I'm a new rider and I don't even have my licence yet so I can't comment about the DRZ400S on the road. Where I live in Spain there are a million tracks all connected by sandy/hard pack dirt/gravel roads that the farmers use to get to their olive/almond trees and vineyards. I had zero experience on motorbikes before, and I mean zero. When the bike arrived (i'm the sixth owner) it looked huge and very intimidating. 26,000km on the clock. It starts first time, every time. It's from 2005 and is a little rough around the edges as you can imagine, many a scratch and dent but the bike doesn't seem to notice. It has a long history of oil changes and has never failed an MOT, the only problem it has on record was the rear tire was a bit bald in 2010, haha. Like I say, I don't have any experience on any other bike, but it hasn't proved necessary. To start with, the torque in first gear was a little scary, it felt like the bike wanted to rip itself out of my hands and go on an adventure on its own, but that was only because of my virgin nerves. Now I'm used to it, she's a sweetheart who has predictable power and is a LOT of fun. Twisting the throttle on a dirt track, even going up a steep gradient, she flies up it with no complaint. I'm terrible at switching gear, so a few times I've done hill climbs in second but the bike doesn't seem to care. The suspension hasn't bottomed out on me despite my terrible line choices. The carb that everyone warned me about hasn't been an issue, I just pull it out to start, push it in one to idle while it warms up, then fully in and off I go. The intimidation factor has disappeared gradually as I've become accustomed to it. The bike even looks smaller! In the end, I'm glad I chose the DRZ over the CRF300L. I made my choice because I wanted a bike I could grow into, rather than out of and during hours of research, the consensus seems to be that the CRF300L feels somewhat gutless. Again, I've never ridden one, so I can't confirm that, but I can certainly confirm the DRZ has guts and some to spare. Happy riding bros.

@Chrissurfs

Ай бұрын

Exactly my point. And we both live in Spain. The bad vibe with the DRZ carb is not the carb itself, its the cable that runs out of it and the gas return system. Both of which can be cancelled if it becomes a problem. Theres also aftermarket carbs that will improve the DRZ greatly. I have exactly the same DRZ, an S. (on my channel) I got an S because they are less beaten up and has subframe to add a suitcase. Un salu2. 🙂

The reason people have the millage on CRFs because those 250 engines ad super under stressed. One reason the DRZ "seems" less reliable is because people keep messing with them. Outside of suspension mods no one does much modding on the CRF 250L. Most users start modding their DRZ the week they buy it then hit the forums when they mess it up. Just my opinion.

Great review

I believe that the DR-Z400E would have been a killer bike if it had come with a 6th gear or wider 5 gearbox. I know that some have changed the standard gearing on their "E" to S/SM setup to make it more usable on the road.

For me ( experienced senior rider) the two limitations of the DRZ400E (registered in OZ) are 1) The gear ratios are too close for ADV riding ( you need to alter the sprockets to get a good touring speed of 60-70 mph) 2) The seat height is too high. Both issues are fixable by modification. You an fit a wide ratio gear set ( Nova or ACT) to get a usable first gear for slow stuff and a easy 70 mph for touring on street. The motor will pull the bigger gaps. You can lower the suspension internally to drop the seat height wile at the same time getting spring weight and valving to suit your riding style. I prefer stiffer suspension to cope with luggage weight and hitting sharp edge ruts/roots at speed. Doing these modifications would add about $2000 US to the retail price of the DRZ. If I was a beginner the Honda would be my choice.

@dk.650

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly the same issues.

I have owned both bikes and I am liking the CRF300L Rally best. But I am a very mild rider at age 70. I think if you are a aggressive experienced rider you would probable want the DRZ400 E or S depending on what country you live in. E's are sold in Australia but not in the US. IMO the CRF300l Or rally would be the better bike for beginners.

32xx miles on my 2021 CRF300L in just over three months. Zero issues as a micro-ADV and comfortable all day at 65mph if you need to bang out miles. Light-ish off road. I keep looking at the Husqvarna 701/KTM 690 but I just don’t need it.

I decided the best bike for me is the XR400R. It's not street legal, but it has more power and is lighter, and cheaper. I am currently outfitting my newly acquired 1996 for riding in the coming spring.

13-50 final gearing on a drz seems extremely low considering stock drz400s gearing is 15-44 and 14-47 for the drz400e. For the riding we do in the Utah mountains, deserts, and Moab, I prefer 15-44. My brother prefers 14-44. Love your videos.

@captainamerica9353

Жыл бұрын

I think 13 / 50 gearing is ridiculous on any dual purpose bike. I can see it on an MX or Enduro racer, maybe.

I decide to go for the wr250r myself however if I only had a choice of the DRZ the CRF and the KLX I would take the KLX because the crf-300 L has a one piece subframe and a mild steel frame. If you wrecked the subframe you totaled the bike out and on my 250l I had frame damage from a low speed crash in my foot Peg area.

DRZ for harder more challenging terrain, more off road or fully off road. It has a better frame, suspension, brakes and of course engine. The CRF is for older or less skilled riders wanting to ride mainly just dirt roads with a lot of on road commuting. The 400e which you can still buy new in Australia is the pick of the bunch.

Very informative and useful video! Thanks man! You got a sub out of me. Definitely make more videos like this!

I´m in the same question... DRZ 400S vs KLX300. I ride 50% on roads going at 60/65mph, 50% gravel. 300-400km per riding day. Some times in altitude (3000-4000 meters). Any suggestion?

Stock gearing seem fine for my sm do a lot of trail riding too. Wish the Honda was under 250lbs

@JohnnyBoy919

2 жыл бұрын

No dual sport is going to be under 250 pounds, european bikes are the lightest and even those ready to ride with fluids I don't think are less than 250 pounds.

I love my 300 Rally

Tried them both, opted for the 20 yr old one. And if you go for the 300, in a couple of months you are going to wish you hadnt. Its under powered on purpose for leaners permits and all the other updates unless you are a pro you will not bother much about. Theres enough drz for a while, whereas the 300 will grow slow soon. For the trail, a 30 yr old XR you can fix with a hammer and some wire. If the kick starts not your thing, drz all the way.

Still waiting for a better option. My xl600r will do for now.....

Can't imagine gearing the Honda CRF 300L any lower. I use mainly 2nd gear off-road and I rarely use first gear. Honda CRF300L gearbox is pretty squared away.

Low key I thought this was Joe Rogan 😂 but great video man been looking at these two thanks for the info

I was torn between the DRZ 400 and the CRF 300L. Trying to figure out which one to buy. I am not going to be doing any extreme enduro. I am also average height at 5'9". I have rode a friends DRZ 400, another friends klx 250. So I went to a dealership that had all bike in stock. I sat on the DRZ400, the KLX300, the CRF300L, and a couple of different huskies. And the CRF300L just felt like it fit like a glove. Long story short I ordered a CRF300L and I am current just waiting for the dealership to get it in.

@jpdaddy678

Жыл бұрын

Lucky you! That's a good dealership!

@daveh4700

11 ай бұрын

How you like your bike nowadays?

@leesilas

11 ай бұрын

@@daveh4700 I absolutely love my CRF300L. I've had it now for a little over a year. And the bike has plenty of torque and for my style of riding and the areas that I'm riding in the mountains and in Florida it is absolutely a great bike for me. I love the torque that has. I can be in 3rd cruising and it still pulls without stalling. It feels kind of like the torque of a four-wheeler. The only thing that I know I'm going to change soon are the tires. Up in the mountains the tire slip and down here in the sand the stock tires are not good, you're all over the place. Plus comparing it to a CRF250L which my buddy just bought a 2019 one that was like brand new. This 300L has so much more torque and power. The only thing I've done to the bike is change the seat to seat concepts, and put Bark Busters on it. My buddy liked mine so much he ordered him a 300L and truly enjoys his as well. He says the same things that I say about it. We love the torque.

I had ktm 350 exc-f and traded it for 690 enduro r last year, this year I picked up a ktm 300 xc-w, for trail riding, happy trails😎

@forestmotoadventures

2 жыл бұрын

I like to leave from home and need CA hwy speeds. Looking at the 701 Enduro LR. How do you like your 690 r so far? I need to pick either of these up in prep. for a mojave desert tour.

@machupikachu1085

10 ай бұрын

well...that was a weird flex.

Had a DRZ for several years. It needed a 6th gear, was heavy, but had a great engine. Replaced it with a KTM 450.

I have a green drz and absolutely beat the wheels off of it. Has 27000 miles no issues at all but im always looking for that 6th gear

Just my opinion, love my DRZ400. Got 50,000 miles on it before running out of valve adjustments on one intake valve. 2011 drz400s. Have ridden 80 mph all day long riding from Salt Lake City, UT to Everett, WA. Literally other than maintenance, I had no issues. Many BDR rides. Just need head rebuilt and should get another 50,000 miles.

@omgji764

2 жыл бұрын

Hey! Which sunstars on your drz 400s, 15-44 or not? I have 15-41 on my SM, but want to buy 16 for front, because scared that speed 77-80 mph is too much for him, for long travels. But maybe i shouldn't buy it, if you ride with that speed on your bike...

@drzrider3440

2 жыл бұрын

@@omgji764 if i am doing a long pavement ride, I run 15/41 on my S. SM its would raise RPM due to smaller wheels. But I would say do not install a 16T front sprocket....yes, it will go on. But puts your chain scary close to your engine. Any slight chain slop will hit your engine right in front of the sprocket. I ignored all the people telling me this..i installed it on mine.....yep 1st day out it hit my engine. Started wearing a grove. Much more and it would have gone through the case and destroyed engine....dont do it. You can out a 39T on the back but well need to remove chain guide on bottom. When I do mostly dirt ride like the Idaho BDR. I run 14/44. Which I still can ride 70mph. Bit buzzy nut road from Nevada back to the top of Idaho where I left my car. You can go to Gearcommander.com and use their tool. Out in your bike, and it will give you stock gearing with speed and rpm in each gear. Change things up and it will give you speeds and rpm for what ever sprocket you choose. Thus making it easy to pick the right sprockets knowing they are what you want even before installing them. Its a great tool.

@DaBinChe

2 жыл бұрын

That's it? My Honda Elite110 scooter had almost 80k miles on it when I sold it to a friend a couple years ago. Still runs strong today. That scooter been ridden up from CA to Alaska down to KeyWest back to CA in one trip. Another trip when from CA to NY and back. I ran that thing WOT bouncing off the rev limiter everywhere and it was my daily commuter. Ran it WOT on the interstate from Miami up I95>I10>I20>I40 back into CA before I got off the interstate.

@omgji764

2 жыл бұрын

@@drzrider3440 Oh, thank you! I didn't know that 16T sprocket can be so dangerous for byke. Can you tell pls, which rpm is normal for drz for long distance?

@drzrider3440

2 жыл бұрын

@@omgji764 yeah, as long as you arent hitting right up against the Rev limiter, you are fine. The engine is designed to run up to 10,000rpm. The SM engine which is the same, has a rev limiter set at 10,500 rpm. So you can't really hurt the engine since it will cut the engine at 10,000 or 10,500 which every bike you have. I run around 7500 rpm at 80mph. When I rode home from Salt Lake City. I use a trail tech Vapor computer which gives me RPM, Speedo, water temp and outside temp, over heat light and shift lights. Also has odometer and trip, clock and timer. Well worth the $110 it cost me. It really comes down to what kind of vibration you can deal with. For me, 7500 rpm it seemed to kind of smooth out. Get above 8000 rpm and it starts to get higher vibration in handle bars. But still not hurting engine. When you do dyno runs they bring it up to rev limiter on every gear....doesnt hurt it. Main thing just be religious about changing oil. As long as you do regular maintenance, the DRZ will last forever. I got 50,000 miles before I needed to rebuild the head. Chanded my oil rather often. Some say too often. But its cheap and easy so i changed my oil in average between 1000 mile to 1500 miles unless I was on one of my 2000+ mile rides.

I have a 2005 drz400s it's in excellent condition but my only complaint is that it needs a sixth gear

The ECU from my Rally has been sent to 550 performance. Both the Rally and 300L have been shaved by 11 pounds and I plan to do some rolling side by sides with the tuned Rally versus the stock L. Weight is going to be negated as my son is 20 pounds heavier than I am and he will be on the 300L. Very curious to see how much difference the 550 tune makes.

@motoendurocalaveras429

2 жыл бұрын

11 pounds Is a Lot to be Taken😈

@andrewo5138

2 жыл бұрын

How much differen did 550 perf ecu make?

I'm no crf300l hater, as a matter of fact I suggested one to a buddy and he bought one...but as a long time owner of a drz...there is an aspect of the drz so many overlook. The aftermarket....if you take a drz, put it on weight reduction plan, throw some engine goodies on it....the drz shreds the crf. That being said, I still want a 300 rally for a quiet mini adventure steed for those weekend camping trips

@JohnnyBoy919

2 жыл бұрын

The crf300l just came out but I can guarantee that it will have as much aftermarket support as the drz if not more. Look at the crf250l, it had tons of aftermarket support. Weight reduction can be applied to any bike out there. The drz is tried and true, but it's almost 2022. Bike is being sold for a lot of money with old technology, just get bold new graphics.

@thatoneguy2756

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyBoy919 yep, I agree. Should be an awesome start to a great woods bike. Only thumbs down i give is welded on subframe. I definitely wouldn't pay new retail for a drz,then build it. Oof, mineswell just get a 450rl at that point

@JohnnyBoy919

2 жыл бұрын

@@thatoneguy2756 once I heard honda came out with a crf450l/rl I was so excited. Then once I saw the maintainence intervals it threw me off. As a wr250r owner, it's hard to find anything other than the European bikes as an upgrade. The wr250r with more power (and preferably slightly lower seat height) would be the unicorn bike. I am 5'7" 140 pounds and I have a seat concepts low seat and I can tippy toe. From what I've seen the crf450l runs like shit with all the restrictive epa requirements unless you dump more money into ecu/exhaust. But ive heard by raising the idle and putting more miles on the bike fixes it. A modern like drz400 or xr400r would be great.

@jpdaddy678

Жыл бұрын

I'm looking for a bike I don't have to modify after I bought it

@thatoneguy2756

Жыл бұрын

@@jpdaddy678 never seen one of those ....

Nobody asked for this video, but everybody needed it🙏

Suzuki DR650 is way fun to ride and the torque roll on will idle around a '300L' - it will idle at 70mph and only 50 or so pounds heavier with 350cc.

@ronsexton3685

Жыл бұрын

I think a CRF 300 Rally is 330+ pounds.

I'm not sure I understand the point of comparing these two bikes in this way. I've a couple DRZs. And my brother currently owns a CRF300L. Off the showroom floor, their capabilities are nearly identical. The CRF is just lacking some of the power of the DRZ. The tighter gear box helps the CRFs feel a little snappier. The biggest difference in these two bikes, is seat height. If you're a newer or shorter rider, the CRF is probably a better choice for you. But if you're an experienced or taller rider, the DRZ is a much better machine in almost every way. And it take a lot more than a couple of high mileage examples, to make up for the highly successful, twenty year fun of the DRZ400.

@jimbo4203

2 жыл бұрын

Also if you're a big guy get the 400 ! No replacement for displacement

@FlameHazeist

2 жыл бұрын

The DRZ has way better suspension, esp. the 2017+ models that are already well valved for woods riding and only need the proper springs for your weight. 10 less hp and 9 less lb-ft is not just "lacking some of the power of the DRZ'. It's a major difference that makes it unsuitable for anything other than tight woods riding unless you like riding slow or with the engine screaming everywhere.

@PetterIvarsson

9 ай бұрын

That was a good point I am 190 cm long (6.3?) with long legs and feel many bikes to small. Think I should try a 400.

@markydayan

26 күн бұрын

I´m on a doubt between klx 300 and the drz400s. I know the klx has better suspensions than the CRF300. I ride 50/50 road and gravel, Some days 300km on roads, others 250 gravel, some sand, etc etc. My doubt is that some times I ride in altitude (3000/4500 meters. 9000 to 15000fts. I don´t know the response of the bike there. I rode 60.000 km on a honda xre 300 (similiar to crf300L) Any suggestions?

Still hearing issues with 300l 9000ft and higher13000.

simple for me , DRZ has way better after market selections and parts , way cheaper, more power :). if I plan to do more road, trow 41 T sprocket , 50/50 , 44T , tech dirt , 47T.

So I think you're conflating longevity with reliability. Because of the nature of the carbureted DRZ400, I would call it more reliable even if it's not as long lived. The DRZ is way less likely to leave you stranded on the trail.

@Adrian-yn4qg

2 жыл бұрын

Or in the bush.

@mt1885

2 жыл бұрын

The Honda is like so over-rated it is only 280cc and NON adjustable rubber band suspension and cast iron cylinder

I went the the Drz400. Shitload of parts and accessories plus been around for over 20yrs. No bikes perfect because we are all individually different. My advice is to ride before you buy and go from there. Cheers.

I disagree that a DRZ 400 can be had for 1/2 the price of a 300L. I just sold a 06 E in great shape for $4500.

I love my CRF 300l. Like any bike have to mod it when you have the funds to make it exactly or close to what you need. Nice content, keep it up.

@weedian710

2 жыл бұрын

Does it actually go 80 mph?

I think you are spot on with the DRZ400. I have a DRZ400S and I find it dangerously top heavy. This top heaviness cannot be fixed, I've tried. The engine sits too high in the frame. Suzuki needs to completely redesign the ergonomics with a modern design. If you ever experience a front wheel washout on the DRZ, because of the top heaviness, it will slam you to the ground hard and fast. Until Suzuki fixes the ergonomics and top heaviness, I would avoid the DRZ400S and E.

@lcjjr.6714

2 ай бұрын

You need to adjust the suspension!!! The bike is not top heavy and handles fine for more experienced riders. If it’s that bad buy a lowering link to lower your seat height!!!

@crypticreality8484

13 күн бұрын

Fuck no. You need to learn how to ride

So many choices but yet not enough 😂 l want to ride the 450L before I make any decisions on replacing my 400e

@verlinswarey507

2 жыл бұрын

That is perfectly said!

The DRZ400SM has different ergonomics and would be a better comparison.

My wife has the CRF300 and I have a DRZ400 (and a KTM 350). The CRF 300 is a nice bike for a girl or a young entry level rider. It is not, however, even close to a DRZ400 in off road performance. Reliability and maintenance for both bikes is the same. The CRF300 has soft power and suspension that girls and new riders will feel comfortable with. If you have ever ridden a motorcycle, like to ride fast, climb challenging hills or tackle tough terrain, go with the DRZ400. If you have a lot of money (twice as much as the CRF or DRZ), don't mind doing lots of maintenance, carrying spare parts on your rides, go with a KTM 350 EXC-F.

@JohnnyBoy919

2 жыл бұрын

I think the main benefit to the drz is more power. The suspension on the crf isn't as good but it can be upgraded. Once that's done the crf can do anything the drz can do. Crf300 is lighter, fuel injected and has 6 gears. Lower seat height is nice for shorter people as well.

@Largetalons

2 жыл бұрын

Drz has about 5 extra horsepower provided the temps and altitude stay the same since it won't adjust for air density like an efi bike. Both are pretty slow though. Drz feels like it wants to explode on the highway.

@machupikachu1085

10 ай бұрын

@@Largetalons 5hp difference? That's demonstrably false. The Dr.Z has 50% more hp and tq with like a 10lb weight penalty (or a 10lb advantage over the 300 rally) FAR better suspension, and is actually built in Japan. I don't care how much power you think you'd lose because of 'altitude'. It ain't 50%.

imo the crf300 just feels way better than the drz400 on the more rugged tighter trails. The overall comfort is better on the crf300 as well. I am not sure how people are saying the drz400 and crf300 is about the same. no way it is. they are vastly different and although the drz400 is awesome like we all know, but the crf300L is just way better. Im starting to think most of these drz400 riders never actually ridden the crf300L

@bmotomo421

2 жыл бұрын

I've ridden both bikes. Performance wise, I cant think of one thing the CRF300L does better than the DRZ400S. It doesn't have as much power. And because the suspension is absolute junk, front and rear it doesn't handle very well. The CRF is a nice beginners/play bike. But not in the same level as the DRZ. And most experienced riders will agree.

@JohnnyBoy919

2 жыл бұрын

@@bmotomo421 Only benefit to drz is better suspension (which can be upgraded) and more power. For shorter or lighter riders, the crf is the better bike. More modern with 6 gears and fuel injection.

@spikespiker731

2 жыл бұрын

Well said, the drz is a old relic, great back in the day but way outdated now. Most guys only remember the drz and have no idea how much better the bikes have gotten, EFI is light years better than a carburetor... If you don't agree with that then you yourself is outdated hahah

@bmotomo421

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyBoy919 Then we agree... The CRF is a better bike for beginner/ inexperienced riders. And because the DRZ has much better suspension and quite a bit more power. It has more of what a more experienced rider is looking for.

@bmotomo421

2 жыл бұрын

@@spikespiker731 Go ahead.. keep telling yourself that.

I forget, do you have your crf yet?

@JohnnyBoy919

2 жыл бұрын

I'm curious as well, if he hasn't gotten it yet I'm surprised. Waiting for a first ride review

My choice is a KTM 350

WR STILL 👑

@motoman7445

2 жыл бұрын

Yep.

@FlameHazeist

2 жыл бұрын

King of low hp and torque?

@chadjohnson7712

2 жыл бұрын

@@FlameHazeist And I ask low hp and tourq compared to what?

@FlameHazeist

2 жыл бұрын

​@@chadjohnson7712 DRZ400, THE 👑of *low maintenance* HP and Torque.

@chadjohnson7712

2 жыл бұрын

@@FlameHazeist Drz is a good bike but it needs a update and a extra gear also needs to lose some weight and lose the carb.

Cant beat a modern bike , Drz it’s a great bike owned one but it’s outdated zzz

I definitely would choose the crf because of seat height and fuel injection.

E is way different gearing than the S.

Which one one should get? Its very easy, in the developed part of the world one of those bikes are not available because it doesnt pass emission standards. Guess which one….?

I wish I could find a crf..I've never seen one in real life

@RWWRENTAL

Жыл бұрын

ive seen a lot of them in Colorado and rode them a lot. they are fun super smooth bikes. they dont feel that heavy on like tight single tracks. The drz400 is more of an aggressive bike, think the drz400 has way more fun factor because of the torque. honestly both hard choice on which one to pick they both have pros and cons but both are amazing bikes.

It's amazing that the old Suzuki DR350 had a 6 speed gearbox and then the newer bikes have 5 speed gearboxes. WTH Suzuki!

@machupikachu1085

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's lame. Most of the Honda's back in the 80's had six speed boxes. My dad had a bike with a 10 speed transmission. Accountants ruin it for basically everyone.

398cc vs 286cc ? Ofcourse power is noticeably different 🤔

@RWWRENTAL

Жыл бұрын

You can only utilize so much power in tight single track. My riding is more emphasis in tighter single track. Drz400 all day in wide open roads, but even with power on the drz400 you are still limited to speed per sprocket size and that last gear ratio. if I gear my DRZ400 at 13/48 the drz400 is screaming at 65mph, while the crf300 is cruising at 70mph with same sprocket size, that is what I am trying to explain...but people dont see the full video

Drz 400 sm.

Bro what is the narrator smoking? The DR-Z will cruise 70 all day

@RWWRENTAL

13 күн бұрын

im not talking about the streets and i mentioned that in the video....

300L weight is 310+lbs - DR650 is 350lbs and double displacement and will 'run circles' around this 286cc toy engine.

@JohnnyBoy919

2 жыл бұрын

Crf300l non abs 309 pounds. Dr650s 366 pounds that's a big difference. I'd take the lighter weight and seat height with fuel injection and 6 gears over the oudated dr650.

@mt1885

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyBoy919 CAST Iron cylinder on the Honda is from the 1970s and it is 286cc so not even a 300. For riding in a field but not on the road no power.

@JohnnyBoy919

2 жыл бұрын

@@mt1885 the engine in the 300l is the same as the 250 and it has been known to go for over 100,000 miles. If you're just after power, sure the dr650 is the way to go. If you're looking the best DUAL sport ie on and off road, the crf300l is the better bike.

@JohnnyBoy919

2 жыл бұрын

@@mt1885 MSRP for the dr650s is 6849, no way I'd pay that for a bike that hasn't been changed in how long? 5250 for the honda with modern fuel injection, better dash and 6 gears.

@mt1885

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyBoy919 A toy of 286cc cast iron cylinder lawn mower engine.

i've seen other videos of crf250ls failing in one day of trying to follow a drz400 offroad, so i reject your premise of the crf being more reliable it simply cannot do the same job as a 400e. 13/50 is ridiculously too low geared for a drz, i've ran 14/50 in hill climbs with large technical rock steps and found it too low to be useful and worse than 14/47 e gearing offroad. the 400e has twice the power of a crf it doesn't need to split it's ratios into 6 to avoid bogging, and with 15/44 s gearing it's cruising at the same revs on the highway as the crf300 but still has ample power for headwinds or overtaking and will reach it's max speed of 100mph quickly. ergonomics is something you change to suit yourself and to a degree so is handling you can make the drz turn much quicker by lifting the forks in the triples and running the rear axle as far forward as possible for a shorter wheelbase. the drz has far better suspension, compression and rebound dampening as well as high and low speed dampening on the shock the crf has zero adjustment it's cheap and nasty and isn't suitable for anything fast or particularly rough. overall build quality on the suzuki is much better, better quality controls, cables,frame pretty much name it and the suzuki is built better hence why the 400 is lighter than the 300l

The Honda is Only 3kg lighter than the Suzuki. The Suzuki Is More reliable less Maintenance means less $$'s. The Suzuki has Higher speed than stock Honda. Match your suspension for your weight then re test ride Suzie.

@Jims003

Жыл бұрын

wow!! I rarely seen so mcuh false information in a 2 lines phrase!!

@lumberjaxe8910

Жыл бұрын

@@Jims003 didums go play > she shook me all night long.

@Jims003

Жыл бұрын

@@lumberjaxe8910 she probably shook it in your dreams, also false information 😅

@lumberjaxe8910

Жыл бұрын

@@Jims003 Get off the Hard stuff Son.

@Jims003

Жыл бұрын

@@lumberjaxe8910 ah!! Some good advice, like false information

Drz is a pig on single track trails. Very top heavy.

@94SexyStang

2 жыл бұрын

it's not the best for tight trails, it just has TOO much grunt, and can't throw it around super tight turns, it needs a little bit of room to breathe.

This Honda 300L has a *CAST IRON CYLINDER* like from the 1970s

@Jims003

Жыл бұрын

And ??

@michaellauer3397

Жыл бұрын

Uh… so…?

@Icutmetal

Жыл бұрын

And?

You cannot, i repeat, You cannot perform all day Enduro in a 400E. Fuel consumption makes it impossible. You Will find yourself on the mountains and on tracks very stressed about Fuel. Even if you install a bigger tank. 250 Engines are better to ride when ir comes to a 16 hours enduro

@FlameHazeist

2 жыл бұрын

Who on earth rides 16 hours in a day? I'm lucky if I can last for more than 3 hours in tight woods 🤣.

@motoendurocalaveras429

2 жыл бұрын

@@FlameHazeist our mountain enduros normally begin at 8:00 AM and last to 5:00 PM. At least the diffcult ones no Summers. But when heavy rains come, tracks on the mountains are full of landsslides AND the clay doesn't allow you to Advance at a good pace on your motorcycle. the hours pass and pass and since your stuck on track you dont notice it. Greetings