Number 0: LF Cooler They were cooking when they designed his kit. What a blast to play as and against with such a long-time impact on the meta.

@aqn01

Жыл бұрын

and he was dead month later lmaooo

@garfrockbreadtroll

Жыл бұрын

@@aqn01 r/whoooosh

@patrickwilliamsisthegoat8110

Жыл бұрын

@@aqn01all because of beast gohan lmao

@banano2210

Жыл бұрын

@@garfrockbreadtroll people like you be more annoying than the people who miss the joke

@chuviis3508

Жыл бұрын

​@@aqn01you must be fun at parties bro

I’m sure it was super tough deciding the number 1 spot between red pikkon, green baby vegeta, blue buutenks, and yellow turles

@jimmi1156

Жыл бұрын

He was so perplexed that he decided to completely ignore them and go for 17. Justice for the ogs ✊

@edrickhuge4637

Жыл бұрын

Yellow Turles ain't that bad actually. The rest is trash tho.

@sesh517

Жыл бұрын

@@edrickhuge4637 whoosh

@edrickhuge4637

Жыл бұрын

@@sesh517 how is that a wosh moment, i got the joke, just diaagreeing on Turles since he wasen't that bad on Release, Dummy.

@drakesleftnipple6994

Жыл бұрын

Did you just call yellow turles “not that bad”

17 just entered the tornament of power and stole people's hearts, he got a very cool develpment during this saga, and he's doing the same thing in Legends. He just arrived, nobody expected him and he just got number 1

@jamesheuer79

Жыл бұрын

I agree. He has so much charm

@jamesheuer79

Жыл бұрын

Your comment 17 likes lol

One character that I thought was really well designed was GRN transforming Rosé Goku Black. I used him for quite a long time upon his initial release and I thought that a lot of people didn’t use him that much. His way of applying debuffs and gaining buffs with every card he used made him an even bigger threat the longer he was on the battlefield. I also liked the way they buffed him passively by gaining a full hand of cards rather than getting an extreme stat buff. I think honestly if you give him a few zenkai buffs for a little bit more defense and give him a good support he would be pretty good even today in accomplishing his goal.

@matthewplaatjies6296

Жыл бұрын

Agree

@knewbie4877

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@NetBattler

Жыл бұрын

He probably won't get zenkai anytime soon because of his kit is insanely good

@Pekara121

Жыл бұрын

„A lot of people didn’t use him that much“ WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? 😂 this guy was in every 2nd match dude 😂

@tomass7435

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I hope they make him usable again soon!

I think the biggest issue and I called it before it started is the summonable ultras. I think they really pushed this absurd level of power creep that unique designs and new mechanics don't matter nearly as much unless the unit is insanely busted in tandem. Ultra SSB Gogeta for example, EXTREMELY cool mechanic that also happens to be slapped on the most broken unit currently in the game lmao

@randomhooman1952

Жыл бұрын

Which ultra gogeta?

@Xenovation3334

Жыл бұрын

​@@randomhooman1952 Ess Ess Bee Gogeta

@nothaman1345

Жыл бұрын

@@randomhooman1952the one that’s the most broken unit in the game

@randomhooman1952

Жыл бұрын

Guys I got it Im stupid

@NetBattler

Жыл бұрын

@@Xenovation3334 😂

Why is no one talking about the GOAT red cell? His revival was so cool and the fact that youd have to get his green card off before he revived was so fun

@brian1976

Жыл бұрын

Fr I still use that Cell in pvp and he can still put in work

A unit I’d like to point out is Red EX Gogeta from the second Anni, a damn near perfectly designed EX character with strong support capabilities and pretty decent damage for his time that was a genuine option for Fusion Warrior. Now yes he was damn near impossible to get at a decent star level but that’s more a problem with the rarity then the unit lol

@NetBattler

Жыл бұрын

Him and gokua was the best ex unit in the game

@cicada47_

Жыл бұрын

I remember he held down the “Best EX in the game” spot for a long ass time

@AhmOOO

Жыл бұрын

Remember the one time my EX Gogeta tanked a rush from VB during his reign

@ManiacalPenguin_

Жыл бұрын

@@AhmOOO with his first cut active presumably?

@user-bu5jy9ww4u

Жыл бұрын

​@@ManiacalPenguin_most definitely

For me its actually the 1st anniversary blue goku both pre and post zenkai The way they handled him (ok damage and defenses early on , and when the defense runs out is when his damage passives fully build up) makes me feels like hes the most comfortable unit to use ( and the double vanish as well)

@NetBattler

Жыл бұрын

God I miss that Goku.....

@bhuvandeep1219

Жыл бұрын

Damn, now I want to use him. He was pretty fun to use on God ki. Once he unlocked all his passives, he was an absolute beast.

One day LF raditz will come one day 🗿🍷

@its_Criminal1

Жыл бұрын

🗿🍷

@imjuny

Жыл бұрын

or ultra fat buu

These videos where goresh just talks about a random thing in dbl are always so good. Keep up the good content 😎👍

I love these discussion videos keep it up man ❤

This video took most of us on a nostalgic trip through all the years of playing (and hating) Legends.

"Hybrids team class of October 2022" is definitely one of the best designed and thought-out teams I mean they didn't all come out together but when Legends brought out Beast and Pan they knew future gohan would fit right in alongside them

It’s completely personal bias but I’m putting ultra hit at like 4. I just find him so fun to play and the fact that they worked in an actual timeskip to his kit that’s really good but not absolutely broken is so cool. I can’t even get annoyed when it’s used on me because of how cool it is that they actually put it in the game.

Top 10 longest running metas would be a fire throwback too..... That purple transforming menace needs to be remembered 💀

@bricky7081

Жыл бұрын

We talking about Super Broly lmao? Cuz the Holy Trinity really did terrorize the meta with Super Saiyans for awhile lmao 🤣

@fyeGHoST

Жыл бұрын

@@bricky7081 i couldn't pull him and that shit still hurts to this day 😭

actually surprised goresh didnt mention yellow zenkai goku from the broly second coming movie

i love this type of videos! Big love for Goresh ❤️

I’d put zenkai kidku he did damage had support and endurance. He was so good people would run him on everything even b4 leader slot

@NetBattler

Жыл бұрын

I still love his green card

I agree LF gogeta blue was underrated but when people started used him more he was good his kit is good he has green card counter he doesn't care for cover changes for 3 times and when he builds up his ultimate damage he can nuke and plus he heals every time he comes in he just needs a zenkai or maybe a unique equipment and needs card draw speed

Yellow Perfect Cell was my main for 3 years when he came out. Also I just 13 stared him after he was at 12 stars for the longest time.

@NetBattler

Жыл бұрын

Do you have LF cell?

@kenbrown3432

Жыл бұрын

@@NetBattler No I do not. Neither do I have other LF's like Vegito blue.

I honestly agree with the characters u chose because those characters that were mentioned was really the peak of legends in some way, shape or form, and now we're just dealing with some ultras with broken gauges, with the exception of UL hit, it not broken, but it's really good to a person with skill, and also the weird thing is that we also are dealing with most 1% sparkings being better than most recent Lfs, in which is supposed to be the other way around, I just wished we had characters who are really good, but not enough to make the meta change drastically, Lf 17 in example, he isn't broken, he's a good balanced character and a good staple for the teams, we need characters like that and the characters that are mentioned in the video.

Surprised to see that Ultra Broly wasn’t on the list but I definitely agree with these choices (ZENKAI YEL CELL 🙏🙏🙏)

@lemong2548

9 ай бұрын

I asked toshi to zenkai him just for you Yw

I think a showcase video for each of these character on their respective modern teams would be dope

@bagofish8511

Жыл бұрын

Goresh I would actually love this

@bagofish8511

Жыл бұрын

1 match per each

I would honestly love for you to go and revisit the free-to-play trunks as he is still a solid unit and pairs well with the green zenkai. Sparking future Gohan goes to go very well in hand together

Man I still remember when most people including youtubers were dunking on Future Gohan while I was shredding with a PO team and FG splash (before leader slot was a thing).

For me it's definitely green Goku black, card draw speed along side green cards that gives him ki and he gets cards, with a main that also gives him more cards really made him relevant for a long time. and him, red cell, and pur Vegeta had Great synergy at the time when green Goku black was at his best, you can easily get blue cards and green cards with that team.

Great video goresh. We need a updated top 10 best units in the game.

My favourite is Yel Tapion. I like him alot and still use him here and there till this day and his kit are well designed for striker movie/P.O team. If zenkai unit, i think is was zenkai LF Yel Piccolo or LF ssb Vegeta, they support the team and can tank full combo or rush.

I also love the design for pur revival Gohan, with his support and count reduction in ssj and his really great DMG as ssj2

I don't think you have to enjoy fighting the character if you think about it if the character is annoying they're doing their job right if they're a lot of fun to play against they're probably quite easy to beat

A pretty good designed character was revival Frieza. I've seen him used on tons of teams, his main role is to just use his main before he dies and tank the rush with his revival.his team heal on switch out, and sub count reduction made him pretty good and is still used today and he was pretty fun for me, I don't know what everyone else thinks. Just like Lf first form this guy is basically a staple on LOE, the only thing he needs is a good zenkai buff or another good unit to help him out

Haven't played legends since the Ultra vegito came out and have not watched Goresh since then (sorry homie) and I am in awe that so many units that were meta when I was playing ARE STILL META

Now I’m curious what Goresh’s lists of 10 worst designed characters and 10 strongest characters on release would be

Loved this video but when are we getting a new top 10 best units in the game?

LF SSB Gogeta was a very well designed unit imo. Not broken but good enough to keep the PVP environment healthy. With a couple of Zenkai buffs he can still hold his own.

Top 10 hypest characters on release would make an interesting video

Regen would be good if we got a ultra DKP with your concept of no RR,with zamasu in combo would be good

Can you do top 10 logical units, or units we would’ve seen coming already

BLU Hero Hercule is designed to annoy the hell out of the other player and he still succeeds in that role to this day

I feel like Yel Kid goku should be a contender for best designed Zenkais he was the best unit in the game for a good bit and he did everything at the time

@Alan-nu5le

Жыл бұрын

he was worth the grind haha

I haven’t started the video yet but based on his 3 things he basing them off of, future gohan is gonna be high up on this list.

you know what is the most funny and common thing between most of the good design units is the fact that people thought that they were underwhelming and mid when they released(not indicating towards rev ui . also to me a good design is a unit with 2 things {1] that supports his team in almost all meta shifts and no doubt the above characters did exactly that or are doing that. and by support i don't mean damage inflicted buffs but other intangible things. for eg lf mvp 17 gives the bulk to eat special moves and ults and gives sustained dmg penetration which helps the other battle members more than we give it credit (2) is not star dependent like how lf gogeta blue or future gohan were

I love lf yellow ssb gogeta. Especially his ult nullifying revive and his cover change special cover (3)10 sec immunity

I think LL 17 is pretty reminiscent of LL Future Gohan in that both revolutionized intangibles and the concept of enhancing any unit/team you slot them with. When LL Future Gohan first came out (along with leader slot) you could slap him on any team as an endurance support option with disruption to where the whole team became just that much better using the additional tools provided. 17 is almost exactly the same as you can run him almost anywhere and the team is automatically better in almost every way thanks to the intangibles 17 is bringing. Overall, the best aging/designed characters are the ones that offer the most universal intangibles. Giving lacking teams a powerful option to run whilst not making the best setups in the game too obnoxious to combat is, while difficult to create/balance, what Legends needs to try and produce more of in my opinion.

Goresh could you make a zenkai priority list? I've been saving rush medals for awhile and I want to know who I should give them to.

Man i love these videos

That Yel Perfect Cell zenkai would go crazyyy

41:52 Something that is fun to play and fight against. There is absolutely no purpose for a mechanic/character that absolutely makes the other guy feel like dogshit and the user feeling the happiest he's ever been, because a video game is about both of the people playing being happy/having fun, so a mechanic that is fun using/playing around should be neat, not easy to balance, but neat to se nonetheless (which i think will never come up from this game but hey, a man can dream right?)

I was honestly rooting for that yellow cell to get a Zenkai and he should've gotten over the SBA Goku and I think androids could use a new yellow unit. But I agree with this list

I was surprised to not see Blue SSJ Bardock at all

very nice to start the video with Hit staring into my soul

Green Mai and Red God goku could qualify for best bench units of all time.

This is a pretty cool video actually. Sometimes I don't really care about the strongest and worst units in the game

Hey goresh now that you've done the best designed units in the game. It be interesting to see you do the most annoying units to fight in the game's history

@alban3519

Жыл бұрын

He already has made that video

@whydidmydadleave6111

Жыл бұрын

@@alban3519 I don't see the video all I see are videos titled "is this unit the most annoying in the game"

I just used that blue Toppo on a Universe 11 team in the last Battle Royal for Rival Universe tag. Got 10/10 wins and the gold title.

I would say that a character that could perhaps fit at least an honorable mention, is Goku Ssj4 LF Post-Zenkai, he is very good, but not unbalanced, at least for me, both using him and facing him is a lot of fun

@NetBattler

Жыл бұрын

He deserve to be "unbalanced" tbh because GT needed core unit

Definitely Green Baby Vegeta. He had the best design in DBL history he lasted forever back in og meta

@NetBattler

Жыл бұрын

SS tier unit right here ladies and gentlemen

@mehdighidi5881

Жыл бұрын

The only green Gogeta ULTRA is afraid of

LF GB would be number 1 if he had Card Draw Speed

I think my 5 honorable mentions are Grn Goku Black, Yel Tapion, Vados, revival Cell, and Blu Gokua. Gokua is there because he was fine to play against in my experience and it was always great to annihilate LF Gohan with his toothpick

If you do read this Goresh could you make an argument for the Zenkai Yellow Super Saiyan Goku from the Second Coming Broly Movie to be an honorable mention? Thought he was a really well built unit all around. Just my opinion so I’d like to hear yours if possible.

Dbl Gas two laws:1. purple characters are broken 2. and yellow characters never fall off in the meta

I think some contenders could be GRN Transforming Goku Black,YEL Tapion,Zenkai SSB BLU Goku,Tag 4s, LF Full Power Frieza and PUR 17. They all had great designs while not completely destroying the meta and they weren't quite the pinnacle of annoying to fight like Ultra Gogeta Blue,Pan and Cooler

@zulqurnainali7150

Жыл бұрын

True.. although tag 4s are little bit on the broken side with the green AOE and then non stop combos with element reversal. They're my fav nonetheless ♥️

@patricklitterallyit4164

Жыл бұрын

@@zulqurnainali7150 you could say the same about Android 17 with his buff removal,main lock for 15 counts and Future Gohan's Card destruction on Cover change while also stopping blast cards tho tbh

We hope you continue to enjoy Dragon Ball Legends

Yellow transforming vegito had some of my animations

I look at Perfect Cell units in Legends is almost like AGL LR Gohan in Dokkan. Every meta team at the time(i.e Regen, Androids, Future and Powerful opponent) he's always been a strong option also considering he is on a fair bit of tags. I can't think of any doodoo perfect cell units on release.

Thoughts on YEL Zenkai Goku from Broly Second Coming and YEL Tapion? They both felt really strong for the time they were released and fulfilled clear and important roles for their team

@zaryabK-vi8fh

Жыл бұрын

but they didn't last long right or not I don't remember cuz tapion sure didn't

I must start of saying that the video was great and I’ve no complaints whatsoever on your picks and I agree that these are great designed characters. Only thing is that I feel like you mostly only picked units that where doing some kinda of support or tanking. In my opinion not having any very offensive character is kinda weird, like Red LF Zamasu is one of the best designed character in the game’s history as he had a very clear role in his team. Lasted in the meta for over year and you don’t see that often with pure offensive characters. I cause the only complaint I can see people having is with his green but I mean his role was to have a very strong offensive capability.

I liked the video, but would’ve preferred if you had been more specific on how exactly each character lived up to their placement and how well each ability you brought up matched your values, rather then just saying which things were well designed and attaching a seemingly arbitrary placement. Anyways, for my own honorable mention, I’d have to go with Ultra Hit for being the best designed ultra character in the game. I don’t feel like anyone thought he was overbearing or underwhelming, but he’s still very good without being extremely popular or ubiquitous like other ULs. The time skip requires skill to use and to play around/counter, and hitch keeps fighting Hit fun for both players.

Best designed is android 17 ion wanna hear it...I actually feel like an mvp when I use him...tht double vanish suits him very useful as he was in the tournament of power

@vishaljaikumar5082

Жыл бұрын

Man's an ign reviewer💀

Dont forget green goku black, I recently fought one paired with whis and he kept spamming green cards for a solid 30-40 seconds continuously , not fun for me but I bet he was having a blast XD

Recuerdo que el Cell que está en el puesto 2 era una bestia en su tiempo por la carta verde y además el cambio que tiene de teletransportación

I agree with all of them except F2p trunks,not because he was bad but because he was very simply designed .My favourite designed character is Lf yellow Gohan

PUR LF Cell should be on the list because his damage crazy espacially against hybrids and he has the 2nd best anti revive which destroys 4 DRAGON BALLS! & reduce all your Ki and Ki recovery which puts you in a very vulnerable state

Great list but you could have put some other units like zenkai blue ssb goku or transforming goku black

I ran a cover change team with yellow cell for ever and him plus lf ssj2 gohan where my 2 go to units forever

Bardock looking at longevity like: 👀

7:08 zamasu actually counters rising rush if green card is pressed after the enemy rushes in mid range.😊

I’m honestly surprised that Yellow tapion wasn’t in this list I feel like he was a solid character with all the stuff he brought sealing strikes and blast, making ur enemies take their time with RR cuzz they didn’t want to waste it and having cover null on green card and top of that the after dmg when he died.

Monthly reminder that I’ve been playing since 2nd anni and FG is the only LF (besides blue -> UI now) that I haven’t pulled.

I actually expected to see the PUR 13 movie Trunks rather than the f2p one. Had crazy damage and his hand refresh with his transformed main ability at the time was balanced out by a timed transformation. And was used for a long time as well.

Glad Beast wasn’t on here. As much fun as I have with playing with my 6* version of him, I hated fighting him the 5 days after his release where I didn’t have him. I literally felt like I could not win if the enemy had Beast Gohan.

I’m suprised grn fat buu wasn’t on the list I feel like he served his role on regen pretty well. His healing and support to the team was really good

Good design can be defined differently for many people, primarily because there is a level of objectivity/personal bias surrounding the balance of fairness and effectiveness in a unit's kit. The ability to seal and disrupt constantly may be unfair, but wholly effective at fulfilling a disruptive role - where do you draw the line? Well, I suppose for me it's striking a balance between the intent of the character's kit, effectiveness of tools given to fulfill that role, character's ability to play off-role and finally; skill ceiling and ability to define character mastery. The last point in general can make units much more fun to learn, but these units tend to often get dismissed as "gimmicky" by the community (LF YEL SSB Gogeta, Namek Goku etc.) In a game such as legends, certain generic off-role charcteristics such as tanking, card draw speed etc. are becoming staples of unit design. These aren't inherently toxic, but can be if they allow the character to cover too many bases. YEL Future Gohan wouldn't be very fair if he did great damage, in addition to the rest of his kit etc.

Valiant choice in not picking red buuhan for number 1. Goresh knew buuhan was too op to qualify as balanced

We hope you continue to enjoy dragon ball legends!

@theguyfromDMC

Жыл бұрын

Thx bro............

@LTElight

Жыл бұрын

🤓

@ZMB_21

Жыл бұрын

-🤖

@Jay-jf9rb

Жыл бұрын

This joke lame and old my boy let it rest

@Xenovation3334

Жыл бұрын

Let it go bro

I really think Lf great ape vegeta is one of the most well designed characters. His endurance, his sub count reduction on blue card, his aoe green card that nullifyes covers, damage etc… he could give up so much to a team, from my personal opinion he was super good and wait for him that he gets a plat

I think an underrated best designed character is the zenkai blue goku that came out with the zenkai for green broly

You should do the most TOXIC characters in this game like hero Hercule

My goat future gohan aged like fine wine

I just know mui was crazy when he first came out I’m a f2p and got him 9 stars if they gave blue vegeta a little bit more love they would of been a deadly combo but I got top 10 k as a f2p on my older account just because of the team I built around mui

Guys, don’t forget my boy Red Bojack. Bro did everything. He was very well designed to fit his team and has a really unique transformation mechanic.

@MRWANg-pz9oo

Жыл бұрын

Bido

I agree the list but for number 3 I would put ultra ssj goku because his plat and ultra ability (15% Afflicted damage per saiyan tag 15x5= 75%Afflicted damage) the only Problem you will have with him is that he can't tank like that so he's just a glass Canon

Bruh you gotta hit us with the event exclusive team showcase🤣

Can anyone help with the raid? Still can’t find a match

Bro what do you do to counter the lag in pvp man 🔥🤙🏽

Yo This a cool one

A character i think was well designed was red ssg Goku. His biggest issue was just he came out too early. God ki was not a tag really that early in the game. But i find him to be a good unit when god ki was being fleshed out and even now he is a decent bench.

Weirdly feel nostalgic seeing Cell. Hopefully he gets a decent zenkai.

Before I watch the video now: GRN Jiren is the first character that i think about when talked about Good Designed. Cover Null, Cover Change, good animations, and his damage was good. He was simply good. Sometimes i use him for fun, even to this day. I enjoy him since years and will continue to do that.

You should rank every LF animation

@Xenovation3334

Жыл бұрын

Tag SSJB Goku and Vegeta number 1

@its_Criminal1

Жыл бұрын

@@Xenovation3334 blue gogeta for sure

@soulofsomething6651

Жыл бұрын

@@Xenovation3334 They completely overshadowed animation-wise every Ultra when they released