Dual 1019 in the worst condition I have ever seen

Ғылым және технология

This was a good turntable.
will it ever be a good table again?

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  • @patrickmegan8224
    @patrickmegan8224 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. I've got one of these in pretty reasonable condition but walked away from it a few months ago after getting completely frustrated trying to the the mechanism to operate properly. Take it apart, put it back together, and repeat. Several times. Some of these closeups will really help me see how the German engineering was meant to operate.

  • @thomasraden
    @thomasraden2 жыл бұрын

    When I worked at Grundig, we did some extensive maintenance on the Satellite radio units, involving taking out all the rod switches. We used vaseline on the contacts, I guess not wery known nowadays. Spraying all kind of oils into the equipment is really only lazy work. Better to dismantle things totally to find the problem. It will take time, but its the only way. For all kinds of corroded metals, my favourite is autosol metal polish. Man, memories arise, The Grundig Satellite 2000 and 2100 really the state of the art radios with upper side band and lower side bands. I did learn morse when I was in the military in 1987 in northern Sweden. We did sit in our vehicles at night listening to "enemies". We did do morse code with the soviets, although it was forbidden, talking to them about music and computer games. I did not know that WD40 could gum up like that. There is something silicon based here called 556 universal oil that turn into a chewing gum like thing after a while. At my hospital we use a lubrication oil that will last for a long time, if not exposed to dust.

  • @grosses_wassertier666

    @grosses_wassertier666

    2 жыл бұрын

    fond memories

  • @m80116

    @m80116

    Жыл бұрын

    Happened to me as well... silicone lubricant turning into pure SILICONE caulking. I believe the modern counterpart of vaseline (I suppose grease) is the modern lithium based (if I remember correctly) white grease. I have bought some on the basis that I see 30+ years older machines that still have this kind of grease still effectively wet and greasy, so it must be a very good formula to last for so many years, unlike several other type of oils which I usually find no traces of, if they ever used them at all in production.

  • @andershammer9307
    @andershammer93072 жыл бұрын

    I have 2 1019's. With a good cartridge these are one of the best sounding Dual Turntables.

  • @MrRepeters
    @MrRepeters4 ай бұрын

    Your work, along with the going prices, has inspired me to revive my garage queen, DUAL 1219 turntable. Luckily my DUAL has been in my possession since new.

  • @jamesconway5221
    @jamesconway52212 жыл бұрын

    Hi 12voltvids. Holy crap that work was awesome, all the wd40 and everything else was amazing to see, but truly great work, the weight of it was a very amazing, a good workout for your arms( just kidding) but I love your work you do ,even in the heat of the TV was on test. my God it was a pig of a job, everything stuck badly, I have to say you have to say you have great patience and patience is a virtue, but you have them. Kind regards from Jim.👍👍👍

  • @steveoszman8746
    @steveoszman87462 жыл бұрын

    I bought a Benjamin Miracord from a estate auction paid nothing for it. The turntable had spent a great deal of its life in a shed. After a day of cleaning and breaking the parts free from rust nd and hardened grease it played ok. It has the wrong spindle but works like a semiautomatic. Those German turntables have a lot of weight but, they sound very nice. Your patience with repair is very good.

  • @iantyler4045
    @iantyler4045 Жыл бұрын

    I have a Dual 1229 which is essentially the same. For what they are they are very nicely made and with a bit of TLC they can perform very well. The biggest problem is the idler wheel which is not obtainable and causes wow and flutter problems when the rubber goes hard. A reasonable fix is to put the wheel in a slow speed drill and rough the surface up with some emery paper. I have to do this every few years but it restores the performance nicely. The other thing to be careful of is when the turntable is inverted to work on the ball bearing which sits under the arm lever falls out leaving one to ponder where it came from. An exploded view shows where it belongs.

  • @alanarmstrong2323
    @alanarmstrong23232 жыл бұрын

    Love my 1219 and 1229 with a little work they will give hours of enjoyment !

  • @wheelhorseman2306
    @wheelhorseman23062 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for posting this video. I had a similar experience with a 1264- hours of time trying to get it right, messing with the "steurpimpel" and such, and I have the original paper factory service manual. Motor wouldn't spin, wouldn't come up to speed, mechanism wouldn't cycle- unfortunately, it's still pretty finicky- I'm gonna clean it some more, and remove some of the three in one oil that I applied...

  • @patrickmegan8224

    @patrickmegan8224

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, the "steurpimpel". I'm quite sure this little bit of plastic on my 1019 has been worn down to a point where it needs replacing. I'm experimenting with some ideas that may work, kind of like how 12voltvids used the concrete wall anchor and bolt, washers and nuts counterweight in this video! I was hoping 12voltvids might have had to explore this area of the turntable but I guess he didn't need to. Or want to!

  • @AudiophileStooge
    @AudiophileStooge9 ай бұрын

    I have this same model I'm about to do a deep dive. This was very informative

  • @m80116
    @m80116 Жыл бұрын

    Did you ever try to spray clean it? There's a couple of quick solutions for parts that I use: bike chain cleaner, acetone and isopropyl alcohol. Bike chain cleaner can be deeply unsafe for rubber but probably works best as the can is high pressured. Acetone can also work well but vapors are extremely flammable and prone to ignite and is unsafe for plastics. For fingernails I've read it can be smothered with glycerin but I wouldn't bet it would also work on plastics. Isopropyl is probably the best when sprayed and better if worked with a brush, yet it is unsafe for clear plastics used in display windows (still several times milder than acetone). They can be permanently stained. But sometimes somebody's gotta do it, especially for a quick evaluation of a machine before spending time for deep disassembly of something you're not familiar with, take note step by step, have several attempts... judging by the appearance of the device this is one of those units that I'd dare to try... where spraying with isoprop and a clean paper towel underneath you could appreciate the gunk dripping away from parts. I WOULD NEVER EVER DIP a PCB in acetone or chain cleaner. Isopropyl could be safer but it's not a cure all tool... I would never spray it over transformer area for example. You must know what you're doing... a lot like WD40 which I never use for electronics repair. I tend to use a de-oxidant product which has washing characteristics and leave a very thin oil residue, almost unable to provide significant lubrication but still having some relief for moving parts. One should use a proper oil afterwards or use it just for parts designed to have tight tolerances like sleeve bearings of small capstan driveshafts.

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife2 жыл бұрын

    Run. Run far away!

  • @dannyalvens5418
    @dannyalvens54185 ай бұрын

    I picked up one at a resale shop for 10.00 , In damn near mint condition. Cleaned out all the old grease and oil and it works fantastic....

  • @12voltvids

    @12voltvids

    5 ай бұрын

    When they work they work ok but you have to use them all the time or they gum up

  • @chass5438
    @chass5438 Жыл бұрын

    The BIC I bought had a frozen platter and there was Oil all over the back and side of the Chassis. I bet somebody used it on that as well. I just used a soldering iron in the stacker hole and it freed right up. Works like new.

  • @brunoprimas1483
    @brunoprimas14832 жыл бұрын

    The 1019 uses a AW2 stacker spindle. The 1218, 1219, etc, uses the AW3.

  • @veb6814
    @veb68142 жыл бұрын

    This episode brought to you by wd-40 lol.

  • @marka1986
    @marka19862 жыл бұрын

    People did that to VCRs too. If it squeaks, it must need wd 40. Started out with a slipping load belt but what a mess. The brakes, back tension band, and idler clutch are done for. One time was lucky to have a spare deck plate to swap.

  • @zulumax1
    @zulumax12 жыл бұрын

    What a time vampire that was, reminds me of working on an IBM selectric typewriter. Ever work on one of those? The grease turns to hard wax and gums the works on those too.

  • @12voltvids

    @12voltvids

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have an ibm selectric typewriter. I am scared to work on it. It's been sitting for 30 years.

  • @CameraTimDotCom
    @CameraTimDotCom2 жыл бұрын

    That would stink! I've got a turntable that someone sprayed WD40 into the arm lifter 30 years ago, it still hurts my lungs when I open the lid. And it made the pick-up drop like a stone instead of smoothly descend to the record.

  • @rawr51919

    @rawr51919

    2 жыл бұрын

    About the only thing saving this turntable is a full teardown and ultrasonic deep-cleaning

  • @thomasball3658
    @thomasball3658 Жыл бұрын

    You saved a beauty from the landfill.

  • @12voltvids

    @12voltvids

    Жыл бұрын

    Well the smelter anyway. We don't put electronics in the landfill here. Has been illegal for the past 20 years at least.

  • @AliensInc.
    @AliensInc. Жыл бұрын

    Cool, you got 78's too! Dad had a lot of 'em, now at moms after he 'left us' He loved Dizzy Gillespie and Louis Armstrong and long time ago I could sing a lot of Armstrong's lyrics as I've heard 'em a LOT!!!

  • @12voltvids

    @12voltvids

    Жыл бұрын

    I have about 30 78s. Harry James, Benny Goodman, Arthur fiedler and Boston pops, being Crosby, Frank sinetra. Had a bunch of very old opera records but they didn't interest me so i sold the lot only hanging onto a few on rare labels.

  • @Masterheavens
    @Masterheavens2 жыл бұрын

    Nice Work :)

  • @ralphj4012
    @ralphj40122 жыл бұрын

    In awe of your patience. Love the counterweight and rawlplug spindle. Disappointed though that you didn't revert to the supplied (incorrect) spindle, just so we could see it poking through the hole in the cover.

  • @12voltvids

    @12voltvids

    2 жыл бұрын

    That one won't work. It never worked. Why? Because the index pin that normally locks the spindle into the platter base is sticking up higher than where the record would sit on the platter thereby stopping the record from actually even making contact with the platter. So the only way that spindle would work would be to set the record on the platter and then stick the spindle through the hole in the record. This turntable had been cannibalized. Someone took not only the spindle but the counterweight probably sold them before selling the guts are giving the guts to the guy that brought it to me. Perhaps the guy that gave it to me stole the parts to fix another one and then gave me the remains but one thing for sure with the spindle that was on there it could have never played a record and I think that someone stole the spindle put the wrong spindle in cut a hole in the top so that the top would sit on it and then covered it with a vinyl tape so the top would sit down on it and then sold it. That's kind of what I think happened on this unit was it got sold to someone unsuspecting. but there's not a snowball's chance in hell that that spindle that was on the unit when I got it would do anything and the only way it would actually even work would be to cut about an inch off the bottom of it so that the locking pin could fit into the slot on the turntable but it would have to be cut sufficiently short so that the mechanism would not make contact with it when an autocycled otherwise it would jam the mechanism because this mechanism is specs to push up on the base of the spindle and that type of spindle that's in it is expecting a lateral moving arm to activate the record drop mechanism.

  • @ralphj4012

    @ralphj4012

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@12voltvids You know I was joking, right (and apologies for my sarcasm). Clearly whoever owned that / handled that (in that condition), prior to you receiving it, had no clue about anything. I choked on my cornflakes when I saw the WD40 residue everywhere and the hole in the cover.

  • @12voltvids

    @12voltvids

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ralphj4012 actually I did try the original spindle that was on there when I got it and found that the record wouldn't make contact with the platter but I didn't show it on video. I believe that spindle that was stuck on it when I got it came from a BSR but obviously somebody thought it would work when they flogged It off because they cut a hole in the top cover to make the cover fit of all that bloody stupid things that someone could have done again this was a disaster. I doubt that the guy that brought it to me will want it back because for all the time that I worked on it he won't be able to afford it. I'll talk to some of my turntable collectors and see if anybody's got a spare spindle and a proper counterweight and then I can sell it or maybe sell it to one of my collector friends that might have those parts because it definitely is a good changer now that it's working properly in it we're probably work fine for years. But the only reason why I would never consider keeping this is because it has the 16 RPM speed. Not that I have any 16 RPM discs to play on it.

  • @ralphj4012

    @ralphj4012

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@12voltvids I wish you success in finding the parts, maybe even an affordable cover. I'm in my 60's (you can probably tell) and I have never heard of 16 RPM records, until now.

  • @12voltvids

    @12voltvids

    2 жыл бұрын

    16 RPM were typically transcription records. They're also used by seaburg in their music machine but it also used a much larger center hole than even 45s used so to play those records you need an adapter which today could be relatively easy made. I-16 RPM transcription record maybe I can borrow it from him sometime in show it off. 16 RPM obviously offered a much longer playing time but at a reduced fidelity and that's why seeburg used them in their music service machine. I don't have one of those I've seen one once I wish I had one I know tecmoan has one. We had an old seaberg 1000 background music system at the cable station that I worked at back in 1980 81 82. It had been used to play the background music that ran over the message board when the community station was off air. I still remember the system quite well I wish I was able to grab it but it was leased. Our old message board that we had was a joke and I only saw it a few times because I worked on the TV production side and the message board was on the cable TV office side. It was in the furnace room along with the hot water heater and a breaker panel that controlled lights in one of the studios. that's when I got to see it when I had to go reset a trip breaker. But the message board was so primitive it had been installed in the late '60s or early seventies and it showed. We nicknamed it turnabout or carousel or many other names for this ridiculous piece of equipment. It was made out of wood, had a clock, wind speed and wind direction gauge, thermometer and barometer. Between each of the instruments was a slot where a paper card with a typewritten community announcement message was placed. This was turned by a barbecue rotisserie motor and it was a small mechanical switch that protruded were each of the message-based cards would sit. When this mechanical switch was tripped the motor would shut off and it would start a 22nd timer so that it would stop turning for 20 seconds to give the person time to read the message then it would start turning again so the clock or the wind speed would just turn past the camera to the next message came up it would stop. It had a black and white Hitachi closed circuit camera focused on the gauges and card and was illuminated with 2 40 watt incandescent bulbs. This contraption used to sit on top of the water heater and next to it was a seaburg 1000. I remember one time watching this thing run for a few minutes. It would play the top side of the record the arm would retract the spindle would reverse directions and it would play the bottom side if the record once the bottom side finished it would retract drop the next record down and start over and I think it would hold five or six records each one each side playing I think 30 to 40 minutes per side. Once the last record finished playing the mechanism would hoist them all back up to the top and it would start over. That system ran for years. When I was a kid growing up I used to put on channel 10 and watch this thing turn around when the station wasn't on the air. Then I started working there and saw what it really was which I thought at the time was kind of cool obviously something that was built in house by the engineer. I did volunteer work there for a couple years and then did an internship when I was in college studying broadcast. By that point the seaberg was gone as was roundabout and he'd been replaced by a multicolor message board computer. The music then had transitioned to an auto reverse Sony reel to reel tape deck that took 10 and 1/2 in reels. At least tapes from a licensing company. I remember one night I put my own mixtape on and left it running when I shut the station down. In the morning I had a very unpleasant discussion with my boss and the station manager. something about royalties for the music that I had put on the community station overnight. They weren't impressed. Big sticker was stuck on the tape and it said do not play this ever again.

  • @Jammerk40
    @Jammerk402 жыл бұрын

    How could someone do this to a dual! They are good turntables!

  • @LMOTL
    @LMOTL Жыл бұрын

    The 1019 Is a great table when maintained.

  • @wklorenz
    @wklorenz Жыл бұрын

    When my 1019 gets to the end of the album and enters the excursion groove it jerks back and then the arm lifts before returning home and shutting off. Any idea of what causes this? Any help would be appreciated. Bill

  • @jeronronnunkoffunk4691
    @jeronronnunkoffunk4691 Жыл бұрын

    Great video have picked up a lot from this, having a little experience with these, I’m curious is the steuerpimpel (don’t know if I spelled correctly) deteriorated on that one I wonder if that may also have a bit to do with arm landing in right spot of the record sometime , and it will cause that jerking motion when arm is in movement

  • @12voltvids

    @12voltvids

    Жыл бұрын

    When the stuerpimple is worn the arm will hesitate. The drop point is adjustable by a screw.

  • @jeronronnunkoffunk4691

    @jeronronnunkoffunk4691

    Жыл бұрын

    @@12voltvids ahh ok , good to know that the point of drop is just a matter of adjustment and not affected by stuerpimpel

  • @12voltvids

    @12voltvids

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jeronronnunkoffunk4691 of the stuerpimple is worn our the arm may not move completely but the drop point is an adjustment. On many models it is under the dual badge on the right. You lift slightly and turn and there is a hole where the adjustment screw is. This varies by model.

  • @zulumax1
    @zulumax12 жыл бұрын

    Would Zoom Spout white machine oil be ok for a motor like this one? Not sure if the viscosity would be too thin.

  • @SDsailor7

    @SDsailor7

    Жыл бұрын

    I like that oil.

  • @jameskrivitsky9715
    @jameskrivitsky97152 жыл бұрын

    Guess it won't get any less value if you cut a slot in the rear of the dust cover for the "Franken-tonearm " or more heavy washers to reduce the length. What a job Dave......congrats.

  • @12voltvids

    @12voltvids

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cover fits fine.

  • @hestheMaster
    @hestheMaster Жыл бұрын

    Free Dual 1019 turntable full of WD-40. Yeah, this is going to get messy. May take 1/4 of a bottle of IPA and 1/2 of a box of Q-tips to clean it up. It's like a down the rabbit hole clean up job for sure. After much fiddling you got it back to a reasonable working condition . Now we know that wow does depend on using a heavier turntable platter.

  • @jerryking7502
    @jerryking75022 жыл бұрын

    I have a couple of questions for you...First of all, are you in Canada? Second, I have a Dual 606 that the speed has slowed down. It doesn't vary, just slower. It is a DD... My experience with machines of that vintage is they ALL need to be fully degreased to get them working properly again...

  • @alexispieltin9379
    @alexispieltin93792 жыл бұрын

    Another one saved! This job is the perfect proof some people should never touch nice equipment with their "greasy and sticky" fingers, and WD40. I also had such kind of problem, multiple times, and these record players are the best victims because they look simple, but are most of the time the result of fine mechanical adjustments, 50 years of development (for these German turntables)... And DW 40 never never has to touch any fine mechanism if you're not into sabotage or simply stupid. This 1019 should probably benefit from few parts like a counterweight and spindle, but your makeshift Frankenstein solutions are probably the best to proof it's functional, as you can always find bad surprises or really destroyed parts. In the same idea, a new cover or a new cartridge could be more costly than necessary as it's mostly the future owner's choice. These old Dual are surprisingly good with their heavy platter, enormous motors and spindle, and with the proper (and patient) maintenance, probably the dream of that future owner.

  • @truck9moon100
    @truck9moon1002 жыл бұрын

    The item is Steuerpimpel, used in all Duals.

  • @jamesbaker429
    @jamesbaker4292 жыл бұрын

    First job some spirit on a cloth and clean all surfaces of grease to make a better surface to work on it will then be less a dust magnet too.It fought you all the way.

  • @hsvfan_x1212
    @hsvfan_x12122 жыл бұрын

    Top Video. What clock you have on your arm? Sorry for my bad english, i m from germany. I mean your Digital watch

  • @12voltvids

    @12voltvids

    2 жыл бұрын

    Casio wv300. It's very rare

  • @hsvfan_x1212

    @hsvfan_x1212

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@12voltvids Thanks you. Its a very beautiful watch. 👍

  • @12voltvids

    @12voltvids

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hsvfan_x1212 it's pretty rare. Radio set and solar powered.

  • @jasonthewiczman5442
    @jasonthewiczman54422 жыл бұрын

    Dual 1019 I like to get my hands on a 1219 , Dual great machines

  • @jerrygeorgopolis8015
    @jerrygeorgopolis80152 жыл бұрын

    Interesting video particularly for me. Purchased my 1019 in 1968 while stationed in Germany, at a Canadian PX in Zweibrucken. Highly rated turntable at the time for the price, it needed to be optioned when I returned home for U.S. use. My biggest complaint is with the cartridge/tonearm hookup. Spring like fingers make contact with the cartridge, once it is locked in place. Because of age these sometimes don't make a connection, and either the left or right channel is out. My record sizes on the right of turntable are 17-25-30cms (7-10-12) ! Thanks for the video...

  • @goodun2974

    @goodun2974

    2 жыл бұрын

    Clean the strips of metal in the headshell assembly with a pencil eraser.

  • @grosses_wassertier666
    @grosses_wassertier6662 жыл бұрын

    I sprayed some silicon shit in one of my cassette decks because I'm clueless. Will have to disassemble and clean everything off with isopropyl before it gums up like this. It's gonna be fun. Already bought some expensive watch oil. It's around 8€ a 10ml bottle, so I'll use it sparingly where it's supposed to go instead of spraying everything up like a maniac

  • @elektrokinesis4150

    @elektrokinesis4150

    2 жыл бұрын

    just use sewing machine oil

  • @grosses_wassertier666

    @grosses_wassertier666

    Жыл бұрын

    @@elektrokinesis4150 I thought it might evaporate, so I think of this watch oil as a more permanent solution

  • @elektrokinesis4150

    @elektrokinesis4150

    Жыл бұрын

    you're thinking of clock oil, watch oil is very very light

  • @Hounddoggy33
    @Hounddoggy332 жыл бұрын

    If only "Peanut Gallery Dave" could have warned his earlier self to drop and kick this one to the curb. With this weather, Dave should be out on the bike, or in the house with AC on warp 4.

  • @jamesbaker429
    @jamesbaker4292 жыл бұрын

    It's a wonder the cartridge is good ,all the sticky residue acts as a damper on all the mechanicals or stops them ,I wonder where the lead went.

  • @goodun2974

    @goodun2974

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also note that some models of dual turntable have mute switches that that shut off the cartridge output or short it to ground when the machine is in changer mode and or the arm is moving, so that you don't hear a clankclank clank noises through your speakers. Those switchess oxidize badly and should be cleaned. You can't just spray them with contact cleaner, you need to polish the contacts with a pencil eraser.

  • @marktubeie07
    @marktubeie072 жыл бұрын

    Also wrong spindle supplied, should be an umbrella type. This TT is indeed a mess...

  • @edwinsinclair9853
    @edwinsinclair9853 Жыл бұрын

    Need the counterweight for the tone arm.

  • @12voltvids

    @12voltvids

    Жыл бұрын

    Sure

  • @pcno2832
    @pcno28322 жыл бұрын

    I have to wonder if WD40 alone could gum up a mechanism that badly. I've put it on lots of things, even flooded the gap around a window to ant-proof it (it's amazing as a pesticide) and I've never seen much residue at all once it dries. Could they have used some other kind of oil and simply used too much? The oils they used at the factory on Garrard and BSR changers hardens like glue; it's almost as if they used cooking oil in those days. Whatever they used had to be fairly flame resistant, so it wasn't the idea long term lubricant.

  • @dannyalvens5418

    @dannyalvens5418

    5 ай бұрын

    It is a combination of the old lubricant and WD-40 and add to it that WD-40 is a dust magnet and you have an instant headache.. The designers and builders of Dual turntables didn't think or expect their turntables to last 30,40 , 50 or even 60 years.and for them to last that long is a testament to great design and engineering..At the time they used the best oil or grease for their intended purposes..With modern oils and greases, Many of the older turntables will outlast their modern counterparts because of the quality of the parts used to build them..

  • @kc4cvh
    @kc4cvh Жыл бұрын

    10:10 Don't do that! Never beat on the motor shaft as it's likely to shift the rotor on the shaft or force a bearing from its mounting. Instead, clamp the motor in a padded vise and tap the edge of the bell end of the motor with a blunt chisel, then tap again 180 degrees away, and so on until the cover comes off.

  • @martinda7446

    @martinda7446

    Жыл бұрын

    Too late.

  • @SDsailor7
    @SDsailor7 Жыл бұрын

    Is it worth buying one of these if they are in decent condition? Anyone knows? Thank you

  • @12voltvids

    @12voltvids

    Жыл бұрын

    These are idler drive tables. They will always have higher rubble and wow than belt or direct drive.

  • @SDsailor7

    @SDsailor7

    Жыл бұрын

    @@12voltvids So is it because of more moving parts then that cause wow and rumble?

  • @12voltvids

    @12voltvids

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SDsailor7 the rubber tire gets hard and transmits the noise from the motor.

  • @SDsailor7

    @SDsailor7

    Жыл бұрын

    @@12voltvids ah. I see.

  • @catsbyondrepair
    @catsbyondrepair2 жыл бұрын

    Challenge more like worst knightmare

  • @saint_and_holy_unicorn
    @saint_and_holy_unicorn2 жыл бұрын

    If you use WD-40 in small quantities just like any other oil, why that would be a problem? Personally I add just a small drop to lubricate mechanisms, gears and it works perfectly. I think if you use it properly as if it was an ordinary oil, you won't have problems.

  • @goodun2974

    @goodun2974

    2 жыл бұрын

    WD40 *is not an oil*. It was designed as a water displacement formula. It's lubricating capabilities are temporary at best and it dries up and leaves a residue. Do not use it to lubricate things.

  • @saint_and_holy_unicorn

    @saint_and_holy_unicorn

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@goodun2974 who knows, maybe you are right... In my case it hasn't created any problems so far. It stays fresh for a long time.. ok, when its solvent evaporates, it reduces the volume, but it leaves the oils behind keeping the machine running. What concerns me is if it harms plastic gears. The package doesn't warn though... I use it mostly to keep gears running on VCRs, DVD players etc...

  • @goodun2974

    @goodun2974

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@saint_and_holy_unicorn I have been repairing audio electronics for 50 years. I never use WD40. I don''t believe that it specifically damages plastic, but the only valid use it has for electronics work is that it is pretty good for cleaning ol, grungy plated-metal, unpainted chassis on guitar amps. As for the instructions and precautions on any kind of can of solvent, contact cleaner or lubricant, virtually no one ever puts anything on the packaging of their product that might discourage sales. Every product ever made by anyone is of course a miracle product and will solve all your problems in life. I've seen contact cleaners that say "Cleans and Lubricates!" in big bold letters but elsewhere on the can say "leaves no residue!". Obviously, both of these things cannot be true. I have seen the insides of amplifiers that had corrosion on connectors and circuit boards because somebody sprayed something inside there as a "contact cleaner" that was either inappropriate for that use or they used way too much of it and it flowed into the wrong places. PS, most plastic gears were originally lubed with some type of white lithium grease similar to Lubriplate, or perhaps gray Moly-lube. Silicone lubes can attack some types of plastic.

  • @saint_and_holy_unicorn

    @saint_and_holy_unicorn

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@goodun2974 ok, I'll keep that in mind, thanks for the info! My fear was mainly for the plastic gears because I've seen people claiming that WD-40 can harm them.

  • @ralphj4012

    @ralphj4012

    2 жыл бұрын

    In my experience conventional WD40 doesn't lubricate, it can release stuck / grungy parts when used in moderation but should always be cleaned off and then followed up with a proper light oil (something like sewing machine oil or light lithium grease for the turntable). Spray WD40 on a stuck rusty gate hinge and it will likely free up but will then squeak like hell until oiled.

  • @mguess
    @mguess2 жыл бұрын

    That poor old 1019 was a real mess. Congrats on getting it working! While watching the video I was wondering when you would notice that the counter-weight was missing. I like you solution to the missing part. You are correct, the heavy (7.5lbs) platter does help with Wow specs. The 1019 came out on top in my recent Wow measurement competition video on 4 different vintage turntables. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZqKMo8yYk8_glLw.html

  • @12voltvids

    @12voltvids

    Жыл бұрын

    I may have to do that. A shoot out on different tables I have. Great idea as I have a bunch to compare.

  • @mguess

    @mguess

    Жыл бұрын

    @@12voltvids make a video of the results so I can compare my turntables.

  • @JasonHalversonjaydog
    @JasonHalversonjaydog2 жыл бұрын

    drinking game, every time he mentions wd40 LOL

  • @ingenfestbrems
    @ingenfestbrems2 жыл бұрын

    Whats wrong with wd40?

  • @EsotericArctos
    @EsotericArctos Жыл бұрын

    I've seen WD40 destroy several of these machines. People don't realise that WD40 dries like glue, not to mention a lot of the parts in these should not have a lubricant placed anywhere near them. At the start, I didn't envy you attacking this one. Every single part would have needed cleaning ,degreasing (or de-wd40ing) and then a full relube. No wonder it took you so long..... I usually find the speed stabilises more after 5 to 10 minutes running, though the speed on this one looks pretty good and fairly stable. I don't see this one becoming a daily driver :)

  • @elektrokinesis4150
    @elektrokinesis41502 жыл бұрын

    brake cleaner eats wd40 for breakfast

  • @catsbyondrepair
    @catsbyondrepair2 жыл бұрын

    Wd 40 hell

  • @750kv8
    @750kv8 Жыл бұрын

    Man, someone give an award that's meant for some of the stupidest people on Earth, to that individual who dumped WD-40 on this thing, unless a kid did that (because you never know). I just really have this image in my head that he or she had this 'blond woman' kinda moment, if you've ever come accross this video in which said woman just dumps a bottle of new engine oil onto her car's engine (obviously that one was staged and not real); now I swear this unknown previous owner really had just this kinda moment with this thing. The phone RPM app seems to have a small drift, it may not have the most accurate reading. What an ugly nasty job they did on the cover. Great job giving some more life to this old thing. 👍

  • @martinda7446
    @martinda7446 Жыл бұрын

    Try using a counterweight when playing.😸

  • @12voltvids

    @12voltvids

    Жыл бұрын

    Did you watch to the end?

  • @SDsailor7
    @SDsailor7 Жыл бұрын

    The tale of the WD40 mess and missing spindle and counterweight.

  • @12voltvids

    @12voltvids

    Жыл бұрын

    It was baad

  • @SDsailor7

    @SDsailor7

    Жыл бұрын

    @@12voltvids Yes it was! But you brought it back from the dead! That is why it is now called the frankentable haha👍

  • @martinda7446
    @martinda7446 Жыл бұрын

    That is no way WD-40.

  • @bugsyjonesband
    @bugsyjonesband2 жыл бұрын

    Steuerpimpels!

  • @12voltvids

    @12voltvids

    2 жыл бұрын

    Does this model use them? I didn't notice. But then again i didn't notice the missing counterweight till i went to set the arm weight. I was too busy looking at that bloody mess in the mechanism.

  • @bugsyjonesband

    @bugsyjonesband

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@12voltvids If so. I think it's under that flat semi oval shaped plate under the arm pivot.

  • @bugsyjonesband

    @bugsyjonesband

    2 жыл бұрын

    I also believe that spindle is incorrect? looks like a Garrard or BSR spindle. I have a 1225 and a 1229 - nothing like that ( both need work )

  • @goodun2974

    @goodun2974

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bugsyjonesband , I watch someone else on KZread replace the "steurpimpel" with a piece of center insulation pulled from a scrap of thin coaxial cable. Dual used several types of little gum rubber or soft plastic pieces on various turntable models, one for the cueing ( on the top side of the turntable) and another underneath for sideways arm travel. I forget which is which; we had some of those yellow gum rubber ones in stock but they dried up and got crumbly. I basically refuse to work on most Dual turntables these days anyway. If it's old enough to have an idler drive then it's definitely going to be a can of worms.

  • @bugsyjonesband

    @bugsyjonesband

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@goodun2974 I used a pencil eraser once. But I bought a dozen of them from somewhere once. It was almost the same price as buying one or two. Still in my queue . A 1225 that also has a rumbling motor bearing and a 1229 that does the little shift while lifting move from the telltale bent stylus.

  • @realist1982
    @realist19826 ай бұрын

    Wenn man keine Ahnung von Dual Plattenspielern hat, sollte man lieber die Finger davon lassen. 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @Shadepariah
    @Shadepariah2 жыл бұрын

    7:30 ewwwwwwwwww

  • @TimmyAndTammyScumbag
    @TimmyAndTammyScumbag Жыл бұрын

    The honest truth: Though there is clearly some valuable information here in terms of fixing this Dual, our not so humble host ("my pitch it's just about perfect. I dialed that in by ear;" 🙄) seems rather obsessed with the inappropriate use of WD-40 and the person who did it. And, y'know, the unsaid but clearly implied notion that he's oh so superior. All the bitching and complaining makes me cringe and just want to find a video that shows someone fixing such a unit without whining so much. Jesus, next we'll probably be subjected to your political opinions. Yes, we all know that trying to lubricate something with WD-40 is a rookie mistake (yawn, one of the first things you learn) so it's like dude is seizing the opportunity to go nuts by complaining about it over and over simply because it's obvious someone used it while previously servicing the unit. We don't care. Less crabby whining, more education. Yeesh.

  • @vascooliveira6107
    @vascooliveira61072 жыл бұрын

    Hi. Too busy lately. I still didn’t watch this video. I will tonight. Forgot to let you know about my JMJ LPs that i will have the pleasure to offer to you. I will not give my email here as i don't want it corrupted with religious spamners or other stupid things. I'm in messenger from facebook. Or let me know how you would like to exchange of address.

  • @12voltvids

    @12voltvids

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can get my email from the home page about tab. I am not on Facebook messenger or other social networks.

  • @vascooliveira6107

    @vascooliveira6107

    Жыл бұрын

    @@12voltvids i've checked your home page and the only email that i've found was on your paypal link. Is that one ?

  • @12voltvids

    @12voltvids

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vascooliveira6107 That will work

  • @vascooliveira6107

    @vascooliveira6107

    Жыл бұрын

    I think i've found your mail after some attemps ! I couldn't see it using my smartphone so i've tried on my PC and it was there.

  • @SDsailor7

    @SDsailor7

    Жыл бұрын

    @@12voltvids was that rpm and wow and flutter on your phone free or did you have to pay for it? It comes in handy!

  • @ingenfestbrems
    @ingenfestbrems2 жыл бұрын

    Mr carlsons lab. Channel recommend wd40

  • @12voltvids

    @12voltvids

    2 жыл бұрын

    Use it to unstick a stuck platter in order to get the platter off and then clean that crap out and replace it with proper lubricant

  • @whofarted9376
    @whofarted93764 ай бұрын

    Put that thing in the dishwasher

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