Stop arguing about Ford vs Holden. Really we should be fighting against the common enemy, the imports.

@alexxxp89

9 жыл бұрын

U legend hahhahah

@christiann6350

8 жыл бұрын

Why not cyclists?

@habibtawk3386

6 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@OLLDOG

4 жыл бұрын

Re Boi and then

@shapy1188

4 жыл бұрын

Holden and ford not australian mate hahahah we all know that u just said its autralian car just because they changed the badge to kitten holding a tennis ball 😂😂😂 4 cylender imports destroys ur v8s anyday and yet they 4 cylender

I'm a Holden fan but appreciate the fpv 's but why couldn't they make it more even a race and do 2 autos together then 2 manuals ... that's what I want to see!!

Ah Ford vs Holden... I don't give a shit which one is faster by a millisecond... I'd have either of them, both great cars

@keanvanderwesthuizen3476

4 жыл бұрын

Good stuff mate

@nbnguitar

4 жыл бұрын

Too right.

@rayjaymor8754

3 жыл бұрын

Traditionally I'm a Ford bloke --- but I have to admit the VF is a damn nice looking car too... If I could afford either I really would have to consider either.

@MrKrueger88

Жыл бұрын

Great comment 👍

Racing an auto vs manual is pretty stupid. You guys don't seem to know much about drag racing

@kaycroall565

4 жыл бұрын

And what are you? American? I came here for the aussie sports figures

@dwaynegolding5579

3 жыл бұрын

They did say ’shave half a second off the time if it was an auto’

@EnVyRe4per

3 жыл бұрын

@@dwaynegolding5579 excatly maybe not even half a second quicker if that ford was an auto

This test was absolutely bullshit. Manual vs Auto? You guys have wasted a whole heap of everyones time and simply created more internet battles - I can't help but think this was your intention. 5+ seconds for the GT-F 0-100??? Do it again and do it right next time. This was a joke!

@EASYCARMODS

9 жыл бұрын

A stock XR6 Turbo pulls those sorts of numbers. That's got shit loads more power, seen other vids where that they either tie or it's close. Fuck this.

@ReaLzEdits

9 жыл бұрын

MostlyPostie LOL stop thinking the GT-F is faster. The GTS Manual does the 0-100 time in about 4.5 and i've seen some 4.8 seconds.... So i would expect similar if not even slower numbers compared to the GT-F manual.

@benschmidt3967

9 жыл бұрын

EASYCARMODS yeah look up 9 second XR6 and watch all the Eurocar guys run away from pure fear. Stop thinking you can get journos to smoke up the tyres for the camera instead of getting traction and not shifting properly.,,,

@caradvice

9 жыл бұрын

***** Drive.com.au is independent, we don't think your mad though.

@benschmidt3967

9 жыл бұрын

We will just ignore you. Independant. May the word spread.

Manual vs auto? logic. Maybe do auto vs auto or manual vs manual. Stupid Drive dont know how to compare.

@clubsportr82001

5 жыл бұрын

he compared the quickest trans vs quickest trans of that particular car... obviously

@rocketmagnet427

5 жыл бұрын

Either way the gts is quicker

@OLLDOG

4 жыл бұрын

Josh Huxley who the fuck are you. Maybe if you knew anything about racing U would know that putting an automatic in would only make it around .3 seconds faster and we beat u by a full second get over it pussy

@EnVyRe4per

3 жыл бұрын

if the ford was an auto the gts would still win, each gear shift of the ford doesn't shave off more than a whole second you twat

i seriously doubt the gtf does the 1/4 mile slower than a stock xr6 turbo

@rx720bfc

9 жыл бұрын

xr6 turbo is less power but is detuned and still quicker...lets see the gts 430 vs a f6

@alexxxp89

9 жыл бұрын

So wtf is the time on quater for xr6 turbo not a chance it does it less than 13sec

@Cykoid

9 жыл бұрын

Lookits ME 12.8 sec dead stock

@alexxxp89

9 жыл бұрын

I don't know man but seen tons off them at drags no one went under 13sec

@CommodoreWog

8 жыл бұрын

+Cykoid Stock XR6 turbo? Try 13. 7 all day everyday. They are NOT a 12 second car.

Ford don't sweat it!! you have the Barra, a 6 that thumps. turbo Barra motors are wichcraft just magic. 😊

@kolesyt9280

4 жыл бұрын

Eugene Pillay never heard of a Chevy in-line turbo 😂😂 and no way Chevy is crap compared to ford especially Barras, barras and 1 and 2jz are one of the most reliable engines in the world there bud also u can put so much power through em but Chevy just blows up Chevy is poo mate know what your saying before u start tryna talk trash

@kolesyt9280

4 жыл бұрын

Eugene Pillay bro that’s poo lol so slow mate I’m just looking here and I see so many Barras running 7s and 6s even 5s so u clearly don’t know anything about barras so go back to your shitty inline Chevy turbo crap and stop talking shit

@bepisman6323

4 жыл бұрын

you know how much work is needed for a fucking Buick/ecotec to make any sort of power? your talking block reinforcement the second you even think of putting a turbo on one, and practically everything internal needs to be changed to handle fucking 15psi, with a Barra just strap a bigger turbo on it,up the boost, 1000cc injectors, headstuds, exhaust and tune, you can make 600+KW and it wont fuck out, you need to pull your fucking head out of your arse

@johnboy5167

Жыл бұрын

The barra is brilliant as a boat mooring but not much else 😄😁

apples and oranges....couldnt you find a ZF GTF?

Saw this posted on a forum, makes for interesting reading.Just seen this posted on AFF from a member who is an employee of Street Machine.I guess it's time for me to weigh in. I've read most of the comments and had a good laugh at some, especially at the conspiracy theory people who think that this is some kind of attack on Ford Australia. Here's how all this came about. As most know I work for Street Machine and I've been a member here for years. I play with Fords, Holden and Chryslers, if it was said that I favoured any brand it would be Chrysler but I'll play with anything. At Street Machine we share office space with Wheels, Motor and Unique cars, and I sit on the other side of the cubicle wall from the Wheels guys and the subject of the dynoing the GTS and GT-F came up. The Wheels guys asked me to recommend a workshop and I said VCM Performance. Why? Because's it's a roomy and tidy workshop with an easy to access dyno and they're friendly guys. I've filmed there before and it looks good on video. No other reason. Wheels were only going to get dyno figures for print but I suggested we film the whole thing and my boss Simon suggested I film it and we share the footage for a simultaneous release across Wheels and Street Machine because we have two different audiences. So the guys rang Mario at VCM on my advice and he was happy to do the test there. We drove the cars there and because the Ford has no intercooler we decided to put it on the rollers second to give it some cool down time. There was no fanfare, no conspiracy, just roll the cars on, test, and roll them off and film the results. Here's the Street Machine video in case you haven't seen it.kzread.info/dash/bejne/poF5l9WoZrnIobg.html As you see the GTS made 330rwkw on it's first run and it made 327rwkw on it's second run. Now I've filmed ALOT of dyno runs in the past and I saw nothing funky at all, and generally, in my experience, we'll see that the HP at the rear wheels will roughly equal the KW at the flywheel +/-5%. So when the GTS made 442.5rwhp on a claimed 430kw I didn't think that was unusual. Then we ran the GT-F on the rollers. No one expected the GT-F to beat the GTS but we felt that if it got within 20kw that would be a respectable result given the claimed 351kw. Now we all know about the "transient overboost" (stupid name) which provides up to 404kw. I was at the GT-F launch at You Yangs and I asked the engineers flat out if the car made any more boost under that condition and they admitted that it didn't. It's all in the timing based on intake heat - basically if the intake temps are too high you don't get the full output. It's as simple as that. Anyway we thought that if it made over 310rwkw or 415rwhp that would be a respectable result. First run was 308.8rwkw and the second run went 304.5rwkw and we knew it was only going to get worse if we kept going, so we let the GT-F cool down in the dyno room for 10mins or so with the dyno fan on full blast. In the true spirit on the dyno test we probably shouldn't have but we wanted to see if the FPV could get over 310rwkw. After the cool down we ran the car up again at it made the 311.3rwkw figure that everyone seems to have a problem with. So we went with the best figures of both. Maybe we should have averaged the figures, but that wouldn't help the FPV either. But we felt the Ford had performed quite well in the circumstances and having a separation of just 19kw or 25hp at the wheels showed the cars were going to be close in performance. At this point we decided to wait until Monday the 7th to release the results, which was our first mistake. We should have just gone straight back to the office, edited the footage to suit our respective audiences and let fly. Then someone gave Ford a heads up on the results and the phone lines between Ford and the Bauer media office basically caught fire. Ford were not happy and to be honest I don't really understand their problem. Yes they didn't make as much as the HSV GTS, but it was a lot closer than anyone who knew dynos thought it would be. Look at the facts: 1) Both cars were auto 2) Both cars were driven straight to VCM and run as is 3) You can't compare different brand dynos. Every business has their dyno set up differently and there's variation across brands. The only way to make a fair comparison is same day, same dyno 5) Ford has underclaimed the supercharged Miami V8 from Day 1 and this just confuses people 6) The FPV has quad cams, but is only 5-litres and has no intercooler 7) The HSV might be a pushrod V8, but it has 6.2-litres and an intercooler If Ford/FPV wanted the GT-F to be the big dog of Australian performance they should have put an intercooler in the bloody thing. We all know what a difference that makes to them. At the launch I asked why with the GT-F being the last GT Falcon and everything that went with that was it only 351kw? They said that 351 was an iconic number and they wanted to honour that, which is fine, but I said 427 is an iconic number for Ford guys as well and it would have put it more in line with the HSV GTS. There was a lot of heming and hawing and foot shuffling because they knew their car didn't have the power of the HSV GTS. But now they're claiming it makes as much as 351rwkw? Give me a break. So anyway, as we prepared to release our videos Ford threatened and pleaded with Wheels for the results to not be published (we didn't field any calls form Ford at Street Machine, maybe because Simon was in QLD). This went right to the top of the food chain at Ford. I can't say too much about all that, but there were at least a dozen calls back and forth by my reckoning. Ford claimed there must have been something wrong with GT-F-014 to make such a "low figure" and they claimed they tested it themselves and claimed they made somewhere close to 351rwkw. We at Street Machine were happy they we had given both cars a fair go and wanted to go ahead with the video Monday night, but Wheels wanted to hold back because there was more talks planned with Ford. So we decided to sit on it. Talks between Wheels and Ford continued on Tuesday morning and then about midday Motoring.com.au went to print with "their results" (suspiciously convenient) which we've all seen. So we hit the go button with both our videos. Wheels went first, and we were a couple hours later with ours because no-one was in the SM office to click go. Naturally the results differ because different dyno and different cars, but both results used the same GT-F-014 and somehow they managed 348rwkw where we managed 311rwkw, which is a huge difference in anyone's language. Why the difference? Well look at the torque figures that Motoring.com.au are claiming. They claim 721Nm for the GT-F when we all know that Ford have torque limited the GT-F (and all the previous Miami powered cars) to 570Nm. Did Ford turn the torque protection off in the software before handing the car to Motoring.com.au for their "independent test"? Who knows? It makes you wonder. At the end of the day I have no dog in this fight, we only test Fords and Holdens occasionally at SM, but what started a simple, "Hey, what do you reckon they make on the dyno?" turned into a massive **** fight. At the end of the day you have to ask yourself, without bringing brand loyalty into it, will an unintercooled 5-litre make as much power as an intercooled 6.2-litre? If Ford wanted to win this battle they just had to build the right car (ie: intercooled with 400kw+), we all wanted to see it.

@johnbull362

7 жыл бұрын

Good read, cheers mate, i have 3 falcons, doesn't mean I don't like hsv

@johnnyhohenzollern165

5 жыл бұрын

Get the V8 bi-turbo AMG, then no more arguments.

@manofwar577

5 жыл бұрын

Cheers for writing that up, and as for the intercooler, spot on, and also not sure why they went the larger sump to compensate for no engine oil cooler, still love both.

@fpv1268

5 жыл бұрын

​@@mikemoore2791​ Spot on mate, all that bullshit = he has no idea LOL! When bias wheels did a REAL comparison this is the result kzread.info/dash/bejne/qXqIvNenepeofc4.html Falcon GT is the only legend to come out of Australia, just ask the World

@adamnixon7232

5 жыл бұрын

FPV GT when facts come out its all bullshit according to you, hsv won this round

Hsv smashed it.

Are you going to run this again with 2 autos or 2 manuals?

@forsakenoce3687

10 жыл бұрын

Manuals have the upper hand so there's no point lol gts is king

@MaZEEZaM

10 жыл бұрын

Sione Latu Did you not listen, he said with modern Auto's the Auto tends to be quicker half a second in this case he said for the Ford.

@forsakenoce3687

10 жыл бұрын

But still gts is king brahh

@rocketmagnet427

10 жыл бұрын

I agree the test should be done again. Still the gts will win but it would be fairer for the fort

@GeneralNOH

4 ай бұрын

​​​​@@forsakenoce3687Generally speaking auto is faster. This same test was done with 2 manuals a bunch of times by evomagazine and it was close enough to be driver difference, definitely not the significant difference seen here. But looking at those numbers id say the HSV was slightly quicker manual vs manual, so they technically win in my book since i prefer manual. Auto vs Auto? wouldnt be surprised if the Falcon smoked it. the ZF box tends to shit on those 9l90s or whatever they put behind the LS even if the LS is putting out more power, theyre up there with fancy DCT in terms of shift times. Falcon auto way better for skids too, you can even set up a "clutch" pedal for them these days😂

I dont give a shit which wins I cant afford either, so any would do

@jimmyjames8280

7 жыл бұрын

Cairnsyspook Your mum

@Cairnsyspook

7 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

@jimmyjames8280

7 жыл бұрын

Cairnsyspook And your Dad

@jimmyjames8280

7 жыл бұрын

Cairnsyspook And if you've got any your spunky sisters too

@Cairnsyspook

7 жыл бұрын

ice heads 4 life

My manual MX6 turbo (2.2L turbo, 1980s technology) runs a 13.2.. FWD, 215 street tires, with mountains of torque. A GOOD driver in a GT-F will net a low 12. You need to sack your test driver, he is useless. I volunteer.

@RypienGT

5 жыл бұрын

I call bullshit on your FWD MX6.

@NoBody-ht1oh

4 жыл бұрын

You’re a knob

@joshs088008

3 жыл бұрын

@John Winzil Who me?

@johnboy5167

2 жыл бұрын

What a dreamer this bloke is 😄😄😄

@joshs088008

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnboy5167 yeah nah.

No imagine if that LS had a turbo, Ford would be gone

I'm a Ford man but that HSV is fucking awesome!! I'd like to see the price difference in mods put on the FPV and see how the drag would go than

They shoud of used the same engine as tne mustang shelby gt 500. 5.8L 353 supercharged.

How come a 351kw fpv does 13.1 quarter mile and a fgx xr8 can do 12.7 quarter mile there's something fishy going on and I know it's a bit late

@yusufjohnson8986

6 жыл бұрын

And a fgx xr8 has 16kw less

My dad has a FPV Limeted edition pursiut ute

unfair comparison if the vf gts was manual it would have been much closer comparing auto and manual cars on the drag strip is like apples and oranges a g6e turbo is capable of running a 5.0 second 0-100 time with a auto box imagine what a gtf could do

@kaycroall565

4 жыл бұрын

Ford will never end the car wars, no matter what, whether it's with performance, or reliability, the HSV is also capable of 0-100 in 4.0, though we saw 4.2 seconds, you're making it obvious the HSV would have still beat it by a second, Ford is a great car, but holden just takes it to the next level.

@johnboy5167

Жыл бұрын

​@@kaycroall565 you are correct but the little Ford girls will keep dribbling 💩😁

Both great cars ,,, but man i love the gtf ,

Auto & manual it doesn't matter. It all depends on the driver on how they time & how quick they can shift gears. My stock gen f2 clubby manual has beaten both fpv & hsv autos & manuals

@imtheonetosayit3657

2 жыл бұрын

Paul maric did a 0-100 time in 4.6 seconds in a gt-f 351 on his youtube channel

They keep forgetting to mention how the gts has shit loads of more torque, which is why it thumps that gt shitbox

I would love to see the rev limiter removed from ford

would love to see a fair test. auto vs manual really??

wouldnt the xr6 turbo beat them both?

@johnboy5167

Жыл бұрын

No it wouldn't dumbo 😂

lol holden kicked its ass

Poor Hagon. I remember him trying to tell everyone that a GTS 325 was quicker than a GT 335... Poor bastard can't win a trick. Good Journalism is dead.

Also, I find it quite amazing that the ZL1 (lighter, wider tyred, same engine) is no faster than that commodore !!

@rimaman8681

4 жыл бұрын

because they are bull shiting, how can it be faster lol you got it

@Cykoid

2 жыл бұрын

Absolute bullshit a ZL1 is a low 11 car

Hahaha 1 with 351 kw and other one is 430kw and there is 18k diffrence in price.... put that extra 18k in to barra turbo and see what happens to ur any holden

@sevaanstojcevski5666

4 жыл бұрын

Akag Man Barra 6 is superior chop any v8 for half the price and will run longer than anything

@classicandy5317

2 жыл бұрын

I just brought a xr6t that had been worked for 24k,its running 400rwk it would eat both of theses cars for a quater of the price 🤣

@johnboy5167

Жыл бұрын

​@@sevaanstojcevski5666 my ls3 has beaten every shit barra so far so grow up boy 😄

@johnboy5167

Жыл бұрын

​@@classicandy5317 anytime mate ls3 rules 😁

GTF getting another beatdown from the GTS lol

would be keen to see auto vs auto. give us a fair test.

@MrJordan01950

8 жыл бұрын

He said at the end "take half a second off the hsv because it's auto. It still wins

MAKE THIS AVAILABLE IN THE U.S. DAMMIT! Both companies are American owned anyway how hard could it be?

@alexxxp89

9 жыл бұрын

I been asking for mustangs and corvettes and camaros too lol its bs buddy

@billybodybuilder

9 жыл бұрын

Lookits ME Don't worry mate , not too much longer to wait. Mustangs already on the way , Camaros & Vettes etc. to follow , all in RH Drive & Tariff FREE ! we gonna be so spoilt :)

ill end this right here, if you like fords, good on you, if you like holdens, good on you. at the end of the day who cares which car has more power because i think deep down we all know which is the better car...

Fuck that Falcons slow 😂😂😂😂😂

Your comparison is like apples to oranges. (Manual v auto) makes no sense

Cementing it as the quickest car ever built in Australia....****with an american LSA crate engine**** lol

@rocketmagnet427

5 жыл бұрын

It was built here though. Bet you think ford Australia ever had there own v8?

U can't compare apples to oranges. Make em both auto to reduce driver error, pick models with similar torque and power bands and then do a drag race and ill get back to u.

5.1 seconds what!! a fuckin vz clubsport does 5 flat

yeah 15k more i bet i spend 10k only on the ford with 5k in my pocket and i will win in a drag race

MostlyPostie the fpv has 370 kw and the hsv has 430 kw thats why the ford was slower

How the fuck is that a fair test!

we dont have ford or holden its all from overseas

And that's the end of that...

I'm a Ford man but hsv put more money into there cars they had the financial part from gm so but if Ford America helped Ford Australia dam it would have been a dam good run there more stuff more tech more advancement overall it would have been great if they did that but they didn't ford did the best they could still a quick car mighty falcon be missed Holden too both be missed alot

Clearly I own a ford. But I would much rather that Holden. It's built so much nicer than the Ford. Like seriously. Cheap plastics in the Ford and a shitty interior, or Holdens much more advanced interior and head units/controls.

@boosts14

8 жыл бұрын

I own a f6 and the interior is enough for me, I don't really care for a flash interior when with 12 grand in it its pulled 490rwkw 10.12 @ 142mph and has full adj coil overs, tuned box, 6 pot front 4 pot rears, 1000hp tail shaft, trutrac. It's built to be driven, not to pretend your at home in your lounge room. Prob 80grand all up, (65g new) driven daily with 490rwkw and hasn't missed a beat in over 70thousand k's. I'll take reliability and response to basic mods over a touch screen.

@schumifan78

8 жыл бұрын

+Sh!t Kunt Sounds hectic! Any vids on here of you running 10.1s? Was that as driven on the street or with slicks etc?

@boosts14

8 жыл бұрын

+schumifan78 yeah was on Hoosier radials. Was running 11.4s on street rubber, just couldn't grip up first 3 gears. I don't have videos on here, but I did see it once a couple years or so ago on fullboost or someone similars account when it was running 10.8x @132mph, (WSID) before the new box tunes and e85.

@schumifan78

8 жыл бұрын

+Sh!t Kunt Sounds like a ripping car mate. For a laugh check out Mark Eatons comments above, he's cut up over this video haha

@wheeman999

8 жыл бұрын

I managed a 12.6 with 300KW. No traction issues though. Chirped all the way into 4th though lol. 186KPH over the line.

Having a fast car is all great but in the real world we are not on a race track and if you do treat it as a race track you end up having the car impounded so this rivalry hasn’t really got a point to it you are paying for power you can’t legally use on a daily basis unless you want to take the car to a track and not many actually see a track I have a V8 and it rarely sees a track heck it rare sees the road

@classicandy5317

2 жыл бұрын

Okay granddad 👴👴👴👴

No matter what the Holden would win whether they were both manual or auto First off it has an engine that is quite a bit bigger As far as I know the VF shape is light asf dunno about the ford tho Holden is just too good ❤️

@fugawiaus

5 жыл бұрын

TTR xUnsolved actually on a dyno comparison between these two cars the commodore averaged 320 kw whereas the ford averaged 345kw. This was taken over 3test runs at 2dyno centres. This points to the fact that the GTS 430kw at the box and the FPV at the wheels. They found the GTS was quicker on the track due to larger wider tyres.

@smartey2612

4 жыл бұрын

TTR Veris ur kidding me mate. The GT-F does 4.6 in auto which was done in a review and can do even better. The bloke didn’t turn traction control off and didn’t even put it into sports shift. One more thing as well. That motor in the GTS is Prehistoric. U could probably find it roots in a old HQ GTS. Ud be lucky if a conrod wouldn’t go flying out of the VF when ur pushing It. The GT-Fs motor is actually what we call in the 21st century. Falcon is just so much more refined in many ways than it’s overrated rival. At least Ford Aus tell u the truth, Holden just like to exaggerate.

@johnboy5167

2 жыл бұрын

@@fugawiaus it's quicker because it has a lot more torque and gets its power down better 👍

@johnboy5167

2 жыл бұрын

@@smartey2612 you are just a sook and full of it 😄 😉

@johnboy5167

Жыл бұрын

​@@smartey2612 after reading your comment l will tell you that it's better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt you have removed all doubt 😂

Got to love gm

@rimaman8681

4 жыл бұрын

nope, they needed to borrow money from u.s government to survive, ford didnt need to gm's having big problems theres days could be numbered

Shows you how accurate these tests are, they show a SS v XR6T both getting a 13.1 in another vid. Maybe they need to use better drivers for some more relevant results..

@classicandy5317

2 жыл бұрын

Xr6t beats a ss every day of the week.

My ol lady shifts harder than that in her charade!! what a joker..

@classicandy5317

2 жыл бұрын

I agree it looked like he was pulling on to the high way 😒

Go Holden!!!!, yeah baby!!!

holdens TOP speed have always been slow but they are faster of the mark because of a smaller gear ratio so im on with ford for this one.

my local drag way

Im thinking that holden and drive.com.au have formed an aliance or something, they are definitly working together. Everyone knows the falcon would have won that. How you expect us to belive a lion is faster than a bird. A lion runs thats cool any car engine can run whilst its park haha its called idling but the falcon flies. F.O.R.D Stands for First On Race Day. While H.O.L.D.E.N stands for Hidden On Losers Driveway Every Night or better also another accurate meaning fro personal experience with a holden i had would be Holes Oil Leaks Dents Engine Noises. Seriously tho im going to sell my current Ford and buy my next Ford from another website like carsguide or tradingpost or gumtree or ebay, from now on clearly drive doesnt know much about cars as they'd have us believe

@thispranksux7374

4 жыл бұрын

Don't ya mean Fucked On Race Days... or in reverse order Driver Returns On Foot...or Full Of Rusty Dents...or Found On Rubbish Dumps...I must admit tho' that 99 percent of FORDS that have been made are still on the road...... that's because only 1 percent could make it home...😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

GTS was always 1 sep ahead of GT F so just suck it up...

"Expect to shave 1/2 a second for the Auto" .. For those who drag race , i can tell you it's more like a FULL SECOND or more for the auto !

No contest, Holden wins.

@sammyjoscarido

8 жыл бұрын

+Redblower is that why they used a ford engine and diff for a decade of supercars?

@Redblower

8 жыл бұрын

+sammyjoscarido ...V8 Supercars?...They are slow old noisy outdated rubbish and have just been flogged in 0-100 by a Tesla model S. both holden and ford are just peddling the last of this dirty rubbish.

Who else went straight to the comments section 😁

Goooo HOLDEN

Need to be both autos, HSV would still win but by not as much

The majority of people buying these will be taking the TR6060 so get a GTS in manual and try again with more comment on take off, gearing, and top speed. The amount of info you put in these video's is disgraceful.

Holden are better than fords

Very fast GTS

Bullshit! Absolute bullshit! 13.1 for the 351 GTF are you kidding me? EASY mid 12 second car!

gts is king, full stop

@smartey2612

4 жыл бұрын

Isabel Mourkakos GTS is overrated rubbish.

@johnboy5167

Жыл бұрын

​@@smartey2612 stop talking about yourself dumbo 😂

Aussie legends!

@billybodybuilder

2 жыл бұрын

Both American V8's.

My dad has an fpv

89 people don't like holdens

just the the auto

MAKE THE POWER EVEN ford needs More power

ford is a better cruiser, holden is a more sporty drive and better around a track as well as straights simple as that the hsv gts gen f is basically a zl1 camaro

@classicandy5317

2 жыл бұрын

But f6 310

what a joke, 13.1 for the GT-F??? the R-spec pulls 12-11s and can do 0-100 in around 4

@kaopointmanneil5862

3 жыл бұрын

Yep everyone knows they set it up to fail.....

13.1 what a joke My 2006 pursuit ute does it in 13.2

@alexxxp89

9 жыл бұрын

Someone lied to u lmaooo so bad

@Prissyoh

9 жыл бұрын

Lookits ME No one lied it does what it does. It pulls 13.2's all day long only mod is an x-force from catback. This video is a joke and pathetic.The GT r-spec does it in 12.4 by memory and this 13.1 unbelievable.

Ford looks much better than holden

doesn't count if there not the same trans

@TheScooterboy11

10 жыл бұрын

It wouldn't matter the gts would win either way...

The gtf auto is significantly faster, but i reckon they already knew that

lol people that gtf doesn't come close to a gts. stop making excuses. it sure as hell won't go under 12.5 let alone 12.1

@datboibazzle2117

7 жыл бұрын

awkward moment when the gts makes less power than the gtf

@MegaUnavailableusern

7 жыл бұрын

DatBoiBazzle yeah idk why they so slow with more power on the dyno than gts.

@datboibazzle2117

7 жыл бұрын

MegaUnavailableusern its bc manual vs auto i had a auto seni and got a auto pursuit and the pursuit was way faster

This is an unfair comparo, auto vs manual...of course the auto is going to win. Rerun this test using either both manuals or autos!

Love them both, but have to say the distance that the hsv won by doesn't really seem like it would be made up purely by a transmission. Don't visit drag strips often enough to know for sure, just my take. 6.2L supercharged vs 5.4? litre supercharged is often no contest in many equally weighted cars.

@garethduff3357

8 жыл бұрын

+Brayden Haynes The GT-F has the Miami engine which is a 5 Litre 32 Valve, Quad cam, All Alloy S/C V8 now if the stock GT's with the 335kW motor (same motor different tune)all put out 315 - 330kW at the tyres STOCK and HEAVILY detuned with heaps of easy power to be made. Exhaust, Intercooler and a few other tweaks and you have a 450 - 500 kW at the tyres weapon and it's lighter than the Falcon and the ZF Auto is light years ahead of the HOLDEN Trans and also tuneable. You compare that to the Holden and it weighs a lot more and that 430kW turns into 304 - 310kW at the tyres and is pretty maxed out and is still a push rod old school motor. (not that there is anything wrong with that but for the bragging about tech etc they don't even have variable exhaust timing etc) This clip is so heavily biased which is why the magazine was forced to do it again Auto vs Auto and the HOLDEN got WHIPPED by the FORD and it was proved that the fastest Australian built car IS THE FPV GT-F!!

@itsb680

8 жыл бұрын

Interesting bit of information you're dropping there. I'm going to have to find this auto vs auto race. But once we're talking about modifying the engines surely there is little to compare to the stock cars, I mean people are using these LS motors in drag cars pulling thousands of horsepower... I don't mean to sound like a purist, because trust me I love the sound and feel of the ford 5l over the LS series, but surely it comes down to the old age debate of "no replacement for displacement", because once both motors are built for methane and 50+ psi of boost, surely theres not much the smaller ford can do against the extra 1.2 litres of engine.. Just my speculation, look forward to a reply.

@garethduff3357

8 жыл бұрын

+Brayden Haynes Hey bud, I will see if I can find a link for you. Totally Agree on the no replacement for displacement but in saying that with the modified blocks for the Coyotes including Billet now if you have the cash with a couple of turbos or a big S/C they are getting 3-3500 HP and a couple of companies now are running under 6 sec quarters so it really shows it can be done!! There are plenty of street builds \ kits pulling 1500+ HP so who knows maybe the tables are turning towards higher faster revving engines due to tech etc. the new Voodoo in the Shelby GT350R Mustang is an amazing example 5.2L Flat Plane Crank and NA......520HP from the factory stock unreal stuff!! You still have the 5.4 and 5.8L modulars too for the old displacement factor which are amazing as well. My FPV 335GT dynoed at 328kW at the tyres stock so can't complain about that👍. Sold that baby and onto the next project now though!!!

@rimaman8681

4 жыл бұрын

i hate holdens, so i were rich i could get a holden and a ford and have the ford win by miles by telling the driver of the holden take it easy so the ford wins by miles, then how does that look, this video is bull shit i saw on yezterday samw cars on the best dyno in the world the falcon made 446 kw and the holden 424 kw ,

@johnboy5167

Жыл бұрын

​@@garethduff3357 mate I have never read so much rubbish you are clueless no standard Ford has any chance at all against the gts keep dribbling little boy 😂

You can't call this a fair comparison because one is auto and one is manual. It's like comparing apples to oranges, end of story.

do it a gen this time manual with manual or auto with auto dum dum

I'd rather see F6 vs GTS

@captainkaos754

5 жыл бұрын

It’s v8 vs v8 ya fuckwit, not f6 crap. That’s all you ford clowns ha e to harp on about. Without that you haven’t got shit.

@Cliffy1616

4 жыл бұрын

Captain Kaos no need to be so salty that Ford Aus’ turbo 6’s shit on anything Holden can make. You can pick up an F6 for what half the Cost of the GTS? Drop a small amount of the savings into the F6 and it’d rape the GTS down the 1/4. Hell Fords turbo 6’s are better than their V8’s when it comes to bang for your buck. HSV is just overpriced trash and Holden couldn’t even make their own Motors to power their so called most powerful “Australian” car. Really the most powerful “Aussie” car should be the Xr6 Sprint.

@classicandy5317

2 жыл бұрын

@@captainkaos754 because the gts would loose to a 6cylinder engine 🤣🤣 calm down old man 👴👴

@johnboy5167

Жыл бұрын

Easy win for the Holden 😂

Got a BA XR6T AUTO cooler tune runs flat 13 all day love it.

ford got munched end of story

Just to stop all these idiots arguing I work at a drag strip and these are the stock times 0-100 for all cars mentioned in the comments FPV F6 310kw 4.97s FPV -GTF 400kw 5.09s XR6 turbo FG 270kw 4.81s GTS F 430kw 4.13s They are all fast cars Holden fans stop rubbing it in fords faces and fords fans stop hating on Holden. Toyota is better than both of you.

@alexxxp89

9 жыл бұрын

People don't get it has nothing to do with kw numbers but how or car puts that horsepower onto the ground and carries it through gears it can even be fast 0-100 but it doesn't mean it will win the quarter mile

@jawmalawmnz

9 жыл бұрын

Your telling me a FG XR6 Turbo is faster than a F6 to 100kph? Wtf!!

@johnktmalexiou

9 жыл бұрын

Toyota are quick yes , but they don't make a full size performance 4-Door sedan.. only the Aristo back in the 90's.

@beyondtheblackstump

9 жыл бұрын

jawmalawm nz I believe the XR6T uses a smaller turbo than the F6, therefore spooling faster and utilizing power earlier in the lower rev range? Can anyone else confirm?

@michaelpark8239

9 жыл бұрын

beyondtheblackstump I can't confirm but I'm also very confident in saying some (if not all) of those numbers are made up or off a forum somewhere.

Manual vs auto, wtf?

WOW last ford ever built TOTAL BS, all those FORD Owners who have a FG X XR8 have traded their cars in to get a NEW Sprint, LOL :) Which is why there's so many FG X XR8's on the market right now compared to the same model of a REDLINE or a SS Holden, lol :)

So many Ford fans who can't stand the fact that Ford Australia has become a pathetic excuse of a car company.

@classicandy5317

2 жыл бұрын

So what's the xr6t ?

I’ve got the 2014 MKII F6 and took on a 2017 GTS.. at first I thought he’d wipe the floor with me, but I was surprised from 0-90 I had him by a car length. After 100 he got me by 4-6 cars.. that was one race I was happy to lose but damn these Baras are the bomb 💪🏾

@Seymour_butts

Жыл бұрын

💯 mate, both beautiful rigs. 👍

@johnboy5167

Жыл бұрын

I think you have been playing with your stiffler 2 much 😄😁

@FPV846

Жыл бұрын

@@johnboy5167 only on Wednesday’s bro lol

Butt hurt fan boys. The hsv got to 100 so much quicker. 0-100 should be able to be done in two gears. You can’t tell me it takes that long to shift a straight gear haha. The falcon is simply not as good

For 30-40k less, Falcons have so much more value than any Commodore will ever have.

@nobodyheretoexplainthejoke6183

7 жыл бұрын

yeah, ford needs to stop living by the "RESTRICTIONS" and put MORE power into the fpv's than "-300KW" because they will end up losing by the Holden having OBVIOUSLY more power than the Ford's

@elliotbarron4913

6 жыл бұрын

Yeh but like most holden fans hate, not many buy an xr8 or gt anymore for power potential or general bang for buck. Thats why the xr6 turbo and the g6e turbo range walk all over them, people bitch about the interior being cheap but tbh who cares about interior when your getting chopped by a car 30odd k less that your own

@twooccystraps6458

5 жыл бұрын

Same deal with resale, Fords are cheap, because they are cheap.

Pffft at lest use 2autos or 2manuls biggest wast of time 1/4mile out dosent show anything apart from its quicker in a auto

Manual vs auto.....lol. A lot of complaints about this. My gripe is the extra litre and a bit that sealed the win.

auto = chopping manuals all day...and yes by 1 second lol ford has a nice lil overboost in the auto version and xr6ts running 12.6s everyday yet the mighty manual 351 runs a 13.1? get fucked. f6 runs low 12s lolol paid presentation by holden

430kw vs 351kw auto vs manual seems fair , run the Ford R.spec against the Holden next time 😑

Well fords people can't admit the loss. HSV 430kw. And ford 351kw Big differences... Always HSV will Be KING

@chillpill4936

7 жыл бұрын

Steve O oh dear. time for you to dig deeper sheep.

Pfft the GTS had over an extra bloody litre and 80 odd more KWs! Not to mention it costs a fortune! I know what i would have! It may be a second slower but atleast its not labeled a bogans car! Commodore LOL! Mind you the GTS is still a machine!

@alexxxp89

9 жыл бұрын

I saw plent off fords pull numbers way better than holdens on dyno and what the maker say didnt u hear him say ford admits on a good day it can produce up too 405.kw. I seen tons off vf gts most i wver saw was a guy he had 340rwk thats that no where near the engine figure they r saying should have at least another 40rwk on top. But its not so much the power on the rwk its how ur car puts it on the ground

@alexxxp89

9 жыл бұрын

Lmaoo get so cut about it bro relax man all i know i had a f6 it gave me tons off problems bought a gtp same shit sold them both bought off a friend ve never had one problem apart from chaniging tyres lol and now i have a gts never any problem yes its new but i am just staing what my experience is i love f6s fords v8 suck to me they do but i do own a gts and i am not going back until the new ford mustang v8 comes so people go against those jdm fuks lol.

@TheMightyFordFalcon

9 жыл бұрын

Lookits ME LOL :) The new XR8 and GT's are a real weapon. Don't get me wrong i appreciate a good car no matter what the brand but certain cars and the fans of them are really annoying :P i like the GTO, VX SS and HSV's.

@sourwords1808

9 жыл бұрын

Good luck buying this cheap GT for less the 100k.

@alexxxp89

9 жыл бұрын

Clutsta. I had heaps off problem with the gear box diff few engine bits and peices just failing on their own and the car was 2yrs old my mates dad had it before me and that car i think has never seen 110+km on a motorway when i got it i didnt tharsh it just drove it like i do every other off my cars i got to work and from work in traffic not really that i can be a hoon and a few races it was manual tho and i think people this days get more auto not only coz its faster this that but i think manual in fords its just a little bit to shit made to be honest it doesnt feel smooth whats so ever

why would you run a manual against an auto and call that a fair test?? apples vs pears guys! shoot another vid with auto vs auto so we can watch a proper race.

Ford fanboys... Don't get upset. An 80kw 200nm deficit and a manual box, and still only less than a second off the pace? Shows how much better the Ford engine is, pound for pound!So relax and let the Holden fanboys have a little bit of a gloat, because they still have to put up with there beloved GTS being no quicker than an XR6 turbo with only a couple of thousand dollars thrown at it! And Holden fanboys... Fuck you guys can really carry on! The GTS is a $100, 000 vehicle. So it bloody well should be that fast. XR6 turbo... $37,000 brand new, add $5,000 mods= see you later! Sorry, but it's the truth. I get trounced all the time by those bloody turbos, but I can respect them, even if they are only Fords!

@schumifan78

8 жыл бұрын

Still sound like a shithouse straight six though.

@wmil65

7 жыл бұрын

Why do I think Indian Taxi Driver when I see a Falcoon interior? Oh that's right, TAXI,

@rocketmagnet427

5 жыл бұрын

Thing is you will still be in a modded taxi interior falcon that's only as fast as a gts in a straight line. Falcon will fall off the road trying to keep up with the gts when it gets twisty..