The biggest difference is the tires and possibly driver, at the end you see that the GT catches up to the mazda when grip is not an issue. Takes less distance to reach 140 km/h

Realistically, whoever is interested in these cars will mostly decide base on what kind of driving experience they want out of it. As you can see, the 2 cars are practically the same. Yes, the MX5 is a bit faster, but realistically, that's not a big deal unless you're racing cars around this power left and right all the time. Whatever out there that beats an 86 is going to beat an MX5 as well and whatever is going to lose to an MX5 is also going to lose to the 86 as well. It comes down to whether or not you want a convertible. That's the difference here. Being able to experience the rush of an open top at this price point is incredible.

@nikoyochum6974

3 жыл бұрын

the driving experience is a lot different. The BRZ is more of a pure sports car feel. It is more planted and you feel every undulation in the road more. In the Miata, there is body roll, but it is incredibly controlled and feels more "fun" than the BRZ. The Miata also has a really nice interior (granted, the one I drove was an ND2 GT model). The steering wheel feels straight out of an Audi and it has shockingly little road noise for a soft top roadster. Comparatively, the BRZs that I have been in (granted, none since the 2017 refresh) feel cheap on the inside and have a lot of cabin noise. If not for how small the Miata trunk is, I would buy one today. As it stands, I'm planning on waiting for the 2022 BRZ and then making a decision.

@mojojoji5493

3 жыл бұрын

@@nikoyochum6974 complaining about cabin noise when the other car is open top 🤦🏽

@nikoyochum6974

3 жыл бұрын

@@mojojoji5493 the BRZ had more cabin noise than the ND2 I drove. I think part of that is the stupid sound tube in the BRZ

@mojojoji5493

3 жыл бұрын

@@nikoyochum6974 if ur smart enough you would just take it out lol

@nikoyochum6974

3 жыл бұрын

@@mojojoji5493 brilliant idea, let me just go buy a $30k car that I immediately have to modify to make it usable. The torque did alone kills the car.

Mazda upping the displacement from 1.5 to 2.0 was a wise decision. It's a modern day S2000.

@Zach-yg4tv

3 жыл бұрын

i wouldn’t go that far but alright

@anatoliygultay4633

2 жыл бұрын

It never had a 1.5. Went from 1.6 to 1.8 to 2.0

@postalpancho

2 жыл бұрын

@@anatoliygultay4633 ND originally had a 1.5L. The American market never got the 1.5 in the ND but the 1.5 was the standard ND engine. Thankfully someone made the decision to give the Miata a 2.0L

@anatoliygultay4633

2 жыл бұрын

@@postalpancho oh cool, didn't know that. I would not buy a 1.5, the 1.8 is weak as it is lol

@postalpancho

2 жыл бұрын

@@anatoliygultay4633 I don’t any American would be willing to pull the trigger on a 1.5L “sports car” unless it had a turbo. The 2.0 suites the Miata very well. I see them at auto cross and they are usually top contenders with minimal modifications.

What holds back the GT86/BRZ is the way it puts the power down the Subaru engineers did an really bad job by making the car's power dip where it needs it most in the mid to high rpm range judging from the dyno sheets.

can't even beat the 155hp miata. what does it even beat?😂

@wetwaredistributor6770

3 жыл бұрын

In drag? Nothing. Neither of these cars are supposed to be fast. They're supposed to be affordable & fun to take to a track or hit curvy backroads with, and they both do it well. No shit they're slow, everyone knows. That isn't the point of these cars. That's like making fun of a fork because you can't eat soup with it.

@user-pm9cs4py9q

3 жыл бұрын

@@wetwaredistributor6770 fair point, but it still slow tho xD

Same tires?

Congrats Subaru engineers your car lost to the hairdresser movil

A little short on specs, but assuming this is the ND1 Miata with the 2.0 liter (155 hp) and not the 1.5 liter (129 hp) since you mentioned a 30 kw (~40 hp) difference. ND2 Miatas (2019+ 181 hp) should be even faster.

@Nickoboss29

2 жыл бұрын

Different thing with the GR86...

@mrporsche4236

2 ай бұрын

Not really. And the gr is actually 250 hp not 228 and its just slightly faster

Was this done at high altitude? Slow times for both cars and an obviously better launch for the Miata.

That weight difference is hard to beat

omg mazdaaaa

Mazda bby ❤❤❤❤

What year MX-5?

@tonycoughlin9256

4 жыл бұрын

@Big boy Hahaha I got the 30ae mx5. Favorite thing I've ever driven

@MonicaHolly143

3 жыл бұрын

@Big boy Hahaha mazda are only 32k dude the one ur referring is a speacial edition And mustang will give u head ache in canyon drives it's obvious the cars dont have the same purpose

Is the win due to Power to weight ratio?

@broshido2745

4 жыл бұрын

No because the gt86 has prius tires

@dandup570

3 жыл бұрын

The MX5 also has more of its weight over the rear axle than the 86

The miata always smile on you.

This is why i want the miata

The 86 driver was afraid 😂

New initial d?

Use the same driver for both cars and the results are gonna be more accurate

The 86 launch was inhibited by traction control you can see a good 0.5 second lag in the 1st gear acceleration. This isn't a torque or power to weight issue. Earlier torque does next to nothing in a 1/4 mile when comparing two short gear manual cars because both cars are into second gear at above 4k rpm after a few seconds and both will stay in the upper rpms until the test is finished. Early torque is great in the day to day driving, and in fairness it was a factory tuning choice on the boxer that can be fixed in 5 minutes with an open flash tablet if that's important to the owner. Miata owners are mislead by these tests as they are always performed on stock tires, when in practice the stock rims get used for snow tires and almost all these cars will come used with wider summer rubber. Mine has 255/40/r17 and rubs slightly on full lock with lowering springs but does not rub with the stock rims nd snow tires. The wider rim/tires came free with the car otherwise I would have chosen 250/40/r17 personally. Anyways, the biggest differences are going to be tires, traction control envelopes, and track length. Even the new 2022 GR86 has 215 tires, though I believe they are Pilot Super Sport now. Factory lowering springs and Brembos are available for all 86s for those seeking more control. Mk4 Miata ND2 Power / weight 173 ps (171 bhp) / t 2013 GT86/FRS Power / weight 162 ps (159 bhp) / t Mk4 Miata ND1 Power / weight 148 ps (146 bhp) / t Mk IV 160 PS MX-5 2.0 RF 144 ps (142 bhp) / t fastestlaps.com/models/mazda-mx-5-rf

Wow! Mazda mx5

I some how knew the Miata was gonna win

@thatblerdgamebanger1739

3 жыл бұрын

This doesn’t surprise me at all… My 2015 Toyota Corolla sport was faster than the 86 in a straight line. The 86 was built to go sideways more so than it was built to go forward it’s a lot of fun around corners but in a straight line you’ll fall asleep behind the wheel before you find any real joy within it.

@Chair991

3 жыл бұрын

@@thatblerdgamebanger1739 I ain't saying the 86 isn't slow, but your toyota corolla sport would stand no chance.

Very bad launch for the FRS driver.

@mojojoji5493

3 жыл бұрын

They should of done repeating drags

the mx5 is just plain faster.

Mx sama miata beda ga

@wahidhuda20

3 жыл бұрын

Sama

@filthymiller1809

3 жыл бұрын

@@wahidhuda20 ok

Hey nice car, Is that really a true AE86? More legacy than you have pal, Supra! *Smoke em..*

@2K-Tan

4 жыл бұрын

@Big boy Hahaha Not saying it is. Just taking a dig at the modern "86" bc I've never quite thought its worth all the hype it gets. Also the 86 does not win in a longer straight. I've had my '16 2.0 GT up to 140.

@gintawaseekami9339

4 жыл бұрын

Let me race the Miata Il Smoke him !! Put a proper race driver in the toyota you knobs lol

@2K-Tan

4 жыл бұрын

@@gintawaseekami9339 What? Neither got a spectacular launch and The MX-5 still walked him dude. I own a '16 ND Miata and it might be a little closer than that having raced a stock GT-86 but the ND still gets it everytime.

Bro this is all wrong, terrible driving... I personally have raced modded and stock miatas and I win every time (digs and rolls), plus I ran a 14.9 quarter mile while bone stock... the guys in this vid clearly cannot drive

@thequarantinefamily5230

4 жыл бұрын

Bull crap Hahahaha no way it’s beating a new Miata

@2K-Tan

4 жыл бұрын

Then why do I beat stock GT-86's in my '16 MX-5? 🤔😂

@mojojoji5493

3 жыл бұрын

It’s true the 86 has better top end it should of been even actually with the Miata winning by a bumper not 2 car lengths

7,75 to a 100kmh ? gt86 is proved to get 6,5 stock, get a better driver

@M4B21S88

3 жыл бұрын

6.4-6.5 sec mph with the manual, automatic in the 7-7.2 sec... i realize this is km/h but you saying itll do 6.5 sec in km/h would put it in the 6.1 sec mph, which they just dont do. Unfortunately, bc its a great looking car... Lets see what the 2022s do with that improved torque band and power bump!

As a 86 owner I just wanna say... Jy ry mos kak😂

Having owned both that is utter rubbish as the 86 is considerably quicker over 1/4 mile than the Miata.

@Kevinpark46

4 жыл бұрын

Not sure about that, mx5 has a way better power to weight ratio in 2019 model. They both have similar amount of torque, however in the mx5 you get peak torque at 4000rpm vs 6500rpm in the 86. If you look at 0-60 figures in both the mx5 and 86, the mx5 is quicker. Watch other track reviews and its even quicker on track as well.

@thequarantinefamily5230

4 жыл бұрын

Bull crap the Miata is definitely faster then a 86 if they are both stock. I can beat both of these cars with my Hyundai Elantra GT N Line I have a 7 speed auto it flies through the gears ⚙️

@thatblerdgamebanger1739

3 жыл бұрын

lol

@GastonMaqueda

3 жыл бұрын

​Absolutely no. Just the tires make the difference. With the same tires the GT86 beat the Miata. And change tires is not a mod is a regular mantanience work for all vehicles. You need to change it anyway every 60.000 Km

@mojojoji5493

3 жыл бұрын

@@GastonMaqueda exactly the skinny Prius tires will spin even at low Hp lol could feel a real difference when you switch to cup2’s