𝗙𝗜𝗡𝗔𝗟𝗟𝗬 Dragon Ball Super Explains Why Frieza Is The Strongest...

While Frieza is indeed a formidable opponent in the Dragon Ball series, it is not accurate to say that he will always be stronger than Goku. The power dynamics between characters in Dragon Ball are fluid and subject to change.
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  • @MajinBird
    @MajinBird6 ай бұрын

    Hi everyone welcome o the channel!. I see a lot of discourse going on in the comment section, If you guys wanna have a longer conversation about it you should join the discord ➡discord.gg/FZftwZnBA8

  • @TeamHeropon
    @TeamHeropon Жыл бұрын

    8:20 Huh, ya know I just notice that Freeza is in the same stance that Goku uses. Really shows how despite how much he hates Goku's guts Freeza respects him. Imitation is the greatest form of flattery as they say.

  • @tyruku18

    @tyruku18

    Жыл бұрын

    Legit just realized he went Turtle Hermit Stance because of your timestamp, thanks brother.

  • @0KJaye
    @0KJaye Жыл бұрын

    Goku & Vegeta allowing one of the most EVILLLLLL ppl in the universe to roam around and do as he pleases is some serious character assassination.

  • @hamzakh555
    @hamzakh555 Жыл бұрын

    DB in a nutshell: A strong enemy appears out of nowhere, sayin train get new form, enemy gets new form, sayin get new form mid fight outta nowhere, finally enemy defeated despite establishing the enemy is invincible and no way can be beaten, but still gets beaten. Repeat.

  • @rifarira9160
    @rifarira9160 Жыл бұрын

    The fact that freeza left them alive after knowing Potara and Gogeta exist. Thats either mean freeza so confident in his power that the fusion of Goku and Vegeta didnt even threaten him at all or he has something up his sleeves to counter their fusion.

  • @Khaynizzle7

    @Khaynizzle7

    Жыл бұрын

    That is what it means. He saw Broly, the Gods, The Angels, even Goku and Vegeta. He knew he was outclassed, but then he thought. What if I put in the work they did? Now it's fair to say he is possibly going to be the first character to land a hit on Whis.

  • @sora654able1

    @sora654able1

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean Frieza knows he needs a yard stick.

  • @bwill1268

    @bwill1268

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s exactly what he did. Frieza trained on a planet that had its own hyperbolic time chamber for 10 years. Taking into account fusion as well as Goku, and co.

  • @FazeRustyNuts

    @FazeRustyNuts

    Жыл бұрын

    It's just Goku's influence due to him letting Frieza live all those other time's. I thought this was obvious

  • @khalilnevels8926

    @khalilnevels8926

    Жыл бұрын

    He doesn't know about the Potara. Only Metamoran (dance) fusion.

  • @kirbyof590stars
    @kirbyof590stars Жыл бұрын

    I’m pretty sure it was Black Frieza who killed Gas. He briefly accessed the form to kill Gas. Gas attempted to reach Frieza’s level, but it was so high, he turned to dust.

  • @respr

    @respr

    Жыл бұрын

    yea he did transform

  • @FazeRustyNuts

    @FazeRustyNuts

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@respr No he didn't. It was confirmed he was in Final Form. Why are you trying to ignore that?

  • @respr

    @respr

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FazeRustyNuts what? When Frieza went to strike gas he did transform for a split second what?

  • @Phantomgto85

    @Phantomgto85

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@respr no, he accessed black frieza power for the strike but didn't transform till he needed to for goku and vegeta. The colored pages confirmed that.

  • @zukodean285

    @zukodean285

    Жыл бұрын

    The colored manga is implying that it’s still just final form

  • @AvatarJian
    @AvatarJian Жыл бұрын

    Frieza still being alive or even coming back in the first place is one of the stupidest things they could've done from a narrative standpoint.

  • @xXmomofanXx

    @xXmomofanXx

    Жыл бұрын

    I think it opens up way more unique uses for the dragonball, and if they are careful with it could be a great narrative… tho cell would have probably been better since he isn’t as purely evil as frieza

  • @AvatarJian

    @AvatarJian

    Жыл бұрын

    @xXmomofanXx no it doesn't. I get that dbz has little consequence when it comes to death since it isn't very permanent. But bringing back Frieza is a slap in the face to the orignal narrative that had a satisfying conclusion that ended the evil of Frieza. Now Goku and Vegeta just let him roam free to destroy and take over planets until they cross paths again. So stupid. Not to mention the fact that they just keep retconning dbz every issue. Ridiculous. Defeats the point of anything anymore if they are just going to rewrite everything? Super is such trash.

  • @AvatarJian

    @AvatarJian

    Жыл бұрын

    @Manuel_Studying no it isn't. It just diminishes the feats of Goku and Trunks from a narrative standpoint. So many hacks like you get to make stuff in the industry. It's depressing.

  • @Wolfen_II

    @Wolfen_II

    Жыл бұрын

    i think it kinda makes since since buu feel asleep they didn't have much options or time to train someone up. Frieza was one of if not their best back up option. Out of cell and frieza I would always think cell would probably be the worst pick every time even thought he's pure evil like frieza I feel like he would've realized how outmatched he was, lose his cool and would've got himself knocked out trying to blow the arena up. They could've made a new character but well they can barely keep track of the current characters lmaoooo

  • @AvatarJian

    @AvatarJian

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Wolfen_II buu falling asleep is literally just a narrative cop out convenience to bring back Frieza lmao because the writer said so. It's contrived as hell

  • @corstasclashcam8925
    @corstasclashcam8925 Жыл бұрын

    When freeze beat gaz he turned into black freezer for a second then returned to base form the coloured manga showed this until then it was a guessing game

  • @feywinterfox9630
    @feywinterfox9630 Жыл бұрын

    This is hands down one of the BEST explanation I have ever heard about Frieza! Heck you even did something I never hear people talk about which is the fact that his transformations on Namik were limiters that lowered his already insane power in base form. One of the biggest problems of all the villains in Dragon Ball (Not its a problem of the story or show but a problem of the character’s thinking/mindset) is they all start off stronger than anyone so as far as they are concerned, why do I need to get stronger? I can’t be beaten! Then they run into someone willing to put in the work and get worked! Frieza has always been the worst of this being both a mutant and a natural talent, had he even done a little of training his like up to meeting Goku, I promise you that fight would have been totally different!

  • @MajinBird

    @MajinBird

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah agreed my friend

  • @yoshineitor
    @yoshineitor Жыл бұрын

    He is a prodigy according to certain non-canon lores, he was overwhelmingly strong by default, a mutation comparable to Broly. Dragon Ball can also explore Broly. Beerus might also be a mutation, as similar but weaker beings of his species can be seen during the tournament of power.

  • @C00kyCorey
    @C00kyCorey Жыл бұрын

    Your description of how DBZ plays out chapter to chapter month to month is pretty on point. Awesome vid boss :)

  • @GuyDude-hk8uy
    @GuyDude-hk8uy Жыл бұрын

    All I know is that green-spotted orange GoD Frieza is gonna give SSJ6 Future Vegahanksku one *hell* of a challenge! I just hope he can master SSGSSJ6 Kaio-ken *50 before it's too late.

  • @Sdibble2000
    @Sdibble2000 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome video bro. Keep it up 👍

  • @mrZavior
    @mrZavior Жыл бұрын

    I would just prefer that characters would just get stronger instead of keep transforming...

  • @reynoldmcdenald1310

    @reynoldmcdenald1310

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree. I'm ok with ultra ego and ultra instinct being the end all be all forms for Vegeta/Goku, but golden Frieza should be his final form. I think it fits his vanity and arrogance so well.

  • @Izadirad1995

    @Izadirad1995

    Жыл бұрын

    Add some new techniques too

  • @00v4mp00

    @00v4mp00

    Жыл бұрын

    Sure, but from a business stand point that wouldn’t work, the forms are a popular part of the show and the more forms they have the merchandise they can make around those forms, I don’t think dragon ball has a great enough story telling for them to just entirely toss getting new forms to the side

  • @devonstidham9234

    @devonstidham9234

    Жыл бұрын

    Original dragon did that alot hopefully we get back to that.

  • @AstraFulminous

    @AstraFulminous

    Жыл бұрын

    Think of forms as a way of visually representing that change. It leaves a greater impact.

  • @johndorsey7890
    @johndorsey78908 ай бұрын

    I love how they made frieza now, ever since learning about the Omni King, he doesn’t even try to kill Goku or Vegeta anymore. After trying to test his power with Broly and seeing Gogeta, he forwarded his plans to aim higher in power and now he beyond them. All he needed was discipline and now he’s ready. What are his true goals? Who knows, but I think a Universal War saga is coming but we’ll see.

  • @JadedSatoru
    @JadedSatoruАй бұрын

    Been binge watching your videos , fire bro keep it up

  • @Dylnn17
    @Dylnn17 Жыл бұрын

    keep this content up, I see the steam roll happening as we speak. bros ready to become a main stay in db youtube.

  • @MajinBird

    @MajinBird

    Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate that a lot man. I'ma try my best, wish me luck

  • @kodak5678
    @kodak5678 Жыл бұрын

    Cool video

  • @sapnavora6834
    @sapnavora6834 Жыл бұрын

    I honestly hate that they kept retconning frieza to bring him back as a villain, he was good on namek yes but then they kept bringing him back and he had stupid amounts of potential he became god level in 4 months that’s bullshit just let him die, these new powers that goku and vegeta have become meaningless if someone can just get to their level with a fraction of the time and resources

  • @AstraFulminous

    @AstraFulminous

    Жыл бұрын

    Some fans may say that now. But just remember GT wishes it treated their returning Z villains half as well as Super does. Sometimes the grass is greener where it is. GT: Android 17: Cloned, Mind Controlled, Turned Mad & His Character Development Unexplored Frieza: Taken Down without a Flashy Show. Kept as a Gag Perfect Cell: Goes the same way as Frieza Doctor Gero: Betrayed yet again. Majin Boo: Fused With His Rencarnation. But doesn't get to show off. Vegeta: Taken over and used by a Tuffle. His pride tamed but without greater personal aspirations or self improvement. A man whose mustache was taken from him. Pilaf Gang: Kept out of the cast. Still fun at heart. But not followed up on as much as they could be.

  • @AstraFulminous

    @AstraFulminous

    Жыл бұрын

    Android 18: Betrayed by her Brother. Her husband beat down in front of her and her daughter. Forced to help kill a twisted version of her brother in a struggle . No later battles.

  • @SilverbackJellybottom

    @SilverbackJellybottom

    Жыл бұрын

    I like frieza coming back

  • @dwightnorton3398
    @dwightnorton3398 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video bro

  • @MajinBird

    @MajinBird

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @dwightnorton3398

    @dwightnorton3398

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MajinBird My Pleasure

  • @COOL_DAD
    @COOL_DAD Жыл бұрын

    Majin bird, what a cool name 😊

  • @prentisscovington8676
    @prentisscovington8676 Жыл бұрын

    It's an nice touch using the dragon ball z Kai preview

  • @brmawe
    @brmawe Жыл бұрын

    Ssj Rose is Ssj Blue in the manga...in the anime it's never stated. But if you if go off statements in the FT arc than it would make more sense that Black's Rose is Super Saiyan.

  • @nxt_t0xic574

    @nxt_t0xic574

    Жыл бұрын

    black did go super saiyan in manga, then later applied his kai 'god ki' into it and jus realised he can easily access rose

  • @simpgod2170
    @simpgod2170 Жыл бұрын

    I also like to point out that since the TOP, goku only did 1-2 years worth of training up to his fight with granola, while frieza had 10, since his fight with broly. So between the TOP and granola arc, Frieza was 8-9 years of training ahead of goku when he killed gas Not that surprising he be so much stronger than him now tbh

  • @jordanglasper1064
    @jordanglasper10646 ай бұрын

    This is a damn good vid.

  • @PZAXR
    @PZAXR Жыл бұрын

    I can explain this, Frieza is like a KZreadr with 1 million subs, and Goku is like a KZreadr just starting out. Goku works hard to earn subs, while Frieza just does whatever he wants, then Goku gains more traction and becomes more popular and defeats Frieza in quality of content. Then Frieza develops better videos and quality and uses the sub count to his advantage from loyal followers. Goku needs to increase his sub count, but he's been clowning around lately so people been falling off. Gohan was slacking to, but has a high sub count, and trained for a little bit and surpassed everyone in quality, being one of the first to post, and advertising his videos to put his videos on the front page, truly a marvel, but the front page only last for a short time, so his beast mode was time limited. Just like youtube. XD

  • @UnwantedGhost1
    @UnwantedGhost1 Жыл бұрын

    The Galactic Tyrant of Universe 7 never train in his entire life before the conclusion of the Namek saga. His full power level of a hundred twenty million was what he had at birth. Much stronger than his father King Cold, for that reason was why he retired.

  • @pseudoguerilla
    @pseudoguerilla Жыл бұрын

    Good vid can u discuss beerus if u haven’t I think half the destruction gods are underrated

  • @MajinBird

    @MajinBird

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes I will have a video coming up about Beerus in like the next 7 minutes lol

  • @Razento25
    @Razento25 Жыл бұрын

    If Cell is basically everyone...can you imagine if he trained for 10 years..Hes technically a Saiyan.

  • @erendripaeger9875

    @erendripaeger9875

    Жыл бұрын

    He's Frieza aswell

  • @eddielopez3677
    @eddielopez3677 Жыл бұрын

    It’s hard to tell but frieza actually transformed into his black form for a split second and reverted back to his base once he impaled gas

  • @dominikdobrotic8298
    @dominikdobrotic8298 Жыл бұрын

    Frieza and Superalloy Darkshine have a lot in common

  • @ZeroDividedByZero
    @ZeroDividedByZero Жыл бұрын

    It’s because Black Freeza can say the N Word

  • @selfishbeats
    @selfishbeats Жыл бұрын

    buu was just reawakened, he's a force of nature actually.

  • @ghoulbuster1
    @ghoulbuster1 Жыл бұрын

    I hope they show Freeza's training. I'm interested to know how different freeza trains, like I imagine real living training dummies. Just to add to his evil nature.

  • @Black_Knight_-BK-

    @Black_Knight_-BK-

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel he visualised a fight with every person he fought. Bardock, Vegeta, Piccolo, Kid Gohan, Krillin, Goku and Future Trunks as part of his mental training

  • @zwelisibiya3707

    @zwelisibiya3707

    Жыл бұрын

    They once showed it when he trained for golden form 😂😂😂😂😂his partner was on hell😅😅😅😅😅thagamor that's his name

  • @vitticusrising
    @vitticusrising Жыл бұрын

    one correction: Frieza in the Frieza Saga had a power level of 12 million. When Goku arrives on Namek, his base was 90k, with 180k at base Kaio-Ken (default is x2). After the tank heal, his base was 300k. 10x was 3 million and 20x was 6 million. When goku hit SSJ, he went up to 15 million, outclassing Frieza's 12 million. Freiza's second form had a PL of 1 million against Piccolo.

  • @FlyingWithSpurts

    @FlyingWithSpurts

    Жыл бұрын

    Originally, yes. That was later retconned to 120mil and Post heal Goku being 3mil base and 150mil SS. It's dumb, but it is what it is.

  • @Amirisphere
    @Amirisphere Жыл бұрын

    Black Frieza potential based on 10 years of training. This was 5 years passed since Broly movie, so arcs in the comic passed. It's confirmed Superhero is after those events by the comics. Broly is now in HIDING from Frieza, so Goku and Vegeta know why. And no, Gohan was always a potential based being. He said he was training in SECRET. Akira Toriyama said that Gohan being backed into such a vicious corner caused him to hate himself, and his rage Unlocked a new potential even Goku and Vegeta couldn't just sense. Gohan is the strongest and deserves to be. He may be just a nerd, but he's strategic. When Piccolo is around, he keeps Gohan in check, as he did when Gohan started smiling. This is beautiful. Very. I'm grateful that Piccolo has trained him to be a POWERHOUSE who KEEPS HIMSELF IN CHECK! WATCH how GREAT this show gets thanks to this.

  • @CreamerOfTheDairySquad
    @CreamerOfTheDairySquad Жыл бұрын

    Frieza was NOT necessary in the TOP they could have used fit Buu but instead they wrote him to be asleep

  • @FireFox64000000
    @FireFox64000000 Жыл бұрын

    I just want to see broly or Gohan kick Freeza's ass for like two hours straight. Or, here's a horrifying thought, Broly and Gohan fuse. (I just realized that would be called Brohan or Goly) And absolutely body Freeza.

  • @Vaith
    @Vaith Жыл бұрын

    wait did i miss something. i thought frieza said his gold form was just for flair and not like super saiyan where its a multiplier, just that he amps his power up and physically changes his appearance like he does with his suppressed forms. id assume that would be the same for his black form. he amps his power for the gold so much, but didnt train his stamina. its like weight lifting for a fight, but never doing cardio to train stamina. so he burnt out.

  • @nanuktheslime4108
    @nanuktheslime4108 Жыл бұрын

    Wow i came early to the video!

  • @blackfrieza6969
    @blackfrieza6969 Жыл бұрын

    I'm Killing It.

  • @Chiefzakk
    @Chiefzakk Жыл бұрын

    Frieza has been stated to be the “most powerful born mortal in the universe with the highest ceiling of potential” he’s a mutant of the strongest family in the strongest base race in the series. That’s why he’s so strong, hate everyone who thinks cooler is higher up on the food chain he’s not. It’s like a King Cold thing they’re just family and respect each other to an extent for business.

  • @youngmula226
    @youngmula226 Жыл бұрын

    Majin buu wasn’t created my bibibdi. Majin Buu Is as old as the universe itself. I think and this is just my head cannon that all 12 Universes has a Majin just like buu

  • @padraig-bobotia-maria5176

    @padraig-bobotia-maria5176

    Жыл бұрын

    that's not in the actual story he said that in an interview only, before gods of destruction and zeno were a thing

  • @UnwantedGhost1
    @UnwantedGhost1 Жыл бұрын

    I believe Frieza used the same Room of Spirit & Time Merus had Goku in during the Galactic Patrol Prison saga. After conquering that world along with mamy others recently.

  • @ITheGrinch
    @ITheGrinch Жыл бұрын

    Correction Toriyama said Majin Buu existed since time memorial or whatever the word is so he said he has existed since the universe spawned he’s an anomaly he’s always been there. So technically he is the strongest being without a transformation but if he is not organic then frieza would be the strongest organic mortal. I assume Majin buu is immortal to where he does not age. It’s all confusing because toriyama forgets and adds a lot

  • @jovaughnlaing7171
    @jovaughnlaing71716 ай бұрын

    Speaking about his earlier compressing forms anybody knows why King Cold didn't transform against trunks

  • @abdolrahmansalemsaadah7302
    @abdolrahmansalemsaadah7302 Жыл бұрын

    You know a character has too many forms when you can say they revert back to their FINAL FORM

  • @thegamingcow5072
    @thegamingcow5072 Жыл бұрын

    The multiplier of transformations vary based on the mastery of the transformation. Also, ur gonna use numbers in DB to determine strength? Since when were DB numbers true to their number?

  • @genostellar
    @genostellar Жыл бұрын

    Actually, Freeza's base form was around 60 million. that 120 million form was achieved by him powering up, like Trunks does later against Cell, or like Master Roshi does when ever he fights seriously. 120 million Freeza was a powered-up form, not a base form. All this video does is restate what DBSuper has already said, that Freeza never trained before and now that he's training has proven himself to have a terrifyingly unfair advantage. It still doesn't really make sense outside the idea that Freeza is powerful just because he is. The black form itself proves that the closer to being Popo you get, the more terrifying you are. Now that makes sense.

  • @kylestuart3216
    @kylestuart3216 Жыл бұрын

    Why does the back of Goku's head look so cursed in the thumbnail?, especially in ultra instinct?

  • @Supiragon1998

    @Supiragon1998

    Жыл бұрын

    I guess because the spiky parts of his hair are almost the same size on bith sides of his head for some reason

  • @MonsterHunterPV
    @MonsterHunterPV Жыл бұрын

    A lot of fans forget Frieza in his species is still a teen. 10yrs of training for him is especially a lot cause he is growing up too while getting zenkais like a Broly/Jiren prodigy. King Kold when Trunks killed him was in his supressed form, like Frieza on namek. Transformed he probably couldve taken Trunks...point being, imagine when Frieza grows up lol also remember Frieza said he chose the color gold.

  • @vivianroman8600

    @vivianroman8600

    Жыл бұрын

    Brotha… he said he wanted to get 5 inches taller to PRETEND he was still growing..

  • @lordlittletoeq8537

    @lordlittletoeq8537

    Жыл бұрын

    Where did you get he's a teen?

  • @boneman9751

    @boneman9751

    Жыл бұрын

    I highly doubt he’s a teen he’s only a few years older than goku and vegeta and we see him as a kid in the broly movie

  • @Jaschka15

    @Jaschka15

    Жыл бұрын

    Cold doesn´t have a suppressed form. It wouldnt make sense, since he had enough time to transform while freezer getting blasted. He was already surpassed by freezer. Also in the normal Timeline, cold and freezer were defeated by normal ssj goku, therefore why would cold than be stronger? Its been stated endless times that freezer is an insane prodigy among the race, so its probably an exception than he and his brother have multiple transformations

  • @robbiestafford6889

    @robbiestafford6889

    Жыл бұрын

    Zenkais? That’s apart of saiyan biology

  • @jaydenborjas4763
    @jaydenborjas476310 ай бұрын

    I've always kinda liked and hated the constant return of frieza due to his mindblowing strength constantly. When I was introduced to the Golden form when watch DBS I didn't realize it then but later on I thought about it and thought maybe frieza's first real transformation (if not counting 100% frieza) is golden like gokus so long ago thinking about how he was beaten by yknow "the saiyan of legend with golden hair!" So it'd be yknow kinda like a monkey see monkey do thing. But besides that someone told me about them possibly making GT canon and possibly making a SSGSS4 (God Ki Super saiyan 4) can you talk about that if it's true Majin Bird? Anyways besides that great video. Still hate frieza tho😅😂

  • @emittlitoramos8537
    @emittlitoramos8537 Жыл бұрын

    If Frieza went inside time chamber it would of been over 😅

  • @albertoroper4901
    @albertoroper4901 Жыл бұрын

    Since when did Dragon ball made a distintion between physical strength and ki?

  • @maniacslap1623
    @maniacslap1623 Жыл бұрын

    Frieza not the problem. His base power like u said, was high as fukk from the jump and realistically, nobody had to have a base that high to pull off what we saw in Z. Adult Gohan after the Z sword coulda been around 80M. Easily in the billions once he transforms. Enough for somebody like Buu. Frieza used his full power once for around 5 minutes on Namek. Him actually fighting AND training makes his growth understandable plus he’s mutant. 10 years is plenty time for him to gap Goku and Vegeta. Also, same thing with Piccolo and Gohan. Piccolo got 2 new forms, 2 new multipliers and his base at minimum after fusing with Kami is 300M…but I digress lol It also make sense why Frieza would have higher multipliers once he actually transforms than the saiyans. If a saiyan can multiply his power by 50x, given how much stronger Frieza is naturally, his shyt should be like 5000x and then 50,000x for Black. That would real fitting lol Fire video bruh!

  • @jsinister_vq8303
    @jsinister_vq8303 Жыл бұрын

    This explains how frieza was able to take that ass whopping from broly for like an hour while goku and vegeta were out perfecting their fusion transformation in the movie

  • @craigalston2208
    @craigalston2208 Жыл бұрын

    Who else wants to see the MOST wasted character in Dragon Ball = Buu go up against Freeza in the new arc ?? They need to put Buu to use and STOP using the same old tired characters in EVERY story arc . It's time to see if that warning that Freeza's father gave him NOT to fight Buu was deserved . I've got confidence in Buu since he's had plenty of time to train while Goku and Vegeta have been doing all of the fighting .

  • @maconpancakes4193
    @maconpancakes4193 Жыл бұрын

    Goku having low base strength but high base ki makes so much sense when I think about krillin hurt sleeping goku by throwing a rock at his head.

  • @justfun5479

    @justfun5479

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a filler episode 💀

  • @maconpancakes4193

    @maconpancakes4193

    Жыл бұрын

    @@justfun5479 so? it still fits with my narrative. Filler don't = canon. If you're a manga only person, all the power to you.

  • @jibbobdion5072
    @jibbobdion5072 Жыл бұрын

    Frieza didn't kill Gas in base form, he transformed into black Frieza for the killing blow before going back into his base form, you can see it in the panal where he penetrated gas.

  • @antione4543
    @antione4543 Жыл бұрын

    I always thought frieza”s race and saiyans are like yin and yang.. ( warrior race, conquer planets etc ) thing is frieza never actually “trained”. in my opinion he makes more sense as a god of destruction than goku or vegeta due to the fact hes ok with destroying planets with life. I really dont see how goku or vegeta will take over for beerus logically.

  • @Quan420
    @Quan420 Жыл бұрын

    6:55 he definitely wayy stronger than a normal human in base strength 😐 he was lifting up cars n boulders n punching people through buildings as a kid.

  • @rtruth7002

    @rtruth7002

    Жыл бұрын

    As a kid, he was still using ki and that's why if they run out of ki or suppress their ki, they are weak like humans. For example, in the world martial arts tournament when they punched the punching machine while suppressing their ki, they became vastly weaker.

  • @UnwantedGhost1
    @UnwantedGhost1 Жыл бұрын

    I don't think Frieza was in Base when he impaled & killed the strongest form of Gas. He looks like he briefly used his new most powerful form based on the subtle aura.

  • @Jaschka15

    @Jaschka15

    Жыл бұрын

    this is correct, he wasnt in base form

  • @kingmasterlord
    @kingmasterlord Жыл бұрын

    I just want to see Boros vs the Buu arc roster

  • @masterzero8561
    @masterzero8561 Жыл бұрын

    Wait a minute, do we know how long Frieza race lives? What if the downfall of this new form is that Frieza age starts catching up with him? It's just a crazy thought I am fairly certain it won't be the case.

  • @Ershiin

    @Ershiin

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean, he has seemingly barely aged a day since he destroyed planet Vegeta back when Goku was still a baby. I doubt its going to kick in anytime soon

  • @fireironthesecond2909

    @fireironthesecond2909

    Жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately they apparently live thousands of years I think (Freeza is over 100 years old)

  • @holl7w

    @holl7w

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@fireironthesecond2909he's just a bit older than Goku

  • @peterwowfan
    @peterwowfan Жыл бұрын

    okay I think my issue with black frieza and why i don't think it makes sense if we go back to that xp gain analogy another factor to improve is to train with someone equal to or better then you allowing you to push yourself to new heights and I'm speaking from experience in real life. I've sparred with people that have made me sweat and I felt massive improvement but to them they felt nothing I remember hearing my sparring partner jokingly say to someone of his level that he had an easy session and hadn't worked up a sweat. With that in mind who is frieza training with? I'm pretty sure in resurrection F it stated that the Frieza force is weaker than when it was on Namek and with the fact they are sending people out to the furthest most unlikely planets to try and replenish numbers and get stronger people in the Broly movie so it's not much better by then so for 10 years training with weaklings won't do much and if all he did was mental training well personally I think that's a bit of a cop out for the power increase and also and maybe they are different on other world but from what we the view has seen of the time chamber it has massive diminishing returns after a year Vegeta, trunk, Goku, and Gohan got massive power boosts and when asked if Goku would go back in there to beat cell goku said there would be no point even having another year in there would be an alright work out but he wouldn't improve much and we actually see that in super in the Universe 6 tournament goku and vegeta spent 3 years in there I think and came out with very little improvement and vegeta keeps using the time chamber to train but he's so strong now he just blows his way out of it even getting a warning off of popo not to do it again and then literally destroys it again and again it seemed like vegeta didn't improve much either so 10 years in a type of time chamber dimension presumably solo or if not with basically weak fodder dudes how would he have managed it makes no sense. also before anyone says something like he just used a cloning ability to train with like piccolo I don't think to my knowledge frieza has ever displayed that ability so I have to assume he doesn't know it so in that 10 year time span how could he have gotten this much stronger?

  • @risingphoenix9800
    @risingphoenix9800 Жыл бұрын

    The color BLACK. Holds all colors WITHIN itself.

  • @DigitalDynasty676
    @DigitalDynasty676 Жыл бұрын

    Frieza is the second character with most potential (after Gohan),4 months of training got him from namek super saiyan goku level to super saiyan blue goku level so imagine 10 years of training

  • @abdouaboud7490

    @abdouaboud7490

    Жыл бұрын

    He has more potential that Gohan In 4 months he multiplied his streght millions of times

  • @SilverbackJellybottom

    @SilverbackJellybottom

    Жыл бұрын

    Gohan had to get his potential unlocked multiple times, friezas potential is this high and he didn't get his unlocked even once yet

  • @DigitalDynasty676

    @DigitalDynasty676

    Жыл бұрын

    @@abdouaboud7490 bro frieza unlocked a form that can equal super saiyan blue in 4 months,but Gohan unlocked the beast form which will equal ultra instinct goku and ultra ego vegeta with absolutely no training at all

  • @ssjdon
    @ssjdon Жыл бұрын

    9:07 yo whos feet is that on goku and vegeta face?

  • @iphoneyoutube44
    @iphoneyoutube44 Жыл бұрын

    You can’t compare saiyan abilities and multiplier to friezes different biological abilities full stop

  • @djn6962
    @djn6962 Жыл бұрын

    Frieza was so irrelevant after his death at the hands of Trunks… was absent for the androids, cell, and buu… bringing him back was just lazy nostalgia bait.

  • @Strahinja_Djordjevic
    @Strahinja_Djordjevic Жыл бұрын

    I honestly do not mind anime cencoring shit. As long as the same message gets across

  • @troglodytezero1697
    @troglodytezero1697 Жыл бұрын

    Being the strongest doesn't mean much in DBS

  • @ashmitpahal

    @ashmitpahal

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah someone will feel tickle in back and reach a level higher

  • @IntenseEffectDripVegetaXV2

    @IntenseEffectDripVegetaXV2

    Жыл бұрын

    You right but Those were sayains that were super sayain level but never before seen a super sayain so it only makes sense….. look at goten and kid trunks younger than cauliflower already super sayain so it don’t make sense when people argue about the tingle back thing

  • @IntenseEffectDripVegetaXV2

    @IntenseEffectDripVegetaXV2

    Жыл бұрын

    Like cabba and those other universe 6 sayains were already strong enough to be a super sayain power level wise they just never seen anyone do it or use the transformation so i hate when people try say it was too ez for them to gain the forms when they already have more power than needed to go Super Sayain.

  • @animeupdateszandtalksofomk4410

    @animeupdateszandtalksofomk4410

    Жыл бұрын

    @@IntenseEffectDripVegetaXV2 But Goten needs more screentime

  • @ashmitpahal

    @ashmitpahal

    Жыл бұрын

    @@IntenseEffectDripVegetaXV2 Goten was a hybrid from strongest Saiyan and strongest non Android female. Vegeta acting as mentor And cabba's rage was quite cringey . If they have same potential as goten why didn't they even once struggle in their life a bit . Either Chi-Chi is super Saiyan level or Universe 6 has no high level opponents. Walmart freeza should have been at the same level as the original freeza in Freeza saga . Don't tell me he trained or something if he did he would have been Golden . Even if they transform. Base Goku should be stronger than them . Only Moments I like in DBS 1)Goku rage against Zamasu . 2)Mui .

  • @williambrinkmeier1772
    @williambrinkmeier1772 Жыл бұрын

    Btw buu was not created they updated his lore at some point he always existed

  • @reybars2961
    @reybars2961 Жыл бұрын

    the reason why i watch dragon ball is because its simple.. so i don't have to use a lot of my brain processing power

  • @chad63
    @chad63 Жыл бұрын

    buu still definitely stronger if he trained like frieza and also was not created he was controlled. he already existed originally

  • @abdouaboud7490

    @abdouaboud7490

    Жыл бұрын

    We have no idea about buu talent but we know cell have freezia cells so he could achieve his forms if trained

  • @chad63

    @chad63

    Жыл бұрын

    @@abdouaboud7490 dude buu can absorb anyone thats why he was left out of the tournament of power

  • @SilverbackJellybottom

    @SilverbackJellybottom

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@chad63wasn't he asleep?

  • @chad63

    @chad63

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SilverbackJellybottom yes toriyama made him sleep cause he too op for the tournament

  • @abdouaboud7490

    @abdouaboud7490

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chad63 only thing he's doing is healing his teammate Anyone on ssj blue level would decimate him

  • @meostars
    @meostars Жыл бұрын

    Don't forget freiza has only trained some 4 months or something like that his whole life. With that being said I think he'd have lot of room for improvement innit

  • @boneman9751

    @boneman9751

    Жыл бұрын

    He tried for 10 years in a time chamber to get black. 4 months was to get golden.

  • @punchd4317
    @punchd4317 Жыл бұрын

    Adaptation

  • @jknight392
    @jknight392 Жыл бұрын

    We need golden jiren

  • @Hebrewphile
    @Hebrewphile Жыл бұрын

    Wait the anime censors the Manga?

  • @thespacebanana1307
    @thespacebanana1307 Жыл бұрын

    "imagine waiting for a month with little to no info" hunterxhunter fans have entered the chat

  • @ilostmyotheracc8704
    @ilostmyotheracc8704 Жыл бұрын

    frieza is just him

  • @bdndella69
    @bdndella69 Жыл бұрын

    I wanna see frieza against broly

  • @L2Gabby

    @L2Gabby

    Жыл бұрын

    He got beat up by broly did u not see the movie or something

  • @MrIrdatlan
    @MrIrdatlan Жыл бұрын

    Black frieza orange piccolo white gohan.... hmmm

  • @AkosihHorrom
    @AkosihHorrom Жыл бұрын

    You guys in the comments should be like the dude talking in the video. It’s dragon ball it’s the way it is. I’m day 1 super fan idc what akira writes it’s all gonna be good with me

  • @waynegafford1010
    @waynegafford1010 Жыл бұрын

    Frieza used his black form to kill gas

  • @licansen3331
    @licansen3331 Жыл бұрын

    DBS fans don't realize that Frieza has always been the strongest he just doesn't train like Goku and Vegeta since from the very start of the show Namek saga it was showned that Frieza had a lot of potential as a kid even going to explode planets with one massive ki blast as a kid he was already planetary level and the only reason why he lost to Goku is because he didn't train enough to become stronger he was just a tactician and was not a fighter his mind was not in a fighter mindset he was always constantly planning on his next move and that's what lead to his ultimate downfall if kid Frieza trained all this time up until the Granolah arc he would've reach beyond super Saiyan god powerful.

  • @Jaschka15

    @Jaschka15

    Жыл бұрын

    Bro use some points

  • @4donooo
    @4donooo Жыл бұрын

    it wasnt even goku or vegeta tht drove his training it was prolly that ASS WHOOPING from broly he got😂😂😂😭😭

  • @JoseSilva-vr3cp
    @JoseSilva-vr3cp Жыл бұрын

    you can clearly see frieza was not in base?! Edit: he just has energy around him which makes him look darker for two panels

  • @FazeRustyNuts

    @FazeRustyNuts

    Жыл бұрын

    yeh he was in final form obviously 🤡

  • @JoseSilva-vr3cp

    @JoseSilva-vr3cp

    Жыл бұрын

    He had to come up with the earlier forms to control his power actually lmao every post about this is referring to him as base or black form and he literally says base form in this video 🤓

  • @calladus123

    @calladus123

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@JoseSilva-vr3cp lol the colored Manga panels clearly shows him in his base (his forms in Z we're power dampeners).

  • @JoseSilva-vr3cp

    @JoseSilva-vr3cp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@calladus123 you are right the energy around him just make him look darker for two panels and yea that’s what I was saying he couldn’t control his power son had to down grade to those forms which is weird because frost has the same problem i guess

  • @Strahinja_Djordjevic
    @Strahinja_Djordjevic Жыл бұрын

    How long can this MF live if he just decided he can train for 10 years...

  • @MonsterHunterPV

    @MonsterHunterPV

    Жыл бұрын

    He's still a teen lol

  • @Strahinja_Djordjevic

    @Strahinja_Djordjevic

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MonsterHunterPV lmao tbh that doesn't seem wrong. But he is older than Goku and Vegeta so he's at least 50 or plder

  • @davidwight5974

    @davidwight5974

    Жыл бұрын

    10 years in a hyperbolic time chamber that means 10.days

  • @Strahinja_Djordjevic

    @Strahinja_Djordjevic

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davidwight5974 outside but inside it's 10 years

  • @coreyrobbins1892
    @coreyrobbins1892 Жыл бұрын

    I have no issue with black freezer being stronger than Kakarot and Vegeta just don't do something stupid and make them stronger than beerus. The God of Destruction has been around for millions of years no 10 years in the hyperbolic chamber is going to catch that don't do that

  • @frankcastle_8513
    @frankcastle_8513 Жыл бұрын

    Frieza left Goku and Vegeta live for only one reason. Let's see who knows in the comments 👇

  • @apfitness3304
    @apfitness3304 Жыл бұрын

    I can’t believe the community still uses ssj 50x multiplier and ssj2 100x. Grade 1 is 50x. Grade 2, 3, and 4 greatly pass that. And that’s all the true power of ssj. So ssj2 is far more than 100x. Grade 2 ssj 1 is already 100x alone. Since it’s obviously twice the strength of ssj grade 1.

  • @rifarira9160

    @rifarira9160

    Жыл бұрын

    Also look at trunks, Goku need SSJ3 and even SSJ Red to defeat SSJ2 Trunks

  • @bottlemanepic3781

    @bottlemanepic3781

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@rifarira9160SSJ red?

  • @AllMight6

    @AllMight6

    Жыл бұрын

    Because that’s what the daizenshu state the multipliers are

  • @malikhanoo6915

    @malikhanoo6915

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bottlemanepic3781 SSG Super Saiyan God

  • @apfitness3304

    @apfitness3304

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AllMight6 of course I get that. But that all the more reason we know that ssj grade 4 that they all use now is far past that. Saying ssj is only a 50x boost is disingenuous. When at the very least each grade before ssj2 is 2x the previous grade. Showing us the true power of ssj…so really ssj is bare minimum 200x. No one can fight that cause it’s really more; I only use 2x increase per grade to keep it low.

  • @ddd7254
    @ddd7254 Жыл бұрын

    This is the most clickbait title I have ever seen. All you are doing is explaining your opinion on Frieza, not explaining anything the Super manga or anyone involved in the production of Super has to say about Freeza. Moreover, It's likely Gohan Beast is stronger than Black Freeza.

  • @joshkrause2977
    @joshkrause2977 Жыл бұрын

    For now but this time ssj4 will happen in parallel with UI and ego. We got blanco Gohan (beast) people like ssj4 way to much for them to not work it in. They have been taking about saiyen instincts etc and UI and ego are not saiyen forms.

  • @dennyx3456
    @dennyx3456 Жыл бұрын

    But why the same transformation design???? Can’t they make a little cooler design???🤬

  • @mxjbmnh3sd587
    @mxjbmnh3sd587 Жыл бұрын

    Im sorry...but power lvl in Dragon Ball is Bulls***. Just rewatch how ssjr trunks survived the ssjrblack goku & zamasu solo Even ssjb vegeta & ssjb goku have to run away... This powers and transformations is for the plot. Nothing more sadly. But it was nice to hear that theories.

  • @laviii451
    @laviii451 Жыл бұрын

    Sooo where does dbs explain that friezes the strongest? It doesn’t

  • @CreamerOfTheDairySquad
    @CreamerOfTheDairySquad Жыл бұрын

    I sub to Dragonball channels. So is subbed

  • @MajinBird

    @MajinBird

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the sub

  • @craigalston2208

    @craigalston2208

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MajinBird now it's time for the Dragon Ball creators to do something with the MOST WASTED character in the franchise BUU . I thought finally they were going to do something with him in the TOURNAMENT OF POWER but then he went to sleep & they used Freeza . Then they fooled me again in the Morow arc / Goat-man arc or whatever they called it that came after TOURNAMENT and let Buu fight for about 11/2 pages then he was out again . Maybe they will let Buu and Freeza have a battle against each other instead of using the same old tired characters coming up in this arc ?? Wishful think on my part lol .

  • @MajinBird

    @MajinBird

    Жыл бұрын

    @@craigalston2208 at this point I might say so yeah.

  • @craigalston2208

    @craigalston2208

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MajinBird it's time to see if that warning that Freeza's father gave him NOT to fight Buu was deserved . Buu has been riding the bench long enough and it's time to get him back in the game so to speak .

  • @4donooo
    @4donooo Жыл бұрын

    i feel gohan still the strongest his movie gave him too much potential

  • @BrownHairL
    @BrownHairL Жыл бұрын

    The explanation is simple: extreme lazy writing + milking on nostalgia.