Got my bus license in one of these. The gearshift was absolute murder on my shoulder. Got a phantom pain from just watching this.

@williampatrickfagan7590

Жыл бұрын

Being in the motor trade I suggest that was a fault in the bus or truck. Manufacturers listen to drivers. a A bad review of a vehicle makes Manufacturer take notice Same reason why truck drivers are treated like Gods by Ferry companies.

That reverse gear needs its own postcode! I remember we had a few manual buses like this on our school runs. One driver couldn't get it above fourth gear, try as he might. The driver that could would double clutch it into gear. As much as I like zipping around in a manual transmission car, I'd think for a bus it'd be tiring stirring that pot all day.

@james143611

Жыл бұрын

🤣too right! Yes you are right though, you don't think about it in a car, but you know when you've done a day in this, or a manual Bova that was also some work!

@ariskaltd5686

Жыл бұрын

Back in the 80’s you thought you were king of the road, if you were lucky enough to have a B10M to drive.

The trouble with the stick reminded me of a test-driving-lesson (was on the open house-day of a transportation company, just to get a taste of it) on a coach I had back in June, it had seen it fair share of hours and the gear selector stick was not the big throw-type like in this video, but one that looks a bit more like the one on a regular car, but just with much more options in all directions. I got lucky with the thing, the person who would drive me back to the transporter's main terrain had trouble getting it out of "N" (it was a semi-automatic gearbox I think) and the instructor mentioned "It can be a moody thing" and he had to slap the thing into N from D1 multiple times because it refused to engage the D1 set. After the third slap he carefully pushed the thing into D1 with one finger and the gearbox finally listened to the input :P . It provided me with a lot of new insight though, and have since taken up the idea of getting my bus-license :) . Nice sound from this bus, weird to hear it manually shifted, I only know the sound from the B10m's we had on commuter service (non-coach type of buses) which were all automatics (ZF's, 6-speed, with kickdown).

My first allocated coach was a W-plate B10M/Prem, ex-Wally Trolley. Last of the truly great coaches. 10l mid-mounted engine, cavernous luggage locker at the back, 6-speed manual box, and no flippin' computers telling you what to do!!!! Much as I don't miss the company, I sure do miss that coach......

Wow, memories flooding back, especially the screech from the belt on start up!. I drove for Stagecoach for 5.5 years (starting around 2003) and all the coaches were B10 Plaxtons for the first 2-3 years (when they were replaced by B7's which, IMO, weren't as good). As far as I remember, only two (out of maybe 20) were manual, but they were the preferred choice if the weather was wintery!. The bus I learned on was a B10 Van Hool and I remember the gearchange being vague in the extreme, like stirring a massive bowl of porridge!. But the most useful advice I was given was actually from another driver rather than the instructor. That was to use 1st gear to get the bus rolling, change into 2nd almost immediately. If you held on to first a bit longer, it was near impossible to get it into 2nd and indeed I witnessed quite a few of my fellow learners struggling with exactly that (after which, the instructor did tell them what to do). But once you got the hang of it, it wasn't too bad, and it certainly pulled strongly enough!. Speaking of which, I also remember one of our B10's on which the speed limiter didn't work, that was fun😲

@james143611

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes I also seem to recall these ended up as driver trainer vehicles as well, certainly Stagecoach Swindon had a handful in training livery, probably up to 2015, maybe before then, can't remember though if they were B7 or B10's Love the gear change comment stirring porridge 🤣 you are absolutely right about 1st though, it spins up so fast that you will struggle for 2nd. There is a Junction on a school route that see's you start off on a downhill slope onto a main road, much easier just to pull off in 2nd Bet no speedo was fun guessing what you were doing, getting pulled over like officer "do you know how fast you were going" "No, I was hoping you could tell me that" 🤣

@badbusdriver7160

Жыл бұрын

@@james143611 Oh no, it wasn't the speedo that wasn't working, but the limiter itself!. That particular coach usually only did school runs, but for whatever reason I ended up getting it for a run to Aberdeen (from Peterhead). Invariably I was running late coming home and back then I had no patience, so it was 'foot to the floor'!. I do remember glancing across as I overtook a Passat estate and catching a rather surprised expression from the driver, he was probably doing about 70..........😳. We had a couple of B10 deckers too and I also rated them very highly, great thing to drive!👍

@james143611

Жыл бұрын

@@badbusdriver7160 Oh! 🤣🤣 brilliant! Bet he thought his speedo wasn't working 😂

Retired Coach driver, loved the B10M sadly my left knee didn't lol, after doing city tours going up and down the box took its toll, thought we were in heaven when the B12Bs arrived with the I-Shift.

@james143611

Жыл бұрын

Haha! I heard alot about that! Some of our drivers were talking about how London is easier nowadays in modern vehicles and how much hell it was taking a B10M into London dipping the clutch all the time, up and down the box as you say

Here in Greece we had B10M articulated city buses from early 90s until 2021. By far the most reliable than newer b7L and b9L.

Steering, an absolute joy, terrific lock as well. I drive one every day and, the gear change is as easy as my car.

Fantastic camera angle. Thanks for sharing.

That gearbox looks like hard work. When i worked for Parcelforce back in the mid 90s, we had a Ford Cargo 7.5tonner and the gearbox on that was like trying to stir a pot of golf balls with a straw. I used to turn up to work half an hour early just to avoid being lumbered with it.

Love the angle of the cam, such a wide view for viewers

Even without any badging or identification whatsoever, i could tell you that's a B10M from the dash alone.

The bit at the start finding reverse was very familiar, give it a good push right over and back! Nice to see a driver changing gear at the right time, the vast majority used to run up to far higher engine revs than needed and well beyond the solid green sector of the counter. I always double declutched them though it got a better change - and when they were cold was often the only way it'd let you do it!

At 07:15 I can't believe the sheer incompetence of that idiot overtaking a coach on a blind bend, narrowly avoiding an oncoming vehicle. Has common sense become that rare?

@james143611

Жыл бұрын

Nowadays it has, unfortunately now you are public enemy number 2 on the roads, just below bikes, overtaking on stupid places is a common sight, only a few weeks ago someone overtook me using what is an overtaking lane for the opposite direction, which had a car coming up the road already overtaking traffic, was a very near miss!

@ulyssesvee3536

11 ай бұрын

Sadly not common anymore.

Thank you for an interesting ride.

1st gear on these Volvo coaches was only ever used on steep hills the Volvo engineers told me this and when fully loaded that’s why clutches were changed a lot as drivers were not told about this

Great bit of driving.

This is nostalgia. We don't' see many buses left with a manual transmission anymore.

@mathewwilliams5470

Жыл бұрын

Drive one every day we have 3 on the fleet all merc 33 seaters

Nice to someone who knows how to drive a b10m starting in first gear I drove these b10m for fifteen year’s and bloody loved them best coaches ever various body’s which som good some bad but the Volvo always brilliant tried mercs manns scania but always enjoyed the Volvo more the best I had was on a joncherre body loved working those body’s

omg i passed my psv in 1 of them brings back very good memory's my left shoulder still has pain from changing the gears lol

Hello there do you have to wait for it to warm up and start it

awsome drive ..

I had one of these at Tellings Golden Miller, Portsmouth KP51 SYF, 6 speed manual. Drove it on NatEx 310/324 service for a good 4 years, far better than the B12s

Great Video

Car mechanic here. How is the motion of changing gear transmitted to the gearbox? Is it via cables or metal linkages? I imagine the gearbox is near the rear of the bus? Just curious tbh

One thing I've never understood with the Premieres is the blind spot mirror on the offside but not the nearside. What are blindspots like that side? Nice view though. I'm starting my driver training with First Eastern Counties next week after working in an office for 25 years. Looking forward to a new challenge.

@james143611

Жыл бұрын

Yes a handy mirror the offside one for cars etc, and also when your eyes are dizzy looking through the heated screen lines, I use the blindspot mirror! Really could do with a nearside one though, but then the entrance door window is low so that sort of covers it, somehow I get by but after driving vehicles with 'corner mirrors' as I call them (blindspot mirrors covering the front and corner) I do miss not having them

I had no idea that buses with manual transmissions are still made

@IUseYouTube13711

Жыл бұрын

I think it's an older bus that's why

@AndreiTupolev

Жыл бұрын

This one's 20 years old

I love how in europe they still drive manual cars!

@raithrover1976

Жыл бұрын

The look of terror on American tourists' faces when they get to the rental desk at the airport and discover that they only have manual cars is a common sight here in the UK😂

Love me a B10, my allocated was P24 FTA at berry’s coaches, a van hool t8c the best combination by far I think

@james143611

Жыл бұрын

Lovely! Would love to drive an Alizee! There is someone that has preserved a Berry's Van Hool T8 P reg, think it's someone who works there, been about at rallies

@that_youtube_channel7343

Жыл бұрын

@@james143611 M825 HNS mate 🤙🏼 me and a few friends have another we’re putting back on the road. Ex Wallace Arnold K810 HUM. If you look for crusaders carnival club 2022 you’ll find under all that woodwork is ex berrys N758 CYA. Unfortunately a lot of the old girls are dying off and P24 was the last alizee in the fleet

@that_youtube_channel7343

5 ай бұрын

@@james143611an update my friend, we now own M825 HNS !

I’d love to drive that bus if I could, except I’m based in Australia!

I haven't driven a coach yet, only local buses, wright streetlite and streetdecks mostly. They are all automatic, i am really not a fan of it as most of our routes are in rural area and the auto gearbox is just not working out. But watching u ,,fighting" with that stick made feel grateful for my auto buses 😂 Nice driving tho, safe travels.

Hiya mate, this UK or Australia??

@james143611

Жыл бұрын

Hello, this is in the UK

@timeisup6844

Жыл бұрын

@@james143611 ok mate!😊👍

This brings back memories. The amount of B10M's I've driven, all sorts of bodies and from the Mk1 to the Mk4. It was such a popular chassis, and bullet proof. However, I spent the first ten years of my career wishing that the fleet would be fully automatic so I didn't have to change gear anymore. Now the entire fleet is AMT and every time it changes gear, the half shafts rattle, I kiss the windscreen and I wish that I was back in my manual. 🙄

@james143611

Жыл бұрын

So true! Over lockdown our vehicles were laid up for 8 months, once they were back on the road it was hard getting them going again, with the exception of this and the B12M which started up first time and no delay!

Goodness, we haven't had a manual transmission bus in the US in over twenty five years!

@stevenakiens3156

Жыл бұрын

Well this one is 22 years old. They're all automatic now.

May i buy bus from your yard how much and how can please tell me

Which one nsw or other

lovely coach that......

The B10M could be a very long vehicle. We had a school bus that had a lazy axle, it was huge for a rigid body.

It's a good thing that most of them are finally automatic now isn't it

Nice gear changes

@james143611

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Why air suspension seat are not active like in other's vehicles? Whell when i Was in England i Saw many vechicles dont have suspension seat driver like public buses, coaches, why? Suspension seat are the best thing in whole trucking

@james143611

Жыл бұрын

This one might have just tightened up, not sure actually, but coaches certainly do have them. My modern Tourismo does, very bouncy seat you soon know if you hit a dip in the road as the seat goes flying upwards! Can't speak for buses if they have them or not

I used this beeper sound on startup, today to wake my wife, because she has a terrible hangover.

Tolle. Frau, tolles Aussehen. Respekt

Is that beeping sound the air pressure warning?

@james143611

15 күн бұрын

Correct that's the ding sound that seems to be in most volvo's, is was parked up for sometime so lost a bit of air not much

wow you're on a manual tachograph. I haven't them in a while

Superb driving chief except I would have given a pass at 9:28

Don't you just want that wheel a little closer to you?

and no...i dont own the chandlers coaches

❤❤❤.... India

Someone needs to sort out that tracking and get that wheel centered!

When I’ve been on these the drivers always pulled away in second 😂 not the best for the clutch but quick

@iankp5901

4 ай бұрын

That's because 1st is a crawler gear designed for hill starts. If done properly 2nd gear starts on the level or downhill didn't adversely affect the clutch. Volvo's own staff recommended this method.

Is that just a 6 speed box?the throw on the stick is huge No one does bus and coach reviews I'm a hgv driver and they review everything would like to see reviews and comparisons

@james143611

Жыл бұрын

Is indeed 6 speed, and quite a throw, though I personally don't think it's as much as an old Bova had with the linkage system, that was almost like put it into reverse and at the same time crack your knuckles on the dashboard! You are right though there are a lot of HGV videos, I have not long recorded a sort of how I'm driving video so you get an idea on what it's like to drive, however I have also thought on doing coach reviews, it's a possibility so watch this space. What sort of truck do you drive?

@qaza007qaza

Жыл бұрын

@@james143611 I used to drive rigid and artics that had manual gearboxes last artic I drove with a stick was in 2010 everything since then is auto Volvo always had the best manual box I've not driven an ishift gearbox but hear good things on them I currently drive a merc which has a cr#p gearbox Always wanted to do coach work close to me is a company called Richmonds they have a beautiful fleet would love a go in a few coaches I do have a provisional but I chose artics over coaches but maybe one day If you can do some driving reviews I would be very interested Thanks James

@iankp5901

4 ай бұрын

Gear box a lot further away than on a lorry

From a professional driver's perspective, what would you say is the best things about driving Volvo coaches/buses in general? I know that they are the most popular bus/coach make in the world and from a mechanic's point of view they are quite easy to repair and maintain and usually last quite well and are basically quite reliable and offer great value for money. I have a a guy who is a semi-retired Stagecoach bus driver and he reckons that as far as his local depot is concerned most drivers enjoy driving a good Volvo automatic more than most others.

would be good to see exterior of the vehicle before you start the video

rare rh driving which country?

@timpulmanAustralia

Жыл бұрын

Uk

They change through the gears a lot better if your double clutch

@madanto2394

Жыл бұрын

Also known as crash shifting.highly complex

@miguelmsilva4112

Жыл бұрын

@@madanto2394 sounds like skill issue.

@madanto2394

Жыл бұрын

@@miguelmsilva4112 truck gearbox

@iankp5901

4 ай бұрын

Not required with a syncro box and actually confuses the mechanism. Only necessary with a crash box with straight cut teeth. The main cause of poor non double de-clutching changes is rushing.

B10M is museum vehile

@iankp5901

4 ай бұрын

Plenty still in service in the uk

Estranho a sensação, parece que vai capotar o tempo todo kkkkk

2:22もっと左に寄れ

Bonito pais, quisiera trabajar y prosperar alla. Como hago para emigrar, estoy comiendo arroz con granos todos los dias y hacinado en una vivienda con un poco e pela bolas.

What a waste of money (NOT THE VIDEO) THE waste is cash, fuel, and drivers time, 20 minute round trip, ten miles of fuel used and 30 minutes drivers wages

@james143611

Жыл бұрын

Well depends how you look at it to be honest, I know what you mean but it is 2 miles each way, so 4 mile round trip but to be honest not that much fuel used and being on a yard day in between schools is something we are paid for anyway if that makes sense, and sometimes we'd fuel up there on the way back from schools instead. It's cheaper as well as we use a fuel card so we don't pay the pump price it's about 10p per litre cheaper

@ColinHamilton-ed8du

4 ай бұрын

It could be that the vehicle is out on a job later that day or early on the following day! Therefore filling the vehicle now is a good idea and avoids any potential delays collecting the customer.

@1ns4ne1d10t

3 ай бұрын

I'd be glad if he'd come work for us and be doing that in our firm. At least he's filling the motors up for the next driver to take on after he's finished his shift and being aware of the existence of other staff needing to use the vehicles. And not running them down into the reserve light and not the "Someone else can do it" attitude for some other poor ******** to come in and panic first thing in the morning. It sounds like you'd rather come in to no fuel, no oil, no adblue, no coolant, and half a coach not working because some other pratt was too lazy to put 150 litres in and took it out half defective and didn't bother to defect it when they got back. Plenty of that goes on where I work coughcoughPARTTIMERETIREDDRIVERScoughcough

he looks like he hate his job he looks so maaaaaaaaaad

外車ばっかりですね

Seems to me that the gearbox could do with a major refurbishment, I wonder how many times it`s been around the clock in 12 years of service.

@RWL2012

5 ай бұрын

this vehicle is over 20 years old.

So JDM bus it look like.