What do you think is the best fight scene?

@damnthatsrough970

5 жыл бұрын

Totally Not Mark goku vs vegeta the second one I feel like that one had more meaning especially for vegeta

@charlie7672

5 жыл бұрын

Tien vs Goku (Piccolo.jr arc)

@riiddisbuk2496

5 жыл бұрын

I like your example for this kind of topic. However I would say that Goku vs Frieza has more of such context than Goku vs Vegeta.

@nightwalker174

5 жыл бұрын

Totally Not Mark *Either Piccolo vs 17 or SSJ2 Goku vs SSJ2 Majin Vegeta*

@drizzziit1

5 жыл бұрын

The rematch between Goku and Tien is a personal favorite.

The fight choreography in Dragon Ball is _really_ underrated. There's a reason why the DBZ Anime was enjoyable even when they dragged the fights on.

@KanuandTeezy

5 жыл бұрын

DBZMacky They lit 🔥 kzread.info/dash/bejne/hIp5l86EoLKflrg.html

@Volkain10

5 жыл бұрын

The original concept for dragon ball had no action fighting however toriyama just happened to have a natural talent for drawing cool fight scenes. This lead to his editors pushing the series more towards fighting. You can see the shift clearly in the first budokai arc. Toriyama really is a genius for how to pose and angle fights pretty much the anime just reuses old toriyama poses redrawn with different characters all the time because their artists just are not talented enough to draw this stuff from scratch.

@eh-9994

5 жыл бұрын

Volkain10 Yeah I wish Toriyama was still drawing the story of Dragon Ball instead of Toyotaro

@fitzhugh7463

5 жыл бұрын

DBZMacky is have to disagree. I went back to watch and many fights haven’t aged very well

@x3n068

5 жыл бұрын

Volkain10 That’s false. Do your research next time. Toriyama created Dragon Ball because of his love for Jackie Chan movies. He had just recently ended Dr. Slump at the time. When coming up with ideas for his next story, his original concept was in fact a fighting actiony manga.

Clearly the best fight scene was Farmer With a Shotgun at full power vs Raditz

@AndrewsWideWorldofGaming

4 жыл бұрын

He killed him with his bare hands so to speak.

@TailsTheFox32

4 жыл бұрын

@@AndrewsWideWorldofGaming who killed who lol

@galactica1419

4 жыл бұрын

mr thiccos lol that wasn’t a fight, that was a one side massacre, farmer with shotgun didn’t even blink before radditz got destroyed

@pickle5337

4 жыл бұрын

@@galactica1419 it was so painful to watch as raditz was begging for mercy in his last moments.

@meme_god5075

4 жыл бұрын

mr thiccos the farmer 360 no scoped Raditz with ease 👌

so well edited

@herbbirb3766

3 жыл бұрын

15 like comment -uberdanger

@Frytoons

3 жыл бұрын

I’ll be recognized on KZread as the second man replying to a youtuber with over a million subs.

@TheUnderscore_

3 жыл бұрын

@@Frytoons Meh it's been over a year and there've been almost no comments.

GOD I LOVE THIS VIDEO! Phenomenal work man.

@matthewmccormick4055

5 жыл бұрын

Love your vids man👍

@prettyyboyyflacko4047

5 жыл бұрын

Cool your here jaxblades

@d1m3

4 жыл бұрын

You’re inspire me to be someone stronger than what i am now

@simp5690

3 жыл бұрын

i love watching your vids bro, how long until dbz tuff like the toons

11:54 "Crushed and broken, beneath an unconscious, naked child. Yep, I think I'm done here."

@Kan3V

4 жыл бұрын

"Veeeegeeeeetaaaaaaaa"

@ProcyonDei

3 жыл бұрын

Gohan: "I need an adult..." Vegeta: "I am an adult."

@brovid-19

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Vegeta, remember that time I teabagged you?

@TheRealMagicMan

2 жыл бұрын

"I have a child to break!" -cell

The Saiyan Saga is one of the greatest things Dragon Ball has ever offered the world. I mean, Goku flat out has to sacrifice himself in the first fight. He stomps Nappa, but against Vegeta he is downed before the fight ends. He doesn't get back up and finish the fight, he is broken. He gives Krillin the spirit bomb because he physically couldn't do anything else. The fact that the fights required teamwork and strategy made it a glorious arc. It kept the hero within range of the rest of the cast in terms of capacity. If they had kept this closeness of strength in the Namek Saga, I think it would have been more interesting.

@matiidesign

5 жыл бұрын

Usernameping what the tournament of power forgot, I wish goku only went Ui once, and damaged jiren to the point where the rest could keep up, him repeteadly getting up made the whole arc feel fake, I don’t know how to explain it.

@nnightkingj

5 жыл бұрын

Soko him going UI once and damaging Jiren would have made it a bigger ass pull than people already think it is it makes more sense for him to get it multiple times to better understand how to use it and they did do that at the end 3 of them it wouldn't make sense for the entirety of universe 7 to make it to the end

@tron9683

5 жыл бұрын

@@nnightkingj Goku gaining UI no more than twice would've been better, in my opinion. Toei using it more than that almost caused the same problem with SSB, where too much use of it takes away what makes it special. Toyotaro had the right idea by limiting the use of it.

@nnightkingj

5 жыл бұрын

Tron96 it makes more sense for him to use it more than once to gain better control and actually learn how to control/master it I disagree since blue is used literally every fight since it's introduction even Krillin UI was only used in dire situations against extremely powerful enemies and in the end he can't tap into it at will at this point

@davidlarkin1040

4 жыл бұрын

@Raiden the only good parts were The Ginyu Force and the Super Saiyan, imo.

Anybody miss the old Dragon Ball fights? Y'know, where they never had to rely on Ki, but had to strategize?

@damnthatsrough970

5 жыл бұрын

Some Guy Down the Street me

@toasterman4055

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, honestly that’s what made dragon ball so fun to me

@soundofmadness595

5 жыл бұрын

Some Guy Down the Street to be fair they barely strategized

@joekarta

5 жыл бұрын

The best DB fights were the Tournament battles where Goku constantly comes up with new techniques lol. Think the Jackie Chun or Tenshinhan fight

@goduzamaki4118

5 жыл бұрын

Me but not all the fights have to tho

Watching this after Toriyama's passing makes me appreciate the work ever more. RIP legend

The fact that Toriyama has such a range of artistic style that ranges from Dr. Slump/Dragon Ball to the most defined physiques of DBZ is astounding. Mans has it all for manga.

Woah nice background music 👀

@Pelusteriano

5 жыл бұрын

It's the original score composed by Shunsuke Kikuchi. It's fantastic. Watching DB and DBZ with this music is something else compared to the US score. I thoroughly recommend watching them with this music.

@stevangonzalez5908

5 жыл бұрын

@@Pelusteriano or watch kai with this score baked in already

@aive751

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah he knows, that's why he said it...

If you guys haven't read the Dragon Ball manga. Please read it. The fight scenes is absolutely incredible. Really feel like watching anime.

@L33PL4Y

6 ай бұрын

If only VIZ would stop censoring the fucking thing. They've butchered it in English with so much censorship ruining Toriyama's brilliant vision and original artwork.

Mark.. please please do more videos like this. This was such an interesting watch.

One small thing I would love to contribute to this masterpiece of analysis and explanation is that the fact that we know and see the burden the hero is going through makes the fight much more personal to us. We know that King Kai warned about Goku not passing the double Kaioken but he still goes for the Triple. Not only that, but he goes even further. He KNOWS he may die due to his body not being able to withstand the energy of such powerful move but he also knows as well that if he doesn't succeed, he will die anyway. So, between a "may die" and "will die" he takes his chances, making us more engaged into the story.

Wow I feel so bad for Piccolo. As a die-hard Piccolo fan since Dragon Ball. The same thing that makes Goku vs Vegeta so unique, original, and special could be said for Goku vs Piccolo. Remember that was the Final Battle of The Dragon Ball Series until their transition to Dragon Ball Z. Piccolo just can’t get any respect in the mainstream Dragon Ball Community. It makes me really sad. I loved your video by the way. I can’t wait to see what else you have in store. *sigh* ◉︵◉

@retromemories8522

5 жыл бұрын

Also a Piccolo fan. It's about time he got another power-up.

@nousername191

5 жыл бұрын

The problem is that most English dub viewers saw Z before OG dragon ball if at all as the original show was dubbed after Z.

@nousername191

5 жыл бұрын

@Sun Wentai 90 Hmmm. I've been a part English speaking fan community for a while now, so I can't really give an accurate representation on how French or Latin American fans feel about different parts of the series now (hell, I never saw the Goku vs Piccolo fight in English) but as a little kid, I remember that moment being HYPE with all my friends (Belgium in '99 and early 2000's)

@nousername191

5 жыл бұрын

@Sun Wentai 90 I always found it strange that it didn't happen like that in the english speaking western hemisphere

@NFrk97

5 жыл бұрын

Piccolo is so loved by the fans that people actually take the "He's a better Father than Goku" meme seriously.

the way this fight subverts expectations and utilizes all the characters we've been introduced to, as well as the *super* unexpected payoff, not to mention kaioken's drawback being utilized damn near perfectly, its the best fight in the series. i remember watching it years ago and the tension and twists damn near gave me a heart attack. its the closest dragon ball's ever been to perfection.

A: right hand man B: Defy him Goku: *NOnE oF ThE AbOVe*

Dragon ball had great line and choreograph. That's what separated DB from other anime. In movie industry I would say that only Undisputed is close to that level.

@monke12354

2 жыл бұрын

Naruto also had great choreography and lines

@blackjohnny0

2 жыл бұрын

@@monke12354 Nope.

@blackjohnny0

2 жыл бұрын

+ DB uses a lot of cinematography tricks - like bokeh, field of view, switching subjects in focus... It's fuckin masterpiece.

@XMehrooz

2 жыл бұрын

@@monke12354 lmaooo no

“See what I mean about how action scenes should advance the plot?!” - Lindsay Ellis Good breakdown, bud! Thanks for sharing ☺️👍

As a massive Dragon Ball and Pro Wrestling fan, I really appreciated this video. I find that the basic structure to a pro wrestling match pretty much applies to any piece of fiction, especially those that involve fighting and Dragon Ball is a perfect example of that. Great job!

That music

It is back

@uhuh.2232

2 жыл бұрын

Fax man finally, he deserves it back

5:09 Trunks speaks for the whole fandom right there

Goku vs Vegeta ain't got nothin' against Goku vs Krillin

@retromemories8522

5 жыл бұрын

A mostly forgotten but excellent fight.

@malik2363

4 жыл бұрын

Goku vs Piccolo too

@harleyoyelade9988

4 жыл бұрын

100% true best fight in the entire series hands down

@Unpopular_Duality.

4 жыл бұрын

Master Roshi vs Goku was amazing too.

@harleyoyelade9988

4 жыл бұрын

jjay8319 definitely

The way you structure your videos is so amazing. They're like university level essays, it's crazy.

In my opinion goku and piccolo vs raditz will be the best fight because of the sheer intensity and speed and all of the new lore it brought to the table

As both a pro-wrestling fan and anime fan I fucking loved this video. Good job.

You produce the best original dragon ball content on KZread

I’ve always wondered why I have rewatched this particular fight scene more then any other in Dragon Ball Z. Now I know

Geez, this reminded me how GOOD Dragon Ball used to be before the Buu saga, GT and Super. Good old times.

@cumekira70

3 жыл бұрын

even the cell saga struggles even though much less, otber than trunks vs freeza and of course gohan vs cell no fight really stands out

@adzo147

3 жыл бұрын

@@cumekira70 17 vs piccolo vegeta vs cell vegeta vs 18

@adzo147

3 жыл бұрын

@@cumekira70 android 19 vs vegeta

@christopherford39

2 жыл бұрын

@@adzo147 Can you really call Android 19 vs Vegeta a fight. Vegeta killed the dude in less than idk 2 minutes

@heroe1486

11 ай бұрын

​​@@christopherford39 Still was impressive, Vegeta first time ssj transformation and ruthless attitude we haven't seen since his fights in namek, also the recovery of his pride.

6:32 That line always gives me chills

Dude, do you edit your videos yourself? If you do, props on that! This one in particular looks great! Great video as well.

@katamesamurai7701

2 жыл бұрын

Yo the dragon ball code is here yessir Love your videos man,you and totally not mark are one of my favorite dragon ball KZreadrs man keep it up

My dream is to make an animated webseries centered around fights with a science fiction theme, but tha tell a story through those fists. Videos like this is what motivates me to make quality fights, not just random nonsensical fist violence with shouts. Thanks for the inspiration, Mark

This is, by far, my favorite arc, and I'm glad someone is giving it the respect it deserves with this video.

2:22 This is completely true. Personally, I'm a huge boxing fan, so when I order a PPV fight, I watch the whole thing. Anyway the cost is so high that I might as well get more bang for my buck...Nothing is more frustrating than paying 70$ for a PPV, only to watch the main event exclusively and for the fight to end in a single round. But I understand that people might not want to slog through 7 fights before the main event if they only want to order a boxing match for a guy's night or something. But yeah, given that I'm a fan, I have context. I may not know all the fighters, but I'll usually know at least a half dozen, if only passingly because I saw them fight once before. 8:30 If I maintain a comparison with boxing, things are quite similar. A championship bout is essentially 26 separate stories, if the fight reaches the 12th round. The fight begins with the fighters being introduced and the announcer doing his best to sell what's to come. You have each individual round, broken up in 3-minute chunks with the entire fight being a story arc. Each round tells its own story, has its own drama. Between each round you have a quick one minute resting period where each fighter's team offers support, both medical and tactical. And finally we have the end, where the announcer returns and declares the winner.

8:58 includes rackaracka video.. instant like

The Frieza fight had all of this and even more, which I why I consider it to be the overall best fight in Z.

During the Kamehameha vs Gal Gun. Vegeta could’ve easily won the fight hand to hand before that, everyone was beaten Goku was heavily exhausted about to collapse. If it wasn’t for Vegeta’s pride and personality that pushed him over the edge he would’ve won the fight which to me the reader says a lot more towards what’s at stake and the aftermath even humbles Vegeta showing development as a character.

But the most important part is... ATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA

@tyresefinney1985

5 жыл бұрын

Ilyas Olbrich that’s how Bruce lee fights so the atatatata thing is necessary.

@ibrothebro6864

4 жыл бұрын

@@tyresefinney1985 yea, every time Bruce Lee makes those noises, the sound waves cause a vibration in the cellular structure of the brain and paralyses everyone in a million metre radius. It also cause massive explosions across the planet... somehow

@tyresefinney1985

4 жыл бұрын

Ibro the bro I think it’s more like saying hiyah when doing karate. I don’t know Japanese culture but I’ve seen many shonen anime and video games have battle cries like this when fighting. For example, kenshiro or lui kang.

@ibrothebro6864

4 жыл бұрын

@@tyresefinney1985 Oh yea, your right. I used to do Karate and we were always instructed at the end of our Kata (a sequence of Karate movements) to release all of our spirit into one last scream/shout were it sounds like you are saying Hiyah. We did it to put as much energy and strength we had left into our last movement. The funny thing is I know lots of people who do Karate but say Dragon Ball is just a bunch of men punching and screaming

@pleasedont7439

4 жыл бұрын

@@ibrothebro6864 "DrAgOn BaLl Is JuSt MeN fIgHtInG aNd ScReAmInG" Goku using his speed to vanish and win against Krillin, Goku sacrificing himself to beat Raditz and teaming up with Gohan Krillin and Yajirobe to beat Vegeta, yes dragon bal is just men puching and screaming such a hater FUCK YOU

This is the kind of essay that I always looking for and praise, the kind that earns subscribers. Absolutely love this. My favorite match of the entire Dragon Ball running, glad to see I’m not the only one.

Thank you so much for seeing more than just violence in DBZ fight scenes ! It was very well explained and very interesting to watch ! :D

Hey, thank you. The funny thing is I knew this without even knowing I knew. I wrote and drew a fight scene with at least a few of these elements if not all. I at least was aware that there is character development involved. I even did it when I used to play with action figures as a kid and my brother would just have two characters/toys encounter one another, one would say "what are you doing here"? Then (punch) the fight starts. It used to upset me when we played together. There was no motivation. As example, I've seen it in one of my all time favorite movie fight scenes, the subway fight at the end of the first Matrix movie. The build up to that fight as well. One last I'll mention is that awesome last fight to Enter the Dragon where Lee and Roper were going up against all of the bad guy's henchmen. Thanks for sharing. This is excellent research for me. I might still be a little confused with the Double Down part. Will do some more study about fight scenes.

Damn man. Everytime I watch a video of yours, I feel like I'm in a class I actually want to learn in.

You should work at toei animtation right?

@jayku1624

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@thedude3065

5 жыл бұрын

I think he'd be a great mangaka

@agentr107

4 жыл бұрын

Every stupid line people ever come up with on every fanmade content

@cumekira70

3 жыл бұрын

hey naruto

this is one of your best videos yet! keep up the amazing work dude!

I wonder if Mark still has this opinion about this fight. You know, now that he has watched so many more anime like JoJo’s, One Piece and HxH. Personality I still think Goku vs Vegeta is the peak of anime fight and the base for all that come after it , but he changes opinions a lot so one must wonder

@kokutensai

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think so, even after hia recent HxH videos covering Yorknew he still has the same opinion of Dragon Ball

This was hands down one of the best videos I've watched in this site for some years. Thank you so much for this, man. I really needed it.

Honestly, I have to say this is my favorite video on your whole channel so far. The introduction segment is very nicely edited, it gets the point across even before the video truly starts, and gets right to the delicious jelly on the inside after it finishes, then everything is perfection from there. Cue the applause.

Great content Super Eyepatch Wolf

@alanmooreisrasputinreincar8106

5 жыл бұрын

Uh wut

@jimf14

5 жыл бұрын

@@alanmooreisrasputinreincar8106 it a joke

@alanmooreisrasputinreincar8106

5 жыл бұрын

@@jimf14 I know but it was a weird one

@coloryournight

4 жыл бұрын

Quinton beck I don’t think you understood it then.

Goku: SOLAR FLARE! Vegita: AAARRAGH MY EYES! IT'S LIKE SEEING FRIEZA NAKED! wait a second frieza's always naked... ARAAGHHE

@TheBluePhoenix008

2 жыл бұрын

Ouno

I remember watching this fight so many times on my vhs. I wore it down so much that entire scenes would skip. Still watched it every single day I got home from school.

Omg thanks mark!, i've been struggling on how to plan a fight scene in the manga that i draw

This the most analytical video you've done yet Mark, well done

You had me hooked from the first 30 seconds Edit: This video is why you’re one of my favorite KZreadrs my guy!!!

This is the same fight scene that pulled me into dragon ball z, then dragon ball. It started my joy of anime. It was the first episode of dragon ball I ever saw and I had to make sure to see every single episode because of it.

Props for EVERYTHING .. contents, video, editing, analysis . Love it all

Man, i'm seeing those Hajime No Ippo scenes in there and it really makes me want to hear your opinions on that show

Take notes Toyotaro

@eazylegend9614

5 жыл бұрын

Lil TAY #YungestFlexaUfDaCentery and toei most dbs fight have no choreography

@fozz539

5 жыл бұрын

Lil TAY #YungestFlexaUfDaCentery Everywhere.

@DONFOREVER

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/lWyL2qaTd63gY9o.html

@hanzohasashi844

5 жыл бұрын

@@eazylegend9614 yes but...

@T_money808

5 жыл бұрын

Eazy Legend lmao peep the new movie and you’ll take that statement back

Love all of your stuff, keep it up man. You can tell you love the show and I appreciate that

You can see how much thought and effort goes into Mark's videos. Great stuff!

This video is awesome goku vs vegeta is often overlooked

@lapplandkun9273

5 жыл бұрын

You mean the Saiyan saga one? That fight is regarded as the best in the entire series. It’s not overlooked at all

You need more subs and views man, that was a very educational vid, cause im trying to write my own dbz fight scene and this will help, hell I did everything you said even before I watched the vid, so its good to know im on the right track.

Definitely one of my favorite videos on this channel. Good job Mark!

Mark, you're so passionate about your work. Goodness, its inspiring. Each video you put out is an absolute treat, I dont even know how else to put it into words.

My favorite fight in the DBZ series.

@mcreator2000

5 жыл бұрын

Better than naruto

@williamwhite2568

5 жыл бұрын

@@mcreator2000 True

@mcreator2000

5 жыл бұрын

@@williamwhite2568 then y u got naruto as ur profile pic 🤔

@williamwhite2568

5 жыл бұрын

@@mcreator2000 omg lol

@raitoningusutoreto9851

5 жыл бұрын

@@mcreator2000 Naruto vs Sasuke >>>> all other fights.

everyone thinks shonen is fighting but its not about fists its about the idealistic struggles

You can see the basics of fight storytelling in the Princess Bride. "I am not left handed"

Your videos are so damn impressive to watch. Your writing, editing, voice, and the professionalism and analysis that you bring leave me in awe time and time again

This actually helped me out a lot cause I'm working on a Story where Vegeta found out Beerus ordered the destruction of Planet Vegeta and I didn't know how I wanted the fight to go down cause I'm on the part where Goku tries to step in because Vegeta is getting beat by Beerus but Vegeta wants to win without Goku's help

@MarcParker718

5 жыл бұрын

@im really fly why

@MLGRDR

5 жыл бұрын

@@MarcParker718 Just some stupid troll. You're doing something with your time that is useful, creative and something that he would never be able to. He's mad, because you're being productive by putting your brain to use unlike himself who does nothing for 12 hours straight. Fuck that guy.

@aive751

5 жыл бұрын

Ok, it seems interesting, but here's the thing... Beerus never ordered Frieza to destroy Vegeta. Friexa was scared of the saiyan's potential.

@MarcParker718

5 жыл бұрын

@@aive751 ik but I made it seem that Beerus feared the Saiyans more than Frieza did so he influenced the destruction of Planet Vegeta

@MarcParker718

4 жыл бұрын

@natalia eventually Vegeta was able to finally match Beerus and Beerus was ready to die at the hands of Vegeta but in a character development style Vegeta didn't kill him as an act of mercy he let him leave

hajime no ippo I see you are person of culture Totally Not Mark

@TwinkieMouse

5 жыл бұрын

@Nexus Mania Well it is a good anime my teacher showed me it it was so cool

This was so amazing I had to share. Very well said! My feels put into works. You sir are a genius! 💕🖤💜

You have an amazing way of writing this. It's like an essay, you came in with interesting facts that led into your question and point really well. You argued your opinions/facts and backed it up with amazing evidence. This was really well written on your part!

I'd really love to see other videos like this but if it were basically the same thing I wouldn't want him to do it

I love watching the martial arts

I LOVE your videos like this. It's like a whole new, deeper perspective than I could have ever had as a kid (about 10 years old as well when I saw the Goku/Vegeta battle)

Now this was definitely worth the watch, now I want to see if I can find those points in other fights I've seen. Thank you very much. ❤️

Thanks really enjoyed this video, I even felt like I was learning some stuff... Stop it! LOL 🤣 🤣

This is something that the Dbs Manga cant do am i right Epic Gamers?

@eazylegend9614

5 жыл бұрын

AzalTheSayian27 you are

@Azal-fd3wv

5 жыл бұрын

Eazy Legend REALLY?

@Azal-fd3wv

5 жыл бұрын

King Chance Or is he? *Plays X-Files*

@demonicious_

5 жыл бұрын

@@Azal-fd3wv Wow... that was really... unfunny.

@Azal-fd3wv

5 жыл бұрын

Demonicious I know that’s why i put “AM I RIGHT EPIC GAMER?” so ya i know

I love this video. Some people who call themselves dragon ball fans say dbz fights have nothing going for them but screaming and flashy attacks. You actually understand why dbz fights are genius.

Probably my favorite video of yours so far!

F yes its back boys and girls

Low hanging fruit incoming *top 10 anime battles*

@supertedanims9650

5 жыл бұрын

#5 wind vs empty trash bag.

@childlonk576

5 жыл бұрын

#2 Farmer with a shotgun vs Rabbid Cabbage

@zasekai7537

5 жыл бұрын

Top 10 anime betrayals

@SonofTiamat

4 жыл бұрын

#3 Saitama vs mosquito

Loved this video you had me from the beginning hook line and sinker thoughout breaking down the nuances of a fight scene. Very good video. Im trying to figure out what to write cause it really sounds like you know your craft fairly well. You earned my sub on this one keep up the good content.

The Goku kaioken times 3 vs Vegeta fight is something I go back to quite often. But one day I hope he makes a video of why the Goku vs Frieza fight is so amazing

But sadly The shine The cut off The hole The double down The finish This pattern was repeated in basically every fight, till dbs😅

@superexclusive452

5 жыл бұрын

TheOneAboveAll Gaming must’ve not watched every Z fight then

@benjaminpeters6729

5 жыл бұрын

There is usually a predecessor to the shine which is where the villain shines. There are also fights such as the radditz fight where the hero never shines. If anything the formula applies with the roles reversed.

@rutushi5093

5 жыл бұрын

@@superexclusive452 oh pls remind me which battles didn't follow this pattern, I must've forgotten

@MDHDH-iy7nm

5 жыл бұрын

@@rutushi5093 well it doesnt happen in freeza or cell arcs; sure freeza powers up and changes forms but i wouldnt call it the same formula as he does it multiple times and theres absolutely no hope for anyone, even goku, until a miracle happens, with Cell his goal from the get go was to become perfect so i dont consider those cutoff moments like this instance with Vegeta, its not like they were kicking his ass and he had no hope and he pulled something out that they they didnt know about, idk its really not the same, a bit similar, but not the same

@rutushi5093

5 жыл бұрын

@@MDHDH-iy7nm yeah I know but you can predict the outcomes, like even if the shows says there's no hope. You still can predict the outcome cause it follows this pattern. Even if the show diverts from this pattern for sometime, it just comes back to The pattern

Mark tryna influence DBCember

Vegeta offering Goku a chance to join him is a huge ad lib from Funimation. In classic western villain fashion, Vegeta gives Goku the "join me and together we can rule!" speech. It changes Vegeta's character a lot if this is the first time you are exposed to him. In every other language, the dialogue between him and Goku is pretty much Vegeta calling Goku garbage and explaining how the reason he ended up on Earth was because there were no formidable opponents on Earth. Just trash, like him. Goku says he feels thankful for having ended up on Earth. Pretty meaningful since you've seen all of his journey up until now. I believe Vegeta's last words before they fight are somewhere along the lines of "Let me show you a barrier you cannot overcome".

Very, very interesting! It is my favourite moment in the manga(especially when they face each other...the setting, the colouring...delightful). Your video gave me more insight(and flavour) of this scene. Thank you very much! From France with love

Not in super... now it's all about power levels. I missed the old strategic goku we had in z. Now he just roars and punches.

@droppedinbase5777

3 жыл бұрын

Cap

Writers: THIS FIGHT WAS A 100 EPISODE BUILD UP WE NEED TO PERFECT IT. Lets just end it with a tie so both sides are pleased ....

Keep it coming you’re helping me better understand the intricacies of writing.

This fight has never been topped by any other in the Dragon Ball series for me. It’s cool to learn that I’m not alone.

Never clicked to a Video faster

I can't believe Yajirobe was the MVP in the best fight in the history of anime. Now THAT is subverting expectations.

This is my favorite video of yours! Thank you for your hard work!

I would also like to say... look at their famous poses at the beginning. Goku is more defensive, calculated whereas vegeta has an offensive ruthless hands out stance

Unpopular Opinion: SSJ2 Goku vs SSJ2 Majin Vegeta Fight is slightly better than the Goku vs Vegeta fight in the Saiyan Saga

@GruelingFive8

5 жыл бұрын

I think I really do agree with you there. I loved both but Super saiyan 2 Goku vs Majin Vegeta was better in my opinion

@damnthatsrough970

5 жыл бұрын

The Game Grumps Let’s Play of Majora’s Mask I agree

@arafatromi5828

5 жыл бұрын

The ssj2 goku and majin vegeta fight was better because at that point in the series we were well acquainted with both characters and their motivation. Like deku vs bakugo 2 is better than the 1st fight. Ps I prefer ssj2 goku vs majin vegeta more too.

@inFAMOUS2078

5 жыл бұрын

no it wasn't, it was just some long pauses and turn by turn punches in the gut

@DragoRaRaRa

5 жыл бұрын

It's a good fight don't get me wrong, but it's nowhere near as impactful. It's just geets being geets

You made me realize why I love DBGT's fight scenes xD

@Kawons

5 жыл бұрын

whaat?

@the1whoplayz

5 жыл бұрын

What fight scenes?

Thank you for showing how much work and thought Toriyama put into this story. Too many people see Toriyama as a lazy, half-assed storyteller.

I love you’re videos man! You can easily see and hear the passion, dedication, and hard work you put into you’re videos. You put a lot of thought into explaining everything you cover keep up the great work my friend