Duane taught me how to play slide in 1968! I have two of his old Coricidin bottles that he gifted me! Duane didn’t use the SG/ LP until early 1971. Before that he just retuned his LP!

@mmmatthewww

2 ай бұрын

Good story! You must have known Gerry Groom & Jimmy Ringo? They also were Duane Allman protégés back in that time.

When I heard at Fillmore East for the first time as a young teenager, I was absolutely blown away by Duane , AND Dickey’s playing, and tone. I couldn’t believe it when I found out they used relatively similar gear. For me, those two will always be the pinnacle of both playing, and tone.

Yeah Don, I definitely heard it. Nice playing too!

It’s weird the little accidental events that can shape history. If Duane and Gregg hadn’t gone horseback riding, and Duane hadn’t caught a cold, well….🤔

@paulfrombrooklyn5409

5 ай бұрын

And if Duane wasn't pissed off at Gregg for getting him to go horseback riding in the first place.

@jscharleston7963

3 ай бұрын

Gregg said he might have been responsible for Duane's injured arm-so he took the cold medicine left it at the door rang the bell and ran away so Duane didn't beat him up for hurting his arm. He said that he still had that original bottle he gave Duane. RIP Brothers.

there is absolutely something to it

Duane ‘s secret/not so secret weapon is his singular God given talent & obsession with his love for the guitar & creating music original & unique to the original 6 members of the Allman Brothers Band.

Thank you for this video here, I am Not A Scientist but, I Believe that it in the Molecular Composition of the glass in the Coricidin Bottles, and these bottles are Not Uniformly Straight up and down the Bottle, Duane Is My Hero, if it was not For Gregg Allman leaving this on Duane's Porch after falling off of a horse and injuring his arm, with the Album of Taj Mahall, With the Great Jessie Ed Davis, Playing Statesboro Blues, This would have never happened, Jessie Ed Davis, R.I.P. Was the best Guitar Player Around then, when it came to Music, Cousin Figel

To my ears, you're onto something. For me, sounds like some messy high overtones are naturally filtered out by the Coricidin glass, but the fundamental is left to bloom naturally. Good stuff.

@FlipDahlenburg

3 ай бұрын

It's not so much the glass as the thinness of it, allowing the flattened flesh of the finger to absorb a lot of the messy overtones allowing more of the fundamental to come through unimpeded. The flattening of the finger also affects the style of slide playing. Been playing for many years, started out on a Coricidin bottle.

Use what slide and what finger works best for you it's just that simple don't overcomplicate it?

I can hear it. When you were at the part in the video where you were switching fast between the coriciden bottle and the regular glass slide, it sounded like the regular glass slide had a thinner tone and the corricedin sounded more full and even.

Hey again, thanks for listening to this,, this is actually a re-post that I edited down a little bit to put it on other medians,, great information, but sorry if you already saw this,, it is amazing how much attention this little detail of slide guitar affected..

Always enjoyed talking with you at GC ,LOVE music history! Duane was so good so young he had the magic, Derek Trucks has it too

Derek Trucks has a signature slide, made by Dunlop that is a copy of an actual Coricidin bottle. They specifically denote the glass thickness as its tone secret. $23 at Sweetwater.

Couple of days ago I saw a video of Rory Gallagher playing slide on The Old Grey Whistle Test (popular late night rock show on the BBC), in the 1970s, and he was using some sort of small bottle, with a closed end. I think it was brown glass though. On a Telecaster, not the famous Strat!

The bottle Duane used was manufactured by the Wheaton glass company, part #225540. They no longer make them the mold was destroyed from over use. They were sold later as lab specimen bottles. The proper bottle does o have a child safety top!.

When the band got back together in 1989, Red Dog found a box of empty slide bottles in the bands old storage place in Macon. The company that made them had sent Duane a case of empty bottles. He had called them up in late 1970 and asked if he could buy a case of them because people would steal them off of his amp and he would gift them to people as well. So Schering Labs sent him a case for free! BTW, they changed the opening of the bottle around mid-1972 to accommodate their child-resistant cap.

Make a ring slide, but from thick glass !!!

I believe that there was a whole bunch of nuisance stuff that went into Duane's style and tone. Stylistically he was masterful at the call & response thing within his own playing, and he also used subtle variations on a musical theme that kept it all soundly very story like, and with an effervescent intensity to it all that matched his personality. As far as his tone, I think one big factor was that he let his amp do a lot of the work. If you play through a pushed rig, but with a light touch and attack, it lets the amp breathe and actually sound punchier and fuller. He also employed a short attack/long attack approach to note playing that gave his style a definite 'bounce'. Then there is his note choices and all the rest that made him one of the most compelling and influential guitarists ever.

That was interesting,thanks for sharing that info.

The PVC actually sounds pretty good. Back in the 70's we used to find the straight neck old Wine bottles and there was instructions back then on how to cut those, been so long I forgot how, but we did a couple of those, because the old Bluesman used them. I got 1 orig. Coricidin left mine is not cloudy though. I have a brown one some other old Cold medication bottle, it is or seems slightly thinner. Supposedly there are some Titanium slides out there I have heard a couple players use that sound great but the maker does not do them any more. They were about 50 bucks a slide when he was doing them, they were thicker like the Brass slides, now Brass has it's own sound too, usually used on Dobro's, there are photos of Duane using one of those on his Dobro. I also use those chrome ones you do not like, alot of old rock records have those on them. Gigging I used to switch depending on the Artist/Song to emulate it's sound. I found the old Wine bottle ones to be too heavy side, and it was really hard to find a Straight neck all usually have angles, which is hard to deal with. GREAT VIDEO!!!!

I hear it,thanks

My Pastor (who was the lead guitarist for Nick Danger and the Heat way back in the day) still uses his original old Coricidine bottle to play slide. I started searching for one, but quickly realized that 99.9% of the ones id find were not the real McCoy (after discovering that the cloudiness of the glass was a key indicator). I have a knockoff version, but still searching for an actual one that doesn't cost a fortune. (Just think of all those bottles that ended up in land fills😢😢😢😢😢😢😢).

@mmmatthewww

2 ай бұрын

Love your story. I knew Rock Bottom pretty well (I played guitar briefly in one of his subsequent bands - Rock Bottom & the Jungle Bushmasters) Nick Danger & The Heat was one of the most entertaining acts I've ever seen. They were all excellent musicians and with a totally entertaining stage presence and schtick. I believe that band even predated the 'Blues Brothers' phenomenon, so they were really onto something. They were the Blues Brothers before the movie came out. I recall too, that Gregg Allman was impressed enough with Nick Danger & The Heat that he wore one of the bands tee shirts for a People Magazine interview and photo shoot.

@BigCarmine

2 ай бұрын

@mmmatthewww that t-shirt was my pastors. Greg told him "give me that shirt". as Roger was coming off stage and the Allman Brothers were going on. So they traded shirts between acts (and he wore in that interview as well). Roger and Greg were very good friends, and Greg helped put together the record deal that was supposed to make Nick Danger the next big Southern Blues Rock sensation. The deal was put together, money in escrow, it was all about to happen. But, Pastor Roger found the Lord (had to. His life depended on it....literally). The rest is history. It was Dickey Betts that put Roger in contact with the right person (many years before, in a chance meeting in a guitar store) that launched Roger to that level. Incidentally, I think it was The Outlaws that ended up with that record deal (not 100%positive of that though). I would give my eye teeth to get ahold of some recordings (of any kind) of Nick Danger and the Heat. "Boogie Woogie UFO" is the only song Pastor Roger has a recording of. Thanks for sharing your memories!!!

I don’t see the Silika Sound 426 in your collection. Have never tried the corecin bottle but can definitely hear the big difference. Being in the vicinity of your slide dementia myself, I can assure you the Silika slides are something else.

I'm hoping you'll correct your levels in future vids as your content is cool, and I suspect you've many kindred spirits out here in the wilds of KZread land...

There's definitely something about 'em that's for sure

Not a secret if you're old enough.

I hear the difference Don.

Yes, it’s dirtier

Old cloth ears

wow, what a difficult, pointless video!!!!!!