Dragon Ball GTFS Commentary | Episodes 28-29
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Goku gets turned into a kid, Vegeta gets turned into a baby, It's cinematic parallels
@Womb0123
28 күн бұрын
Goku gets turned into a kid, Vegeta gets turned into a baby, It's cinematic parallels
@KingOfDarknessAndEvil
28 күн бұрын
Goku gets turned into a kid, Vegeta gets turned into a baby, It's cinematic parallels
@AwesomeDemomanGaming
28 күн бұрын
Goku gets turned into a kid, Vegeta gets turned into a baby, It's cinematic parallels
@cassidydankochik3294
28 күн бұрын
"It's like poetry, they rhyme"
@Vegas242
28 күн бұрын
Did I accidentally start or join my own hive mind what the heck happened 😨
Baby tries to take over Popo Popo: I'm giving you 5 seconds and I started counting 3 seconds ago.
@infjmale91
28 күн бұрын
"Bitch, don't tell me what to do"
@Saternalia
28 күн бұрын
Pecking order
@Selfish_Neurotic
28 күн бұрын
Baby: Alright, alright! Can't blame a parasitic artificial organism for trying. Popo: I can. I have. Goodbye. Proceeds to Garlick Jr the entire Baby Vegeta arc.
@augustoeremita7940
28 күн бұрын
@@Selfish_Neurotic I can, BYYYYEE
@pacmonster066
28 күн бұрын
cuts to shot of Baby being sent down the lookout at top speed
I love in the dub where Buu calls them "average fighters" so Mr Satan beats them all up and they get back up and Satan is like "hey buu, I thought you said they were average fighters??" Buu, licking a lolipop "average for Buu!"
@jrpludacrous
28 күн бұрын
Average fighters, but a brilliant treat
@2-bit567
25 күн бұрын
So.etimes they really cooked with those quips
Buu being immune to Baby is pretty much "man ya cant get me with this, i invented this crap"
@Eis_Cold
28 күн бұрын
"you dare use my own spells against me!"
@LordKingler
28 күн бұрын
"DO NOT TAKE ME FOR SOME CONJURER OF CHEAP TRICKS!!!"
@TioFranTV
28 күн бұрын
No, you absorb people inside you pink ball, I am the opposite, get inside people, like with vegetto, but it works
@argentstorm2861
28 күн бұрын
@@TioFranTVtell that to the fat guy and Vegetto. He got ALL up in them.
@dford192
27 күн бұрын
"do not cite the deep magic to me..."
Mr. Satan hiding within Buu is low-key one of the most brilliant things in Dragonball history.
@PGO5490
28 күн бұрын
Both from a comedic and intellectual standpoint
@forgot7en
24 күн бұрын
No. One of the most brilliant things in Dragon Ball history is how the Dragon Balls became corrupted from being used one too many times. That was the most and only interesting thing they ever did in GT and is arguably the most creative thing they ever did on the show, easily followed up by the ending. It's a shame it was wasted on one of the worst anime series ever made, though, but still. Another incredible idea was the Androids/Cyborgs 16, 17, and 18 completely subverting expectations as villains by never harming people in the prime timeline. They SAID they would kill Goku, and they beat up the cast, but they never killed anyone, even though in Future Trunks's timeline, they destroyed a lot of the world so hard it turned it into The Terminator. Or how about Vegeta allowing Babidi to corrupt him willingly for the massive power boost, but actually retained his conscious mind, doing easily the smartest mindgame in the whole franchise, making you think he's finally gone evil again just to defeat Goku, while also counting on beating Babidi too and possibly rule the galaxy, only to realize it's too late to be evil again because he has a loving family and friends, because he's a far better person now, because he's so far above that sort of thing. His good conscience wins out and he completes THE most deep and best storytelling Dragon Ball could possibly ever conjure and nothing has come close to Vegeta's whole arc to date. And you think Buu eating Mr. Satan without absorbing him is "one of the most brilliant things in Dragonball history"? What dimension are you from where that is true?
@TankHardcheese
24 күн бұрын
@@forgot7en I ain't reading all that autism. I'm happy for you tho, or sorry that happened.
@forgot7en
24 күн бұрын
@@TankHardcheese Oh look who is an expert on autism. Please tell me more, oh Great Autistic One!
@TankHardcheese
23 күн бұрын
@@forgot7en Jesus Christ, you're cringe. Why are you like this? Why go on massive angry tangents about things that don't matter? Go outside, bruv.
In regards to Baby Vegeta's clothing change. Nano machines, son.
@edwinseda897
28 күн бұрын
They harden in response to physical trauma
@TheRedMage01
28 күн бұрын
@@edwinseda897 YOU CAN'T HURT ME GOKU!
@kildaver
28 күн бұрын
Makin' the mother of all omelettes here, Kakarot; can't fret over every egg.
@bgvo4373
27 күн бұрын
Are Goku’s magic SSJ4 clothes nano? Are Vegeta’s clothes nano when the Oozaru transformation winds down?
@kildaver
27 күн бұрын
@@bgvo4373 ...it's *hair.* That's the only thing it *can* be.
Japan: “Will Goku survive? Find out in the next episode: _’Goku fkning dies”_
@kaneo1
27 күн бұрын
"I've been dead before."
@kildaver
27 күн бұрын
"You spend half your time training, and the other half dead; sometimes, BOTH!"
I'm gonna say, Giru is a champ. He was willing to square up to one of the strongest beings alive to help Trunks. Also, Buu being immune to Baby's influence is so interesting, but makes so much sense.
@mrroboshadow
28 күн бұрын
its pretty much his playbook, of course he knows how to out play him
@farizr.batarai8271
26 күн бұрын
And it's explained so well it's because Buu expels the baby parasite from his body before it could spread
@forgot7en
24 күн бұрын
Buu is technically "pure evil incarnate," so, it just goes to show that a supernatural force can't be stopped by technology.
I wish Majin Buu had Mr.Satans hair and mustache when he absorbed him.
@bodenking
28 күн бұрын
Full head of hair or balding?
@AlchemixIncTM
27 күн бұрын
@@bodenkingI think it should be balding that way Buu's head tail can still be there.
@SkyDeity4
27 күн бұрын
Just imagine, Mr. Satan's personality, backed up by Buu’s power. It's a real missed opportunity in my book.
"Buu eats Pan and Satan to keep them safe." That's a funny sentence.
@Ethan-Hensley
28 күн бұрын
“Hop inside my mouth, if you want to live.”
@sarafontanini7051
27 күн бұрын
finally vore has saved the day
@WildBluntHickok
24 күн бұрын
"The goat legged folk must be protected!"
@DirectorOfChaos9292
23 күн бұрын
@@Ethan-HensleyI love Finding Nemo
"Give me all of your hatred! And also some new clothes! Mine got torn up!"
Gotta say, I think baby is a brilliant concept for a villain and man… him taking over all the beloved cast, man..
@Ryoku1
28 күн бұрын
As they said in one episode, GT is a lot of great ideas done badly.
@mrcwillis6970
28 күн бұрын
@@Ryoku1 I know, it’s something I’m always reminded of, shame it couldn’t be a lot better than what it is.
@Sonicfalcon16
28 күн бұрын
@@Ryoku1 So...what would super be? The reverse?
@itsOZone
28 күн бұрын
@@Sonicfalcon16 supers a bunch of rehashed ideas with good fan service and nostalgia, but theyre ideas they know people like/work.
@marhawkman303
28 күн бұрын
What scares Goku most? having to fight his friends!!!
Tank top , white hair baby vegeta is the best baby vegeta design in my opinion.
@HabitualThinker
28 күн бұрын
I think he looks really good in this design, more infected vegeta is what I liked about baby
@NeutralGuyDoubleZero
28 күн бұрын
Definitely his most threatening. Final form Baby has a unique look but stops looking like Vegeta, and isn't really that intimidating lol
@bearerofbadnews1375
28 күн бұрын
The hair of Baby Vegeta 2 looked better on the Protagonist of Dragon quest monsters Joker 1.
@UnwantedGhost1-anz25
28 күн бұрын
Obviously.
@jeremiahjohnson2519
28 күн бұрын
I feel like GT was bad enough to the point where if it was rebooted nobody would mind.
One thing I always found interesting about Baby's powerset is that he's basically a Reverse-Buu. They're both amorphous entities that can use other people's powers, but Buu was created/summoned by magic and Baby is a science experiment. Buu absorbs people into his body, taking on their physical characteristics. Meanwhile Baby enters into other people's bodies and overwrites _their_ characteristics with his own.
@sQuibleable
27 күн бұрын
Such a cool concept
It's funny how getting eaten by Buu has been turned from terrible body horror into a safety measure.
IF tfs ever decided to do "The Baby Bits", I would want kid Goku to NEVER call Baby by his actual name, instead just insisting he is talking to Vegeta. Kid Goku: Hey Jeetz! Baby Vegeta: I am BABY. Kid Goku: No, no no. I'M the one who's a kid now, see? Even got my tail back. Baby Vegeta: You don't understand, I'M BABY VEGETA. Kids Goku: And I'm Kid Goku. Baby Vegeta: Just...shut up and transform.
@user-pc3we6gf6j
26 күн бұрын
"GT Gags" would be another good title.
Popo: "Okay Baby, let me tell you about the pecking order ..."
@bgvo4373
27 күн бұрын
Baby: didn’t you get killed by Boo?
@donovanbradford8231
6 сағат бұрын
Popo: Hahahahahahaha
Vegeta: Kakarot became a kid? Then I will became... BABY!
2:43 TFS Dende would joined Baby in a heartbeat
@pridefulmaster1390
28 күн бұрын
“Okay, so you possessed the entire planet and now you wanna possess me?” “Pretty much.” “Yeah not a fan of that, so if ya wouldn’t min-wait does that mean you possessed Gohan?” “He was number 2 on my list, green stuff” “…if you beat up his daughter, I’ll allow it. Just give me some alone time with him.” “Deal!” “Sick. Could you also kill that HARLOT he’s married to later?”
19:00 I kinda think the stamina limitation of Super Saiyan 3 makes it one of the most interesting transformations of the series. A power up with cost is part of why Kaioken was so compelling
@alexanderrobins7497
28 күн бұрын
Also it doesn't render the previous form completely useless. *Glares as Super Saiyan 1, Super Saiyan Red, and whatever BS*
@ZombiedWolf
28 күн бұрын
It honestly should be the most powerful transformation, with the downside being that if you don't win within 5 mins you are screwed.
@DeathKnight5608
27 күн бұрын
My headcanon is that SS3 drains so fast because nobody has taken the time master it like Goku and Gohan did with SS1.
@waiyon1951
27 күн бұрын
@@DeathKnight5608 back then as a kid i always just imagined or thought SS4 is like the perfected form of SS3 they finally gained the body to finally use the powerful form without the massive drawbacks.
Personally, I think Baby bragging about his (stolen) saiyan power is meant to play into the idea that Baby is becoming He Who Fights Monsters; so consumed by his vendetta against the saiyans that he ultimately becomes the very thing he's trying to get revenge for: an alien monster terrorizing another world for kicks.
@tobiogunyemi7631
27 күн бұрын
Yep. That's barely even subtext really.
@sarafontanini7051
27 күн бұрын
it gives him a different vibe comapred to past villains. He's using the sins ofthe saiyan race to jsutify his increasingly unjustifiable actions, and seems to almost want to BECOME a saiyan himself jsut so he can have their power for himself.
@Aldini_to
27 күн бұрын
the moment he goes ozaru baby is pretty much that, he turns into what erased his people
@theradionicrevival8068
27 күн бұрын
I mean that’s just what Scott was implying. Not that it didn’t make any sense, just that GT did the goku black story beats first
@JayceCH.
27 күн бұрын
Goku Black, but the way they did the scene puts more emphasis on the "look cool transformations!" thus why they are saying this is just Goku Black.
I love Baby’s final form, the black suit with the golden shoulder pads, the silver hair, it just hits for me. I get why people don’t like it but I liked it
Here’s a fun fact! You never hear a fusion character say “I’m running out of energy!” It’s always about time, meaning that fusion’s supposedly have infinite energy at the cost of a varying time limit. This explains why Gotenks can go SSJ3, because a time limit that simply defuses the two is far less demanding than working with limited energy reserves.
@bananaslamma35
27 күн бұрын
It might also just be that the reserves are so unbelievably immense that it's never really going to be an issue, plus as far as I remember the only time a fusion fought an opponent that it didn't completely shitstomp, it was SS1 Gotenks against Super Buu. Every other fusion has always been massively more powerful than the opponent it fought.
@kusakabe3264
27 күн бұрын
yes but we also hear every time "they must have used too much energy and burnt out their time!
@FinnyThePoo
27 күн бұрын
Gotenks has access to an extra, near boundless, energy reserve from their super ADHD
Baby promised once he ruled the galaxy they would worship Popo as a God, that's why he's just going with it
@trenco13
28 күн бұрын
Canon now
@deadlynchunky7912
28 күн бұрын
If they did GT abridged, I hope they would consider this lmao
@BlaireSnorlax
28 күн бұрын
@@deadlynchunky7912 "Yeah, I made the Black Star dragon balls. What did you think my plan was to finally rid this rock of the human infestation?" - "Mr." Popo
@boiyado6717
28 күн бұрын
Abridged Popo wouldn't give a shit about people worshipping him, he could have done that long ago.
@sintanan469
27 күн бұрын
Baby promised to hook Mr. Popo up with that dank space kush and a 55 gallon drum of LSD in exchange for taking over the planet.
Interesting thing in the GT film a Hero’s legacy old Pan shows Goku Jr a picture of her holding the black star dragon ball at Grandpa Gohan house. Which I’m assuming the group stopped their first offscreen before going to Dendes.
@bgvo4373
28 күн бұрын
A Hero’s legacy was actually written and made before the end of GT, so it wasn’t able to predict or follow up on the ending .
Hot take I actually like Baby Vegeta’s forms, they’re not ground breaking but it’s unique in some aspects. I like how the longer Baby is controlling Vegeta’s body, the less Vegeta looks like himself, showing the Tuffle side is overpowering the Saiyan side of him. Just wish each form was given more time to show off
@aarongaray2595
28 күн бұрын
Yup especially super baby 1 he's there one moment then gone the next. Like give that form one episode before jumping straight to 2.
@WTFHAX93
28 күн бұрын
Super Baby 2 is pretty much just Adult Baby, only with a black bodysuit (compared to Baby's blue one) and Vegeta's head made to look like Baby's. Their facial structure is pretty much identical at that point.
A story about a pair of pliers? That must be quite the Tale.
@kingmasterlord
28 күн бұрын
I tried to reply to your other comment, suggesting buu's majin symbol become a championship belt with Hercule absorbed.
@JRTIntervencion
28 күн бұрын
*snort*
@SuperSayianWarrior
28 күн бұрын
Nope, but a Pain in the Ass
@alexanderrobins7497
28 күн бұрын
We get to see a young Goku with his pants off again. Been awhile since that has happened.
@C24U_
28 күн бұрын
@@alexanderrobins7497 Having just finished reading the DB manga in full for the first time, I was a bit surprised it took me two hands to count the number of times we see Goku's dick in the series.
Thank you Kaiserneko for that Yu-Gi-Oh! Fact. That quistion always came back to me😁
@ssj4jason737
28 күн бұрын
It's even more questioning when in Pyramid of Light the cards in the dub actually look like how they do in real life
@rikowolfin4984
27 күн бұрын
@@ssj4jason737 I'm pretty sure that's because they were cards given away with the movie itself, not cards they were actively selling at the time. By the time that movie might have been playing on live tv ( which I don't think ever actually happened ) those cards were still not released as public/legal cards to play and one of the cards related to the movie that was given out with ticket purchases was literally impossible to play because one of the requirements to summon it was Blue Eyes ultimate dragon, a card that didn't get released for 2 more years after those cards were given. But ya, that's why they could probably get away with it because it was both a Movie that adults would have to purchase a ticket to go see, and not a tv show.
@voltran7677
26 күн бұрын
@@ssj4jason737 for the record PoL was dubbed to japanese, it was an 4kids original film. but id also assume that the cards could look like the actual cards because it was a movie, it even got a cinima release, which would mean it doesnt need to adhere to tv restrictions
I like to imagine Baby doesn't try to infect Mr Popo because he could tell Vegeta was deathly afraid of him and took the hint.
Is it hot in that office? Lani's sweating like crazy. Kaiser's dry as a bone. Don't die, Lani. You are Chris Sabat's successor. It's your destiny.
Gohan casual speech about killing Pan is one of the most darkest moment in Dragon Ball, feel a bit disappointed you didn't even mention it
Not having a random fake ad break right in the middle of this episode feels like a missed opportunity considering the conversation in the first half
@christopherlitzner8445
24 күн бұрын
anyone else feel like that would have been the perfect spot for their ad they did at the beginning to have gone instead?
25:55 - Guess you could say Pan's reaction to Goku's death was rather...deadpan~...but I feel like Baby's final design was meant to be a twisted version of the Saiyan armor Vegeta first wore. Pitch black instead of blue and the shoulder pads angled upwards instead of slanted to the sides.
Asking questions on baby vegetas magically appearing new outfits Me: how the hell did goku get pants after turning into a great ape?
I like how in Baby Vegeta's second form, he gets red square nipples. Look at my red square nipples. LOOK AT THEM!!!
OH MY GOD a sudden wave of nostalgia came crashing through me when Lani said "pliers". Love reliving the show from you guys' perspective, y'all make even watching GT seem almost like a good time.
I always thought the latter two Baby Vegeta designs looked like a Mega Man X villain.
@ClericOfPholtus
28 күн бұрын
Admittedly Baby already is basically a Mega Man villain in concept We never do fight machine infected humans in that series, seems like a natural high drama conflict for the blue bot. Both regular and X were hard programed to never harm humans
Lani mentions remembering pliers. Me, who hasn’t seen GT in what feels like 50 years: Ah yes, I too remember the literal ass-pull…
It sort of feels like that cell saga editor meddling. Like they came up with base form baby vegeta and somebody goes "Neat what's his next form?" and someone else was like "Maybe we should make sure he doesn't LOOK like vegeta because he's a good guy"
"I have many questions Most of them starting with 'What' and ending with 'Fuck' " Is now my favourite Lani quote. I will absolutely be stealing that.
@ClericOfPholtus
28 күн бұрын
Brings me back to my favorite Dr Gero quote "Alright first: WHAT!? Second; THE FUCK!?!?"
I love when Lani goes on a rant about his thought process with some of the creative decisions in this show
Baby is such a neat concept for an antagonist, as he’s more like a virus than some galaxy conquering emperor or predatory cyborg! This whole arc had me so anxious when I saw this as a kid!
6:24 He was Heihachi Mishima from Tekken 3 to Tekken 6. He ha this great for voice for big buff muscle dudes, which is why he worked so well for Fist of the North Star as well. 18:56 Yeah, I just figured the only way to bypass massive mana drain of SSJ3 is to have a dead body that doesn't tire or be a fusion of two. That's a way to use the form without it overstaying its welcome. I always appreciated it being the nuclear option, so you knew stuff was serious. And then Super happened and, of course, it had to bring in new forms and they just got no drawbacks like this (maybe they a line here or there, but it has no consequence on anything), so Vegeta didn't even bother ever achieving SSJ3.
@WTFHAX93
28 күн бұрын
Yeah, and funnily enough, after Daisuke Gōri sadly passed away, Unshō Ishizuka took over for both Heihachi and Mr Satan's roles, until *he* passed away too. RIP to both of them.
@kusakabe3264
27 күн бұрын
wh... you speak as if ssj4 doesn't exist in this very story already
@user-ez9ng2rw9c
26 күн бұрын
@kusakabe3264 Yeah it's still completely irrelevant in this story too. I guess it's probably not fun to animate and I think it was never a very popular transformation. Ssj3 is only useful in the movies.
Baby Vegeta: "Ha, I have taken over your family!" Goku: "Ah man, well could you at least cook me something to eat, Baby?" Baby Vegeta: "Wha-uh? I... don't know how to respond to that."
Whoever came up with the title "Ultra-Yikes" definitely had no foresight
@angrybrony
28 күн бұрын
Or to much foresight.
I always thought that with Super Baby 2 changing clothes is just his parasites changing the colour of vagetas skin. Now that im older though. Yeaaaaaa i got no clue lmao
@MattManDX1
28 күн бұрын
SSJ4 Vegeta would be bare chested but would regrow his tank top when he powers down back to base form. The animators just hoped you wouldn't question it.
@alexanderrobins7497
28 күн бұрын
I think of it as his actual skin layering on top of Vegita's skin.
@tigerwarrior1787
27 күн бұрын
Bulma got that GOOD TECH
@sarafontanini7051
27 күн бұрын
could be jsut his goo seeping out and covering his body before form into clothes
I swear that Z did something similar with spoilers in the opening. I swear as a kid near the end of the Frieza saga they updated the lineup at the end of the intro to have SS Goku but Future Trunks is also present and its like who the hell is that.
@user-pc3we6gf6j
28 күн бұрын
As Kaiser said in a previous episode, that is how Japanese people approach spoilers.
@robbybevard8034
28 күн бұрын
The english dub just straight up used the post-Namek version of the credits. Had Goku going Super, Vegeta was in the group, showed super Trunks, it was a ridiculous spoiler... especially considering that version of the show didn't even make it to Super Saiyan and stopped in the middle of the Ginyu force. Even though the Japanese credits had a non-spoiler version of that group lineup for the first hundred episodes. They also mixed in a ton of footage from the movies and Nappa blowing up planes to be more action-ey I guess.
@noszelias
27 күн бұрын
In the italian intro we literally get spoiled the entire first half of the sayan saga in the lyrics, with also seeing goku going super sayan at the end. Shit was wacky
I've seen Yabai become "Oh damn!" "Oh crap!" and "Oh shit!" but "Yikes!" is definitely my favourite.
I do think the gold armor could have really worked thematically if rather then a transformation this was a uniform Baby and soldiers wore. Basically him doing his own version of saiyan armor to further mock them.
Wasn't there a joke that Baby needed 1 more saiyan to become a SSG baby thing? 🤣
@ClericOfPholtus
28 күн бұрын
True, think the magic number is 5 saiyan pouring power into a 6th While in this saga it'd 4 saiyans pouring power into Vegeta and then later Goku The former we see here and the latter giving us a sparklier super super saiyan 4 to finish off Baby
I feel like it would have made WAY more sense for Baby and the other infected characters to try and infect Goku instead of just ganging up on him I mean, so far, Baby's proven he's not stupid. Even with Vegeta's body he would know better than to take his chances This is also where Buu would come in. Buu would sense Goku, Trunks and Pan are back and *immediately* bolt to Goku's home with Mr.Satan, ruining the trap. This would also reveal that Buu has essentially spent all this time being the last line of defense for all of Earth. Albeit unsuccesfully due to how quickly Baby can infect people This would not only make Buu more relevant, but it would add some poetic irony. The monster that spent days terrorising Earth is now actively trying to protect it and he repaid Goku and Vegeta for letting him live by preventing Goku from being assimilated. Indirectly saving the day.
@MattManDX1
28 күн бұрын
That's pretty much what he did for Pan, and she would prove pivotal later in their next fight
@aarongaray2595
28 күн бұрын
I think baby vegeta says at one point to goku that unlike his friends and family that goku's fate was death. That everyone but goku would be assimilated.
@sarafontanini7051
27 күн бұрын
well baby wants to kill at least ONE saiyan and he chose that fate for goku. Likely because he recognises goku as the apex of the saiyans despite goku not being as murderous as other saiyans.
I think the skin suit is like actual Baby’s clothes so when he strengthens his control over Vegeta, Vegeta becomes more like Baby in that regard too, because when they separate he’s still dressed like that
I remember hating Baby as a villian and actually had a fanfiction in my head of Frieza beating the shit out of him like he did Vegeta on Namek
Got an Idea: Kaiser and Lani REALLY need to try Dragon Ball Transformation for the GBA. It's so weird and it has a Co-Op feature. It covers the quest for the dragon ball and it has pretty good music. fun shiet
@gustavolopes5094
28 күн бұрын
Kaiser and Lani might not, but I will! Thanks for the rec.
TFS sponsor ads are the only ones that I will always watch. 😂 They always make me laugh.
Fun fact. The current Hercule VA is also Torgue from Borderlands 😂
22:29 Actually I've never asked people how they felt about baby vegeta's final form everyone recognizes. If anything I can tell he looks more like a different character than just being GT Vegeta OC do not steal, but I think that final form it helps him stand out like the less vegeta more baby elements in there. I want to know what the comments would of rather had or do you they like what baby vegeta ended up looking like
@aarongaray2595
28 күн бұрын
Super baby 2 is an ok looking form I can respect it's design. But I love his previous forms more especially Super baby 1 because that form I is a nice mix between vegeta and baby together. It's just a shame he didn't last long in that form.
@sarafontanini7051
27 күн бұрын
I don;t dislike it at all. I jsut wish we got to see baby himself more, though seeing him possessing vegeta for most of the arc is kind of the point since he lacks power himself and jsut steals from others. He's the ultimate parasite. But yeah this helps him stand out as his own entity apart from vegeta and helps show how twisted he is in twisting vegeta's form to suit himself more. It really underlies what a self-centered monster he is.
@Dragofrost7777
27 күн бұрын
I liked his final form the most. The outfit he wears looks like his origional outfit is shining through the more Tuffleized Vegeta becomes. It makes you feel like Baby is truly taking over Vegeta and getting comfortable finally.
With Baby you can't say "magic bullshit" to explain clothing changes and such, what you *CAN* say is "NANOMACHINES SON!"
25:15 here is how I take it, you can see stuff starting to come out of Vegeta's body. I see the clothing at parts of Baby's body seeping through his body and skin as he takes more and more control. I don't even see this as a full form but rather an in between state between the first and final form
I always imagined the black clothing he gets is him covering himself in the same energy as the spirit bomb. I like the idea because it just shows how deep babys hate is and how his hate will end up turning him into the very thing he was meant to destroy. A world conquering monster.
11:41 Wonder how shows like Beyblade and Bakugan get by that hurdle then, since you can also technically buy the toys there too. Maybe it has something to do with the cards, since Bakugan's card art is different as well.
MAAAA, NEW GTFS JUST DROPPED
It's mesmerizing how 25:51 is perfectly synced with Buu talking
"I have many questions, most of them starting with 'what' and ending with 'fuck'." Me too, Lani. Me too.
I do love the moment where Baby starts punching the air and the force of the wind impacts Goku. That move was dope.
Goku goes SSJ3, gets slapped "Ouch, I quit! Goha- oh. Gote- oh. Geet- oh. Oh crap. Time to pull something out my butt! Where dem pliers at?"
I think their hate for second form Vegeta-Baby is from how it wormed its way into fighting games like Budokai Tenkaichi. The show runners probably saw it as a transition to the final form, but having it be it's own thing in the games made first-time fans think there was more to it. Then they watch the show and see it only throw one punch lol. As for the final form's clothes, you could say Baby got enough energy to make his real body act as an exoskeleton and cover Vegeta. But is Baby's final form really disliked in the community? It's sleek and the golden shoulder vest makes it stand out. But I'll agree the earlier form he had while attacking Earth was cooler.
@aarongaray2595
28 күн бұрын
Totally agree 100%
@user-pc3we6gf6j
28 күн бұрын
It is also much more interesting to look at than Super Saiyan But With Blue Hair or Golden Freeza.
@carso1500
27 күн бұрын
I wouldnt say I disliked it but I never really liked final form baby Vegeta, he always looked to busy for my tastes
@aarongaray2595
27 күн бұрын
@@carso1500 same I don't hate super baby 2 either his design is a little too much.
I just assumed that when baby gets stronger his host starts looking more like him
Nicks hair looking great DAMN
I have watched every episode up until now, and only just now realized the "FS" is "four star" and it's G-TFS
@sashasscribbles
28 күн бұрын
I always thought it was GT-FS, as in Grand Tour Fucks Sake But now I think about it you're probably right haha
@xXLiLJokerXx
28 күн бұрын
Nah it stands for GT F'IN SUXS
(Vegeta) " Im stronger than an Antlion, if an Antlion were THIS big! [-----] (Giru) *Snickers* (Vegeta) " Eh... [------]" (Giru) "GI RU RU RU!! *TItty guns*"
i like to think of the baby forms as the parasite gradually spreading its infection, till vegeta is a full tuffle
love you guys!
Honestly I really love Baby Vegeta 2, the design reminds me of a parasite in nature that infects bugs and makes them look weird so like birds can eat them
Vegeta is a big ol baby
@ShadowSkyX
28 күн бұрын
"I wanna be a super saiyan! I wanna I wanna I wanna!"
@TheRedMage01
28 күн бұрын
So it's just Vegeta with hair dye?
@pfagan24
28 күн бұрын
@@TheRedMage01and a horrific hair cut.
@bigcj321
27 күн бұрын
Not yet. Give it a few more episodes.
For the Baby transformations, my only explanation is that his transformations basically him assimilating Vegeta more and more. His form starts to look like him when he's outside of people, Vegeta's clothes start to match his own, the hair starts to look like that head tentacle Baby has and his eyes look fully cybernetic instead of just having lines across them. The more he powers up, the more his own qualities take over Vegeta to the point that he is literally just a meat suit for him to wear as a base. Kinda reminds me of putting on Power Armor in Fallout, there's a base below it but it does nothing except hold the stuff that's actually useful. (Also yes, Goku Black is just Baby Vegeta, that's always been clear as day to fans who like all fhe Dragon Ball media)
My headcanon is that ssj3 actually burns lifeforce and that it’s not a true transformation. Goku is just forcibly overclocking his body’s processes, which results in the hair growth. Goku was probably trying to develop a way to use Trunks’s grade 3 form without the drawbacks and accidentally ended up with something he was only able to use effectively while dead because he had essentially unlimited vitality. After 7 years dead he had unknowingly become complacent and so was surprised when the form failed against Kid Buu. The form was never as useful again as it was vs Fat Buu once he was alive again, and that would explain why he uses it so infrequently afterwards.
Thank you for the video.
I love that Super Saiyan 4 is a literal ass pull. As in pulled a tail out of his ass with giant pliers to make it work
Best design easily for Baby Vegeta is the white haired, tank top style look, it's clear that GT was trying to recreate a lot of the Majin Vegeta aesthetic with the dark eyes and everything, but they should of fully committed to the look and of had that be the final excluding golden great ape for Vegeta.
Hey, I liked the ad break aside about ad breaks. I think it's fun and cool for you guys to take more time to go into stuff you're interested to talk about stemming from your experience watching and talking about the show you're reviewing, without feeling strictly constrained about talking JUST about the show. It's fun and informative and it's cool, in a podcast kinda way.
What Kaiser is talking about is product placement in children’s shows. Essentially there are bills in the US and Canada that prohibits the commercial advertising of products that might be showcased within what is considered a children’s TV program.
@user-pc3we6gf6j
28 күн бұрын
I know they do in Québec, but is it like that in the rest of Canada as well?
The closing theme on this video is cozy fire, I love it
Knowing the design behind yugioh feels like closure. Thank you for that. ❤
You did well with the slow ball Lanni. KN is just jealous.
Not me getting jumpscared by “Data brokers!” when I didn’t realize how high up my volume was 😅
I think the appearance of a commercial wherein the characters use drops to relieve red-eye within the episode where they get red eyes is some peak marketing.
That scene of Mr Satan inside of Buu was one of the first times I remember seeing anything about Dragon Ball Not exactly the most stellar introduction to the series
I can explain Baby Gete's new clothes with two words..."NANOMACHINES, SON"
Possible hot take: though the Baby Vegeta designs are not done as well as they could be; I much rather prefer them to the over used color pallete swaps that is the transformations that is in DBS but only for the simple fact that there was an attempt to make a unique design where as color pallete swaps are the bare minimum of coming up with a new design.
Another great episode!
Man I haven't thought of the pliers in YEARS
I actually think baby is actually a really good arc not just in gt but all of dragon ball. I am kinda biased though because ssj4 has always been my favorite.
@carso1500
27 күн бұрын
I think like with all GT it has very good ideas with wonky execution It is by far the best arc in GT thou but that is not a high bar to clear
Imagine how awesome this arc could have been if the audience didn't know Baby had survived and escaped. Goku and pals get back to Earth and everyone's acting off. Not overtly "Invasion of the Body Snatchers", but still weird. They split off for their own reasons. Pan gets attacked by a crowd including Videl, and has to be bailed out by Buu because she doesn't want to kill anyone. Trunks gets attacked by Vegeta and then turned. Everyone converges on Goku as in canon, and here we get the reveal that Baby has taken over *everyone* . That would be the scariest thing they ever do in Dragon Ball.
3:48 You could probably count on one hand the number of times Goku has restrained himself from eating when he's hungry, and Chi Chi is probably the source on every count lol
Invasion of the baby snatchers
Thank Dende, I can‘t sleep and this is exactly what I need
Another thing they could've done if they just *had* to have Babygeta's 2nd form: Have Goku go SS3 and start getting the upper hand in the fight. Babygeta decides to do his transformation, but Goku attacks him halfway through and _interrupts_ the transformation, leaving him stuck in that incomplete form. The attack uses up the last of Goku's stamina and he drops out of SS3, and a pissed-off Babygeta slaps him around a bit before completing the transformation sequence.
I’m just always so happy to see Mr. Satan.
Gotenks didn't have a problem with SS3 because Gotenks learned SS3 while alive and had enough time to get used to the form while in the Time Chamber. Goku explicitly hadn't mastered the transformation in Z, and his ability to transform immediately with no preamble in Super, and even do it while he's picking back up after the exhaustion of Ultra Instinct Omen, shows that there never actually was an inherent problem with the form as everyone assumes. Goku was just shit at using it at the time.