Drarry Vs. J.K. Rowling: A Fandom in Crisis

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This is my first video essay & I had a lot of fun with it!

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  • @rainbowkittyz145
    @rainbowkittyz14517 күн бұрын

    I think the series should have ended with Harry as a defense against the dark arts teacher, it just makes so much more sense for his character

  • @benfleishman2944

    @benfleishman2944

    10 күн бұрын

    Pretty sure the epilogue doesn’t even say who it is however many years later 😂 The copaganda is crazy

  • @JulianGreystoke
    @JulianGreystokeАй бұрын

    My new favorite type of KZread video is queer folks dissecting Harry Potter and the culture around it. For once the algorithm has brought me what I wanted!

  • @BackupChannel-nq6fg

    @BackupChannel-nq6fg

    21 күн бұрын

    Same. Its such an oddly specific type of video i enjoy now

  • @cthulhutheendless1587

    @cthulhutheendless1587

    20 күн бұрын

    Have any more recommendations of similar vids?

  • @GentlethemJoey

    @GentlethemJoey

    20 күн бұрын

    SAME.

  • @wattthefaqameye1146

    @wattthefaqameye1146

    18 күн бұрын

    Omg Julian!

  • @CatHasOpinions734

    @CatHasOpinions734

    18 күн бұрын

    ​@@cthulhutheendless1587 if you like in-depth analysis, I recommend Lily Simpson's "A Brief Look at Harry Potter" (alternate title: Harry Potter and the Intimidating Timestamp). Do heed her warning about not necessarily trying to watch the whole thing at once, use the chapters, etc., but if you like long-form content, you are in for an absolute feast! Hoots also has one, as does Shaun, though idk if he's queer or just a vocal ally.

  • @leosun444
    @leosun444Ай бұрын

    I also think that contributing to the decline of Drarry fanfiction is the growth of the Maurauders fandom and therefore the growth of Jegulus (James Potter/Regulus Black), a ship that is paralleled in a way to Drarry.

  • @arcticg7644

    @arcticg7644

    27 күн бұрын

    The ethos of the Mauraders fandom in general seems to be in the “fuck it” category as seen in this video. As far as Jegulus goes, it’s also very popular to depict Regulus as a trans man as an extra screw you to Rowling.

  • @cookiecat7759

    @cookiecat7759

    23 күн бұрын

    @@arcticg7644 i love that honestly

  • @viking-astronaut

    @viking-astronaut

    21 күн бұрын

    the actual parallel would be james/snape tho? james and regulus never even interacted. meanwhile james and draco were pureblood bullies who looked down on snape and harry who came from muggle households Draco Malfoy in Philospher’s Stone: “Imagine being in Hufflepuff, I think I’d leave, wouldn’t you?” James Potter in Deathly Hallows: “Who wants to be in Slytherin? I think I’d leave, wouldn’t you?” Both also start their bullying on their first trainride to Hogwarts. The text literally directly compares james to draco.

  • @sadfrown

    @sadfrown

    20 күн бұрын

    @@viking-astronaut yeah good point. Interestingly James/Regulus is a lot more popular than James/Snape (15k vrs 1.2k fics on Ao3 rn) idk why maybe some ppl just don't like Snape lol

  • @linneathesystemsdruid308

    @linneathesystemsdruid308

    19 күн бұрын

    I was actually thinking about this, especially because the marauders fandom inherently exists in a world which ignores canon. And it’s also very widely agreed that it’s queer, like it’s hard to find heterosexual marauders fanfic in my experience.

  • @rosaliecarlson3525
    @rosaliecarlson352520 күн бұрын

    Good news from a stats teacher - constantly hedging your claims and pointing out they're uncertain is like, the main thing we want you to take away from that class.

  • @eastgalaxy6477
    @eastgalaxy647721 күн бұрын

    Honestly, reclaiming the characters for ourselves, disassociating JK from "her" characters and turning them into everything she hates, is the best revenge possible for how she has ruined so many people's childhoods.

  • @tgiacin435

    @tgiacin435

    21 күн бұрын

    Oh yeah, you’re totally sticking it to her. Not like gender bending characters wasn’t already a thing.

  • @amazingspiderlad

    @amazingspiderlad

    19 күн бұрын

    Trust me, it isn't. For as long as you're still talking about harry potter and consuming the media, you're still supporting her. It doesn't matter if you don't see it that way, she does.

  • @Kaminoboi

    @Kaminoboi

    19 күн бұрын

    Nah she’s already rich you can keep buying the stuff just make trans Harry Potter ocs

  • @amazingspiderlad

    @amazingspiderlad

    19 күн бұрын

    @@Kaminoboi No, please do not keep buying harry potter stuff. She has EXPLICITLY said that she sees people buying her stuff as an agreement with her views.

  • @blueumbrella-nr4ku

    @blueumbrella-nr4ku

    19 күн бұрын

    @@amazingspiderlad Doesn't she also donate some of her money to transphobic organizations?

  • @valerielaurence
    @valerielaurence19 күн бұрын

    One thing I particularly enjoy about the HP fandom is how the "fuck-its" created our own magical world with the Marauders as soon as she came out as a transphobe. Like fuck it. She's tainted her own work, but she hasn't tainted ours. And the Marauders and their queer magical universe are ours, now. That's why I think Drarry fandom is less popular nowadays. To keep your metaphor; we kept our sandbox, but put entirely new sand in it. I sincerely wonder how many Drarry authors are now Jegulus authors. It has the same enemies to lovers vibes, and the same hero-loved-by-everyone vs the-misunderstood-kid-from-a-bigoted-family characters. 🤔

  • @rikkirikki4892

    @rikkirikki4892

    18 күн бұрын

    I need some recs for “classic”, novel length Jegulus. My love of Drarry fic is rooted in the fact that it improves on an existing premise that could have been so reflective and interesting if the author was only, y’know, not terrible. Haha. I’ve dipped my toes into Marauders fic but I haven’t seen anything light a candle to fics like TURN or The Man Who Lived. I’m sure I’m just not entrenched enough though!

  • @valerielaurence

    @valerielaurence

    18 күн бұрын

    ​@@rikkirikki4892 I'm sincerely not the one who can suggest you any Jegulus fanfics. I'm more of a Wolfstar girlie lol. But the novel-length one I know people really really love is "Choices" by Messermoon on AO3 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @southeresidentdumbass5937

    @southeresidentdumbass5937

    18 күн бұрын

    I'm still with the Drarry side of things, but honestly at this point these two might as well be my OCs

  • @avryantoinette

    @avryantoinette

    18 күн бұрын

    Honestly, I've never been able to get into Marauder's. It's not just the "vibes" I like; I really like the characters. There's something about Drarry that says "take Rowling's main character and have him deconstruct her entire mythos and conceptions and also fall in love with the guy she accidentally wrote as very gay" that really gets me lol

  • @avryantoinette

    @avryantoinette

    18 күн бұрын

    @@jokerdanny9255 Okay. Have a good day

  • @thecatlurking
    @thecatlurking19 күн бұрын

    Every year I have a little Drarry Summer where I go reread all my old favorite fics and dive into the tag for new ones. My favorite genre is post-series Harry and Draco meeting again as adults (after a lot of personal growth and reflection) to find that the other has a lot of hidden depths to them, sparking a slow-burn romance against a sprawling backdrop that really fleshes out the wizarding world.

  • @shoe3251

    @shoe3251

    18 күн бұрын

    I also do this! You might like “Parallax” by nevillenobottom on Ao3. It takes place after the war; Harry is an elementary school teacher and teaches Draco’s son. (It’s enemies to lovers.) I also like “We Can Be Pirates” by cowboilikeme (Ao3) and “My Safest Sound” by ElenandTara (Ao3), but these take place while they are still teenagers.

  • @taebear3185

    @taebear3185

    18 күн бұрын

    @@shoe3251 im reading my safest sound right now!! its rly interesting with how it writes harrys emotional turmoil in 5th yr

  • @cal6137

    @cal6137

    18 күн бұрын

    Turn by saras girl 😔

  • @taebear3185

    @taebear3185

    17 күн бұрын

    @@cal6137 OH MY GOD DONT REMIND ME THE FEELINGS THAT FIC INSITES IN ME I WANT THE WHOLE BOOK TATTOOED ON MY CHEST I LOVE IT LOVE ITTT I SAY

  • @MelioraBliss

    @MelioraBliss

    14 күн бұрын

    I do this as well! I'm not a huge fan of drarry fics set during the course of the books, but I LOVE post-series where both of them have been allowed to grow and mature and be able to see each other beyond school rivals/bully

  • @phtogrphic
    @phtogrphic23 күн бұрын

    The role playing warrior cats online was such a severe callout help 😭😭😭😭

  • @vlad5042

    @vlad5042

    21 күн бұрын

    any time in my adult life someone mentions warrior cats my vision whites out and my ears ring and suddenly im squirrelhands or whatever and im running thru the forest chasing rabbits and stuff

  • @sarcomeresarecool

    @sarcomeresarecool

    20 күн бұрын

    I was expecting that sentence to end with something about, like, being on the playground... aka where *I* role played warrior cats in elementary school 😂

  • @Kaminoboi

    @Kaminoboi

    19 күн бұрын

    It’s a better fandom than Harry Potter

  • @curnies

    @curnies

    18 күн бұрын

    @@vlad5042lmfaoooo, yeah, this

  • @thornowl6368

    @thornowl6368

    18 күн бұрын

    i felt called out because i still rp warrior cats. i'm in my mid 20s btw

  • @GentlethemJoey
    @GentlethemJoey20 күн бұрын

    Gay fanfiction was so important to me a closeted lil kid in the 2000s. I learned so much. Lmao.

  • @GentlethemJoey

    @GentlethemJoey

    20 күн бұрын

    Drarry was my intro, I loved them so dearly, but now I’m all about Remus/Sirius.

  • @-eight-

    @-eight-

    15 күн бұрын

    Same! I wasn’t even able to admit in my own head that I was queer until I found slashfiction. I had buried it so deep that I needed those stories to help me shift all the dirt. I hadn’t realized that queer love could be so normal and beautiful and compelling and GOOD until I saw it written out. It had always been made to seem so alien and unnatural that I couldn’t find myself in the things I’d heard. But I could find myself in the stories that other people had lovingly crafted and that made all the difference.

  • @LiliannEnder

    @LiliannEnder

    4 сағат бұрын

    ​@@GentlethemJoey oh my god, I knew I wasn't the only one :O

  • @maggieheikes4730
    @maggieheikes473022 күн бұрын

    Great essay, but arguably more impressive for a first video: great accessibility! I'm so used to having to rely on auto-generated captions for my auditory processing issues and you actually have a transcript and closed captioning. You have a dedicated fan now

  • @elievileye

    @elievileye

    22 күн бұрын

    I use captions on every video I watch, so they are super important to me!

  • @Cullyxe

    @Cullyxe

    20 күн бұрын

    Wth this is your first video??? That realisation gave me whiplash rofl You did amazing. Your voice is rly nice to listen to as well!

  • @Amy-ig1su
    @Amy-ig1su27 күн бұрын

    Absolutely devastated to click on your page to see this is your only video. Hope to see more from you!!

  • @CHEESEPUFF_7

    @CHEESEPUFF_7

    21 күн бұрын

    Same here

  • @dklee.01

    @dklee.01

    20 күн бұрын

    same !! i subscribed 👀

  • @snowpawwildcraft6276

    @snowpawwildcraft6276

    20 күн бұрын

    Same here, essay so good I forgot I was watching a small channel AHHA

  • @MovieEggman
    @MovieEggman19 күн бұрын

    I still find it hilarious that JKR is legitimately ignoring the moral messages of her own work that teaches children to not be a bigot.

  • @yoonahkang7384

    @yoonahkang7384

    18 күн бұрын

    Right wing people tend to be like that. They think they are super good people because they are not openly racist or in her case, feminist, when theres a far larger list of people who are discriminated and under represented in media

  • @andreagriffiths3512
    @andreagriffiths351222 күн бұрын

    I can totally see Luna as being Ace.

  • @deadphoenixrising

    @deadphoenixrising

    18 күн бұрын

    I always write her as autistic and ace because she was my comfort space as a kid who was slowly realising I was autistic and ace.

  • @andreagriffiths3512

    @andreagriffiths3512

    18 күн бұрын

    @@deadphoenixrising happy you figured yourself out young. My own ASD and Ace journey started much later. Honestly you shouldn’t have to be between 40-50 like me to have yourself figured out.

  • @vvivacious101
    @vvivacious10119 күн бұрын

    I love that Fangirl is just sitting in the background of a video on Drarry.

  • @belnimue7951
    @belnimue795122 күн бұрын

    Drarry fans are sooo detached from the epilogue that I remember reading Drarry EWE before finishing the last book (I was at my peak obsession with the ship). I still get amazed with the author (and lots of fans) defending Snape, a grown man abuser, as a hero (????), while Draco, a mean KID, clearly is forever doomed 😮

  • @andreagriffiths3512
    @andreagriffiths351222 күн бұрын

    I feel that a large part of the HP fandom have basically said Fuck It - JKR taught all of us to stand against tyranny, bigotry, bullying etc. we learned to stand up for those weaker than ourselves, to be true to what is right even if it meant going against friends. Being accepting of those marginalised and penalised for things beyond their control. As such, we have taken HP and are guarding it, using what we were taught against the very person who taught us. We know better and are better! We do better! We are inclusive and supportive of all people regardless of gender identity, sexuality or race. I cannot and will not hate a work that teaches us these valuable things but I cannot and will not be supportive of the author who clearly failed to learn the lessons her work taught so many of us.

  • @carnelian8434

    @carnelian8434

    21 күн бұрын

    @@SiriuslyPotty not reading all that, sorry you have transphobic brainrot

  • @tgiacin435

    @tgiacin435

    21 күн бұрын

    @@SiriuslyPottythe whole thing is a bit silly to me. People act like they’re getting this one up, but it’s pretty much lateral moves.

  • @wasserperson

    @wasserperson

    20 күн бұрын

    ​@@SiriuslyPotty 🤔🧐🤦🏻‍♂️. The person you're replying to said "a large part," not "the large part" They made no claim to majority or even plurality. They spoke of holding onto the value of the works & the community even in the face of the author's continuing venom. You whined about cancel culture... But *Rowling* is the one who got herself shunned by the likes of Neil Gaiman, Stephen King, and most of the cast of her own films. She's trumpeting fascists like Matt Walsh and Posey Parker. Maybe you're marching to their tune, in which case there's not much to say; the face eating leopards will eat your face too sooner or later. But maybe you're willing to check your assumptions, set aside your certainties. If so, there's plenty of videos that will connect the dots for you. And over time, JKR seems committed to being more & more direct about fearmongering & fantasies of power.

  • @KoruDesuKa

    @KoruDesuKa

    20 күн бұрын

    This comment made me tear up. Kudos. She did teach us the best fucking principles, even if she doesn’t live by them herself. Literally crying tho

  • @andreagriffiths3512

    @andreagriffiths3512

    19 күн бұрын

    @@wasserperson 💕💕💕💕 thank you

  • @PotterSwiftie
    @PotterSwiftie21 күн бұрын

    Now i want you to touch on the marauders fandom because there is a lot. It really is amazing how a fandom could create so much on characters barely mentioned by Rowling.

  • @katharineeavan9705
    @katharineeavan970521 күн бұрын

    Some very valid points made, but as someone in the UK I would urge people to look into the campaigning and financial backing Rowling does for transphobic causes in the UK, often using the continued popularity of her work as political currency. How much fanfic contributes or is taken into account in her dealings is up for debate, but Rowling herself has made public claims that every fan of her work supports her beliefs, and that some are just quiet about their support because they fear the wrath of the trans mafia. Though it's not easy to have these discussions about someone expressing problematic and harmful views, I would say the issue is a whole lot more fraught when you realise she's not just expressing views, she's genuinely influencing UK politics towards transphobia. Only recently she was a massive part in efforts to oppose progressive reforms to Scottish law, and she's literally friends with a former UK Prime Minister. She's got genuine power and influence over here, often fuelled by her perceived cultural power.

  • @tgiacin435

    @tgiacin435

    21 күн бұрын

    What progressive reforms to Scottish law?

  • @katharineeavan9705

    @katharineeavan9705

    21 күн бұрын

    @@tgiacin435 a bill designed to streamline the process for trans people to have their gender legally recognised. The bill originally passed in Scotland but was blocked by UK parliament in 2022. Scotland amended the bill a little and got it passed again recently, this time without UK parliament blocking it, but it was a very close thing, with J.K Rowling being a very visible, vocal and active part of campaigns calling on UK parliament to intercede again. And you have to remember she literally has personal relationships with UK politicians and throws a lot of money behind anti-trans campaigns and lobbyist groups, so her actions were a pretty significant part of the whole thing.

  • @tgiacin435

    @tgiacin435

    21 күн бұрын

    @@katharineeavan9705 and how do you streamline the process?

  • @brittanyg7700
    @brittanyg770024 күн бұрын

    I'm an asexual/demisexual lesbian in the "eff it" camp. I'm a multishipper and I greatly appreciate seeing various queer interpretations of all the characters. I can't leave the fandom, but I refuse spend money on any Harry Potter products or JKR books. I will not support her. She has no power over us in fandom. She can't stop us from creating trans Harry or trans Draco or trans any other character. She can't stop us from changing the sexuality of characters. She can't stop us from saving bad characters from their evil ways. She can't stop us from keeping our favorite characters alive. She can't stop us from pairing anyone and everyone together. She can't stop us from writing Drarry, Snarry, Tomarry, Harrymort, Ronarry, Wolfstar, Jegulus, Sirius/Severus, James/Severus or stop the Marauder niche as a whole. JKR will die forgotten in her bigotry, but our words and stories will live on to touch the hearts of young queers for decades, perhaps centuries after our deaths.

  • @Mayces_Irminsul

    @Mayces_Irminsul

    20 күн бұрын

    Thus why I found a PDF version of the complete series, and turned it into a word document. I have so many fandoms, that while I may have headcanons for them, I also like the canon story just fine; eg. Fairy Tail, Naruto, Percy Jackson. But I also have others that I just can't stand the canon anymore as I've gotten older, but still love the idea of it and the fics and other fandom shit.

  • @selycko2667
    @selycko266717 күн бұрын

    Wow. I can’t believe that the very first Drarry fic was posted exactly one year before I was born. I suddenly feel a crushing expectation to live my life differently

  • @cat_jk00
    @cat_jk0024 күн бұрын

    This is a fantastic little video from a criminally small channel, subbed for the algorithm EDIT: THIS IS YOUR FIRST ESSAY???? DUDE

  • @miarj1829
    @miarj182920 күн бұрын

    opened your channel to watch your other video essays because this one was so fire only to see that there are no others yet. hope youre working on solving this issue

  • @elievileye

    @elievileye

    20 күн бұрын

    I sure am!

  • @miarj1829

    @miarj1829

    20 күн бұрын

    @@elievileye good im waiting with my popcorn and critical thinking hat on

  • @kariscoyne1886
    @kariscoyne188620 күн бұрын

    Oh man. You said 'Guns n handcuffs' and I was instantly falcon punched back into 2007

  • @registeredjademark

    @registeredjademark

    19 күн бұрын

    Same lol, although the teen in the back of my mind muttered “*The S.S.* Guns n Handcuffs” So much wincing nostalgia through this one lol

  • @kj7067
    @kj706720 күн бұрын

    I was talking to a friend about this recently, who was more of the 'burner' persuasion. I made the argument that I completely understood trans folks who wanted to find some catharsis in reclaiming HP, but that I felt that I, as a cis person, should be held to a stricter standard - which is why I have stopped engaging with Potter-related material at all. Since I'm not the one who is most affected by her bigotry, I don't feel it should be up to me to decide that my engagement with the fandom is harmless. I don't personally think my views (or indeed my nostalgia) should matter here.

  • @VinceWhitacre
    @VinceWhitacre20 күн бұрын

    It's still hard for me to make sense of the fact that the person who wrote the "from which witch or wizard did you steal this wand?"/"the wand chose me, I am a witch!" turned out... well, as she turned out. Yeah, there's also plenty of red flags... but it sure does seem that one of the main themes of the books is that one is *not* defined by the circumstances of one's birth. I suppose there's no law that says an author has to understand their own books. 🤷 First video essay, huh? Well, you have another subscriber. Good work.

  • @cogsandcurls
    @cogsandcurls20 күн бұрын

    Brilliant first essay! I was never into Drarry but was deep in the Wolfstar trenches as a teen back in the noughties, and although my connection to the HP franchise is pretty much severed now (I guess I'd be one of the 'burners') it's very good to see younger generations of the fandom in the 'fuck it' camp critically engaging and taking what value they can from the work while dissecting or abandoning the bad bits. Feels like an evolution of of Wolfstar fandom's reaction to a lot of the 'no homo' text JK shoved into books 6 and 7. Great job :)

  • @pupdawn
    @pupdawn23 күн бұрын

    Amazing vid :) As a trans teen who grew up on Harry Potter I too find myself struggling to enjoy it the same way. But I will continue consuming fan creations and not give Joanne a dime

  • @danimcleanauthor
    @danimcleanauthor23 күн бұрын

    Dramione was never a ship I read, so I'd be curious to know if the fanfic writers challenged as much of the problematic aspects of JKR's writing as some of Drarry's have? Manacled being traditionally published makes me nervous, because it already was a large proponent of people printing and selling fanfic (already a no-no) and an influx of JKR press only ever brings misery.

  • @DisabledDoll
    @DisabledDoll19 күн бұрын

    Went through this with joss whedon. Only recently was able to enjoy Buffy and angel again. Took nearly ten years to emotionally separate him from his art b/c of how intertwined my love for the characters and for him as the creator had become over time. I wasn’t sure it would ever happen. I really thought he was someone to look up to as a kid and it was heartbreaking to learn I was so wrong about him

  • @meggg4213
    @meggg421321 күн бұрын

    this is INSANE for a new account, i love your style of delivery. can’t wait for more when you’re ready :))

  • @forgettableotaku
    @forgettableotakuАй бұрын

    this video was so good, especially for a first video essay. I am a trans man who was madly obsessed with harry potter as a kid. I wrote many fanfics and most of my creative writing for a long time was inspired by JKR's work. I have many tshirts I struggle to wear because they are harry potter related and don't want to be assumed to support jkr but also don't want to chuck out because that's wasteful. I haven't read the books in a few years now because it's just not something I can bring myself to do right now. and it sucks because for a long time Hogwarts was like a nice escape I could go to during hard times in my real life, but it's kinda hard to escape into a book written by someone who would prefer you stayed hidden in a cupboard under the stairs.

  • @ranchustars3050

    @ranchustars3050

    20 күн бұрын

    my suggestion for all those shirts is wear them inside only or as pyjamas

  • @forgettableotaku

    @forgettableotaku

    20 күн бұрын

    @@ranchustars3050 that's actually a good idea

  • @olived9560
    @olived956016 күн бұрын

    THIS WAS YOUR FIRST VIDEO ESSAY??? I could NOT tell, this is incredible! very in-depth analysis and the topic is so so interesting as well (the effect on specific communities not just the fandom as a whole), and done so well. Thank you!

  • @veeiris
    @veeirisАй бұрын

    this is on my recommended home page! surprised it's only your first video. i starting reading on ao3 a decade ago now and loved the scholomance series - i did not know naomi novik was one of the creators!! omg

  • @MaidenThailand
    @MaidenThailand18 күн бұрын

    This video has helped me to finally conclude that, no, I WON'T be guilted into leaving my home-fandom behind! You would think that as someone under the trans umbrella myself that I would understand right away that me still being part of the fandom doesn't mean I support Rowling's transphobia, but after being bombarded with "you're a bad person then/read another book" on Tumblr, I just felt so burnt out about it. I was just going to finish the last active HP fic I have and then just move over to MXTX's danmei full-time, but I'm SO raring to embrace 'Fuck it'! If the Cthulhu Mythos and the works of Charles Dickens can still be acceptable to enjoy to this day despite Lovecraft and Dickens being notoriously aggressive racists, I will not be shamed away from the fandom that taught me it was okay to be queer in the first place.

  • @tt-xf2nr

    @tt-xf2nr

    16 күн бұрын

    hell yeah!!!!!!

  • @zephemerality
    @zephemerality20 күн бұрын

    Awesome video. I think a lot of the rhetoric surrounding how to deal with Harry Potter (and works made by problematic creators in general) has become a bit reductive. As a trans person myself, I find it more valuable and compassionate to actually investigate why and how people still engage with these works. You did an incredibly thoughtful job of that here, and acknowledge all of the nuance that exists for people still creating within the fandom. There is no one right answer here, and I think that's an important thing to bring into consideration.

  • @jessehughes8274
    @jessehughes827420 күн бұрын

    "otherwise good and normal year 2020" destroyed me 😂

  • @ida8355
    @ida835520 күн бұрын

    For me I don’t like the OG series. Loved it as a child (especially the movies) but reread them a little later in life (before JK came out as a terf) and absolutely hated them. Despite this I have always viewed the series as having a lot of potential, especially after the canon timeline. The canon has frustrated me for years but I didn’t get into fanficton in general until last year and drarry fics earlier this year. I haven’t viewed myself as a Potter fan for like 10 years but I am now a HP fic fan, for me these are very different. Personally I don’t see an issue with liking the material so long as I don’t financially support JK in any way, which I don’t. All the best parts of canon is either strolled right past or bad in the OG series. Love fics, love drarry, love wolfstar, hate Harry Potter.

  • @darkphoenix9812

    @darkphoenix9812

    17 күн бұрын

    I really agree with this, as I am the same way - an HP fic/fandom fan, not an HP fan. There was so much that Rowling either did poorly or didn’t do at all with the book series that fanfic writers have done super well since (or maybe they’ve just explored a really interesting idea for how the story could be different). There are also a ton of ways to show appreciation for the characters and world without directly supporting J.K., which is what I do (I cosplay, but never use official merch for example).

  • @Junosensei
    @Junosensei19 күн бұрын

    I am one of those who spent maybe two years after Rowling outed herself as a transphobe gradually shifting from "Give her the benefit of the doubt, she's just ignorant but may come around" to "She's a transphobe for sure, but death of the author, I just won't buy official stuff" to "Everything HP makes me uncomfortable now". I thankfully found The Worst Witch and have redesignated a lot of my HP-related stuff into Worst Witch stuff. It's not near as popular or well-known, but it predates HP and has so many similarities (witches and wizards [in their own schools], castle school with [unnamed] houses, flying broomsticks, stern and unforgiving potions teacher, female Draco Malfoy, weird and dangerous magic, invisibility cloak mention, a [tv series-only] founder named "Hermoine", etc. etc.). I feel better about holding on to important keepsakes now.

  • @amdza
    @amdza22 күн бұрын

    Lord of the Rings has always been that place of imagination for me, but it wasn't until I was deep in that lull waiting between HP books 3 and 4 that I discovered fandom for the first time. The LOTR fandom is a lot more diverse nowadays, but 20+ years ago it was definitely dominated by men a lot older than me. Not only did Harry Potter introduce me to a life long love of fandom, but a community full of people of all ages, gender, sexual orientation, and cultures. I honestly thank fandom for making me who I am, because I know my conservative family never would have. It broke my heart when JK Rowling went on her rant, but I stand by the fact that the HP fandom are some of the most wonderful people I know. I definitely say fuck it! I won't let her take away our community.

  • @Kaminoboi

    @Kaminoboi

    19 күн бұрын

    It’s like that with the narnia and lovecraft fandoms now unfortunately

  • @SevenReads007
    @SevenReads00719 күн бұрын

    Definitely in the eff it category, I read the series 12 times as a kid, knocking out the first book in one sitting a couple times. I could escape into a world where I had power and opportunity, where a group of different people “weirdos” could all accept each other. I was an undiagnosed queer adhd-having chaos gremlin with a genius level iq at 9. I literally had one friend in elementary school and we became friends because she was the new kid from Arizona and the school bully was scared of her and I was nice (and desperate) and she was nice.

  • @teddieprox2307
    @teddieprox230718 күн бұрын

    Dude your voice is so smooth. I would listen to an audiobook voiced by you.

  • @astro-dragons
    @astro-dragons18 күн бұрын

    Fanfic has always been the Fuck-its, typically the older ones, the ones who like to use fanfic as a means of deconstruction. This is the camp I often find myself in, and often exploring what is wrong with the world has been a pivotal trend. For example, Harry’s abusive upbringing being tolerated by the people in charge. For me, what I’ve always wanted to dissect, were the issues with how female characters are portrayed in slash fanfiction. I’ve noticed it a lot in hp fanfiction recently, maybe because I’ve been reading a lot of them over the past two years. Still fantastic video essay! It’s interesting to discuss it, but I also feel like there could have been more, by reaching out to authors who were willing to discuss the topic with you. Still, regardless, great job!

  • @lolaopal8884
    @lolaopal8884Ай бұрын

    thank you so much for this!! i’m in the same boat as you regarding childhood obsession, down to thinking harry should have ended up as a teacher!! i was completely heartbroken in 2016 when trans people i followed on tumblr pointed out JKR liking terf tweets. i have often wished that i didn’t find out till later, because i was still definitely a kid when i found out, and i had just realised i was queer. your video is brilliant

  • @utatanepikoV5
    @utatanepikoV522 күн бұрын

    8:09 stevonnie steven universe came to the real world to speak facts

  • @mehlover
    @mehlover27 күн бұрын

    I'm so glad I found this video. I haven't been into Drarry in decades. It's great to learn more about the Drarry fandom and that some of it is still going. I like seeing fans reclaiming HP in spite of the Terf who must not be named lol I can't wait to see what else you'll make

  • @bigboopus5059
    @bigboopus505922 күн бұрын

    This is a great first video essay and an interesting academic perspective to take. In the case of problematic artists, I wonder if those most affected by the artist's harm should reclaim and reappropriate the creation from the creator rather than being made to sever all ties to the work. That way, the work can culturally retain it's positive position while sanitizing it of the, in this case, fascistic, bigoted and uninquisitive undertones. Those whom it touched and equally tried to harm can reclaim and voice themselves through culturally canonizing their framing. Sorry if that was nonsense, but great work.

  • @hanna-liminal
    @hanna-liminal18 күн бұрын

    One of my favourite types of fic to read is the ones where Hogwarts, magical school of magic, OBVIOUSLY offers trans-affirming healthcare to the kids that need it! Makes me smile every time :)

  • @loreanth6746
    @loreanth674623 күн бұрын

    Honestly super surprised to see this was your first video essay! It was a really well-written and insightful video, and I enjoyed your sense of humour greatly. I'm excited to see where you take this channel if you choose to do more!

  • @Lucy-ow1hl
    @Lucy-ow1hl19 күн бұрын

    just messaged my gf with a link to your video (she'd already seen it, and subscribed.) So much of what you say here rings so true and correct to me. I was in the trenches of hp fandom for a long time, but absolutely dropped off engaging after 2020 happened and the *really* bad stuff came out. It honestly just hurt too much. I have a sort of micro tumblr/discord community, called sortinghatchats, where we get a little more nuanced and interesting with the hogwarts houses, and I changed up all my terminology to distance it from HP and signal my disapproval with JKR's comments. But when I finally felt okay enough to dive into writing "fuck-it" fic - boy did it feel good, and cathartic, and healing, and necessary. Please do continue creating content. This is good stuff, and I'll be here watching.

  • @bandotaku
    @bandotaku23 күн бұрын

    First of all, awesome video! Great delivery, and I loved the topic. I would say I fall in the camp of a "fuck-it" but, I'm not very bold about it. When the dam broke in 2020, I spent a long time trying to see if I could be a burner. I wasn't as active in the fandom as I used to be, but I still held the world very close to my heart. I realized after a while that not only could I not do it, but I felt that hp at that point, had grown much bigger than her anyway.

  • @darkphoenix9812
    @darkphoenix981217 күн бұрын

    27:28 Fun fact, there is a crack fic series on AO3 that kinda follows a similar premise? Umbridge finds the series in the Room of Requirement one day and tries to use them to get Harry and his contingent expelled/out of her way - hilarity ensues. It’s called Dramatic Reading and was started by White_Squirrel (no pairings btw).

  • @amenkeshigomu6744
    @amenkeshigomu674422 күн бұрын

    Was Alexander Avila cosplay intentional? /Pos The video's awesome i love essays on fandom/queer culture, i love statistics and i love internet drama, this video combined all of that lol

  • @elievileye

    @elievileye

    22 күн бұрын

    it was not! i was actually wearing a graduation robe covered with trans pride pins on top of this getup until like two minutes before filming (to sort of give a “wizard robes” vibe) but i got too hot and last minute decided to take it off… and then totally ended up in alexander avila cosplay. didn’t realize until folks pointed it out in the comments but very flattered by the comparison, his channel rules

  • @-eight-
    @-eight-15 күн бұрын

    I’ll never understand the people who gave Harry Potter fans a hard time for struggling with how to engage with their favorite media in the wake of Rowling’s misadventures. I read HP as a kid and liked it, but Star Wars has always been my drug of choice. I can still remember how I felt watching the camera pan across that starscape for the first time and knowing with a child’s certainty that somehow, this thing had been made just for me, because it fit so perfectly in my heart. Harry Potter was that experience for these people. I can’t imagine the things I’d feel if Lucas still owned the rights and did what Rowling did. I already have to be more careful about my consumption now that Disney owns it, but she’s on a whole other level in terms of active harm to the queer community. It makes me wonder if the people who couldn’t understand why it was so hard for them have just never loved a piece of media that deeply, or if they just lack empathy. Things buried into the bedrock of your heart can’t just be dug out just because the creator did horrible things, and they shouldn’t have to be. It’s okay to just alter the ways you engage with it to just not give her money anymore. Plus that’s not even reckoning with the very real grieving process of not being able to view your favorite media with the same carefree and comforting lens now that this revelation has tainted it… I have a lot of feelings about this topic. Please let’s just be nicer to each other, okay?

  • @patravanhorn7271
    @patravanhorn727121 күн бұрын

    This was such an entertaining and interesting video, can’t wait to see what other stuff you may put out.

  • @kzoo4256
    @kzoo42567 күн бұрын

    I love this type of essays, they’re so relaxing and interesting

  • @darkphoenix9812
    @darkphoenix981217 күн бұрын

    Just got to the bit where you discuss not being able to know the fandom’s sentiments in 2020, but only now, about 4 years later. I am someone who read Drarry extremely often (like hundred of thousands of words a week, lol) from ~2016 through ~2022. I do still go back and read more occasionally, but I prefer long fics, and I’ve read most of the good ones on AO3 by now. So I do have some knowledge about what happened at the time, but I can only give my own experience. This would be a lot more difficult to search for and find statistical significance in, but I mostly saw the TERF rhetoric and Rowling in general discussed in author’s notes on AO3 at the time. There seemed to be a couple different general approaches on the AO3 authors’ parts - there were a number of authors that orphaned their Drarry works, some that deleted them all together, some that finished any WIPs but stopped after that, and quite a few that put a disclaimer in their author’s notes saying that either they disavowed Rowling’s words/beliefs but were separating the art from the artist and continuing on (the author contingent of the “fuck-its” as mentioned in the video) or that they could no longer stomach being involved in anything HP and would no longer be writing any new fics in the fandom or even finishing current WIPs. There were extremely few authors that did not address the issues at all.

  • @christineliddle8591
    @christineliddle8591Ай бұрын

    I was really surprised to see this on my homepage but I'm glad I clicked and I'm astounded this is your first video. The quality, both content and prodction, is very impressive. Definitely subscribing to see what's next!

  • @mlreakin3130
    @mlreakin313017 күн бұрын

    you obviously did so much work for this vid essay and it shows ~ it was a joy to watch :) everyone say thank you eli

  • @rikkirikki4892
    @rikkirikki489218 күн бұрын

    There has never been a video more tailored to me in my life.

  • @holliebrokaw3716
    @holliebrokaw371617 күн бұрын

    For me, on an emotional level, interacting with the fandom/fanfiction feels identically frustrating to interacting with some sects of Christianity. This has kept me from becoming a "practicing fan" even while the books were still being written (far before jk had her public downfall). Like people attribute anything they think is good (community, self discovery, moral development etc.) to the book and cut out, ignore or straight up change anything they disagree with so they feel justified in still doing the thing (fandom or that specific sect of religion). Like how many passages of "women should not be allowed to speak in church" and "Campaigning against s l a v e ry is bad actually" do we have to excise out before we admit that the good stuff was in you all along and the book just isn't that good? How rotten does a foundation have to be before we decide not to build a house on it? How much active, tangible harm does a leader have to cause before we say "oops, maybe I won't support that anymore :-/"

  • @snowjinxgal
    @snowjinxgalАй бұрын

    This is an amazing video essay, bravo, bravo. I really like a lot of the topics u went over, and the views of who is still into potter fandom and fanfiction as a form of activism.

  • @vv-by6zj
    @vv-by6zj20 күн бұрын

    I genuinely admire your dedication to the topic of the video

  • @ARhysJensen-tq9cv
    @ARhysJensen-tq9cv18 күн бұрын

    Love this - excited to see what you make next!

  • @Dlr7114
    @Dlr7114Ай бұрын

    Great video! I can't wait for your next one!

  • @stakochan
    @stakochan18 күн бұрын

    Screaming at the In Other Lands By Sarah Rees Brennan mention! It's also one of my favorite books, and I never hear other people bring it up. That screaming aside, excellent video! Can’t wait to see your future projects!

  • @wherehog5090
    @wherehog509028 күн бұрын

    This is really good for your first video essay, keep up the good work. As a trans woman I do find your analysis of Harry Potter fanfic very interesting, though I can't say I've ever been especially involved in male slash fics. From my general fanfic reading though, I would suggest part of the waning of drarry is growing popularity of other ships, I feel like I see more Snarry than Drarry nowdays.

  • @silentbob4343
    @silentbob434315 күн бұрын

    I can’t believe this is a first video. It’s so good!

  • @stinkyflour5924
    @stinkyflour592420 күн бұрын

    Love your video! Insane that this was your first video essay

  • @emmyrose233
    @emmyrose23320 күн бұрын

    Hoooow is this your first video?? This was so well-organized and entertaining, can't wait to see more :)

  • @IIIGioGioStarIII
    @IIIGioGioStarIIIАй бұрын

    Watching this and am blown away by how you carry yourself in the video. Subscribed and look forward to your video essays

  • @thecolorjune
    @thecolorjune15 күн бұрын

    Fantastic first video! Would love to see more. I hope your content appears in my FYP once more 🍀

  • @gingermaniac5484
    @gingermaniac548421 күн бұрын

    honestly, i think i would be very forgiving of dumbledor not having a noteworthy husband and or boyfriend at least in contextual clues later on in the series or even never, if harry himself was aromantic. sure not all aros are unlikely to notice or pick up on people being in love, some if not many are absolutely tickled by the idea of shipping people and people falling in love, but some are especially as kids some think it's an exaggeration or an inside joke or obligation. that said i don't know if it would fit harrys character, i could never get through the books no matter how hard i tried or wanted to due to adhd and preferring xenofiction. that said, i remember thinking mcgonagall and the future telling teacher had some SERIOUS bitter ex energy.

  • @marocat4749
    @marocat474922 күн бұрын

    Irs not even that she is a problematic or terrible person, but she lambasts it to the worls and becae figurehead of a hatemovement, willingly. Ther are shocking many authors and artists whi are not good people, yet can keep that private. While i dont take shippingtoo serious, drarry actually would explore a lot and have conflict with ron, hermine and harry more showing his darker side too, and draco of course actually get a real good character arc to , yeah. Also garry is already so obsessed with draco and and woulld be a way to face his bias. And harrrys most developed relationship argumently that isnt familial that close, is with draco. Also in the cursed child harry and draco would up as health friend with draco being the reasonable person in the room. She made that canon. Yeah Draco and harry being very close friends at least, Yes he was that. Also draco was practically written to be a zuko.

  • @Jelliedleader33
    @Jelliedleader33Ай бұрын

    Great video, your voice is so soothing

  • @starkid910
    @starkid91025 күн бұрын

    Really well presented, enjoyed the video a lot 😃 excited to see what your next one is

  • @faithmoir1637
    @faithmoir163718 күн бұрын

    i went to ur channel so excited thinking that i just found another video essayist with a backlog to watch, only to be so surprised (in a good way!) that this is your first video. this is so well researched and put together excellently! im excited to see where you go from here :)

  • @Lucifer-Riding
    @Lucifer-Riding20 күн бұрын

    You should probably include the induction of the Inkstained Fingers archive in this data. Import began in 2015 and the original archive closed in 2018. That also covers your little uptick spike in 2015-2016 in the gradual decline of interest in Drarry.

  • @cornflakes-does-stuff
    @cornflakes-does-stuff18 күн бұрын

    this was brilliant, really looking froward to your future work!!

  • @InfinityStyk
    @InfinityStyk18 күн бұрын

    i'm not active in the hp fic space at all, but this was still so fascinating to watch and listen to!! i'm excited to see whatever you come out with next - thanks for sharing with us :]

  • @ladygoldsun2625
    @ladygoldsun262525 күн бұрын

    This was a super interesting video I cannot wait to hear more from you!

  • @grey29825
    @grey2982520 күн бұрын

    This was a really fun and interesting video. I’ve been thinking recently about how I just straight up forget that Drarry and wolf star fandom is technically Harry Potter fandom because it feels so disconnected, so this was so interesting

  • @gerkinmckay1649
    @gerkinmckay164918 күн бұрын

    fantastically presented! loved your style and cant wait to see where you go from here!

  • @slapstickers
    @slapstickersАй бұрын

    ABSOLUTE BANGER ELI!

  • @anisnissa
    @anisnissa19 күн бұрын

    Thank you for a great essay. Hope to see more from you

  • @narocadias
    @narocadias12 күн бұрын

    cant believe this is your first video!! ❤❤

  • @ethnolushx_thishouseisacircus
    @ethnolushx_thishouseisacircus19 күн бұрын

    I loved it! Very interesting, argumented and serious video essay, I can't wait to watch more of your stuff. And I am checking the bibliography right now! :))

  • @earlnacht3945
    @earlnacht394517 күн бұрын

    What an awesome and insightful video video, and a surprise to find it's somehow your first one!! Subscribed, I hope to see more from you soon.

  • @liamsinestra2902
    @liamsinestra290221 күн бұрын

    Great vid! Looking forward to more of your content in the future!

  • @endtitles2588
    @endtitles258814 күн бұрын

    very well said. ty for making this and i admire the work u put into the stats :)

  • @sophiabbrady
    @sophiabbrady20 күн бұрын

    Fantastic video essay, would love to hear more!

  • @aceinspace4340
    @aceinspace434018 күн бұрын

    The Harry Potter Musicals by Starkid will forever be one of my favorite versions of the series

  • @sentient_dinosaurplush
    @sentient_dinosaurplush16 күн бұрын

    I have never hit subscribe so fast. This is great! ❤

  • @ithalaine
    @ithalaine2 күн бұрын

    Just subbed, can’t wait to see what you do next:)

  • @TimeBunny
    @TimeBunny20 күн бұрын

    I left the HP fandom once JKR went full on terf. I can’t even enjoy fanfic because of her.

  • @sarahingreen9734
    @sarahingreen973417 күн бұрын

    Ok, as a person who was in the fandom and frequently read fanfics of many different pairings, I can confirm that she is the reason many fans left! And in my case, it's because by accident or fate or whatever, most fan creators I followed and enjoyed the works of, were trans.They left around 2020 and I followed them out🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @mrh8142
    @mrh814217 күн бұрын

    Damn, you ate with the first video on your channel! Kudos to you, my friend

  • @elievileye

    @elievileye

    17 күн бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @Tamara-tt2fi
    @Tamara-tt2fi13 күн бұрын

    Omg this is your first video?? Please continue with it, it was very intereressting!

  • @MxBraeWilliams
    @MxBraeWilliams29 күн бұрын

    I really enjoyed this! First video essay? Wow!

  • @WinningSidekick
    @WinningSidekick20 күн бұрын

    This video is pretty cool, thanks for uploading!

  • @ragabutler89
    @ragabutler8923 күн бұрын

    Great first video. Keep up the good work :)