Ed Shaughnessy was pretty phenominal too!

Well I say he is the GOAT. I actually watch this drum off on tv in my parents living room.

There's effortless speed and precision in his drumming like he was born with two sticks in his hands. Clean hits, smooth, beautiful dynamics, musical interpretation, and a certain joy in his playing. Never does he ever get cramped up at mega-high speed and his movement around the kit is also lightning fast. Buddy was a drumming athlete with no comparison. Gifted and did he ever perform and give people their money's worth. What an entertainer. I understand he was quite the perfectionist, part of what made him great.

He's doing this with 1970's era equipment. No double or triple bass drum pedals, or even high tech lightning fast single pedals. It would be interesting to see how some of these amazing drummers of today would do on old equipment.

Nobody could play or lead a band like Buddy . I would love to see any modern drummer transcribe this or any other performances and play it note for note .

The quick grabbing of the cymbals comes from the great Buddy Rich, and Neil Peart was a huge fan of Buddy's. You can see Buddy's influence here, and Neil even participated in several Buddy Rich tribute albums. What an amazing performance!

I've been a Buddy Rich fan for 60 years. He is still a timeless all time great. I need to hear El Estepario Siberiano play with a big band to get a real sense of his musically brilliance.

@jeannegoodnight8619

5 ай бұрын

Good suggestion! I wonder if he reads, bcuz Shaughnessy and Rich both did. You need to in order to catch all the horn accents and kicks.

@burning4buddy639

10 күн бұрын

Don't you think that El Estepario Siberiano would like to listen to the amazing Carter Beauford? Especially as Carter is just like El SS in that he too is ambidextrous in his drumming. Carter doesn't care which hand it is. They are amazingly equal.

He may not be your favorite drummer but he very well could be your favorite drummer's favorite.

Ed Shaughnessy from Johnny Carson show

@TheUprightLuthier-1959

3 ай бұрын

ES (Ed Shaughnessy) was the drummer in the first clip, the drum-off was on the Tonight Show.

he played at my high school around 1975. he had a broken arm and still killed it with one arm. lol when I listen to El Esteperio doing his one handed stuff it reminds me of that.

i thik that the shoot out showed the fastest two left hands in all of drummer world.....ever

When you talk about Buddy Rich, you really can't just discuss him in the arena of 'greatest drummers ever.' More accurately, he is in the discussion of greatest musicians ever!

Buddy = GOAT. Without dispute.

I saw this live....they had at least 5 Battle offs that I saw, Ed Shaugnessey amazing drummer, the Tonight Show drummer at the time for Johnny Carson....maybe more battles possibly.... This is the type stuff that inspired me to play years ago... Gene, Buddy, Louie, Chick, Roy, Tony, Ian, Ginger, Bonham, Cobham, etc. so, so many greats but Gene Krupa, Buddy Rich, Louie Bellson, Ginger Baker, Ian Paice are my greatest early influences first inspirations...

At 7:25 start of solo Buddy's hi hat on + of every beat.

I never like to say anyone is "THE" greatest of all time, too many variables to account for. But Buddy Rich can be called the Godfather of drums because he influenced so many of the great drummers from the 60's, 70's, 80's and beyond.

@ikshields

3 ай бұрын

C’mon. It’s not even close. For once it’s an easy call, you don’t have to pretend to “play fair”, or try hiding it behind “different genres”. This bastard blew us all off the wagon. That’s all there is to it. We can do all the usual apples and oranges stuff talking about the REST of us, from 2nd place on down. 🤷🏼‍♂️

“Look at his left hand!” I see a blurry appendage….. no hands…..

As you can see, Ed Shaughnessy was no slouch

I saw Buddy perform, up close & personal - THIRTEEN TIMES. As great as these videos are - it was TEN times better in person. The tunes he played prior to his big solo at the end, were like the greatest foreplay before the greatest climax you ever had - the beautiful foreplay made it, as I said TEN times better in person. His lead sax player, Steve (don't remember his last name) was great too & always had a big solo before Buddy would perform his. What made Buddy the best was he made my adrenaline flow & hair stand up on the back of my neck ten times more than any other performer & shouldn't that be the measure of who was the best? And I saw some other great big bands perform - Maynard Ferguson, Duke Ellington Orchestra, Harry James, Weather Report....

The first time I saw Buddy was on Evening with the Pops in 1981. It changed the way I wanted to play ! Check it out.

He demanded perfection from his fellow musicians much the same way Benny Goodman did. In the 80's my wife and me would go to Disneyland just to watch Buddy perform in the Carnation Plaza. No extra fee. What a treat that was.

My fav drummer must be Ian Paice (Deep Purple) To see him in his prime is awesome. And now he is guest drummer for Buddy Rich Band, thats cool.

Phenomenal 🔥🔥🔥🔥goat for all time❤❤❤

My answer to your first question is he is definitely one of the 2 greatest drummers in the history of drumming. At least until lately. Favorite drummers? My favorite drummers are not the greatest drummers in the world. But they kick a** on stage. Jerry Mercer from April Wine. Whoever the original drummer from reo speedwagon was. Artimus Pyle Eric Carr Ian Paice Charlie Watts Chris Layton

Krupa, Rich, Peart. the Holy Trinity of drums in my opinion.

Eddie Shaughnessy was one of Buddy's best friends and they were both great.

Buddy Rich was the "Freak"ing Goat for his time! It's always amazing to watch him play, EES said his new band is a jazz band, so i am excited to hear what they produce, and maybe then you can do a side by side comparison with him and Buddy Rich see whos faster in the jazz style !!!!!!

@ikshields

3 ай бұрын

“For his time”?! Nay, dear. That’s an insult. We have not moved on from this at all. Nobody has even come remotely close to this, and probably never will. There was Buddy, and now it’s over. That shadow ain’t going away.

Oh I was hoping you'd do a reaction to that Tonight Show battle. Utterly insanely good. It was Bonham, then these 2 that showed me you don't need a gigantic kit to play well or have every song covered. So amazingly much you can do with the bare bones setup they have. Who won? The audience, of course!

@ColbyFultonDrums

6 ай бұрын

🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

I am not a dummer and my favorite is probably not the best dummer, but I always enjoy Bill Ward.

The Tonight Show band had the best players at that time for each instrument.

even Neil Pert was hesitant and Nervous to play with the Buddy Rich Band, but he smashed it!! Watch the video!!

Buddy = pure genius...

commentator is being nice- buddy is beyond-some drummers will dispute but no one wants to admit that someone reached a level that is close to impossible to match

Thanks for your view :D I think you can say that Buddy in many ways set the standard for big band jazz. But he had it from i.a. Joe Jones, Chick Webb and Sonny Payne. Buddy had a formidable technique and he came out of a vaudeville tradition where he was on stage from the age of two. When be-bop came in the late 1940s onwards, Buddy tried to adapt to the new style - exposed by e.g. Max Roach, Roy Haynes, Art Blakey - and later Philly Joe Jones, Elvin Jones, Tony Williams, Jack DeJohnette, Marcus Gilmore etc... Buddy kept his own style - and he was unique.

Well done

My favs are Gene Krupa, Art Blakey and Elvin Jones

And Buddy Rich isn't my favorite, but he's in my top 5. I'm a metalhead, so not saying these guys are better, just were the first and constant inspirations: Gene Hoglan, Hellhammer, Bonzo.

At one point these guys looked like they was throwing nunchuck 😂

yeah...... Buddy is the shit...... that other dude goin toe to toe..... he was ALSO VERY GOOD!!! like.... at that level its just a matter of taste over talent!! same for guitar players..... taste over talent cuz ALL their talents are SO AMAZINGLY RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!! Buddy is still in the top 3-5 GOATS on drums........ and yes i know and have seen that newly emerged Estepario Seberiano..... he is also TOTALLY AMAZING..... but he is standing on the shoulders of Buddy Rich and the like......... IMHO... ✌😎

I thought this was going to be boring but I was pleasantly surprised.😂

@ikshields

3 ай бұрын

Why on Earth did you expect something “boring”?

Gene Krupa is another great ❤

That was fun. 😮

Vinnie Colaiuta is my fav

Buddy was the best of his time !

@ikshields

3 ай бұрын

“Of his time”?! Well, yes, if you mean the Age of Humans on Earth.

No true winner. Both Ed and Buddy were amazing!

BEST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I suggest Mel Taylor of The Ventures 😊😎

@ColbyFultonDrums

6 ай бұрын

🤘🏻👍🏻👍🏻🐐🐐

Listen how tighter Buddy’s snare is, compared to Ed’s . Buddy will always be the greatest..

That band is his, if they mess up he will get onto on to them hard. They said he was a hard man to work for.

Who's the other guy?! 🥁🪘🥁

@joeblack333

6 ай бұрын

Ed Shaughnessy, the Tonight Show house band drummer. So talented but so overlooked. Definitely held his own with Buddy, I think.

@appropriateinput

6 ай бұрын

@@joeblack333 YEAH. It's like those guys drum in their sleep. It's amazing.

I’m a Buddy Rich fan but my father preferred Gene Krupa.

whose the other guy

I think Ed Shaughnessy was every bit as good as Buddy.

Who would not be the goat Jay way too many other guys that you have not even thought about yet not to say that he’s bad or anything he would be up there but not the goat

Buddy is the greatest of all time. (I refuse to use GOAT) Hands down.

NEIL PEART'S IDOL.

Upload your own stuff please.

Such basic drum kits

I was on BR's staff as rehearsal drummer and roadie from spring 76- fall 77 after which he got me the gig with Mel Torme...as great as this is, it's pale by comparison to some of the things I witnessed during the band known as the Killer Force...those of us who knew him were forever changed. He taught me, treated me like a son...he was extraordinary.