House of Dragons is destroying Rings of Power because it's a show produced, acted, directed by grown ups with a level of craft and dedication. Which is SHOCKING after season 8 of Game of Thrones, but they've done a fantastic job. Rings of Power has none of that.

@chasehedges6775

Жыл бұрын

Could not have said it any better.

@clkgtr12

Жыл бұрын

Bravo Ryan Condal

@Ocelot41

Жыл бұрын

Funny. Cause HoD is just a little bit better than season 8 and RoP

@stupidhandles

Жыл бұрын

The pacing is terrible, TVs got so bad nobody seems to realise the writing/pacing of hotd is dire. No character development because of huge time jumps each episode, hotd needs the war to start before the show finds its stride

@allanbellemare1949

Жыл бұрын

My gf and I find both shows to be terrible. There are no characters worth caring about in either show.

"Do not mourn me mother,I may have lost an eye but I gained a Dragon" literally that one line destroyed rings of power writing.

@manfromdarklands

Жыл бұрын

It did

@lelouchstrife1891

Жыл бұрын

agreed even though i hate the little shit i agree

@tssmith1701

Жыл бұрын

That was directly from the book "Fire and Blood".

@deshawnburton7114

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully House of Dragon writing doesn't water down over the years like with GoT

@deadheadwsp705

Жыл бұрын

@@deshawnburton7114 the book are already finished so they shouldn’t have the same problems they had with the original series. One can only hope though 🤞🏼

Watching children fight was literally more entertaining than rings of power.

@anikultra2525

Жыл бұрын

and it was more brutal too.

@jenaquinthejester4156

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Hunger Games and Battle Royale for the win!

@MollyFC

Жыл бұрын

And those child actors expressed more emotions than anyone in ROP

@jl1702

Жыл бұрын

If Amazon had made HotD, they wouldn’t have allowed Aemond to deck his nieces in retaliation cuz it would be “toxic masculinity”

@RockSmithStudio

Жыл бұрын

“I may have lost an eye, but I gained a dragon”

-House of Dragon: "Dracarys"! -Rings of Power: "tHe sEA iS aLwAYs rIGht"!

@alexandrejose8362

Жыл бұрын

The civilization that got so self-centered they rejected the archangels that gave them their island and the immortals that always had been their friends praises the sea as if it was a god. Yeah, no contradiction with the theme of that civilization.

@jenni5104

Жыл бұрын

House of the Dragon - "Fire is a prison; the sea is an escape. But you and I are made of fire. We were always meant to burn together." Rings of Power - "Do you know why a rock sinks but a ship does not?"

@No_One_________

Жыл бұрын

@@alexandrejose8362 1

@DrHannibal1105

Жыл бұрын

Even the 'Sea People' have a far more menacing and epic catchphrase in ASOIAF universe. "What is dead may never die." Looking forward to watching 'The Red Kraken' in upcoming season.

@IshtarNike

Жыл бұрын

That was the dumbest thing I'd ever heard. I literally cannot fucking believe they thought that was somehow profound or interesting.

When Galadriel told the elite Numenorian warriors that the best way to kill someone with a sword is to stab it…I literally clapped for 10 minutes because that is genius tactical acumen that only a strong woman can come up with

@sensuscommunis2526

Жыл бұрын

#womansplaining

@creedjeremy

Жыл бұрын

Compared that to “Stick ‘em with the pointy end.”

@amicuscure8s

Жыл бұрын

IT BROKE NEW GROUND!!!!

@chinmay4331

Жыл бұрын

@@creedjeremy that was told to an 10 year old girl.

@vario6492

Ай бұрын

​@@chinmay4331and it was said with levity, not like it's a professional insight 😂

Alicent is a FANTASTIC example of a complex character. She was by all accounts a pretty sweet and innocent person stuck in a situation by her father with no one in her corner, and the way she changes is a believable reaction to the situation. Which is how you write these characters well.

@daarom3472

Жыл бұрын

The only problem is we dont really see the change which is what makes it less believable sadly. These extreme feuds whereby small comments and stares mean a lot need to develop over many years.

@Gannoh

Жыл бұрын

@@daarom3472 You do see her change? All the characters who change have those changes substantiated. You don't have to follow her for 10 years to understand how she gets to where she is at, that's what the inciting events for such are for.

@daarom3472

Жыл бұрын

@TravelerPat both just seem like different women. D'arcy has literally 0 screen presence, while Alcock was pretty much carrying the first 5 episodes. @gannoh no you don't see her change. You see Sansa changed in GoT and her change is believable.

@Yarblocosifilitico

Жыл бұрын

She's my fav right now. Daemon has disappointed me a bit in the last eps, but I'm sure he'll change my mind.

@Yarblocosifilitico

Жыл бұрын

@@daarom3472 huh? We see it when Rhaenyra lies to her and she vouches for her and that creates problems. Then she sees how Viserys is too soft with her and she resents her as she explains clearly in her snapping speech. She has followed duty all her life while seeing how breaking duty is not punished.

House of the Dragon is also made by adults and not adult "pretenders" and House has ALOT to lose and make up for with the disastrous season 8 of GoT.

@jonasthemovie

Жыл бұрын

”Adult pretenders” are people who hashtag #adulting

@neltins5308

Жыл бұрын

Its really simple, House of the Dragon is following things from the books, and even has GRRM helping create it.

@AdderTude

Жыл бұрын

@@neltins5308 As Will and Gary said, anything to keep him from finishing The Winds of Winter.

@MollyFC

Жыл бұрын

More like HOTD was made by fellas that have a real passion for the story, while ROP was made by dudes looking for writing credits and money.

@Langley_Ackerman19

Жыл бұрын

​@@AdderTude yeah I'm still salty about that hence I've not started HOD yet. 😑 He's gonna die and we'll never read the conclusion to ASOIF.

Rings of power is a good example what would happen if you gave 1 billion $ to two highschool graduates with no life and writing experiences to make a show.

@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623

Жыл бұрын

I think RoP shows why these guys languished for 10 years producing nothing of consequence as their scripts got rejected. Jar Jar Abrams was probably glad to be rid of them.

@RoninDave

Жыл бұрын

@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 and Abrams is hardly any standard of excellence himself so they had to be really bad and ROP shows that

@justin1730

Жыл бұрын

Rings of Power is a good example of what would happen if you threw a billion dollars at a Sy-Fy Original Feature.

@gruby970

Жыл бұрын

You seriously think they were given a biilion dollars? 100 million at most. Plus 250 (or less, as it surfaces now) for rights, 100 for media shills and 550 into tax havens somewhere in the caribbean.

@Klaaism

Жыл бұрын

Hey Sharknado was brilliant cinema by comparison

When Galadriel sarcastically smiled and said to Sauron "Let's see Paul Allen's Ring of Power" my entire apartment complex quaked with cheers and praise.

@zedas1

Жыл бұрын

Truly a moment in film.

@trolleriffic

Жыл бұрын

"Look at that subtle off-gold coloring. The tasteful thickness of it. Oh my god, it even has Black Speech writing..."

@ReiDavizin

Жыл бұрын

Guyladriel: "I like to dissect orcs. Did you know i'm utterly insane?"

@raminybhatti5740

Жыл бұрын

@@ReiDavizin get out you freak 👏👏😂😂

HoTD actually has "strong, independent women" in their story but they (1) don't portray the protagonist and other women in the series as perfect/blameless characters and (2) they don't portray the male characters as inept, asinine or weak in comparison. Well done I'd say. There are NO good people in this storyline and that makes it more human than most of these alternatives.

@gregsterthekegster

Жыл бұрын

Not true. The king whining at everyone who he should marry.

@billytessio6326

Жыл бұрын

@@gregsterthekegster It's not about whining at everyone about who he should marry. It's about the fact that he is a good man but an indecesive and weak king. This is an enduring Machiavellian archetype.

@sensuscommunis2526

Жыл бұрын

You sure about #2...? LOL Because I hear complaints about men all the time when watching HoD.

@MrReubenTishkoff

Жыл бұрын

1 - the protagonist comes across as a Mary Sue. At 14 she tells the high council how to run the kingdom and rides dragons like a seasoned rider. She also has a bit of the "don't you know who I am?" attitude, though less than Galadriel. 2- men are portrayed in general bad lights. The king is weak/incompetent/indecisive others are manipulative, cruel (Daemon/Hightower...) or unhinged/overly emotional (Criston) who let their emotions run them.

@Hokie11

Жыл бұрын

@@sensuscommunis2526 those complaints (rightfully) come from the women since women are second class citizens in this show. They have a right to complain. You act like women in the Middle Ages didn’t complain about men having all the power. Most of the fighting in this show has been done by men beating the crap out of one another. So far, the men are the only ones making the big decisions (except in ep8 because Viserys is on his death bed). Just look at Daemon, Otto, Aemond, Aegon, etc. all of those characters are the ones driving the show with the exception of Rhenerya, Alicent, and sometimes Rhenys. So I don’t know where you’re opinion is coming from.

The part where Guyladriel realised her face was more durable than the literal fires of Mount Doom, hopped into the DeLorean, crashed the Council of Elrond and screamed THERE IS A TEMPEST IN ME! before headbutting the one ring into oblivion was so inspiring that I shit myself. Stunning and brave.

@blacksheep9505

Жыл бұрын

This is just about as faithful to Tolkiens source material as RoP.

@doctorajaguar

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤌🏻

@ifstatementifstatement2704

Жыл бұрын

LOL LOL I'm laughing so hard!

@OtherDAS

Жыл бұрын

I loved how everyone in the Council then clapped.

@patrickdezenzio4988

Жыл бұрын

And the sad part is at least we can kill Sauron by throwing his ring into the fires of Mt Doom, but if we throw her in, she'll just walk out and kill you with her stare.

Tolkien Fans: "I don't like tRoP." tRoP writers: "Your just evil ista-phobes!"

@willbournerv2259

Жыл бұрын

"yall are just haters and trolls" No, we just have taste

@willbournerv2259

Жыл бұрын

@Jaycja word it how you like, point is we know dog shit when we see it

@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623

Жыл бұрын

We're not just evil istaphobes, we're patently evil istaphobes.

@CHIEF__

Жыл бұрын

@@willbournerv2259 not even that, they call people losers and man babies for passively disliking something. The lack of self awareness is astonishing.

@kevinkerwin4118

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't make you sound smarter when you repeat Nerdrotic lines btw.

When Galadriel said "bring out the gimp," I knew Butch and Marsellus were in deep trouble.

@faustsiftar7683

Жыл бұрын

Lol 🤣

@Lonovavir

Жыл бұрын

I knew she was entitled and arrogant, but I didn't she was depraved as well.

@pedrovargas2181

Жыл бұрын

😆😆😆

@Garrus1995

Жыл бұрын

“Think the gimp’s sleeping.” “Well, guess you’ll just to have to go and wake him up now, won’t you?”

@Pepespizzeria1

Жыл бұрын

Now go home and get your shine box

Bagage Claim was a great guest. Intelligent, articulate and comes with a good Feminine take on the subjects you all cover.Can she come back soon?

@climbermatt556

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Easily more intriguing and well spoken than any of the superficial girl bosses in RoP lol

@pagatryx5451

Жыл бұрын

Yeah she's really good. I just found her channel recently. Welcome surprise to see her here.

@andystegall7407

Жыл бұрын

Her perspective is the most valuable since all the shitty decisions made for these shows are ostensibly made with women in mind and if she points out the emperor is naked then you know these writers are making stuff badly on purpose

@RanMouri82

Жыл бұрын

I liked her perspective, too. Men aren't the only ones missing tough guys in media. We women find beta males unappealing for good reasons.

@aswaswasw2323

Жыл бұрын

She was spot on about what women find attractive in men, we want men who know when to be kind and gentle but dangerous enough to protect and fight for the home and family. Yes ma'am. I need to see the grit and grime along with the kind.

The real shame is that Tolkien's world, in the right hands, would be miles ahead of any competition in the fantasy film genre. In the wrong hands, well... behold.

@skyereave9454

Жыл бұрын

It practically made the fantasy genre. What a lost opportunity.

@kevinoneil5120

Жыл бұрын

@@skyereave9454 Star Wars, Tolkien, Marvel... the book should read "How to Squander a Gold Mine"

@uphilliceskater

Жыл бұрын

There are no right hands. No one could do it justice.

@Klaaism

Жыл бұрын

Im starting to think we are suppose to be rooting for the orcs and Not-Sauron... its the only thing that makes sense.

@soufianeag9966

Жыл бұрын

GRRM’s world is equaly good if not better!

My sister recommended RoP and my dad recommended HotD. I watched both first episodes back to back. HotD felt like it was written by adults while RoP had pretty colors and is high school fanfiction.

@reek4062

Жыл бұрын

I don't know whether RoP is better than HotD, but it's better than the Jackson movies.

@puujeelkhagva8575

Жыл бұрын

@@reek4062 you wont be saying this after 20 years. cause one will be forgotten. and classics stay relevant.

@reek4062

Жыл бұрын

@@puujeelkhagva8575 I hope all these adaptations will be forgotten in 20 years

@reecetarrant5414

Жыл бұрын

@@reek4062 Nah. Peter Jackson's movies (even the Hobbit trilogy) are miles ahead of what RoP has to offer. To even compare Peter Jackson's work to the crappy fanfic that is RoP is a pretty huge insult. It's like taking a well-organized university lecture and comparing it to a PowerPoint presentation ran by 12-13 year-old students for school. Like, how can a comparison even be made?

@autumnatic

Жыл бұрын

@@reek4062 You must be a troll or a child. RoP is unwatchable because the dialogue and story gives me such bad second-hand embarrassment. It really feels like they either hired a high school student with an F grade in writing; or are experimenting with AI generated television by feeding their algorithm with random tropes and social topics to cycle through like a bizarre mad lib. It bears almost no resemblance to the literature whose name it's appropriating. It's soulless.

HOTD has about 1/3rd of the per episode budget of ROP and yet it looks light years more authentic and genuine

@EvilDoresh

Жыл бұрын

But I bet the _catering_ wasn't as good. Or wherever that money went.

Among all these "when Galdriel..." jokes, I need to insert that when Galadriel shook off being slammed with a wall of volcanic ash without so much as singing a hair I had a good laugh. That ACTUALLY happened.

@aldunlop4622

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t call them jokes, they’re just fucking annoying.

Popeye is a good example of that. His default is friendly and respectful. If he is disrespected, first he tries to ignore it. If that doesn't work and they keep pushing, he confronts them and asks for an apoligicky. If that doesn't work, he beats them up.

@e.s.l.1083

Жыл бұрын

"He is strong to the finish when he eats his spinach 🍃🌱🍃🌱 he's Popeye the sailor man."

@seeyouauntie

Жыл бұрын

"apologicky" fuckin' eh bud!! 🤣🤣

@snatchadams69

Жыл бұрын

@@e.s.l.1083 toot toot

@justin1730

Жыл бұрын

They put out some seriously racist Popeye content during WW2. Look it up.

@seeyouauntie

Жыл бұрын

@@justin1730 racist against?

One of these quotes do not belong to the group: “History does not remember blood, it remembers names.” “Do not mourn me, mother. It was a fair exchange. I may have lost an eye but I gained a dragon.” “Exhausting, wasn’t it? Hiding behind the cloak of your own righteousness; but now they see you as you are.” “THE SEA IS ALWAY RIGHT!”

I agree that Daemon is weirdly attractive. Like, visually, I don't find Matt Smith traditionally handsome, but damn, he has such a pull. Both as Phillip in the Crown and even more so as Daemon, he is hella attractive. He steals every scene he is at, and he and Rhaenyra have such great chemistry together, that I find myself rooting for them despite the incest.

@icecell

Жыл бұрын

100%. I'm no fan of Matt Smith especially during his Doctor Who run, but he's just a magnetic force here in HOTD. I really thought they miscast Daemon at first, and now I'm gladly, pleasantly surprised. Props to the man.

@devinhyde1139

Жыл бұрын

despite the incest!🤣😊

@autumnatic

Жыл бұрын

He has Benedict Cumberbatch syndrome. Male "butterface."Proof to all men who lost the genetic lottery just how much can be overcome with charisma and an accent.

The interplay between Alicent and Rhaenyra is great. They both dearly love their children, and correctly see each other as the greatest threat to their future welfare. Neither has much of a choice but to wage war to protect their kids, as there’s no way to reconcile. We’re watching the start of a massive train crash. It’ll be interesting to see how many more episodes Viserys lasts (like 9 more years in the book) considering his will alone is holding off civil war.

@Klaaism

Жыл бұрын

More like a dragon crash... granted Ive read the source material. Avoiding spoilers but I hope the showrunners do the dragon dogfighting justice.

@IAMTHEIC3MAN

Жыл бұрын

The Dance of Dragons never would've happened in the first place had Viserys listened to Daemon about the Hightowers being fucking snakes.

@Thrawn23.

8 ай бұрын

​@@IAMTHEIC3MANit could have happened even if Viserys married Laena. He wouldn't have disinherited Rhaenyra and to gain power Larys would go to Laena instead of Alicent

I'm really happy for Matt Smith that he finally landed a good series after leaving Doctor Who, and that he's been able to showcase his talents.

@Nestid93

Жыл бұрын

He also participated in Crown after Doctor Who. Great series and good role for Matt.

"Let's buy the biggest fantasy IP in the world and then piss off the people who made it big" - Daddy Jeff Bezos

Baggage Claim is awesome, get her on again.

@rogerborg

Жыл бұрын

Blithe and bonny.

"THiS SHow HAs to REfLEcT tHe WorlD wE LivE in toDAy" "thiS SHow HAS to refLEcT tHe WorLD wE livE in tODAy" "ThiS SHoW HAs to RefLEcT tHe WOrlD wE LiVe In ToDAy" "tHis shOw has to RefLEcT tHe WorlD wE LivE iN toDAy"

@radiator7731

Жыл бұрын

"this show makes me want to murder myself"

@badconnection4383

Жыл бұрын

Yeah cuz escapism be damned aparrently.

@iggyzeta9755

Жыл бұрын

@@badconnection4383 More than fantasy based on Europe needs to be changed to gaslight native Europeans.

@captbuckyohare5585

Жыл бұрын

Last time I checked, in the world we live in, volcanoes were fucking hot.

@AdderTude

Жыл бұрын

@@badconnection4383 To them, if you're not constantly worried about real-world issues, you don't care enough.

When Arondir screamed, "JOOS, WILL NOT, REPLACE US!!!" I bursted into tears.

@marthvader14

Жыл бұрын

Based Arondir?😳

"We need Tolkien to reflect the modern day!" -- Well, they nailed it, as the Tolkien Empire is completely collapsing under the weight of people that don't care about it currently raiding it for everything it's worth.

@TheEvertw

Жыл бұрын

I detest the hubris that they think they can determine what the "modern day" is. At best, they reflect their image of the modern day, but more likely how they think the modern day should be.

The HoTD writers aren't professional activists first and screenwriters second

@gantref9202

Жыл бұрын

And yet HotD tackles issues of sexism, tradition, and class far more successfully than most other hamfisted attempts to

@wingsoffreedom3589

Жыл бұрын

​ with little understanding of it but yes they handle it well.

House of the Dragon is faithful to it's source material, The Rings of Money laundering.... Power isn't. Enough said.

@ReformedByChrist

Жыл бұрын

Knowing the Dance of the dragons tale and seeing how perfectly they've adapted this show is just really awesome. I had hope from the beginning, glad now everyone's seeing it too😆

@daquaviousbingleton9763

Жыл бұрын

@@ReformedByChrist imo opinion they have actually made it better than the book since u can see the actual perspectives of the characters

@budakbaongsiah

Жыл бұрын

Well, not entirely. The Velaryons are supposed to look like Targaryens, and Rhaenys are supposed to have a black hair as her mother was a Baratheon. Rhaenyra's children had brown hairs and brown eyes from their bastard father, Harys Strong.

@daquaviousbingleton9763

Жыл бұрын

@@budakbaongsiah true but plot wise it’s pretty close

Matt Smith is killing it! You never know what he is gonna do and he does not disappoint. I love how he will say everything you are thinking in your head as he interacts with characters and is as deadly with his tongue as he is with a sword.

@helloMRdj1

Жыл бұрын

but him alone wouldnt be enough to make the story good. The story is already complex, it builds up pretty well with well rounded characters with frictions between them, the possibilities for where the story goes are multiple. Daemons ability to bring up chaos is cherry on top.

@PaulSmith-nb6md

Жыл бұрын

@@helloMRdj1 I mean....I didnt suggest he could do it alone so not really sure what your point is there but he is definitely the most interesting character and is bringing in most of the popularity

@chrischarlesworth4598

Жыл бұрын

I've found he can actually say more with a glance or a subtle look then in speaking. Even in the background he is worth watching to see his reactions. Never really been a big fan of his but I'm coming round to seeing him as a class actor.

@PaulSmith-nb6md

Жыл бұрын

@@chrischarlesworth4598 I understand that. I became a fan when he did Doctor Who but he took the longest for me to grow to like in that series. Since then only saw him in Terminator Genesis which was just bad overall but not his fault. He has grown a lot as an actor and I hope they dont plan on killing him too soon

@tommylawrence8336

Жыл бұрын

Morbius 😂

The animosity towards Rings of Prime from the fans is thanks to the animosity the show showed towards them first - you get what you give.

@reek4062

Жыл бұрын

Fans? Where?

Didn't think I'd watch either, watched an episode of the dragon, instantly got hooked.

@Theydas

Жыл бұрын

It was alright, but last episode was super cool

@rolandxb3581

Жыл бұрын

The marketing throws me off, they're advertising it with the line "no woman can be on the iron throne" or something at the center of the ad. I figured it would be another instance of historically idiotic, lame, stale faux feminism of "women are just better, deal with it", but apparently not?

@zab6124

Жыл бұрын

yeah, they seriously mishandled the advertisement

@TheodoreBotman

Жыл бұрын

@@rolandxb3581 Nothing goes well for either of the main women in the show, They are not better in anyway than any of the men.

@rolandxb3581

Жыл бұрын

@@TheodoreBotman I'm not a fan of gore or brutal violence but that'd at least satisfy my sense of realism.

RoP fans: “greatest show ever!” Tolkien fan: points out one problem. RoP fans: “ITS JUST FANTASY. NO ONE CARES. Fantasy sucks! Tolkien was a white supremacist and if you like his stuff, you’re an incel”

@reek4062

Жыл бұрын

RoP fans are closer to being Tolkien fans than Peter Jackson fans.

Y'all reminded me of what my history professor told us on the first day of studying ancient history. Do not project your modern ideas, sensibilities, etc onto the people and societies that lived back then. And that always stuck with me, especially in the last couple years when I've been seeing people do exactly that...

@futuretimetraveller8677

Жыл бұрын

except its not "back then" its a completely fantastic world that never existed...which makes peoples complaint regarding marriage etc even MORE baffling

@EvilDoresh

Жыл бұрын

@@futuretimetraveller8677 It is _somehwat_ "back then" in that it takes cues from history. GoT itself is basically The War of the Roses in a fictional setting.

@EvilDoresh

Жыл бұрын

One cannot emphasize this enough. People of the past had _very_ different ideas of what was acceptable.

I think Vince Gilligan said it best when he hires people to work with: people who can tell stories either with set design, clothing, direction, writing etc.

@crazyralph6386

Жыл бұрын

Thanks to BLM and race pimps like Al and Jesse, no longer can filmmakers like VG hire creative and experienced filmworkers like that, without having to fill a mandatory quota. Why the vast majority are filming outside of Hollywierd, ie Norseman/Viking based films such as The Northman, where they were able to bypass token black Viking warriors, which would look as ridiculous as this ROP Elf. What blows my mind, is that in the Wakanda Forever trailer, every single one of their warriors and tribesmen were ALL black??? Hmmm, so much for “diversity”?

@wingsoffreedom3589

Жыл бұрын

and now he's making something new I hope it's good.

It was good to see Baggage Claims on the show.. :)

"To be a pacifist, one must be capable of violence. Otherwise you're just... harmless."

House of the Dragon has been a quantum leap compared to Rings of Power. It’s well-written, has a powerhouse and diverse cast, and I can’t get enough of it. Hats off to the show runners at HBO.

The summer knights line helped establish the world, after the long reign of old king Jaehaerys the kingdoms had seen very little of war outside of Dorne and the Stormlands, so the tourney field was mostly filled with green boys.

@cardenova

4 ай бұрын

Yeah I noticed that too. Many of the details I originally found kinda tedious or unnecessary the first time watching it were actually instruments to reinforce the idea of a peaceful legacy of Jaehaerys & Viserys I, when I recently rewatched it. Like they sort of cement the idea that the dynasty is indeed at the peak of its power, which is actually pretty important given the fact that we know a civil war is about to ensue and it’s even mentioned in GOT that the Targaryens never recovered from that civil war (Princess Shireen).

With this being the first time I'm seeing Baggage Claim, I have to say I love her thoughtful insights, personality and demeanor. You have a new fan miss!

@aldunlop4622

Жыл бұрын

Yeah she’s coherent, thoughtful, intelligent.

You guys nailed it! I agree with Baggage Claim 100%. As a heterosexual woman ( I can’t believe I have to claim this because of this day and age ) A man with grit and testosterone is a extremely sexy thing and it’s hard wired in our DNA. I’ll take a man that will make me feel safe and protected over a scrawny girl/boy. This is what turns me off to no end with this gender swapping shows. No interest.

@miskatonic6210

Жыл бұрын

These men are still a little girls fantasy and everybody knows it. Like female porn stars talking with soft voices telling a man how big he is. It's just lazy writing to cater to these fantasies. When you are a sane person you know it's just a fantasy and you certainly don't want to spend your life in a relationship with that kind of people.

Excellent panel and commentary. I gained a lot more appreciation for House of Dragons by going back and reviewing the first few episodes, it allowed me to connect all of the dots for all of the characters, it is a nuanced and rich ct of characters.

Also it just genuinely feels like passion and love goes into the House of Dragon.

That Halbrand vs Daemon point at the end is a good one. Halbrand is just try-hard and everyone seems to think he's some kind of opportunist anti-hero with a dark past but he certainly doesn't act like it

Viserys walking in the throne room in episode 8 was such an amazing scene 10/10. Such an amazing character. How could I get the same emotional reaction to a crippled old man walking to his chair as fucking Luke Skywalker returning In the mandolorian. It was that good

It's not a competition...it's 2 shows: one sucks the other doesn't. The end.

@xjimmemakesmusicx

Жыл бұрын

Except it is a competition… they are going after an extremely similar market. This isn’t rocket science.

@themydnighthour

Жыл бұрын

@@xjimmemakesmusicx ur mom's a competition.

@carlrood4457

Жыл бұрын

@@xjimmemakesmusicx Yes, but there's nothing preventing people from watching both. It's not like the days when you had to choose which one to watch live while recording the other.

@AndrewThoesen

Жыл бұрын

Hey let’s let the lads get their views ok?

@trolleriffic

Жыл бұрын

@@carlrood4457 When there's a good show and a bad show then a lot of the potential audience will watch the good show and not bother with the bad. If there was only one or the other than someone wanting their fix of fantasy TV probably is more likely to tune in even if it's not great because there isn't an obvious alternative.

Rings of Power is like a film that is divided onto 8 episodes and call it a series.

@LoneWolf-wp9dn

Жыл бұрын

unfortunately a lot of series are like that nowadays... the days of just getting a 45 minute adventure every week are kinda gone

@alexisnaranjo

Жыл бұрын

A series!!!!

Man, seeing everyone being this into anything after that s8 disaster is just amazing and somehow heartwarming..just talking and breaking down characters like in good ol’ times 🫶🏻 I forgot how it felt to be excited about a show or characters.. Also, on the topic of Daemon, my mom, younger sister and older are all down for him. I haven’t seen my mom like male character so much since maybe Jon Snow 🤣 (ofcourse pre season 5), and my older sister is not even that much into GOT, so yeah, Daemon is winning hearts of ladies

About the age of the male numenorians, Legolas and Gimli said it best "most have either seen too many winters or too few" no one but Elindel looks like a combat tested man

@josephsonderling2384

Жыл бұрын

The 60 year old Rohirrim farmers picking up spears in Helms Deep had more testosterone in their little calloused pinkies than any male in ROP has in their entire body.

When I check HOT D's runtime and see it exceeds 60 minutes: "You beauty!" --> and - it always feels shorter than an hour. When I check ROP's runtime and see it exceeds 60 minutes: "No..." --> feels as long as ROTK extended cut - minus the fun. The cardinal sin = boredom. I could forgive many things, if it were entertaining. But my word, this is top tier tedious.

Of course Nerdrotic is in this podcast, I'm so happy! He's a real life Tolkien OG. Love seeing the fans winning this war with Cringe of Power.

@reek4062

Жыл бұрын

He's no Tolkien fan. He's just a grifter trashing RoP to get viewers.

So here is the digest version. House of the Dragon is good. Rings of Power is shite. Sorted. 👍 Glad I could help.

@roshanmeah

Жыл бұрын

Wait... What? 'Good' you say? 'Shite' you say? How did you do that in two sentences?

House of dragon shows just how much love was put into it's filming and production while rings of power shows the lack thereof

I think House of the Dragon is a boring re-hash of every GoT story beat and it is STILL 10x better than Rings of Power

Great commentary guys! Think about how commanding Viggo Mortensen was as Aragorn or the guy who played Théoden. Mature and charismatic.

@Mcfctreble23

Жыл бұрын

Bernard hill

@foodfromthefuture

Жыл бұрын

Like we really got carried away somewhere between 2000 and now. Aragorn is supposed to be over 100 years old guy still at peak of his power, which i can't even imagine as someone in his twenties, and he really does give you this vibe of super wise human, both strong and considerate, same as Théoden.. I would actually really follow these people into battles when it would come to it. In this show u get f-ing Galadriel who is several times older and yet acts like a teenage child... It's just wtf

@johns.1854

Жыл бұрын

@@foodfromthefuture I agrée! Even so, Aragorn still has lessons to learn and challenges to overcome before he is ready to become king…yet he is already wise, experienced, and strong when the trilogy begins.

@Osafune2

Жыл бұрын

Bernard Hill was magnificent as Theoden. One of my favourite performances from those movies, he nailed it completely. A man cowed and humiliated by Wormtongue feeling a lot of hurt and anger, but still chooses to be honourable, courageous and good in the end. Such a great character, an antidote to bleak nihilism in so much modern entertainment

@johns.1854

Жыл бұрын

@@Osafune2 my favorite performance in the trilogy.

The dragons of HOD will always destroy the orcs of ROP. But also to add more to the discussion between Drinker and Claim about the attractiveness of the Rogue Prince. It is like the bad boy type in high school dramas and females have been attracted to the mysterious bad boy types due to the swagger and assertiveness that is what Daemon has along with his awareness of the environment he is in and he knows how to play the game. But in that same mindset there is a balancing act and if one veirs to one side then that is when chaos will come. But on the subject between Rhaenyra and Alicent I can say that both have made choices that they regret doing. But they think that they are the heroes of their own stories when in truth they are both very much the villains to the people around them and that is what lead them down the path towards the storm that is the Dance of Dragons(Gary knows what I speak of) and in the end Rhaenyra is power hungry and Alicent was a pawn and it is their hubris that sends them both and the people around them into an abyss. This is why I tell people to not get attached to any of these characters and soon enough you all wil find out.

@carlrood4457

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I don't see how people don't see the theme that Rhaenyra has had far more freedom of choice and action than Alicent has had. Alicent was ordered to marry an old man. Rhaneyra was at least given a chance to pick a husband and even when ordered, gets a guy her age that she actually likes as a person. One is having passionless sex with a decaying old man, while the other is banging hot young knights.

I remembered rolling my eyes when HotD was announced but I can happily say that I was very, very wrong. Excellent show.

ROP sounds like a perfect opportunity for a The Drinker Fixes episode. Considering the complete overhaul that it would need, you should bring in all these guys to help

Am i the only person who thinks HOTD is just passably barely, but ROP is just so bloody bad it makes HOTD look like genius???

@greycat930

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I kinda like it but regardless of the terrible ROP, I really wish they had comedy like in the original, oh wait you can actually have funny stuff in a show like that and not just a actual comedy? Omg. Also it’s very hard to root for like any character other then The King or anyone else. Also it would have been better if they got stuff happening a bit more like Damien doing some coup to get rid of Vehsarys, or some other issue like some Lords in Westeros are disgruntled with land or something, and not the same fucking bad guys in Essos all the time. Also it would been better to maybe see the commoner perspective like in the original. That’s all.

Was the guy behind House of the Dragon the one Amazon let go from the Conan project?

@daemontarg000

Жыл бұрын

Yes Ryan Condal

The point about the men in RoP is very interesting. It actually contradicts the Simarillion. Tolkien describes the men of Numenor as standing over six foot and possesing great athleticism due to their elvish heritage. Coupled with this the soldiers are highly trained and technically very skilled coupled with that domaneering physical prowess. These guys terrified Sauron and if they looked and acted as described one can see why.

Good video. Sixteen minutes in of episode 1 of House of the Dragon and I was already more invested than after watching two episodes of Rings of Power

California: Why can't Rhaenyra sleep with everyone?

Because its actually good and even the bad parts can't be worse than the Rings of Power!

i mean i kinda knew Damon wasn't evil when he only beat the shit out of the messenger instead of killing him. In Westeros that's actually a nicer noble

two minutes of otto talking down to daemon and his usual shenanigans in dragonstone was worth more than the whole season of whatever the fuck rings of power is supposed to be

I agree that they are all grey, but to me personally Rhaenyra is far brighter grey than Alisont. Especially after the confrontation at driftmark. The queen is so caught up in that future looming threat to her children that she would take the eye of a small child that defended his siblings and cousins. She is beyond reason at times and that what makes her pretty dark grey to me. Rhaenyra made it clear that she will pursue her own fullfilled life and kinda screw with the common rules but still she looks out for the people around her. There was no way she ever considered her half-brothers Aegon and Aemond some obstacle to remove if everyone would just chill tf out. Alisont on the other hand was about to maim a 5 year old with a knife.

@JustTooDamnHonest

Жыл бұрын

Oh my sweet summer child. You couldn’t be any more wrong about Rhaenyra. Oh do not give me wrong when she was younger much like Alicent they were innocent but it was the events that surrounded them that lead them to that point. In the end both of them were at fault and it was their own hubris that lead to the civil war that is to come in the show and during those time a family member would go so far as to kill another family member for power and ever since she was made the heir apparent by King Viserys she has become more and more power hungry and entitled and does see as Aegon II as an obstacle and Alicent warned her eldest son about that set up the path that would lead down to the massive storm that is coming. This is why after the first episode. I would warn anyone to not get attached to any of these characters and you will find out later on.

@svenr.3803

Жыл бұрын

@@JustTooDamnHonest ​ You realize that I havent read the book right? So I judge them purely on what happened thus far. Characters might be forced to shift their approach with time but right now Alisont has done way worse shit than Rhaenyra. Not to mention that Rhaenyra lost her best friend and confidant to HER FATHER. Her half-silblings are born by her former bff... thats some fuuuucked up shit

@ievgengorniak7045

Жыл бұрын

Let me provide alternative perspective. >>>The queen is so caught up in that future looming threat to her children Thing is that for her that future seems very, very real. The realm will have very hard time accepting Rhaenyra, because of her gender, and apparent illegitimacy of her children. And when your grip on the power is weak, you may be forced to remove your "alternatives", by any means, because a lot of support naturally gather around them. And Alisent can not believe the princess, after "I swear on my mother" oath was broken. >>>small child that defended his siblings and cousins Girls wasn't in any danger at that point, and even danger to his brother is debatable, as Aemond had his face full of sand. Moreover it was them who initiated that conflict, and they used weapon first. Alisent kid also escalated a lot but mostly with words, abet very harsh ones. >>>Alisont on the other hand was about to maim a 5 year old with a knife Her son just got permanently disfigured, Alisent asked for perpetrator to be punished and received NOTHING. Eye for an eye is common enough in Westeros (1st episode in HotD, and butcher boy in GoT) to expect such justice here, but even if we think it's to harsh, SOME punishment is clearly due. Only after she is refused, her feelings overcome her and remembering how mothers react when their kids are hurt, her actions is not THAT crazy, pretty extreme as they are. And remember that Alisents whole deal is that she accepted her duty, connected her life with person she had very limited sympathy for, produced children, was exemplary wife and all. While Rhaenyra refuses to marry until commanded to, loses virginity villy-nilly, birth 3 painfully obvious bastards (which WILL destabilize realm when their time to inherit comes), in other words does whatever she wants without thinking about her duty, realm and political stability. And uses her fathers favor to avoid punishment for herself and her children. Don't get me wrong, Alisent is far from perfect herself, but I find her perspective a bit more reasonable then Rhaenyras.

@svenr.3803

Жыл бұрын

@@ievgengorniak7045 ​ Well I dont. I see Rhaenyras shortcomings and wrong doings but to me they arent to spite someone. You made some solid points overall but leaving out the provocation by Alisont or her children for all of it. Aemond provocated a grieving relative into physical confrontation, punched way smaller children in the face, called his cousins bastards and only then the knife was drawn. He used a rock to threaten a 5 year old and then the boys fought for their lifes pretty much. You actually wanna take the 5 year olds eye too for this? Alright then. Not even in Westeros that kind of demand is anywhere near reasonable. Your fuckind child lost the fight he provoked well knowing the feelings involving Laena and Vhagar. Out of spite. He got his upcoming for it. Tough luck. It could have gone the other way and he could have smashed one of the boys head in by accident. Then what? Would Alisont agree that her sons head should be smashed in in return? Give me a break

@ievgengorniak7045

Жыл бұрын

@@svenr.3803 Let me clarify. "I" don't think taking childs eye as retaliation is reasonable in any way. But we had similar thing applied by Robert to butchers son in (I think) S01E02 of GoT. You can argue that Luc(Jace?) is very young and noble so same logic would not apply, but it isn't clear from what we have seen of this world. Let us not forget that first Rhaenyra suggests that Aemond should be "sharply questioned" which is code words for, you know, torture. This may be cope, but I see Alisents relatively satisfied by lesser punishment, only requesting maximal applicable after king told everyone to basically "hug it out". Regarding kids fight. Aemond, being little dick that he is, certainly has his part in escalation, rewaching scene (internet debates, am I right?) I picked up that he uses stone earlier than knife is drawn, so my mistake here. He is still was attacked first, 1v4, and does not seem to punch with serious intent to hurt, mostly retaliates, and gloats over his temporary advantage. And girls are relatively close in age to him, if I am not mistaken. In my mind he has relatively strong case of self defense, but ultimately it does not matter, as adults later do not engage with this level of details. >>>Your fuckind child lost the fight he provoked well knowing the feelings involving Laena and Vhagar. Out of spite. Tough luck. Did he really know though? And even then he correctly states that if she wanted that dragon she should have taken it. You know, tough luck. And it isn't purely out of spite, he is clearly riding high on adrenaline and is not prepared to deal with any level of criticism. Charitable reading of the scene even suggest that first offensive pig comments is brought up by presence of Strong boys who was not kind to him earlier. >>>He got his upcoming for it. So taking child eye as literal eye for an eye is bad, but another child deserved his eye injury for mean words? >>>It could have gone the other way and he could have smashed one of the boys head in by accident. Then what? Would Alisont agree that her sons head should be smashed in in return? Give me a break Fair point, she most certainly would not. I think she would be fine with liter punishment, maybe even suggested it herself, but at this point in conflict probably not. But you must agree though, that having zero actions taken against perpetrators who did ambush him, attacked first and permanently maimed him must sting immensely. Even if you were behaving otherwise in reversed positions.

House of the dragon has been good since the opening act. It took a couple of episodes to trust it, yet at this point it’s phenomenal. It’s also fortunate to be art surrounded by failures all over the place. She Hulk, Rings of Power, Andor, Love and Thunder, the Woman King, don’t worry darling, miss marvel, Brose, etc.

@AdderTude

Жыл бұрын

Andor is actually not bad.

@GreenFalcon926

Жыл бұрын

Andor isn't a failure....

@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623

Жыл бұрын

@@GreenFalcon926 Depends on your definition of a failure. As Star Wars it's a failure. It's not Star Wars, which is supposed to be a space opera, not a Cold War spy thriller in space. As a Cold War spy thriller in space it's probably not bad. But who gives a f***. It's from Disney Star Wars so I don't give a f***. They could make the bestest Star Wars evah, and I still wouldn't give a f***, I have been called a racist, a sexist, an ist and a phobe by a company which should be kissing my ass to get my money. As the customer used to be always right. Without respect we reject, and if we do not reject, we will never get any respect.

@outbobthelaw2248

Жыл бұрын

@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 star wars can be expanded, it isn't supposed to be just a space opera.

@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623

Жыл бұрын

@@outbobthelaw2248 It IS supposed to be a space opera. That is at the heart of Star Wars. Now you can try to expand it to become a Cold War spy thriller in space, but it won't catch the general public's imagination. Because that is what differentiates Star Wars from Star Trek. Star Trek is more nitty gritty, more sciencesy, more cerebral. Star Trek is not dumb action, that is why Jar Jar Trek ultimately failed. Star Wars is larger then life, and when you try to shrink it down to cerebral nitty and gritty ultimately it will not do well. And the creators will ultimately resort to bringing in the wizards with laser swords to make it do well again. After all, what made Rogue One stand out? A wizard with a laser sword going berserk at the end.

Hey its nice to see the voice nehind Baggage Claim. Keep up your work!

House of the Dragon, you cannot even tell who is the protagonist and antagonist. Great job, Game of Thrones!

Some have criticised the lack of sympathetic protagonists but the plus side is it adds to realism. This is a brutal world they live in. One of the good things about GOT is early on anyway, all the characters had dark aspects to them.

@reiudfgq3vrh34ur

Жыл бұрын

viserys is def a sympathetic character and allicent to a certain extent(at least as of now)

@daquaviousbingleton9763

Жыл бұрын

most of the criticism is from people who like superhero movies and need someone to cheer for this isnt that type of show but obviously you had jon snow ned etc etc in game of thrones thats why i think this show shouldn't have cut Daeron

I had no idea this was a whole other channel. These are great.

That Blackwood kid could solo Numenor.

Does Mauler do anything else besides the rare KZread and this podcast? I’d like to see more of his content.

@captbuckyohare5585

Жыл бұрын

Is this sarcasm? This feels like sarcasm. But if not, you can also find Mauler every Friday/Saturday with his own EFAP crew on his channel, where he also puts out edited, slick, single videos that are longer than an entire Disney + show that just so happen to dissect why those very shows are crimes against humanity. When he's not doing God's work, he's also on the Real BBC every Tuesday with Az and Nerdrotic and Nina Infinity where they chat about crumpets and life behind bars. He does Open Bar on Thursdays, occasionally Friday Night Tights on Fridays, and when he's not doing guest streams I'm pretty sure he goes into the local woods looking for bears to punch.

It’s humorous to think how I once anticipated RoP so greedily. Part of me always knew Bezos would COMPLETELY fuck it up just like he has. Shout out to Baggage Claim. You & your opinions/thoughts are 😎🖖.

4:36 Those "women for Trump" articles really poisoned the well against Alicent

And they haven’t even introduced Grown-up Aemond yet. Another badass male character that can equal Daemon. Can’t wait for that dude

The best way to describe Rings of Power is “dainty”. Everything- the characters, acting, story, presentation, etc- feels delicate and fragile.

@jamesclapp6832

Жыл бұрын

It's gay.

@patrickdezenzio4988

Жыл бұрын

That's the definition of a snowflake.

@pooloftim8263

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesclapp6832 “Dainty, feminine, and really f*ckin gay!!”

I love how Alicent and Rhaenyra are basically foils- both daughters of nobility but one act out of duty and the other one acts out of personal feeling. Also sidenote that the Azor Ahai reference in episode 1 caught me way off guard and haven't seen people talking about it

@korawitbuttramee618

Жыл бұрын

HotD is a rivalry because a daughter who was spoiled by her father and a daughter who lived her live under her father's control

I wrote a 1-star review for Rings or Power, citing my complaints in a blunt but respectful way. They deleted my review saying it contained "inappropriate content." Amazon is in full-on damage control mode and it involves censorship of reviews now!

Drinker might be referring to Rudyard Kipling’s ‘If…’ Seems that the HoD writers had that poem on hand while RoP’s long streaks of widdle probably didn’t get the memo.

All comes down to writing and casting. Except for the Scot who plays Durin, the rest are a bunch of C listers at best, who couldn’t act their way out of a wet paper bag. Almost as bad as that woman who played Reeeva bad!!! The same would’ve happened in PJ’s LOTR. Could you imagine anyone other than Orlando Bloom, John-Rys Davis or Viggo Mortensen playing their respective characters??? Had Stuart Townsend played Aragorn(which he did for one full day!), it would’ve been an epic mess, since he was an entitled dweeb onset. Same with Blanchet, who was born to play Galadriel, unlike this miserable muppet pretending to be Shakespearean lol???

@patrickdezenzio4988

Жыл бұрын

Or can you imagine anyone else than Ian McKellen playing Gandalf?

House of the Dragon is inspired by real English history and it really shows. I thought HoTD would be woke but apart from some casting choices it really hasn't been. It's a very good show.

A man needs to be a beast who has self control and generally makes good decisions, and is generous and productive enough.

@Hero_Of_Old

Жыл бұрын

The cultured thug.

October 13, 2022 - Regarding some the points this panel made. 1) Most of the people that are watching fantasy and Sci-Fi films and TV series are young, and really haven't experienced the rough and tumble of life yet. They have no idea as to what is like to make life changing decisions, or how to deal with people. Their vision of the world and of good and evil. Are based on what they see in film and TV entertainment productions in which characters are rarely complicated. They are either bad or good. 2) When it comes to national and international power struggles. Few people realize or know how devious and under handed people in power can be. 3) Many people have a totally unrealistic view of History, thanks to a terrible education system, and the entertainment industry's "dramatizations" of historical events and people. Few people, (especially those that feel history began with their births), have any idea as to how various societies were constructed. For example, why it was so important for a wealthy family with a daughter of marrying age, to be a virgin or at least thought to be one. As the saying goes.. "Never look to Hollywood for an honest portrayal of real History".

🖤 *DAEMON* *VS.* *AEMOND* 💚 *(SPOILERS)* GRRM's favorite Targaryen from his books is Daemon. He said this multiple times. The Battle Above The Gods Eye is a very famous scene like Obi-Wan vs. Anakin in Mustafar that happens in the books and it essentially ends the Dance. Is Aemond like Cindy Brady? A tattletale? "Mom, Aegon pranked me! Aegon started the bastard rumors!” Some Chad beating up smaller kids and snitching Aegon twice. No wonder we see rats when Viserys was smashing Alicent in Ep 4. That's the night Aemond was getting conceived. Aegon took that public blame like a man. To the new Aemond stans, I feel bad for your boy. And I do mean boy. His most notable kill is a boy who didn't go there to fight? Some badass when Daemon's daughter knocked him down and he snitches on his bro. GRRM is not changing that Gods Eye result. Say hello to Dark Sister, and I don't mean Baela or Rhaena. Daemon is going to have one of the greatest, most heroic, and most bad*ss "exits" in TV history. Helaena: He'll have to close an eye. Daemon: Duly noted. 👁️🗡️🎯

@aemonddaemon8975

Жыл бұрын

I see you all over saying Daemon survived and yet you never give any proof on how it could have happened. From what I can gather you too are a "stan" but a "Daemon stan" and you too are in delusion about your favourite characters fate. If he survived that fight then tell me how did it happen where is the proof?? There is no mention of him walking away, he's never seen mourning his dragon, returning to Nettles, Rhaenrya or going after Aegon. I have to ask as well is every historian just a retard and we should instead trust tales of singers and their fan fiction?

@stupidhandles

Жыл бұрын

He was covering for his mum when he blamed his brother

House of the dragon is better than Rings of Power but that’s not saying much it’s definitely not better than any part of Game Of Thrones just my opinion

Wish you guys would do short form (20ish minutes) reviews on each episode.

As a girl i really enjoy Daemon as he is so mancho, I hope he has alot more screen time, also liking aemond

tbh i don't even think a man HAS to be big and muscular. a man is primarily defined by his actions, not his looks. what is really missing is manly actions. i think legolas was pretty damn manly in the trilogy even despite looking almost like a woman.

@AndrewThoesen

Жыл бұрын

Is it manly to be able to no-scope an orc while surfing down a staircase? I would say yes but you decide.

@Baso-sama

Жыл бұрын

@@AndrewThoesen yes, that is what makes him manly. because he is not burly, nor does he have a beard. even his hair is long, fluffy and fabulous like a woman's hair. don't care though, what he does is manly as fuck.

When Daemon killed his first wife, he lost me. No redeeming qualities here. A thoroughly well-done evil guy.

@Eagle-eye-pie

Жыл бұрын

If only he would utter a full sentence from time to time.

When was this livestream? Never saw it in my feed and don't see a VoD either.

There's a video called "sacrificial trash" about the internet culture and high guardian spices animated show, it's an interesting video by Sarah z and I wanted a question about your honest thoughts on it.

*SPOILER* *ALERT* I keep reading that Aemond is a huge highlight in Episode 8. Bravo to Ewan Mitchell. I think this episode really starts the war. Aemond kills Lucerys. I thought Jace deserves payback from Aemond because he was the one who brought out the knife and is closer to his age. We need a fight between Aemond vs. Baela. *Aemond* *is* *Walmart* *Daemon.* Keep repeating that to yourself and laugh at the tweets that says he's an upgrade from the original. He couldn't beat the OG, did he? But Daemon and Aemond are the only badasses in this series since Harwin is dead and Criston became a salty incel. So we are left picking Daemon or/and Aemond and I'm ok with that. Love them both. Laughable to me from TV only fans rooting for the Greens because they hate Rhaenyra or from Republicans (which I am) thinking he's an actual upgrade from Daemon. GRRM will NOT alter the fate of his favorite Targaryen and watch him lose to a tattletale nephew with a blind spot. It's like Luke Skywalker losing to Darth Vader in The Empire Strikes Back. In the show, Aemond has thrown his older brother under the bus twice. No wonder when Viserys was smashing Alicent in Ep 4, we see rats. But with good performances from Ewan, Aemond can reach my 2nd spot. He'll just never be greater than Daemon the way Kylo Ren was never greater than Vader as Rey said to him or Luke never really surpassing Anakin's power. Aemond was the best of his generation among fighters and was on the biggest dragon and he still couldn't kill his uncle. That's like Michael Jordan beating Kobe Bryant 1-on-1. I can't wait when Team Green watches the moment Daemon thrusts Dark Sister into Aemond's right-eye. The Green fans will scream, BIAS! BIAS! Even though we know damn well that's how it's written. None of us can avoid spoilers anyway. Even newer movies, KZreadrs like disGrace Randolph will spoil stuff like Wanda being the villain in Multiverse of Madness several months ahead. If say HOT D finishes by 2028 with a new season every other year, you are bound to read book spoilers in the comments. It's just inevitable. So listen to the Fire & Blood audiobook because you will hear or read spoilers for the next 6 years. I knew Aemond was going to lose an eye the moment he "parked" Vhagar. Even when it happened, I still gasped like, OMG! I knew Anakin would lose to Obi-Wan in ROTS. For years, we all knew they would fight in Mustafar. And once we all saw it, it was still heartbreaking to watch. It's not that bad knowing in advance since scenes can still move us and TV writers will alter events that will surprise us like they did for Laenor. Many book readers knew The Red Wedding was coming and were still in shock and crying when it finally happened. Enjoyed reading this one Reddit comment. House Of The Dragon? They all live in sh-tty caves! The title is such a lie! 🤣

@aemonddaemon8975

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Your right GRRM will not alter Daemon's ending, he will kill Aemond and then either die on screen or it will be implied that he died and we'll get a few little words about how according to history he died that day and that'll be it

Jordan Petterson's view is you want a man to be a monster, but then know how to control it. A warrior in the garden, rather than a gardener on a battlefield.

@AndrewThoesen

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JPs view is also to OD on Benzos so you believe your own insanity 😎

i agree of course, HotD is so much better. i do have a problem with it however. Even though i enjoy watching it, there just isn't a character i particularly like. In the first season of GoT, i had more than one favorite guy or girl i could root for with all my heart, i was totally invested. Now i just don't feel that strong towards anyone. And with this fast pace, i don't think it will change. Why the rush😞

If RoP didn't exist, people would be ripping HotD a new one because it's bad. It's just that RoP is much worse. Kind of like a situation where one guy pushes the other toward the hungry tiger and makes a run for it.

ROP is at best a poor to mediocre fantasy show with the thinnest veneer of Tolkien badly pasted over the top. At worst it's actively malicious towards Tolkien and Tolkien fans and seeks to undermine everything he cared about.

@AdderTude

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And Simon Tolkien is apparently happy with it. Dude's a clown.

Rheynera is legitimately a really bad person and when the Civil War starts it will be her fault, and I love that kind of character and I love how they are not trying to make her seem like the good guy

@TeutonicKnight92

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It’s not her fault. She is the legal heir and Alicient and Cole crown a usurper. While Rheynera and her children are alive Aegon has no right to the throne. Neither of the sides in the Dance are the “good” guys nor are they “bad.”

@JustTooDamnHonest

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That’s why I told people ever since the first episode to not get attached to any of these characters and I mean none of them and the lead up to the civil war and after will reveal why I warned them.