That guy was pretty humble actually

@rasecphd

3 жыл бұрын

He's a good kid, just looking for answers. Once you go down the path of seeking truth, HE will open the door.

@Daddyvader7

3 жыл бұрын

@@rasecphd This is very true. I searched for truth. Everywhere. Buddhism. Torah the Koran ect. The deeper I dived in the less it made sense

@wisespidey

3 жыл бұрын

@@Daddyvader7 did you dive deeper in hinduism?

@jakeschwartz2514

3 жыл бұрын

@Nathan Desta He found Jesus, if he agrees with the person he responded with

@2believeis2trustandobey

3 жыл бұрын

@@Daddyvader7 Interesting you say Torah but didn't find the truth there. Scripture says it is truth. And Messiah Himself says it speaks of Him.

He sounds like person who would read a book if you gave it to him

@quinntjenkins

3 жыл бұрын

underrated comment

@benv7556

3 жыл бұрын

That geeked me out

@mikegreen2229

3 жыл бұрын

I bet Frank gave him one!

@shankz8854

3 жыл бұрын

He seems like he’s read 66 books or so if you talked him into it well enough.

@hamsandwich9311

3 жыл бұрын

That's good as long as it's not a book of Mormon. Those people suck a lot of people into their false gospel.

Refreshing to see someone who's actually open to engage in debate and change his mind. You can tell he's actually pursuing the truth.

@Moist._Robot

3 жыл бұрын

Are YOU open to changing YOUR mind?

@belemlilly-tariah3428

3 жыл бұрын

@Feedthe5000 how convenient

@lionbolt2136

3 жыл бұрын

@@belemlilly-tariah3428 your looking at all of this like Christians need to keep an open mind because you know We are wrong. And yet you cant proof your stance, You just quote somebody else. There's a big difference between Real Atheism and Inflated Ego, pick which one describes You.

@Moist._Robot

3 жыл бұрын

@Feedthe5000 Thank you for being so honest. How could someone who’s mind is made up ever realise they were wrong if in fact they were?

@Moist._Robot

3 жыл бұрын

@Feedthe5000 You haven’t remotely answered my question.

Taoist in theory - Christian in practice! But I like his attitude, good sport!

@funkygas

3 жыл бұрын

I agree! Nice to see someone not blindly argue back once shown lacking in their argument.

@lkae4

3 жыл бұрын

No doubt. Humble and honest kid. Godless Marxists will eat him alive

@smoker420la

3 жыл бұрын

This guy

@spilkafurtseva1918

3 жыл бұрын

Totally. A light spirit, God bless him

@freddyrodriguez7795

3 жыл бұрын

He’s just going with the flow hahaha

I really wanna give this dude a hug, most people are not able to admit they were wrong or be open minded to accept it. A truth exists and we have to find it.

@blainemaultsby6764

3 жыл бұрын

The truth is found at the cross my friend

@bigfreedom9998

3 жыл бұрын

@@blainemaultsby6764I agree, It was for me, I wanted to put Christ's body at my own feet so I could accept my lifestyle. I was unable to do so in good consciousness and remain logically consistent. Like C.S. Lewis, I surrendered.

@goodvibezinChrist

3 жыл бұрын

Amen I know I didn’t want to admit the truth! Two months straight before I finally admitted it the person I debated with daily! Gave my life over to Christ ever since

@mojmejl3790

3 жыл бұрын

Pride is one of the heaviest sins to bear so much so that admitting it requires a complete change of character, which most people become unable to do. The first sin ever is not Eve's disobedience to God, rather Satan's pride and burning desire to be equal to God. Since that is not possible, he tempted Adam and Eve as a form of retaliation to his ego being tarnished, just like kids throw tantrums when they cannot have 2 ice creams even though 1 is just enough.

@bigfreedom9998

3 жыл бұрын

@@mojmejl3790 Very concise way to put it. Pride, in one form or another, is at the root of almost all sin.

Let’s pray for the dude who may have left Taoism!

@Sn3aKyK1LL3R

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@sonofblessed

3 жыл бұрын

You never know where Taoism will take you, even if that's away from Taoism. :)

@Carlos-np7du

3 жыл бұрын

Amen

@dhaleyy

3 жыл бұрын

Intrepid servant of Christ Hahaha cute!

@davosholdos1253

3 жыл бұрын

Prayer is basically wishful thinking...which nothings wrong in doing so..

Hahah he was funny. I like his good attitude too

@shannoncats5549

3 жыл бұрын

Have we been lied to about Che Guevara? Idk.. maybe...

@labae8728

3 жыл бұрын

He was desperate for truth and looking for truth

@bijogeojose7209

3 жыл бұрын

@@shannoncats5549 Che Guevera changed his life for the good of other people. But the way he chose for that change to happen is questionable.

I wish Atheist were this open-minded.

@ADMusic1999

3 жыл бұрын

Some are

@shamarwashington5574

3 жыл бұрын

@@ADMusic1999 not the ones I know😂💯

@ADMusic1999

3 жыл бұрын

@@shamarwashington5574 you must not know that many.

@shamarwashington5574

3 жыл бұрын

@@ADMusic1999 I do😂💯

@itsJPhere

3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean by "open-minded"? How did you come to the conclusion that you should be "open-minded" about Christianity but not be equally "open-minded" about Ásatrú or Hinduism or Buddhism or Mormonism or Islam or some other religion or even about atheism or Satanism? Why should I be "open-minded" about stuff I don't agree with and find problems with? Shouldn't one be a critical thinker instead?

Humility is the first step to understanding the objective truth

@larizoclack1541

Жыл бұрын

@let love lead Lately I've been thinking of buying cryptocurrency for retirement, I've set asides $350k to invest but along the line, I usually get cold feet, maybe because I have no idea what I'm doing, please I could really use some guidelines.

@saanvi848

Жыл бұрын

@@larizoclack1541

@Mason-vz2kl

Жыл бұрын

Investment guidance sounds like a great idea, thought about it before but never knew how to go about it.

@mrmerry678

Жыл бұрын

@Andrei WoW Loretta Wilkinson ?

@sandra3316

Жыл бұрын

@Antonio Hills This is refreshing coincidence, she has been handling my trade, it's been a year now and the experience has been amazing.

I like this kid. He has a healthy ego and is very humble. Willingness to be coached is a great thing

@oraoraoramudamudamuda8259

3 жыл бұрын

There is no such thing as a “healthy ego”. Also none of these guys understand Taoism

@fortodaymark

2 жыл бұрын

@@oraoraoramudamudamuda8259 Taoism is an far Eastern philosophy and is not easily & readily understood by those who don’t know the original language/s & meanings in which it was written & spoken. Minds of western civilization won’t get the whole package even if properly translated, right? Coloured me curious is all.

LOVE HIM! See with people like that even if we disagree we can have a conversation, most want arguments not understanding- God bless his soul, he’s beautiful!

@mma7

3 жыл бұрын

@J Mireles perfectly said 💕

@DrKeziahSabu

3 жыл бұрын

It takes humility to truly accept the other person's opinions

@shankz8854

3 жыл бұрын

@J Mireles there are also those who see someone questioning their deepest beliefs as “being a jerk”. Even if they’re doing it in a respectful way.

@Rikieak47

3 жыл бұрын

Ok I see you guys like easy prey. That guy obviously doesn't know what he believes in, and you got to convert another weak mind to your cult. Congrats!

@dodibenabba1378

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rikieak47 Riccardo, go and read Isaiah 53 and Psalm 22, then do some of your own research to see when they were written. Then explain to me how they clearly speak of Christ and His mission, and historical events that didn't happen until over 600 years later. Please.

I like Micah, he had such a pleasant demeanor. I pray that he receives Christ.

Dude, The Thumbnail Is A Master piece, Who Makes this?

@theonetruechazz598

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t know, but whoever it is, they aren’t getting paid enough

@dominicks1975

3 жыл бұрын

Yea the thumbnails are hilarious

@SniffingOutPharisees-DanielP

3 жыл бұрын

Frank

@isaackangas6921

3 жыл бұрын

@@SniffingOutPharisees-DanielP I hope so, that would be pretty funny

@ForeverSongMinistries

3 жыл бұрын

Lol, agreed.

Taoism doesn't say to permit all aggression. "Dude" wasn't Taoist to begin with.

Taoism doesn’t mean “go with it” in such a 1-dimensional understanding of it. If the need and impulse to defend or resist arose within you, that would be a flow to go with as well. To resist the natural urge to defend yourself out of what you think going with the flow is, is not really going with the flow.

@RTU130

2 жыл бұрын

E

@DunWorryJockIsHere

2 жыл бұрын

Damn shiot

@CHURCHISAWESUM

2 жыл бұрын

So you should go with any sudden urges you have? Sudden urge was your word not mine.

@manuelsanchezdeinigo3959

Жыл бұрын

@Mr. Helium The Word of YaHWeH holds everything in the Universe together, The Name of The Creator יהוה defines itself Yod Hey Vav Hey [ I AM that I AM ] & Jesus Christ is YaHWeH Adonai The LORD God. All mankind will see that it is by God's Torah , mankind was given morality the Objective Moral path, which paved the way for courts and justice but man still fell short so YaHWeH became man and came as YESHUA Jesus Christ for Atonement of SIN [ transgression of the Torah ] All who all on the name of YESHUA Jesus Christ YaHWeH Adonai will be Saved ! Repent be baptized & rejoice, Jesus Christ lives and Reigns & is coming soon!

@RESTITVTOR_TOTIVS_HISPANIAE

Жыл бұрын

@@manuelsanchezdeinigo3959 he's been coming for quite a long time. You'll say the same until the inevitable end and claim you are right. You claim to know the nature of god yet you claim it to be good and all that is evil as ungodly. Yet a good look at the world will tell you that there is not one without the other and the absolute the same, a synthesis of all, beyond your petty human definitions of good and bad.

I like this guy a lot, I hope he can come to Christ if he hasn't already!

@SOULSafeProductionZ

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. He seems like he would be a great asset to the Kingdom...

@joshuakohlmann9731

2 жыл бұрын

@@SOULSafeProductionZ Jesus famously said, "The Kingdom of God is within you." (Luke 17:21) I don't think you'd find many Taoists who'd disagree with that, though they'd probably phrase it in less theistic terms.

@juniorsir9521

2 жыл бұрын

He kind of also looks like hairy styles. Pun intended.

@arcticangel1628

2 жыл бұрын

@@SOULSafeProductionZ God is what is keeping that child alive. Maybe Jesus be with her and her family.

Such honesty and humility. If indeed he were to become a Christian, he would be such an example God would use for the prideful.

@drewzalo

9 ай бұрын

Perhaps but someone would also dismiss him for his hair or appearance and focus on externals despite internal changes

I love this. Not because Frank was correct but because humble hearts have a careful mind which leads to best (most productive and conducive for learning) experience for everyone.

That guys attitude just gives me joy. If everyone was like that the world would be a much happier place.

People who say they don't believe in evil have had a good life. Ask someone in a Communist country or who's been victim to violence, sexual assault, a loved one being kidnapped or murdered if there's evil in the world. I think they would say different.

@Moist._Robot

3 жыл бұрын

Have you looked up “Evangelicals freaking out on KZread? They have lost their minds.

@Alex-yr8iy

3 жыл бұрын

@@Moist._Robot yep , also watching Atheist freaking out as well

@Moist._Robot

3 жыл бұрын

@@Alex-yr8iy Ooo. Can you show me? And have you watched the video I mentioned above? 👆 These are your leaders.

@mickqQ

3 жыл бұрын

Why a communist country ? Are there no kidnapping sexual assault or murder in Christian countries

@MRakshay-fb2mu

3 жыл бұрын

You just point out the major ones but let me put in just simple way that whenever an superior/experienced employee suppresses newbie at work for whatever reason it is purely evil behaviour in nature & trust me it happens to everyone once in their lifetime.

I feel like the kid had an incredibly basic understanding of a *few*-more philosophical-things about Taoism, but not enough to truly debate it and get his point across. Same for Frank tbh; as being a Taoist doesn't automatically mean being a pushover either.

Very humbled young man he’s searching for the TRUTH which according to John 14:6 is Jesus Christ. I can see that young man preaching the TRUTH of the Word of God very soon. Pray for his salvation! God bless you Dr. Turek

@mrcombustiblelemon2902

3 жыл бұрын

According to deuteronomy 13:1-5, however, Jesus Christ is literally the opposite of the TRUTH. How amusing.

@gloriapichardo3310

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrcombustiblelemon2902 tell me where because I read it like 3 times already and I don't see it

@mrcombustiblelemon2902

3 жыл бұрын

@@gloriapichardo3310 that is because you read the Bible backwards, and thus believe in the circular argument that Jesus was really God -> because Jesus was telling the truth -> because Jesus was really God. If you don't assume what you're trying to prove, and just rely on the events as they were described in the new testament, you are left with a Jew who is a "prophet or dreamer of dreams", who performed "signs and wonders" that "came to pass", and relied on them as evidence to prove that the Jews should worship him in addition to Yahweh (see John 10:25). His followers also don't follow the laws of the old testament (see deu 13:4), claiming to know what God intended when he gave them, and instead of following his explicit instructions they follow a different set of rules made by men and/or Jesus. Lastly, most the Jews of the time rejected his message, and had him executed, just as deu 13:5 says they should do. So, as you can see, the passage fits Jesus like a glove. To top it all off, when asked what the most important commandment is, Jesus quotes deu 13:3 almost verbatim, providing further evidence that he was sent by God to test the Jews.

@gloriapichardo3310

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrcombustiblelemon2902 God bless you

@davidbermudez7704

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrcombustiblelemon2902 Wrong

hello, taoist here! :) i'd like to clear up a little bit of misunderstanding in this video. people often think taoists are constantly passive and will never go against anything. this isn't true. taoism is all about balance, and while they value passivity and tranquility, they also know that it needs to be balanced out with force, but only when it is required. if you've ever seen karate kid, the taoist attitude is very similar to mr miyagi's philosophy, know how to fight, but try to avoid it when possible as fighting never ends well. the kid in the video is a bit misinformed, he certainly means well but he hasn't learned everything yet. but that's okay, even i am still learning. the truth is that taoists know fighting is sometimes necessary for survival. after all, taoism was created during a time of constant war in ancient china. because of the constant war and death however, taoists never celebrated victories, rather they mourned the casualties. because even if you win a war, you still lose lives, but sometimes it just can't be helped. taoists would not sit idly by while nazis tried to take over their country, they would understand that it's required to fight back and take action.

This was nice to see. He didn’t get emotional, he kept an open mind, and admitted when he was wrong. Good for him!

@arcticangel1628

2 жыл бұрын

God is what is keeping that child alive. Maybe Jesus be with her and her family.

Gosh, I was just like this kid when I was his age: the long hair, the interest in Daoism. I like to think I was less cringe, but probably not. Thank God I grew out of it.

I love his humility ❤ a trait that used to be admired.

"Yea pretty much not"

@shamarwashington5574

3 жыл бұрын

My new favorite quote😂😂

@Gerardo-dt8xf

3 жыл бұрын

I'm your 49th like! (7x7) ,✝️

“The man did his research”.... Dr. Turek didn’t come back with any research, he just came back with common sense😂😂

@xkenrockx8294

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!!! 😆 I hope the dude get saved.

@TheSergio1021

3 жыл бұрын

Even common sense is on the level of research nowadays haha

@Jon-fh6nf

3 жыл бұрын

It didn't take any research. Frank just had to use the tactic of applying the logic to itself. If the person is willing to use logic "as this young man was" then he or she will see that these kind of feel good arguments have no grounding in logic. It sounds good to "accept everything" but real logic shows that accepting everything only works until that everything starts infringing on your personal convictions.

@realtyftw9586

3 жыл бұрын

Awww no dont be like that, even tho its true😅😣

@Puzzlesocks

3 жыл бұрын

This kid had no research, he was just pretending because he thought it was cool, but did not actually grasp the concepts of Taoism. The Tao Te Ching is a short book of good advice (for free on the internet, and well worth the hour or so to read at least once) and fits in very well with other precepts of morality. If you take this person as a speaker of the Tao, than you are listening to a fool. This boy is trying to be clever, and cleverness is a sign of a lack of intelligence in Taoism. As someone who has been looking into philosophical Taoism for over a year, even I don't think I have a firm enough grasp to teach others. Responding the arguments of this speaker would be a simple task even with my limited knowledge, but a true Taoist wouldn't have argued to begin with. 2 Timothy 2:14 of the bible: Remind others about these things, and warn them before God not to argue over words. Arguing does not do any good but only destroys those who are listening. Tao Te Ching chapter 81: Truthful words are not beautiful. Beautiful words are not truthful. Good men do not argue. Those who argue are not good. Those who know are not learned. The learned do not know.

Frank Turek is so logical and witty! Very quick on his feet.

@oraoraoramudamudamuda8259

3 жыл бұрын

None of these guys understand Taoism

Gotta give him credit, he definitely went with the flow on Turek's common sense real quick.

@christophercano4809

7 ай бұрын

"Common sense" under incorrect premises, you mean.

I'd have a coversation with this young man rather than the infamous Cody any day!

@tyrnial8095

3 жыл бұрын

Yet God loves both equally and wants both to be saved😄

@dodibenabba1378

2 жыл бұрын

Hey! I love Cody! He's asking questions, you ought to be worried about the ones who don't...

He actually went with the tao, open minded, giving everything up so nothing is left behind. He went middle ground, being in the middle ground is called harmony. Harmony is tao.

Taoism is still misunderstood by both speakers truthfully it's like hearing a chinese guy explaining jesus

@taishici5

3 жыл бұрын

You are right

@shastasilverchairsg

3 жыл бұрын

Jesus was the first Communist. Everything he did anticipated the coming of the most perfect and righteous government on earth, which is the Chinese Communist Party. He was the forerunner and ancestor of the Party sages, of which Chairman Mao was the perfect embodiment and fulfilment.

Thank Brother Frank Turek and Kent Hovind for debunking every Atheist . God bless you so much. ❤

@shankz8854

3 жыл бұрын

And thank you to all the flat earthers that have debunked Einstein and Newton.

@Kaymen1980

3 жыл бұрын

I can to some extent understand why someone would fall victim to the likes of Frank Turek, but Kent Hovind... Unless you have a diagnosis we should know about, you can't excuse that 😂 Even other creationists are telling him to stop..

@arandomyorkshireman9678

3 жыл бұрын

They never debunked anyone.

@abeurakadabeura

3 жыл бұрын

He isn't atheist if he believes in Taoism.. x)

@unkownoflife5959

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kaymen1980 Why is Frank Turek wrong?

I love this young man, it's good that he is asking questions, he looks and reminds me of myself at that age. Pray for him, he's going to get there. 😊

Anyone see that guy laughing in the back?

@DrKeziahSabu

3 жыл бұрын

Yea 😂😂😂😂

@Shortdude691

3 жыл бұрын

He shouldn't be, the man was just trying to seek the truth

@andrewjejdjsjsjshshsj5850

3 жыл бұрын

Kentucky Noises

@autry33

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. I couldn't help to notice. Seemed like he was maybe laughing at the way the kid spoke. Regardless, it was disrespectful.

Props for the dude for not getting butt hurt

Saying “just go with it” shows a big lack of understanding of Taoism

@brettadkins7307

3 жыл бұрын

No one in this comment thread seems to have the slightest idea what taoism is

@sammcknight8671

3 жыл бұрын

@@brettadkins7307 The Tao that can be Told is not the Eternal Tao 😉

@zenwindowcleaning7763

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly is sad to me that this was the kid he tryed to make his point with because they both had a server lack of understanding of the tao and its philosophy.

@bokenovskyjones

3 жыл бұрын

Right, Taoists launched multiple uprisings against tyrants throughout Chinese history

@hxhdfjifzirstc894

3 жыл бұрын

Dr. Turek answers the question based on the students understanding... which is the whole point. Why answer a question that was never asked?

At least he recognized logic and common sense. He'll be alright.

@Gerardo-dt8xf

3 жыл бұрын

Hope he gets saved!

@christophercano4809

7 ай бұрын

"Logic and common sense" under false premises, so under correct premises that "logic and common sense" would break apart.

I like the way he opened by saying he's not a Taoist, but is influenced by Taoist philosophy. He ends by saying he's not a Taoist and somehow it attracts applause this time

I've met many people who see the good and evil concept like this young man (who most times have had quite a smooth life). They don't comprehend that there literally is a GOOD vs EVIL. There's research to suggest extreme naivete can end up causing neurosis when evil eventually does visit that person. I don't understand the confusion though. The Bible is full of examples of very evil people. We must guard our hearts and not be consumed by their evil, but there is evil.

@ParadiseLordRyu

3 жыл бұрын

Good and evil is a matter of perspective. Some people may see their actions as good or evil while others disagree. My good and evil are subjective and depend on my values.

@shankz8854

3 жыл бұрын

Some of the confusion might come from the fact that God commands evil acts. Yet more confusion may stem from “the problem of evil” - why God allows evil actions at all. To me these are insurmountable problems for the Christian, but easily explained by the atheist.

@redskyalice2529

3 жыл бұрын

@@shankz8854 With respect, It's more easily explained by the believer. Please check out his videos on why God allows evil. The atheist concept of good and evil is based on what standard? Who decides? The atheist sees himself as god who wants to defy submission to the Creator. But I'm not the best apologist. Living Waters channel with Ray Comfort has some amazing short videos on this as well. If you are looking for understanding, perhaps I could interest you on his channel as well. Your choice. You can then accept or reject as the Lord gives us choices. Best

@shankz8854

3 жыл бұрын

@@redskyalice2529 So long as you are respectful in what you write, there is no need to begin with “with respect”. I have heard numerous Christian apologists attempt to explain the problem of evil, including Dr Turek. Suffice to say I find their explanations insufficient at best and sometimes downright absurd and despicable (in the case of Dr WL Craigs explanation of everything in human history being morally justified) at worst. Have you ever heard the atheist responses to the questions you pose? There are some excellent ones. Alex O’Connor (cosmic skeptic) has some great videos on objective moral frameworks without god. Finally, if we have an omniscient, omnipotent creator who created everything from nothing (intentionally) then this is logically incompatible with free will. Cheers

@sammcknight8671

3 жыл бұрын

Taoism doesn't say there isn't "GOOD vs EVIL" It simply states that we only know good because there is evil, we can only call ourselves good because we don't do what the Evil people do, you can't have one without the other and that one creates the other and vice versa. What's an evil man but a good man's teacher?

"Yeah pretty much not" LOL!!

I love this guy! So respectful and open to what others have to say. You can tell Micah had a good time talking to Frank, but Frank also had a wonderful time talking to Micah. I love these rare instances, keep on doing your research Micah and God bless!!🙏🙏

I really enjoy seeing people respectfully presenting their claims or questions and keeping an open mind when talking to Frank Turek.

i don't think he was a real daoist. Maybe curious and more supporting or daoism. But not quite a daoist

@taishici5

3 жыл бұрын

Ya he said hes not religiously a Taoist - but is influenced philosophically

That's the humility some atheists need

This dudes attitude is amazing. Would love to hang out with him and just go with the flow

I salute that fella. And anyone who searches whilst asking questions in honesty

I liked his vibe. He seems like a really fun person to be around. I've totally be friends with this dude

The guys is humble and wise. Wise person admits his mistake, but the fool escapes it.

That was perfect! :) Thank You Br. Turek!

Thank you Frank. This was soooo good.

This young man has much to learn about Tao

Taoist: "Go with the flow...." . Me: "Give me all the money in your bank account." . Taoist: "No, I must resist that." . Me: "You're not a Taoist."

@PhillipCummingsUSA

3 жыл бұрын

Go with the flow could also mean that you kick that person 🐱😜

@hewhositsuponfroggychair5722

3 жыл бұрын

creative problem solving

@justanotherguy4382

3 жыл бұрын

@@PhillipCummingsUSA well the boy said go with the flow, dont resist

@saksham10051

3 жыл бұрын

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

@PhillipCummingsUSA

3 жыл бұрын

@@justanotherguy4382 depends on the definition and intention of those words. And I wouldn't take some one that threw the idea away that quickly with no response an expert on the subject. It makes me wonder what the actual belief system entails.

Dr Turek is so gracious, patient and humble.

What a sweet heart. Most people just need to hear truth! ❤️

He was just a younger kid trying to figure out the world. He seems honest and more important Not evil. I think he will find his way.

I love how Frank peacefully roasts people. He does not attack the person but the ideas and tries not to hurt people unnecessarily. I pray that God gives us that kind of patience when witnessing.

Keep up the good work Dr. Turek

Brilliant clip! Good chat!

The ‘dude’ is smart, lol

That's not the ideology of Taoism This guy is giving one liners and somehow thinks it makes everyone Christian

@peachywe4310

3 жыл бұрын

I have similar thought

I commend that man for his humility. It is much easier when you know the truth to exploit the lies within a person, than to be that person and admit you were wrong.

Showing respect to our young and our youth while informing and educating in a firm and loving way is most productive.

This guy knows Taoism at such superficial level

this is ridiculous, neither of them know a thing about taoism, and frank fell into the old trap of thinking inaction is the same as effortless action. taoism isnt about inaction

Idk y this was the most heart warming video, ig I just liked his honesty and open mind and not just fighting to be correct

Why can't people be so humble like this guy?

I like this kid. At least he's open minded!

Im Christian but I've been into Taoism for a while but he's not really representing taosim so well ..the dao is about flow and following the way and following the natural order but Taoism specifically doesn't say what it is or isn't but there are hints .its not about passivity and actually i think its not so against Christianity

beautiful exchange!!

I LOVE this guy. Because he is very intellectually honest. Its so refreshing .

Refreshing!

Technically, by him not resisting the speaker, he was “going with the flow”. So does that mean his declination of being a Daoist make him more of a Daoist? 🤔

@jaedenbennett6931

3 жыл бұрын

Well he never claimed to fully be a taoist only that he was influenced by the teachings, which is evident from his inability to describe it well. In all honesty the teachings of Jesus and Taoism are extremely complimentary to each other

@Puzzlesocks

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaedenbennett6931 I already put this in another comment, but it belongs here as well. As you expect, he has a very limited understanding of Taoism and should not be using it in an argument. 2 Timothy 2:14 of the bible: Remind others about these things, and warn them before God not to argue over words. Arguing does not do any good but only destroys those who are listening. Tao Te Ching chapter 81: Truthful words are not beautiful. Beautiful words are not truthful. Good men do not argue. Those who argue are not good. Those who know are not learned. The learned do not know.

@dodibenabba1378

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaedenbennett6931 They're really not! Let's begin with death and resurrection, let's begin with someone claiming to be the Son of God, let's talk about raising someone from the dead, or the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues, a relationship with the living God is nothing like that false man made religion.

@jaedenbennett6931

2 жыл бұрын

@@dodibenabba1378 whatever you say bud

@pawlygon929

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaedenbennett6931 I’d say that there are definitely points that correlate, but others that do not. I am born again Christian from 2 months ago. Prior to that was getting heavy into Daoist philosophy and taking ALL of it seriously which at some points really messed with my moral compass. “The Dao sees everyone as straw dogs, in the same way the master can seem cold because he sees people as straw dogs” or something along those lines…it’s a very different premise compared to “Love your neighbour as you would love yourself”.

God bless Micah! I'll be praying for him. He seems like an intelligent guy who's open to new ideas. Good for him.

I love Micah! He is humble, willing to be led by the wise, is non combative and has an open heart and was willing to admit wrong and side with truth. That was beautiful. I have never seen that!

The thumbnail though 😂

This is all sort of sad. The kid has a very shrewd idea of Taoism. It isn't about not resisting, it's about non excessive effort. That effort becomes excessive when it is imbalanced. Resisting against Nazi's trying to take over America in fact would be in alignment with Taoism because it is a balanced reaction. Martial arts were created by Taoist monks in fact to resist and fight against people who invaded their temples, but in the most balanced way, to incapacitate someone with as minimal damage possible.

no matter how many times I watch this, it always brings a smile to my face :)

Great exchange there and great questioner: and great vid!

That's what true open mindedness looks like. I bet if someone shared the Gospel with him he would get saved.

@shankz8854

3 жыл бұрын

That’s what someone who’s confused looks like. Dr Turek’s argument is a non sequitur - just because there are real life examples of a concept, doesn’t mean that it is not still just a concept with no physical form and an existence that depends entirely on the existence of moral agents. Without moral agents, the concepts of good and evil cease to exist.

@evidencebasedfaith6658

3 жыл бұрын

@@shankz8854 Well maybe he was confused. But someone can be confused and open minded(seeking answers) at the same time. Those 2 things aren't mutually exclusive. And I wouldn't grant the premise that the existence of morality depends on our existence. I would first have to ask how exactly do you know that?

@shankz8854

3 жыл бұрын

@@evidencebasedfaith6658 I agree - they are not mutually exclusive. I didn’t say morality is dependent on “our” existence I said good/evil (or morality if you like) doesn’t make sense without moral agents. How can you have an evil action without a moral agent?

@evidencebasedfaith6658

3 жыл бұрын

@@shankz8854 Well I agree that anytime you talk about morality it's always in reference to people(personal agents). I mean obviously no one is morally obligated to a rock, or any kind of inanimate object. But that's why I would argue that the Source of morality must also be personal, which is what theists argue. So I think what you're saying actually makes a lot more sense on a theistic worldview.

@shankz8854

3 жыл бұрын

@@evidencebasedfaith6658 Yes, the source _is_ personal - we can agree on that. You think it’s God, I think it’s humans. I’d be interested to hear why you think this makes _more_ sense in a Christian worldview. I mean, the god of the bible does some morally reprehensible things. Even the central doctrine of vicarious redemption is immoral. You _cannot_ absolve people of the responsibility for their actions with blood magic - this is a departure from morality, not an embodiment of it. Perhaps worse still is the concept of hell - eternal damnation for finite sins. I’m yet to meet a theist who can convince me _that_ is moral.

Not sure the guy understands what Taoism is. I'm still to read the Tao Te Ching, but I'm pretty sure the Yin Yang describe the forces of good vs evil - night vs day. Being one with the Dao, simply means accepting things as they are not as you want them to be in terms of the Universe and your life.

@taishici5

3 жыл бұрын

Your understanding is better than his

I actually admire that young man for his humility and willingness to learn. Most others have been arrogant and tried to trap or mock Dr. Turek. Amazing teacher.

Everybody thinks good and evil are "just concepts" until they practically experience both and learn the difference the hard way.

I feel like this conversation was tainted by the presence of an audience, the guy isn't going to feel comfortable speaking his true mind in front of a bunch of strangers who might look at him funny after he has to sit back down. On top of that, I feel like this guy doesn't know nearly enough about Taoism to actually make such broad statements about it. Like thinking murder is just "a thing that happens as apart of the human concept of evil" Has this guy never heard of the 5 Precepts?! Thou shalt not kill any living thing is literally rule number 1 of Taoism! I'm not even a follower, nor do I know enough to even be close to an expert, and I knew that. Do your research before you get up and espouse your opinions in front of a crowd of judgemental strangers, everyone. lol you might just spare yourself a potentially embarrassing experience and get a real insightful conversation instead. that guy did have a real nice jacket in fairness though.

“There is a time for being ahead and a time for being behind.” - Lao Tzu Wei wu wei does not mean nor equal “inaction.” It does not mean Taoist cannot or should not resist nazi invasions. “There is a time for motion and a time for being still.” If nazis are attempting to conquer my people, guess what? That is the time for MOTION lmao ie RESISTANCE 😂 that does not make me not a taoists. Wei wu wei literally translates to “action non-action,” and so this man trying to convince this self-proclaimed Taoist that he is not a taoists is incorrect because he doesn’t understand the Tao. The man who claims to be a Taoist but thinks that it means to not resist anything also is not a Taoist because he doesn’t understand the Tao. A lot of misunderstandings from both parties, neither understand the Tao. They should read the Tao Te Ching once again (I’m not too sure whether they’ve read it but that doesn’t truly matter). Good luck to them both, and all of you descendants of the Roman Catholic inquisitioners, as what they did is what the nazis attempted to do. Roman Catholic inquisitioners were just successful, where the nazis were not. Catholicism, and all of it’s branch religions, are man-made and existed/exist to manipulate and control the masses. Taoists stand in the middle, near the ground. The peaks of peace and valleys of war need not exist when we all simply realize that Taoism exists where the masses finally accept that our nation will be called Peace, and our people will behave peacefully; until a violent actor attempts to enact violence toward us. Only then will we taoists obliterate he or she who violates our peace, then return to living in our peace. And we do not obliterate the entire country of people from which the violent actor(s) came, we ONLY obliterate the violent actor(s); to attempt to justify obliterating their peaceful countrypersons IS NOT in allignment with the Tao. Taoists do not believe in creating alliances with other countries that mandate that we act as aggressors in other countries to maintain said alliance; we protect ourselves, and our peace. America IS NOT aligned with the Tao, nor any other “world-power” countries.

Big ups to Micah and Frank Turek, great clip ✊🏽

I haven’t watched the video yet, but from looking at the title I can tell this is going to be good.

“Tao” is the word used when they translate Jesus as “the Way”. It helps a lot of Chinese understand what that means right away. Just one more miracle of Jesus, IMO.

@Jason-ub4ui

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah just done a quick google fact check- your right! Thank you Jesus for Carols wisdom and the young man's humility.

@shastasilverchairsg

3 жыл бұрын

Christianity was called "The Way" by its adherents in its beginning.

@carolcrone9387

3 жыл бұрын

idiot321321321 exactly!

I dont think anyone in here understands Tao at all.

What a sweet kid!! God Bless him ☺️💙👏🏽

Good question and good answer and good acceptance

Resisting is going with the way of the universe. I'm Christian, but I also understand daoism, and this wasn't a good argument. It's not in human nature to allow yourself to die, or others. Resisting is also "going with it".

He didnt explain the concept properly.

@taishici5

3 жыл бұрын

☝️

Got a mormonism ad on the beginning of this video, hopefully they remove that deceit. God bless this young man!

Frank Terek is like the Batman of Christainity. No matter who challenges him he has a plan and is always ten steps ahead of everyone when they try to debate him or question him.

@oraoraoramudamudamuda8259

3 жыл бұрын

Taoism doesn’t mean to not resist anything. It means to avoid struggling pointlessly

He’s a sweet kid. Hope he understands how much Jesus loves him.

daoism not Taoism says be one with nature... its natural for us to resist what we don't like so yea he could still be daoist... a tiger is one with nature yet it still has to protect one's self.. being defensive does not mean your not daoist.....

@savoirfaire6181

Жыл бұрын

Great points!!

In Daoism, you can set whatever goal you want. You can have the goal of fighting nazis. You just have to fight them without forcing yourself. Fight with ease and naturally. It's like the butcher who finds the weakest points in the meat when runs his knife through it. Find the nazis where they are weakest and cut through that. Let the fear and adrenaline flow through you, but don't let it control you as you fight. That kind of stuff. There is even a Daoist thief in Zhuangzi. So, it doesn't matter what goal you choose.

Totally fulfilling when there's a challenger who's open and humble