mine just came in and this is the most premium controller ive ever experienced in my entire life

@kongich7871

4 күн бұрын

Do you really like it What games do you play And the triggers

@NfynitePixels

3 күн бұрын

@@kongich7871 i really like it a lot.. i didn't even know about this company because i was a hardcore XBOX fan and only bought their branded controllers, and when i seen it i just got it because of how it looks, little did i know that this controller was the controller i was looking for and the only complaint i have are the back buttons, if the next one has a better ergonomic feel with the back buttons then ill buy 2 of them.. lol... I've never felt true mechanical buttons and the premium analog sticks are actually premium you'll never get stick drift and omg the Triggers are epic i truly recommend this controller.. its well worth it!!

Wonderful review. Barely anything missed. Very comprehensive

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

Thank you very, very much :)

I just bought one of these yesterday and it arrived today... I'm astonished how nice this is! After a month of pulling my hair out with other "pro" controllers, I finally decided to try one of these. Crazy how nice this controller is.

Awesome very in-depth review for an equally very amazing controller. Great video Shem!

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

I'm getting the Apex 4 here soon can't wait!

so underrated. this channel must have millions subscribers

Yeah this is the review I show my friends. Good work. And a nice choice of natural light background.

@RetroBreezeYT

17 күн бұрын

Thank you so much! I really appreciate that!

i have seen pretty much ever Apex 4 video on youtube, and this is without a doubt one of the best reviews of it! You went into much more detail about the software, the settings both onboard and not, the specs and the overall feel of the controller. What i would like to have seen in your video is more about how pretty much everything is hall-effect (sticks and triggers) so no drift. And the mechanisem of the sticks themselves, truly gamechangeing - they have tiny ballbearings inside! But i get that you didnt want to take it apart to show it.

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

Thank you very much! I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Yes, it's funny I totally forgot to mention the hall sticks. I'd love to take a closer look at the modules at some point!

Great video! A tutorial for adaptive triggers would be amazing as i currently see none on yt 😄

subscribed your reviews are 🔥

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

Amazing review

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

Dude wow! what a review! I got mine coming next week and thanks to you I can set it up and feel at ease!! may I share this video on my gaming channel and credit you in? I feel many people in the gaming world need to get this controller and we should spread the word.

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

Hi! Thanks for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed it. You can feel free to link to the video, but please don't re-upload it.

That controller looks like it could go sentient.

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

I think so too 😁

@joshuadavis5503

Ай бұрын

How was the Flydigi phone mount? Do you recommend it or no?

just got the Eva edition, absolutely love it.

@kongich7871

4 күн бұрын

What games do you play And the triggers

great vid. can the hair trigger be configured similar to a mouse click? like only have to push to 1% to hit a resistance.

LOVE this controller.

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

Me too! Do you have one?

@aweigh1010

Ай бұрын

@@RetroBreezeYT Yes, got almost every flydigi controller. My favorite 3rd party brand, mainly because their analog sticks are always good and "smooth". My main thing that I *hate* the most are analog sticks that feel scratchy, squeaky, or where you can sort of 'feel' the mechanism turning underneath; flydigi sticks (so far) have all been super-smooth, and the Apex 4 sticks are the SMOOTHEST sticks yet! Nothing else compares, though in 2nd-place for smooth sticks I'd give it to the stock DualSense controller, those are pretty dang good too (much smoother than stock Xbox sticks). Maybe Sony and Flydigi use better lube for their analog modules, i dunno.

I have a question, I see in all the reviews the input latency being praised of this controller, but on the gamepadle website, the cable latency for the flydigi apex4 appears to be twice as high as the dual sense. Is this correct? What are your thoughts on that? Because when I see youtubers testing with xinput, the flydigi apex4 scores better every time?

Awesome controller. Waiting for my second one the Eva version.

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

I want to get the EVA version as well! It looks great!

@FJano12

Ай бұрын

@@RetroBreezeYTYeah looks great. Takes ages to arrive though. If ever arrives:)

I have it it’s great

Curious your thoughts on the ability to have a pseudo "trigger stop" with the adaptive triggers. I absolutely love the Vader 3's trigger stops with the mechanical switch. If this controller had that it would be perfect, but in your experience, how does the pseudo stop feel?

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

Great question! Whereas I appreciate the trigger stop feature in the Apex 4 and it does work well, the physical mech switch setup of the Vader 3 Pro is a BILLION times better. Nothing I've tested yet has beaten those Vader 3 triggers for me. They're the best.

are your rumble motors also audible when the controller vibrates? I feel like I can hear a bit of them spinning instead of just the vibration itself

Looks like a great controller! Wonder how this stacks up to the KK3 Max. Which camera are you filming with? The footage is so clean and sharp!

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

Thanks Kei! Been meaning to check out the KK3 Max! I'm glad you like the footage. I'm using a Sony ZV-E10L camera. It's great!

@KeiRetroGaming

Ай бұрын

Well definitely a great purchase for your channel. Keep up the awesome reviews!

I cant fined the website to download the space station app for my apex 4 controller NVM

can I use a random gif(I mean random size/resolution) to set into it? Or I have to dance to make it look normally?

will the adjustable springs solve the reentering issues that people claim halleffect controllers have?

I've had mine for 2 weeks now. I use it with my PC. Every time I turn it on and boot of Call of Duty, the buttons glitch out for the first couple minutes. It's very frustrating. sometimes my gun just keeps firing without pressing the trigger. Sometimes it presses B over and over without me pressing it. Etc. I have not found a solution yet. The only thing that sometimes helps is opening up the Space app for the controller, and just letting it run in the background. Then once things settle down, I can quit the app. The other thing I do not like is the D pad feeling. It's more of a "slide forward/back/left/right" then a down-press click. It's odd, and also very sensitive. Not easy to press repetitively / quickly. Other than that, the sticks are great, the triggers are pretty great, and the other buttons are good.

Great video, where can we buy the different size thumbsticks from?

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

AliExpress - they're FlyDigi branded! So far I've only found black caps though unfortunately

23:27 It looks like the latest version of the software has all of the adaptive trigger stuff built-in w/o any additional mods needed.

hi, you know why my left and right trigger can go only on 20 damping start position and not lower. And in my left and right stick i don’t have the sensibility curve classic but only default instant delay and custom

As a proud Vader 3 Pro user: can't wait for the Vader 4 to drop with all these improvements!

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

I hope so, but they need to keep the micro switch trigger stops!

@zergslayer69

14 күн бұрын

Is there anything the apex 4 doesn’t do that the Vader does?

@RetroBreezeYT

14 күн бұрын

@@zergslayer69 mostly the triggers. Apex 4 has it's force feedback/locking triggers, but the Vader 3 Pro has linear analog triggers with stops that convert the trigger to a micro switch click. For me, it's my number one favourite reason that the Vader 3 Pro will always win out for me.

@zergslayer69

13 күн бұрын

@@RetroBreezeYT ah, sort of like a hardware switch to shorten the trigger on the xbox elite?

Only thing I would want in the future, is that the middle back buttons were to be moved up to the top of the controller instead, where the bumbers and the triggers and for them to feel like mouse click, like Razer does it. Then it would be perfect.

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

Yeah I'd love top-mount macros as well!

Okay to cut out the rumble packs to save weight it sounds quite heavy

at 9:47 you say the triggers are analog, but at 10:17 you say they are not. Do you mean the switch emulator does support it? or the controller simply doesn't have it?

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

The triggers are analog, but the switch does not support analog trigger inputs, so on switch they act like digital triggers.

Wish there was a analog deadzone adjustments for mobile

I wish the bottom buttons where in line and not two of them towards the middle where its Awkward to use

The link for AliExpress for the controller and the dock doesn’t work 😢

すごいね！買う😍

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

why i dont have the classic setup on the pc app?

Anyone got a link for taller thumbsticks?

do you know what kontrolfreeks fit on this controller? i rather playing with a tall stick, preferably domed too

@georgegp1

4 күн бұрын

The ps5 kontrolfreeks fit the best

Where do I go to buy the high rise joysticks I can’t find them anywhere?

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

AliExpress - I'll add a link to the description

Wish the back buttons were better placed, can not seem to leave my middle finger on it because it just slides off whenever i get into some intense gaming. The scuf envision has a slight edge over it IMO but the icue software is terrible compared to spacestation.

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

Oh wow, I've not heard of the Scuf Envision! I'll need to check it out!

How to reset factory? I just updated app and all functions mess

I got one, and something keeps popping out of the left thumb stick module. I have to keep pushing it back in after almost every game.

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

Might be worth contacting your seller for a replacement!

@andylong289

Ай бұрын

@@RetroBreezeYT I bought a new one from Amazon and will be returning the broken one.

How comfortable are the 4 back buttons to press?

@SquishyRSX

12 күн бұрын

Not too comfortable

How does the pc see the controller? As a xbox or ps4 controller?

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

Either X-input (Xbox) or D-input (direct input)

Has anyone played with the trigger settings?

Kinda disappointing that this thing doesn't support configuring Shift layers like the Xbox Elite controller can be configured with via the Xbox Accessories app. Macros and stuff are a bit sketchy for multiplayer games, but a shift layer can give you enough extra "buttons" that might be needed in different scenarios. I hope more companies move to Hall Effect sticks and 4 back buttons with comparable customization (mainly I want the shift layer feature) because the Xbox Elite Series 2 is an RMA disaster.

Hey what mode are you using and how do you use the dongle?

@RetroBreezeYT

17 күн бұрын

Typically I use X-input mode with the dongle, or Bluetooth mode for Switch. Dongle should just work out of the box.

@corpingtons

17 күн бұрын

@@RetroBreezeYT I mean for your android device

@RetroBreezeYT

17 күн бұрын

@@corpingtons yep X-Input with dongle. X-input Bluetooth or Wired works well, too.

@corpingtons

17 күн бұрын

@@RetroBreezeYT thank you

bro pls stress test it.. mine broke, the left analog plastic are snaped. Many user have the same problem on reddit

@jelly9026

21 сағат бұрын

Yeah, i saw a lot of reviews having the left analog stick problem within span of a day to weeks. I kinda just go with my guts and just get something else.

I'm playing mw19 and my apex 4 seems to shoot on the slightest touch of the trigger is this normal or do I have an defective one I changed from trigger lock to general mode and both are same

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

I don't think it would be defective. I'd try factory resetting through the screen or plug it into your PC with the software and adjust the triggers manually

@markdurham68

Ай бұрын

@@RetroBreezeYT I have done all this and it's still the same I tried different games to the slightest touch equals to a full pull of a trigger which is weird because in the flydigi app it works fine in test mode with the number gradually building up to 250 so Im mind blown

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

@@markdurham68 Is it only happening with that one game? If so it's gotta be a configuration issue within the game itself

@markdurham68

Ай бұрын

@@RetroBreezeYT all games bro I checked on xdefiant last night and it's the exact same both triggers to sensitive

I gonna see if I can fit a custom skin onto it

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

Let me know the results!

@itzdcx7991

Ай бұрын

@@RetroBreezeYT yup sure thing I might have to do some DIY Cutouts for its LCD screen

It looks cool but seems redundant to have dualsense features like the triggers without being able to mimic a dualsense or work on a ps5. The gulikit King Kong 3max wins out for me

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

I hear you, but the benefit is that PC users get a dualsense-like experience!

@ItsBoyRed

Ай бұрын

@@RetroBreezeYT You can get true force feedback and even better actually in supported titles, the motors in the Apex are apparently much stronger, or give more feedback when compared to a dualsense. I have not tried it tho, only seen it in another review.

anyone having issues simply using this controller wired up with warzone on PC? I cant seem to get it to work with just wire, it only works with dongle wirelessly.

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

That's odd. Have you changed the connection mode to wired?

Has anyone had a problem mapping keyboard keys the the back buttons on the controller or the controller disconnecting frequently when hardwired on pc?

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

There was a frequent disconnected issue that they fixed with a firmware update- I'd recommend updating asap!

@TinklyMold

Ай бұрын

@@RetroBreezeYT I already sent it back. I paid too much money to have an issue like that. I have been through many controllers and never had a wired controller constantly disconnect

Is the aliexpress one as good as amazon one

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

Yeah its the same item!

My apex 4 stuck in upgrade mod, how to fix bro?

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

Did you disconnect it during an upgrade or something?

@Shadowed_Earth

28 күн бұрын

Hold the X and O button till it changes

this controller actually does work with the PS/Xbox

@miguelortiz1555

15 күн бұрын

is an afirmation ? Pls tell me how with ps

@itzdcx7991

15 күн бұрын

@@miguelortiz1555 I use it on both

I have Samsung s 9 Tablet Android 13 :Soppurt Thais Controller all andriod ???

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

Yes, absolutely it will work!

Did I miss the clicky sounds? Did you put them in?

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

Shoot, I overlooked that part! Check my Direwolf 2 review- the d-pad there is exactly the same.

Awesome. Way too many settings for me

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

I understand that for sure 😁

How do I pair it to my switch?

@Yoitsseb

Ай бұрын

Plug it in or Bluetooth. A little individual testing would suit you well.

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

Just set it to switch mode and it'll pair automatically

What a pretty controller!! I love the clear blue triggers. Shame about that price, though D=

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

It's a lot of controller for the price though! It does go on sale constantly, so keep an eye on Ali if you're interested!

@ItsBoyRed

Ай бұрын

its not that bad if you get it on Ali, and i think its a steal if you compare it to the Dualsense Edge

with that gameplay you showed didnt sell the performance and accuracy very well lmao

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

Good point, thanks for the feedback! I'll show more of that next time!

How do I fix the tension of the joystick to be neutral (I.e. linear with no tuning whatsoever) @retrobreeze

Dualsense edge can be 1000hz pollrate on pc and is 1k wired on ps5

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

Same number?

What this controller is missing is an interjection from Adin Walls.

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

I agree with that statement

I think its too much overkill in some aspects. I own the Apex 3 and I started to think like that after some time. In the Apex 4 case, the tension adjustment is the first point. It's not user friendly, so unless you are thinking of adjusting them only once, any additional setting will require you to stop playing, remove cover, key and adjust the screw. I saw this feature in a Beitong controller about 1 or 2 years ago but the adjustment could be made on the fly, via some rotating rings on the base of the joysticks. Much more user friendly to me, still the perfect situation would be to be able to adjust these via SW and assign them to the profiles because I can see the point of wanting more tension in certain games like racing, while others its irrelevant or require a different setting. The LEDs continue to be of no use, they are fully covered by your hands. Ye I know this is an esthetic gimmick but if so, then provide it in other areas as well. The screen has some improvements starting with it being in English but I would prefer a screen that could for example align you with the type of game/profile you are using. Screensaver is always the same no matter what. But at least you can configure several stuff now when compared to Apex 3, so some improvement there. And finally off course the adaptive triggers protocol which is a battle they won't win. Add all of that to the $90+ price point its crazy. The tension adjustment on the triggers is probably the best feature this controller has and the Apex did as well. Ye it looks nice, the Apex 3 also still looks awesome but that's it. Just my opinion anyways.

@ItsBoyRed

Ай бұрын

the sticks are gamechangeing, the way you adjust them is the proper way, no gimicks. As an other reviwer said (and showed) the Apex 4 actually has true trigger feedback just like the dualsense, if not better - it either has stronger motors or amplifies the output.

@ToysRForever

Ай бұрын

@@ItsBoyRed I didn't say they were gimmicks but rather not user friendly to set unless you set it once and that's it. It's not game changing since someone already did it. The problem with Beitong they don't target foreign markets and their controllers are very expensive. I remember it was being sold over the price of the Apex 3 at the time. But the tension setting mechanism was much more friendly in my opinion.

@ItsBoyRed

Ай бұрын

@@ToysRForever do some research and see how these sticks work vs normal ones, you'll see.

Amazing concept. But having a phone holder makes it cringe and un-pro.

@RetroBreezeYT

Ай бұрын

You can just not use the phone holder? You have to buy it separately anyway

This controller is shit for tekken 8 so don't buy it the D pad is worst