You can try wiring the grinder motor to a drill throttle but grinder motors are designed to spin fast and you'll find not enough torque at low RPM. I think that hole hog drill will work. Low speed setting is 300 RPM, attached directly to a 10 inch wheel equals about 9 MPH. High speed setting 1250 RPM is 37 MPH. It does have an E-CLUTCH which the smaller drills do not. Figure out a way to put the throttle on the wagon handle so you can drive better. Cut the drill apart, extend the motor wires, and attach the throttle trigger to the wagon handle (drive-by-wire). Or loop a cable around the drill handle and attach gokart twist throttle to handle of wagon to squeeze the electric switch (drive-by-cable). I can't wait to see version 3!

@HandymanHertz

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Scott! True, I'm looking for a way to convert my high rpms at the motor (circular saw./grinder) to no or low RPM's at the wheel to get started. I wonder if it would work to get started with the small drill at 10 mph +/- and then switch over to the circular saw/cvt. That way the cvt doesnt have to start at low rpm torque, but more of a middle range power? great idea on the throttle. I bought a bike brake cable that I will attach on version 3, I just wanted to wait until I found out what worked first. Thanks for your input and help! The Hole Hog does have an E-Clutch, But its also meant for way more torque than grinding, and also has a huge handle on it, meaning its meant to catch or absorb a lot of torque. so, i *hope* that the hole hogs E-Clutch threshold for kicking in is a lot higher than the grinder. If not, at least it's variable speed, which may help. Guess we will see! I still need some sort of better clutch system (ideally a manual clutch) for the grinder or circular saw...any ideas?

@ScottBl8ke

4 ай бұрын

@@HandymanHertz I have an 11 tooth sprocket on a 3,500 RPM motor and a 54 tooth sprokect on the wheel = 30 MPH. High RPMs need a small sprocket on the motor and a big sprocket on the wheel to reduce the speed. Play around with Electric Scooter Parts "Top Speed and Gear Ratio Calculator". Tighten up your chain. Move your motor back or add a chain tensioner. You can also add chain guides to keep it from slipping off. You might be able to do a direct drive with the hole hog, meaning no chain or sprockets. But be ware of one wheel peel. Maybe put the drill powered wheel behind you and centered instead of off to one side. The 60 volt DeWalt drill has 2 speed settings. It would be rad to start in low setting and "shift" to high gear when you reach 10 MPH. Clutch ideas: Check out "E-Bike Freewheels" from White Industries and "Freewheel to Axle Adapter" from Electric Scooter Parts. Also Sealey Ratchet Adapter AK737. Or get another hole hog (one for each side) and drive it like a tank (throttle in each hand).

@HandymanHertz

4 ай бұрын

@ScottBlake1 wow… You're a wealth of information! Thanks! interesting… So your motor goes 3500 RPMs, that would be under no load, right? How many RPMs do you think it's actually going in real life? I wonder what percentage it drops, and what I can expect. I'll mess around with that Calculator for sure 👍🏼 I did think about adding a chain tensioner, but ran out of time before getting the video out. Yeah, I thought that would be kind of cool to switch from low gear to shift gear too!!. I need to brace it in a way where I can reach it Good. Thanks, I will check out the E bike, free wheels and free wheels to axle adapter and the ratchet adapter! Not sure I'm quite wanting to invest in another whole hog at this point, but driving a like a tank would be soooooo cool! 😃

Very interesting and looks like you learned a lot! Keep plugging away & you will get it, eventually! 👍👍

@HandymanHertz

4 ай бұрын

Thanks! Yes, I learned a lot. Especially on what not to do. But, thats one way to learn, I guess! Thanks for watching.

The long awaited video! My young boys were riveted when watching. When you finally got it to work they gave out a cheer and a “yessss!!!!” 😂 It’s good for kids to hear the thought process behind it and the example to “keep trying” 👍🏻

@HandymanHertz

4 ай бұрын

I love this!!! Thanks for sharing that! I'll try not to make them wait so long for Handyman Hertzmobile 3.0!

The thing with electric motors- when you reach the peak limit they just plain seize up (unlike an gas engine it's not very damaging though). There's a funny video comparing the new Electric Hummer with the gas version and they do a tug-o-war, the electric just locks up while the gas version can't pull it but the wheels at least spin as it bounces a bit and slides around. These motors just have too much torque to use like this properly, a flywheel between the motor and the drive might be a good idea, it'd help convert that torque to usable power, and maybe with belts rather than chains (but I know, belts are not as easy to customize)- harness the torque and apply it as needed through the wheel with a clutch. It's kinda great that the simplest solution was the best- just a drill- hah hah! Fun video, I've worked construction/remodeling for about 20 Years and the invasive thoughts asked this question many times 'could my circular saw be a go-kart motor'- things like that. Seems they can be!

@HandymanHertz

4 ай бұрын

that makes a lot of sense regarding the seizing up. i'll have to go find that hummer vs e-hummer tug of war, that would be interesting to watch. Yeah, true, I think that I need some sort of manual clutch to apply just the right amount of power. I just have to figure out what that might be. Looks like my intrusive thoughts got the best of me this time! haha

You did it! And now we will anxiously wait for more!!! This was so hilarious! Love the perseverance and ingenuity!🎉

@HandymanHertz

4 ай бұрын

Yeah!! I had a lot of help on it and a lot of brainstorming with others.

Well that was a journey!!!! Lol

@HandymanHertz

4 ай бұрын

haha oh yeah, for sure, but not one I want to go on anytime soon! I hope to have more successful builds from now on!

Great video! Very entertaining! Looking forward to your next video starring HandymanHertz Mobile!😂

@HandymanHertz

4 ай бұрын

Haha thanks! I'm excited too! Any ideas for the next wagon video? Things I could do better?

@jeffhertz2690

4 ай бұрын

Maybe try a chainsaw setup? No lack of power there! 😅

@HandymanHertz

4 ай бұрын

@jeffhertz2690 interesting! I've actually thought of that...it has a clutch and variable speeds...but don't want to spend the money on one quite yet 😅

At 12:10 you can see the rim is spinning in the tire. Looks like it to me . Looks cool Dude, have fun !!

@HandymanHertz

4 ай бұрын

Thanks! the silver wheels are tubeless and do some spinning in the wheel. I am thinking of putting in screws through the metal wheel and rubber tire to stop that. Do you think that would work?

@SkyPathProductions

2 ай бұрын

@@HandymanHertzI’d be worried air would leak out. Either way, this is awesome. I’m building a boat with a giant boat propeller and impact wrench. I’m on round 16, almost got it to work…

Awesome content, i know for a fact u are gonna grow as a channel

@HandymanHertz

3 ай бұрын

Wow, thank you, that's very kind! That means a lot!

If you just break down and put in a live axle and a bigger chain with a real sprocket mount on the axle and possibly a Chain tensioner. The way your bolting the sprocket to the wheel will unfortunately never work. You need a stronger axle. Love watching this!

@HandymanHertz

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for your input! 👍🏼 why won't it Ever work? If it spins the wheel or spins the axle, what's the difference? What am I missing? I do agree an axle would be better. Then I could mount a sprocket in between the dually and on the axle and drive the axle. We'll see, there's a few other tricks I have up my sleeve, but I may end up going the axle rough after all 😆

@drewanderson8279

2 ай бұрын

@HandymanHertz when I say it won't ever work I mean that the chain on the far outside away from the axle mount under the wagon will always flex when the tension gets tight. If you look at a motorcycle rear tire the chain sprocket is inside the axle mounts. Now that I think I don't know of anything that is chain driven on the outside of the axle mount. There will always be flexing. Yes you have 4 bolts holding the sprocket on but the tire itself is center mounted too far away from the chain. The chain needs to be right up agents the bearing so as the torque spins it will not deflect from center. Its so hard to type what I'm thinking. It's all about leverage the further away from the bearing the chain is the more the chain will slack due to loss of tension. Loom how a mini bike chain is set up or a 4 wheeler ,go kart the chain is always between the tire and bearing. This is why the only time you actually got to go fast is when you direct drove the tire with the drill. Gosh I'm rambling on. I hope you understand what I'm saying.

Need some kind of chain tensioner for the grinder/circ saw

@HandymanHertz

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, very true, I do! Thanks for the input 👍🏼

Easy, pillow block bearing 3/4 inch shaft adapting to your cvt primary clutch so the belt tension stays correct then mount your grinder to the shaft, the block bearing can be mounted to the same bracket the cvt is mounted to so there's no torque twist

@1321mikesmith

4 ай бұрын

Also spring roller chain tensioner on return side of chain

@HandymanHertz

4 ай бұрын

Yesss, Thank you! Fixed pillow block bearing is something I hadn't thought of for this. I'll have to look into doing that!

@HandymanHertz

4 ай бұрын

Although...the issue with the grinder is not the mounting, it's the e-clutch. so I need to figure out a way to get that higher RPM converted to low RPM to the wheels

@1321mikesmith

4 ай бұрын

I wonder if there's a wire going from the motor to the brains of the grinder that detects the amp spike you could snip?@@HandymanHertz

@HandymanHertz

4 ай бұрын

@1321mikesmith hmmmmmm you give me an idea 😃 I thought it might be more of a computer thing, but your right, may just be a wire. Not quite ready to destroy my new 60v grinder, but I may get to that point fast! 👍🏼 thanks for the idea!

I’d think the saw would work with the clutch

@HandymanHertz

4 ай бұрын

Interesting. yeah I hadn't thought of using the circular saw with the cvt, seemed at first like it would be hard to finagle, but I'll look into it again. Thanks for you input!

Maybe use a belt that has a tensioner and you use the tensioner as your Accelerator Just like a car motor has Tensioners that kick in and out

@HandymanHertz

Ай бұрын

Interesting, thanks for this idea! Were you thinking for the chain or for the cvt belt?

@astroguy8210

Ай бұрын

@@HandymanHertz belt because I think it would be harder on a chain. The way I imagine it is there would already be enough tension on the belt to keep it there but where it would slip a bit. Using a lever attached to the tensioner to apply more pressure to te belt.

The drill will work due to gear reduction and the rpm started low.

@HandymanHertz

2 ай бұрын

Yup, just like a transmission on a car. 👍🏼

Where’s your helmet ¿🙄😆

@HandymanHertz

3 ай бұрын

Traded it in for a ball cap! 😆

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@HandymanHertz

Ай бұрын

Thanks for coming over 👍🏼