The Caprice is essentially a higher spec Statesman with more standard features such as leather seats and the LS1 came standard. Many standard features on Caprices were optional on Statesman. The optional extras on Caprices that you stated I believe weren’t available on Statesman There was a Senator for the Vy generation Commodore. The Senator is HSV version of the Calais and the Grange is the HSV version of Statesman/Caprice. Prime Minister did used both LTD and Caprices throughout history but in recent times they always used Caprices before they ceased production and currently use 7 Series. Fairlane Ghia was the rival to the Statesman and LTD was the rival to the Caprice. I personally prefer the Ba/Bf Fairlane/LTD to the Wk/Wl Statesman/Caprice but both are awesome cars and the Wk/Wl Grange are imo the most underrated and best looking HSV’s next to the Manta Hopefully a few will find these facts interesting and I apologise if any of these are incorrect but I believe they should be right

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

appreciate all that mate! Got some great knowledge

@PANN1Cau

Жыл бұрын

Gonna have to disagree and say a S3 VS grange is the best of the best with a 185i roller, with the WK/WL close in second. The WL grange with the ls2 would be my pick if I couldn’t get the VS.

@Jason9110110

Жыл бұрын

Pretty much summed up everything I was going to say. My brother has a pretty sad one at the moment in QLD with over 300,000 k’s

Statesman is the Belmont, Caprice is the Kingswood, Grange is the Premier of this range

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

🙏 appreciate it

@Ben-ed4wx

Жыл бұрын

​@@RossReviewsau the Caprice is the performance luxury, the Stato is the luxury

@knifethrower9733

11 ай бұрын

​@@Ben-ed4wxI have one and I got the same headlights today 😊

@knifethrower9733

11 ай бұрын

Grange is the GTS and Caprice is the Premier!!!!!

@marktiltins8845

11 ай бұрын

@@knifethrower9733 yes you could look at it that way, poor old Belmont gets canned again 😅

Love the old Statesman's and Caprice..best value for money when it comes to owning a fairly modern V8.

I've always preferred this body shape of Statesman/Caprice over the WH body shape... These cars will just chew up kilometres reliably... Great video 👍

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

Right on glad you enjoyed it mate

I have 05 WL statesman, main things I see different is: steering wheel, mirror, headrest tv, roof controls and the major one is the rear seats. The rear seats hug you where my statesman is just a regular back seat

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

So just a little less luxurious in the stato eh

Ross the Boss crew checking in. This one’s a banger

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate you brother

Great review of the Statesman Caprice, Ross. I like the sound of the V8, can’t beat that sound. Very clean car. It’s once again a credit to the owner to keep it this tidy and original. Well done. Keep it up.

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter! Glad you enjoyed it

Great review! Keep the content coming! This will be a long comment as I try to explain the differences and similarities of the Statesman and Caprice. I worked at Holden for a few years and owned a few statesman's and Caprices. Similarities, both had either the 3.8 litre engines or the 5.7 LS1 V8. Both had the 4L60e Auto, both had 3 window multi-funtion trip computers, both had electric tilt and height adjustable front seats, both had adjustable front seat belt heights and both had a 10 speaker sound system with a 6 stack in dash CD player and reverse parking sensors. Options for the Statesman were leather seats, premium blaupunkt audio, level ride suspension, sunroof and turn by turn DVD based sat nav. The Caprice had most of the options of the Statesman fitted standard and the standard issue engine was the LS1 V8. The only options on the Caprice over the Statesman was a sunroof and sat nav. The DVD player system in the rear seats of the Caprice was standard if you optioned the V8. Other standard inclusions of the Caprice was the memory power front seats, auto dipping passenger side mirror when reverse was selected, special shadow tone headlights and fog lights, FE1.5 luxury sports tuned suspension with 17 inch alloys. Hope this explains it and helps you out mate.

Have the 2004 WK with liquid injection lpg. Get 600ks a tank of gas. Still looks good too.

Thank you for reviewing the Holden Caprice. I am in the United States and thank you for sharing the Australian auto industry. I will try explain the difference. The difference between the Holden Caprice and Statesman is like things were in the United States like the Oldsmobile 98 and 88 and the Buick Park Avenue and LeSabre. One has more features( Olds 98 and Park Avenue) and luxury options and the other has a little less( Olds 88 and LeSabre).

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

Our pleasure! Thanks for sharing that info! Plenty more Australian car reviews on the way👏

Im gunna deck my statesman out with all the caprice goods plus more! The space in these are insane good!

Loving the LEDs on this thing / real nice touch

I had the very last of the wl caprice it had the 6ltr from the ve in it still to this day i think about what an awesome driving car that was,great review once again.

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing! Glad you enjoyed

@andrewallen8020

Жыл бұрын

I've got a 6lt Wl Caprice and love it, a lot different then the 5.7

Statesman was made for a while before later in it's life was dropped for the Caprice. It was made especially to avoid the luxury car tax, for vehicles upto $55,000. The Grange was made by HSV.

What most people dont realise with those WK & WL statos and caprices is that they have some of the lowest drag coefficients of any Holden ever made - they'd absolutely weapons on a long enough road with the right driveline 💪

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeh! Crossing the country like no other.. (maybe an Au)

@Low760

Жыл бұрын

Never heard that one. The VN was something like .30cD though

@James-zj3ud

Жыл бұрын

@@Low760 VN Commodore 0.34 vs WK statesman 0.30 VF was 0.30 also.. still slightly short of the AU though which was 0.295

@Low760

Жыл бұрын

@@James-zj3ud source for that? The VN is a lot narrower and smoother than both cars.

@markconnell6023

Жыл бұрын

0.28 drag coefficient for WK/WL - modify them the same as any other LS platform I.e. heads/cam/exhaust with some 3.7/3.9 diff gears and they hammer the same as any other VX-VZ

Awesome 😎 video Ross Reviews. Please 🙏 bring out the AU XR6 VCT very soon please.

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

Coming soon!

@PETERNESS

Жыл бұрын

outstanding JORDAN

Loved this review, next time ur down Melbourne or Geelong way I’ve got a completely stock WH Caprice in near pristine condition. It’s been in my family since 01’ when it came out and it’s my weekender. If ur ever wanting another wh on the channel feel free to get in contact. All the best man

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

Sounds good! Appreciate it mate

Great video mate 👍 take care. 👍

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, you too!

Best sounding car so far.

The Caprice was exported from Australia to the Arab Gulf countries only. I am from Saudi Arabia and own a 2006 Caprice, the same car in your show. I think the difference between the Caprice (Chevrolet) and the Statesman (holden) is the location of the steering wheel. My car has the steering wheel on the left. beautiful car i love it 👌

Such a nice area to video such a luxurious vehicle ,tip top review

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

Thanks a ton

@PETERNESS

Жыл бұрын

@@RossReviewsau Back end of 2023 i fully expect subs to be well over 100K ,no 50/0 no ask the audience no phone a friend LOCK IT IN

Some more info on the cars exhausts and setups in your videos would be good

It's funny I nearly went for one of these over the FG Barra & the only reason I chose the FG is because it was 5yrs newer FG 2011 & the Caprice was 2006 also it had much lower ks & the reliability of the Barra engine they just go forever,but I've always loved the Statesman & Caprice since I was a kid & this one just proves why they're a great car,excellent vid Johnny mate cheers.

@Lexe-is5nv

Жыл бұрын

Shoulda went the Caprice, or even a Statesman over a dime a dozen Barra

@pete508

Жыл бұрын

@@Lexe-is5nv Yes mate I can't disagree with you,but I will say one thing in 6yrs I haven't had one single problem except a flat battery with the Falcon so it has definitely lived up to its claim as being reliable.

@Lexe-is5nv

Жыл бұрын

@@pete508 I own three 3 b series, two of them v8's. Even though I know Holden make a much more reliable v8, especially compared to Ford's 3 valve Triton. Just google that engine and you wouldn't go near it with a barge pole. But I did, (in my G220) and so far, so good. It does have timing chain slip at first start up ( very common with the 3 valve) I guess I like to be different, hence my v8's. I only bought my inline 2008 BF II Fairmont because it was from a family member, and it was even optioned with the six speed. But it's up for sale, and only after 6 months I know the Barra 190 is not for me. Its like new, there is nothing wrong with it, but I prefer to Drive my G220 4 speed, for its quiet effotless power, and unmatched ride. And don't get me started on my 2005 whipple s/c BA GT, with every factory option and only 70,000 km. In essence, I own a soon to be sold Barra 190 ZF and it was found wanting

That was my first car (The Caprice Royal version), I hated how long it was. It might not be obvious in the video, but this car is a bit longer than a GMC Yukon which makes it the best car for long road trips but not very good in the city

Own one myself. Only 128k on the clock. Love it 😊

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

Good stuff 🫡

I note this has the aftermarket 'Mars' headlights with LED running lights. The OEM cases disintegrated due to age and heat exposure so I bought a pair of these too. Problem is the low beam horizon is not level and doesnt comply with ADRs. Has anyone had a similar issue with theirs?

holden wk caprice what a beast of a thing lovely boat on wheels Aussie🇦🇺

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

amen sailor

HEY ROSS HAVE YOU DONE ANY TOYOTA 79 DUAL CAB & TOYOTA 79 SINGLE CAB UTE REVIEW

Please from where you bought head lights

Fun fact, the current sitting Australian PM used 2 identical WK's (modified with bullet proof glass and reinforced doors) for over a decade until going with BMW 5-series in approx 2015 I think.

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

very cool.. cheers for the info

Theres been a Senator in the HSV lineup since 1992 which was based on a VP commodore and every model commodore since then has had a HSV Senator

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

Really 😅 my bad not sure why I thought there wasn’t a senator for this model

I'll be buying a WH soon love em

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

Good stuff!

@Lexe-is5nv

Жыл бұрын

uGGGly

Hey mate just stumbled across this old one of yours and Im after some advice. I’m selling my FG XR6T for a couple projects. I’m chasing a cheaper v8 car. I’m stuck between a WK/WL V8, Manual crewman ss, and 6l VE Calais SS. Also had my eye on the v8 LTD’s and fairlanes. Want a good combo of sound, acceleration, fun and comfort. Any recommendations based on your drives with em all? Cheers man

I'd love to know what type of exhaust is on that caprice can anyone tell me it's just what I'm after

The Senator was released after the Caprice came out, 1990 vs 1992. I think the Senator started in the Vp!?

I prefer the Fairlane G220 or G8, much rarer, yes the engine does have its problems, but the low down torque is way better than Ls1. I took the gamble and am happy I did

The statesman has that wood grain type finish to it

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the comment

Senator was around since 1992 on the VP Commodore from hsv fwiw.

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

Damn I’m a look them up!

i love my caprice

@RossReviewsau

5 ай бұрын

🇦🇺💪

Let’s have more caprice’s on the channel

@RossReviewsau

8 ай бұрын

👌🇦🇺

You can usually get around 330rwhp (420hp at the motor) with a full exhaust, OTR and tune in the stock LS1

@memesandspices

Жыл бұрын

No way, thats how much a l77 makes with those mods

@ozwasp

Жыл бұрын

@@memesandspices VY Clubby was putting out 285kw or around 300rwhp and with long tube headers, OTR and mafless tune you can get an extra 30hp

@mattmurphy5419

Жыл бұрын

With a cam 350 max

@ozwasp

Жыл бұрын

@@mattmurphy5419 Here are 2: First one with stock motor with full tri Y exhaust, tune and OTR and is 232rwkw or 310rwhp (kzread.info/dash/bejne/h6mgyLydgb3FhZc.html). Second one has a cam also and is 307rwkw or 410rwhp (kzread.info/dash/bejne/lH5smKh8caSygaw.html)... Long tube 4 to 1 headers would have given more power in that VT

@mattmurphy5419

Жыл бұрын

@@ozwasp I’m no expert mate I could be wrong. Our local shops get 350hp tops ls1 with cam, otr, exhaust and tune. They do good business, it’s safe and not bad power. People come back coz their cars don’t blow up. I

Caprice was the flagship with Leather V8 Navigation stacker CD everything , Statesman was velour interior V6 or V6 L76 Supercharged .V8 was an optional engine at extra cost

@MartinJones123

Жыл бұрын

*L67

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the info!

damn, it not a Ross review without a 0-100

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

Sadly couldn’t find a safe spot

What rims are those?

Mate the senator was there back than based on a Calais. The statesman is a Cadillac the caprice is a Cadillac V with just a little more fruit

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

Really! I’m keen to see that then

What colour is that?

It's a right hand drive! Can you gather them for me to target east Africa!

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

haha

@mlionea

Жыл бұрын

@@RossReviewsau why laugh?

i have caprice 2006 LTZ

Be hard to do a 0 to 100 in Qld I would say

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

Was a nightmare

The main difference between the caprice and statesman is just the different luxury like it goes commodores then statesman then the caprice so the caprice is a bit more up market then the statesman as well as the caprice like my mates which is a 2006 or something along those lines and he has a LS2 6.0L in it

@Lotus-S70

Жыл бұрын

yeah but is there any different in the Infotainment system or the speakers or the seats or any extra features you get in a caprice over a statesman

@mightyscoobman2.02

Жыл бұрын

@user-ro1ou4xu4q yeah I believe the statesman doesn't have the rear speakers up in the headlining as well as those mirrors which also leads me saying it doesn't have the screens the the back of the head rest as most of the statesmans have more material seats and interior then leather and the caprice has a little more leg room at the back unless you have a taller person like my mate that has to have the seat back of course

@liamneilson5831

8 ай бұрын

@@Lotus-S70 i believe the caprice had a slightly better tune and came standard with a touch more power

I think the caprice is better looking than the ford Ltd s

@Joker-my9oi

Жыл бұрын

Once the wl and m came out I would agree but before then with the wh the ltd was much better looking in my opinion

@thomaswalton545

Жыл бұрын

@@Joker-my9oi agreed

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

I can see that

@Lexe-is5nv

Жыл бұрын

Na, LTD and fairlane, all the way, and fords BTR 4 speed craps on holden's changing for no good reason 4 speeds

Grange was the best 👌

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

🇦🇺👌👌👌

How reliable are these ? And how's the 4 speed

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

If looked after they go forever

@MO-wp7fb

11 ай бұрын

​@RossReviewsau Hey just got one ! I'm super happy with it man does it look mean and muscular

Tuff statesman build quality built with spanners not chop sticks am I right mate

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

This sounds tough 💪🏼 caprices are fat.

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

Love the noise

@Lexe-is5nv

Жыл бұрын

caprice and ltd should be quiet as possible

Caprice was better and with more stuff. Top - tier.

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

But more luxury eh

come review my caprice

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

Shoot me a message

I can confirm they don't fit in a standard garage. Hence never got to buy one

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

They are massive!

@AdamSWL

Жыл бұрын

My VR Caprice fit after I put the towbar through the plaster on the rear wall!!

@Lexe-is5nv

Жыл бұрын

There no wider, so I see no reason why they wont fit in a standard garage

@AdamSWL

Жыл бұрын

@@Lexe-is5nv It is a long wheel base car. The cars length is the issue with some garages!

@Lexe-is5nv

Жыл бұрын

@@AdamSWL your house in not big enough if it cant accommodate 300mm

Rare?

Ugh, I love Ross's content but I have had enough of the groupthink that is connected to this channel. Yes, EVs are not perfect but there are plenty of car loving folks who accept that our love of fuel burning vehicles will be a hobby and there will be better ways to get around soon. Large SUV EVs with massive batteries make no sense efficiency wise, but when have you guys ever criticised a RAM or an F 150? Past the first gen, we will have cleaner energy production and bountiful, cheap electricity. But you gotta walk before you run. Remember the Benz cars running around with 4km per hour speed limits circa 1900? That's where we are at. And you dudes are the ones extolling horses. Cheerio Luddites.

I prefer the WH over the WK.But each to their own.

Still a awesome Boat.....Wait I meant to say "Car" haha

@RossReviewsau

Жыл бұрын

Love a good Aussie boat 😎🇦🇺