoured swordsman in a gladiatorial syle matched mismatch!
All of the "erroneous" weapons from Fiore. The double-hilted sword thing comes to mind. Also maybe trying his (not actually poison-loaded) special polaxe / warhammer that is poison bearing.
The weirdest weapon that could possibly be feasible is probably the Eiserne Drossel (See Tira from Soul Calibur) it's essentially a bladed hullahoop. No historical basis to my knowledge, but it reminds me of the Shaolin Bench, where bulky awkward weapons can perform remarkable counter attacks.
@user-ou4jk2di4q
Ай бұрын
That's just an oversized chakram/wind and fire wheel. Also somewhat plausible if it could be carried on the shoulder.
Kind of wondering how well an handgonne would handle as a melee weapon. Once fired its essentially a polearm with an iron mace head. There are even some with a rather nasty looking hook that you're supposed to use to hook on a wall or shield while firing.
@DwarfInBlues
Ай бұрын
You don't want them to see the full use range of handgonne in practice? LOL
So considering the best weapon ever made is the stick I would like to see someone spar what is the total opposite of a stick a rope. I guess it is not that whacky but I have no idea how one would spar with it
@VikingTeddy
Ай бұрын
Basic whipping/lashing I guess. Maybe tie a knot at the end(s). Or use it as a grappling aid as a lasso. There's lasso performers who can do impressive tricks, so maybe not that crazy of an idea.j
@greyvr4336
Ай бұрын
Tie a weight at one end and swing it. Chain and Sickle from Japan, there's also a version of it with a frisbee at one end and a rope, with a blade like a small onehanded brown bill at the other end. Search term kyoketsu-shoge. OR if you want to be pure rope, a bullwhip or a cat of nine tails. (Also, Rope > stick.)
@ex0ne
Ай бұрын
I thought the opposite of a stick would be a big rock? With the rope, I would probably hold one end of the rope in each hand to form a loop and try to catch and throw my opponent with it. Depends a bit on the length of the rope and its thickness (how long is a rope?)
• My #1 choice would be "mai sawks," a Thai weapon, similar to tonfa but are flatter and more shield-like. (Also spelled 'mae sowks' and other permutations of those 4 spellings.) • I wouldn't mind seeing HEMA practitioners sparring with other Asian weapons like sai, tonfa, butterfly swords, hook swords, haladie, madu, kukri, panabas, etc... • I know there are companies out there that make synthetic bat'leth, that also might be something to try. (I just want to note that I don't personally think these are dumb weapons... it's just that because they are foreign to HEMA it might not be obvious how to use them. Also, more discriminating people might dismiss them outright!)
@d-w-b-c
Ай бұрын
my socks
@Ithirahad
Ай бұрын
@@d-w-b-c filled with rocks
I think a glave with a "head" on each end would look cool and might be effective.
Nunchuks are good for their context, which is largely in an urban/semi-urban civilian context. They can be deployed quickly, have a greater reach than most weapons used in crime (knives, saps, etc), are fairly unrestricted by confined spaces, are effective grappling tools, etc. They make for a great response to someone pulling a knife on you in a back alley due to both outreaching them and fheir their inertia giving them a lot of stopping power, making pretty effective at knocking a hand or weapon offline or disarming them.
That ‘Pizza Axe’ looks both functional and hilarious!
@JustClaude13
Ай бұрын
I don't eat pizza at home because I don't have an axe to cut it with. Now hope may be at hand!
I would really want to see something like that historical lantern shield with the extra blades tested.
- Talhoffer duelling shields and scythes - bearing swords - Indian Pata (and other Indian swords with somewhat restrictive hilts like Khanda or Firangi) - Chinese hook swords (and other uncommon Chinese weapons) - Nunchucks, Dual-bladed swords, Bat'leth
@RJGrady
Ай бұрын
The pata was designed to defeat scale and segmented armors.
Swordchucks. Like nunchucks but with swords.
@nevisysbryd7450
Ай бұрын
Swordchucks, yo.
The rock-in-an-apron from Talhoffer's treatise on "marriage counseling".
Ah, the dire flail.
@EriktheRed2023
Ай бұрын
D&D, as much as I love that game, has been responsible for a lot of weird misconceptions of history. 😄
@greyvr4336
Ай бұрын
@@EriktheRed2023 Like "platemail."
@danielcox7629
Ай бұрын
I would like to see a wooden maul vs various targets.
Swordstaff (like the double lightsaber but just ordinary swords). Show up in fantasy all the time and I'd like to see if they actually provide any real advantages
a knifebrella. No explanation. No instructions.
"Weirdest weapons" George Silver's LONG staff. Or Ghiza's Wheel from Elden Ring.
Hello. A few proposals of wacky weapons: - The double ended flail you presented would be interesting. Shad had a go with a similar one (using water bottles instead of steel bits). - The sword+flail weapon. Skallagrim had a go with it, it looks very wacky. - Sword and axe combo weapon. It is a sword, with an axe head near the hilt, mounted on the sword. With some mechanical release system, the axe head slides along the sword towards the tip. I saw a youtube video with such a weapon, and I have a lot of doubts regarding its usability.
Suggestion is Mancatchers! The pole with a ring of inward spikes. Also I second the guy that said dueling shields that would be cool. And. Lastly, I would like to see someone fight with a Taiha. The Polynesian axe/paddle/spear thing.
A video lasting 2 minutes, 46 seconds from Matt?
- Double-ended, double-bitted axe. - Sliding blade sword (from Ninja Assassin...blade can change ends).
I have several suggestions, some of which may prove impractical due to safety concerns/ incubation time: Nine section whip, meteor hammer, claw hammer, belt, patu, taiaha, oar, coffee mug, sword and cape, spiked targe, patta or scissor, trident, half a brick in a sock, tonfa and riot shield, sodegarami, car aerial, a high heeled shoe held in the hand, chair, bullwhip, 4WD, and, finally, tuberculosis.
I'd like to see the man vs woman duel where the guy has to stand in a hole.
I often wondered how well you could use an italian style billhook head without a shaft on it, essentially using it as a funky machete of sorts.
A sword with axe blades for a crossguard could be interesting
The lantern shield of Archduke Ernest of Austria. The one with a gauntlet and sword built in.
@greyvr4336
Ай бұрын
Chinese wolf brush. It's a cut down tree used as a vertical net to jam up a swordsman while another spears him with a regular spear. Lang xian. Seems like there's a number of designs for the things and some digging may be required.
@ankokuraven
Ай бұрын
i want to second lantern shield
@MaxBrodsky.
Ай бұрын
@@ankokuraven There's already a video like that
@greyvr4336
Ай бұрын
@@MaxBrodsky. Can you give us a title/channel title/search term? I'd ask for a link but youtube requires channel owner to approve links.
I could see the double ended flail being used with one hand on the shaft and one hand at the end of the chain. This grip won't have the power of a two handed strike, but it could block by pulling the chain taut, and maybe grapple other weapons loosely through handwrapping the chain around them. The second flailing lump of metal won't hit its user when in this way too.
The double-bladed sword is pretty much mandatory.
@radivojevasiljevic3145
Ай бұрын
From Naboo with love, Darth Maul.
Ooo ooo! - Throwing knives attached to every part of the body: belt, bandolier, legs, arms, boots, back. - a Goedendag (club with spearpoint) - a Jugger Chain - a 320cm chain with a ball/weight/mace head at the end - armored boots & legs or blades at the end of legs/feet - a lacrosse stick & balls - a kid's slingshot - a flail with an elastic "chain" - a door, table, chair, stool, ladder or bucket - a hand cannon (replicated using some sort of nerf gun-type attatchment) - bolas - a spiked helmet - grenades/water baloons - a boulder - frisbees/chakram - a mancatcher And as a bonus, normal sparring while wearing those short metal stilts with springs in them.
The billhook-sword!
Here's the ones I'd like you to try: - Paired nunchaku. what better to fight spinny stuff than *more* spinny stuff? - Some form of double-bitted battleaxe, either a two-handed one or a one-handed one with a shield. - The Atlantean from the Schwarzenegger Conan movies (if it's possible to make an analog that's safe for sparring.) - I won't push this one, but if you could find some way to make a *bearing sword* that was safe to spar with, that'd be *a lot* of fun to watch for the sheer absurdity of it.
straight from gurps fantasy tech. The Arma 3 of pen and paper role playing games. Double-Ended Halberd ingame ibs 16 Double-Ended Horse-Cutter presume double ended nodachi ingame 12 Double-Ended Naginata or Glaive 8 Double-Ended Pollaxe 16 Double-Ended Slashing Spear 8 Double-Ended Dao 14 Double-Ended Falchion, Light 10 Double-Ended Falchion, Heavy 13 Double-Ended Sword, Long 10 Double-Ended Sword, Short 8 Double-Ended Axe, Heavy 12 Double-Ended Axe, Light 8 Double-Ended Mace 12 Double-Ended Maul 20 Double-Ended Sickle 6 Double-Ended Warhammer 10 Double-Ended Flail, Light 8 Double-Ended Flail, Heavy 12 all of these above have an effective reach of 2 yards in the game as i understand it. Gigantic Sword the only one a human could probably really use. 3 yard reach weight 16 IBS Absurd Rapier 3 yard long effective thrusting rapier sharp edge. weight 4.5 Really Absurd Rapier 4 yard effecitve thrusting range 6 ibs Insane Rapier 5 yard effective thrusting range 7.5 Gurps works on a 1 second per turn basis
Dual wielding shields. What can you actually do if that’s all you have?
@GothamClive
Ай бұрын
You don't have to dual-wield it. Look for the video titled "Tell me how the grass tastes little man"
Nunchaku is a great weapon, and it's very easy to carry around.
Paired (tiger) hook swords! I find them useful and versatile (for duels; certainly not on a battlefield as claimed sometimes :D), although I am very accepting of the linked-swinging techniques. I'd love if you gave them a try.
Gyrspike from 3rd ed. D&D, it was a longsword with a flail on the pommel
Why am I getting the feeling that a very, very long response video might go up in the coming days...
- Double-headed two-handed axe like you see in movies - Weird chain weapons like the meteor hammer and/or kusarigama. I never understood how those could be feasable to use in actual combat - A whip? - Wind-and-fire wheels
I would like to see an airsoft and rebated blade version of an Elgin pistol cutlass. Or one of the Sabres with a pin fire revolver in the guard.
- Pascha's Jägerstock (double ended spear) - Mair's Sickle - Mair's Scythe - Mendoza's Mangual
Musket & bayonet is awesome - what could be better? MUSKET & FLAIL! Attack a chain & ball to the end of your barrel, shoot and smack your enemies. How history missed such a potent weapon is beyond me. Another more practical experiment is dual wielding a table knife and fork - defending your home when invaded in the middle of dinner.
The two-bladed sword from D&D Not a staff with a short blade at each end, but a standard hilt with a full arming sword blade coming out of the top and bottom.
I would be curious to see a Bat’leth tried out, especially again a normal sword.
@ruebenblack3495
Ай бұрын
You might want to look up Skallagrim; he's made several videos on the topic and has tested it!
@GothamClive
Ай бұрын
@@ruebenblack3495 I think he used it too much like a sword. It should be mainly used like a shield. If you have a Bat'leth you should either run towards your enemy to close the distance and then use it to finish your opponent, if he has cut you while you approached you just tank it, or use it defensively to bind the enemy's weapon and then attack with the other side. A HEMA approach of "You touched me, so you get the point and we start again" isn't how it would be used. And it's an unfair test.
A farming hoe A shovel with long handel A hammer paired with a sickle
@DwarfInBlues
Ай бұрын
Hammer paired with a sickle is a devastating weapon for comrades.
@shinjiikari1021
Ай бұрын
@@DwarfInBlues pefect side arm for an tokarev or makarov after you already used their capacity and your ak, because its faster to switch to your back up
I'm curious how a spear with an inner shaft would work. Basically it works like a normal 7' spear but when thrust forward the inner shaft slides forward and it becomes a 12' spear. Then the user could pull it back in and it becomes a 7' spear again.
A tuning fork sword: A sword whose blade splits into two parallel blades with an open path in the middle.
How about a traditional fantasy "fist weapon", something like a katar with a buckler attached, in each hand!
I'd put forward the Lajatang. Bonus points for mentioning them used by Wang-Liang.
The greatest meme weapon of all, a pommel.
@radivojevasiljevic3145
Ай бұрын
A pommel without blade - very tight budget "sword".
A sharkpole. its a pole weapon with a shark strapped to the end.
@j.f.fisher5318
Ай бұрын
Lololol 😂
@kamilszadkowski8864
Ай бұрын
Believe it or not but Cossacks used polearms that had cow skulls strapped to the end. So a sharkpole doesn't seem that crazy...
@terrenusvitae
Ай бұрын
@@kamilszadkowski8864 Then I shall endeavour to be even more ridiculous next time. I don't want to be outdone by Cossacks.
@johnnyplayer2075
Ай бұрын
The shark pole should be a combined melee weapon and also have the ability to shoot the shark on your opponent. A shark artillery would also be great! 🦈😊
@terrenusvitae
Ай бұрын
@@johnnyplayer2075 you mean "sharktillary"
Ludwig's Holy Blade; it's basically a sword within a sword. Logarius' Wheel: a cart wheel. Kirk Hammer: a sword inside a hammer.
One I always wondered about is the fans you always see used in kung fu movies. What would a combat system for those look like
@SpiggyTech
Ай бұрын
Its basically a baton that folds open into a fan to be distracting.
Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.
@DwarfInBlues
Ай бұрын
It needs the dire rabbit, and no one can make a safe sparring version of one
I,vaguely, remember a sword/jian from an old Chinese movie. The blade was double ended and the hilt slid along the length.
Swordchucks?
Not exactly a weird weapon, but I would like to see some duels with weapons based on the Han-era Ji. It seems like a very versatile design.
From Chinese martial arts: Rope darts / Meteor hammers- easy build with a tennis balls (Full of sand?) on some rope. I don't think I've ever seen sparring with them.
I would love to see y'all try out a hypothetical weapon system I've always been curious about. Spear and shield, but the shield has a cutout to support the spear, so that you can combine two-handed spear technique with having a shield. I've made a version from a Cold Steel large buckler, with an opening twice as large as the shaft, then opening up a bit more into a tall oval, then lining it with felt. If I twist the shield forward, it grips the shaft tightly, or I can relax it to let it slide. I can also disconnect them quickly. But I don't have others to compete against with it, so I don't know how useful it is.
swordchucks...(two swords linked together by the pommels with a chain) swax...(sword with and axe head for a pommel) swagger...(sword with a dagger as the pommel) racepier...(rapier hilted mace) floorhammer...(warhammer head attatched to feet for kicking) bro and arrow..(at any time during a fight you can summon your friend who attempts to stab your opponrnt with an arrow) smellberd..(halberd with poo, or another foul smelling substance on the blade) toll axe...(every swing costs one shilling)
Urumi- GET INSTRUCTION. Otherwise you could flay yourself Boarding knife or fleshing spade (whaling tools) - a three foot double edged blade on a three foot stick and odd-looking polearm respectively Ba Gua Rooster knives, deer horn knives, hook swords French cooper's adze - the really heavy one that covers the entire hand and has a short handle Two handed carpenter's adze Plantation hoe Cast iron pot lid and big kitchen knife Okinawan nunte Chinese hook spear
@scottbrown411
Ай бұрын
The nice part is, if they are making them safe to spar with, they'll make them safe for them to USE without hurting themselves as well :)
My suggestions are lesser known whacky japanese weapons - _tessen_ , or simply war fan (yes, those were real, those are not anime inventions) and _kusarigama_ - a weird throwing scythe/axe thing on a chain, simillar to the tomahawk that that indian girl wielded in the latest "Predator" movie.
staff flail, particularly in use with a hussite style war wagon (how much more defensible is this setup really?) Forwards curving blades such as sickle swords or falx I have a feeling that sparring safe farm implements might be little different than most sparring safe polearms. mock rifles with bayonet should be doable and fun but likely out of the scope of this. Two... shields pike lines meeting without any backup weapon (less that the weapon is dumb, more that the situation it is now in is dumb for the weapon)
Thanks for mention me: I would love to see duel shields on my own channel, but you can make it first ;)
@chengkuoklee5734
Ай бұрын
What if the knights fight in tavern, with medieval accurate chair? Lets say due to some unforseen circumstances the knights lost their weapon, how are they going to translate their normal weapons skills into some objects that they never think of? It would be a fun simulation.
Yeah, meteor hammer/slungshot (sparring version is probably just tennis ball on a string), nunchucks, three-section-staff, lantern shields, bat'leth, chakram (but held, not just thrown), hook swords... There's a lot of fun options to spar with :)
playing with my friends as kids one of my buddies came up with what was a weird technique to fight against where he had lets say a saber and dagger off hand and would swing with the main saber but ice pick grip the dagger. I couldn't ever figure out a proper way to defend against it other than trying to outspace it. The technique is whatever strike you throw you also have an immediate perpendicular thrust with it. And there are other options obviously as well, but that was the one where it just destroyed my brain when it happened.
Billhook blade longsword! Wouldn't be surprised if it actually existed but was lost to history. I could see it being one of those specialised duelling weapons, like the hilted poleaxe and those swords specially designed for half-swording.
What about a morning star, (flail, that is a stick and a spiked ball at the end of a chain), against all swords and combinations of sword and shield, and a whip like Zorro used to have (Disney, Guy Williams). A small sword against a club and or knife. Cheers
I don't know if it would be more Raven Forge or Tod Cutler's thing but I really want to see if wavy bladed weapons (whether eastern like a kris or punyal, or western flambard blades on rapiers or bidenhanders) have any particular advantages over simple curves or a straight edge. I've heard everything from helping with push cuts, or disrupting a bind, to they are totally pointless or have no advantage except style. I just think they are one of those things where we don't have a lot of solid data and it appears to mostly be conjecture.
Actually just about anything can be used as a weapon, soda can or bottle, padlocks (this one I actually used in self defense as a knuckle duster) pencils/pens, even a piece of paper that's prepared right can become quite deadly (ask correctional officers), the hard plastic packaging found around some toys can be made into a finger blade, a knotted rope used as a flail, so if you have a good imagination and know human anatomy and how to exploit that anatomy a weapon can be very easy to make
There was a mafia guy, Frank Nitti. He used a razor as a weapon. What if he met another guy like him.
I am sticking to silly stuff from fiction and not necessarily fantasy/medieval. Good luck testing some of these. Freddy's Glove, A Nightmare on Elm Street Chainswords, Warhammer 40,000 (Good luck!) Starknives, Pathfinder RPG Bat'leth, Star Trek Leg Gun, Planet Terror Crotch Gun, Dusk 'til Dawn Odd Job's hat, James Bond series Chainsaw Hand, Evil Dead series A combat worthy umbrella, multiple properties The Penetrator, Saint's Row
Please test how the yeoman's emergency weapons hold up - pitchforks and scythes...
Two-ended crooked staff. Wings (in the style of Hussar "szyszak" or "wierzchowiec") Fol-de-rol. Drum and drumsticks. Lute. Ladder. Folding sword.
The Faussart from the Maciejowski Bible is probably not very weird, but I never seen one used. The Two-Handed Rapier (as mentioned in the "Swords and Hilt Weapons" book) is also interesting. Or you may try a two-handed rapier with a dagger hidden in the hilt (the so-called Dresden Rapier w/ Dagger) as a weirder option. The Swiss sabre is also quite a unique weapon.
I remember laughing my head off at a vampire in the movie Underground when he had a whip in either hand. Something about it was very Vic & Bob.
Indeed a joyful idea. I have a wishlist. 1. Judicial duel (spiky) shields, both in use by itself, and combined with other weapons, especialy sword. 2. The little spiky shield ("called hungarian sometimes"), in use like left hand defensive weapon, and for example a sword in the right hand. 3. Special duel "anti armour" swords, mostly longsword style. 4. Different kinds of estoc. 5. Bidehänder- Montante
I think what would be the most realistic double-blade/ended sword would be the double vibroblade staff type weapon from the Star Wars Crimson Empire series used by the Royal Guard in it. It has a long handle and could probably be practically wielded.
Peasant weapons: wooden maul, Godendag, scythes, agricultural flails, war-forks etc
I'd like to see one of those fantasy mauls. You know the ones. The ones where the head is the size of a man's torso. I built one out of foam for LARP and it was really fun to swing around but was incredibly cumbersome. I'd like to see what other people's take on it might be.
@j.f.fisher5318
Ай бұрын
Imagine how much more cumbersome it would be made of metal?
@zerentheunskilled
Ай бұрын
@@j.f.fisher5318 It wouldn't need to be made of metal. It could be made of wood and still work as a weapon. It'd just be an oversized mallet.