That Porsche Cayman GT4 in black is life goals 😍 Thank you Lovecars for giving us this amazing video. Keep up the great work. 👌

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words!

@EnglishSpitfire

3 жыл бұрын

GT4s feel like your sat on the floor, with your eyes just peeping above the window line and the seats are really uncomfortable and unadjustable, some people may like that but I hate it. If you want one of these, get yourself a 981 6 cylinder Boxster S or GTS instead (much better than the later 718) and with PDK/launch control much faster than these two cars above as it will hit 60 in 4.1 secs and 1/4 mile in 12.7. You'll also have the wind in your hair whenever you want. PDK is lightning fast and wonderful, and it's just as much fun to whip through the gears using paddles on the steering wheel as it is in a manual if you want to interact yourself. Remember these cars were built ground up as an open top.... the Cayman just added a roof to the existing Boxster (it's a Boxster with a roof) and therefore there is absolutely no difference in handling, unlike cars which were designed with a roof and then had it cut off to make the soft top.

The Intro has such a positive vibe

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

That's kind of you to say thank you!

@shravanav993

3 жыл бұрын

That's really true

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Shravan Sudhir thank you too!

Didn't expect that result and still waiting for the McLaren 765 vs turbo s 😈💪

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Us too!!!

@woodstreet8214

3 жыл бұрын

Not gonna be a „fair“ race anyhow... 115Hp more, MUCH MORE expensive and NO everyday usability at all

@pantherdxn4835

3 жыл бұрын

@@woodstreet8214 the 911 still gonna win

@Kelveron

3 жыл бұрын

@@woodstreet8214 The standard 720S is already 150hp more than the Turbo S (check the dyno tests online, 720S is around 800hp and not the official 710hp)). So, the 765 will have in all probability be around 200hp more and 200kg lighter too. Still, I reckon the Turbo S will give it a run for its money.

@fallback8314

3 жыл бұрын

lol turbo s will eat that mcclaren alive. in fact i think i've seen the 765 go and it was slow af i seen it SOMEWHERE just can't remember where but it was slower than the 720

Great race! I remember racing the 981 GT4 against Marc's original M2 DCT back in 2016 in Italy, the M2 destroyed it every-time.

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Joe! We know you're a big cheese these days but hopefully you'll come on one of our videos one day 😊

@JoeAchilles1

3 жыл бұрын

@@lovecarsTV Haha thanks guys, think I'm more cheese than big cheese ;-) Hopefully one day soon x

@ApothecaryTerry

3 жыл бұрын

Oooh Mat would be sad to see someone stealing Joe- it'll be Yanni next! Joe vs Tiff would be good though (sorry Paul ☺)

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Apothecary Terry we don’t have much chance with Joe... and Mat and Yanni are even bigger cheeses than him... so we have no chance with them!!

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Mr.BigBoss7 we’re just playing as Joe is a good friend. We’re very happy with the options of guests we have through Tiff and the channel.

These are the kind of drag races that make Love cars such a great channel. Good job and Tiff and Paul. Now, can I get a free T-shirt?

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! And great idea. We will do a T-Shirt giveaway! Not sure how or when but stay tuned!!

The New GT4 RS is going to be a beast when it comes out 🔥

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

No question!

Felt like I was in the 90s watching this. Amazing!!

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

Seeing tiff after a long time,loved the review.

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Loving this series Noodles & Paul. Wonder if there will be another drag racing series or hoping for more on road comparisons and track content. Almost at 200k subscribers guys. You guys thoroughly deserve more. Beautiful filming and editing.

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

That's very kind of you to say! Wednesday's are drag races, Sundays are features. Lots of good stuff to come and a pleasure to have you along for the ride!

As a long time bmw owner... I’m taking the gt4 without a second thought. I don’t care that the m2 is faster, the gt4 is more beautiful as well as a better drivers car and sounds a lot better too. The driving experience is what means the most to me.

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

They are amazing to drive!

981 GT4 and M2 CS, what a combo to have in a garage 🤩

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Agree!!

❤️❤️💓 These manually driven cars specially M2cs

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

❤️ 👍

Might have been a different result if the GT4 was on Michelin sport cup 2s rather than the pzeros

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

We will keep that in mind for next time 😁👌

"Obviously I'm a quicker driver", hahah! Tiff, you absolute madlad!😂

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

But he ate those words ;)

Short, concise and to the point videos. Lovely!

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the nice words!

Well done @lovecars 👍 a proper apples to apples showdown with 2 manual gearboxes. Awesome stuff

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words!!

I'd watch anything with Tiif in it - great driver, funny, just the right amount of immodest - he's perfect. I've not watched a lot of content with Mr Woodman in it, but he's great and seems to complement Tiff perfectly.

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the very kind words. Much appreciated!

❤️lovecars drag race ❤️🏆 Tiff Needell 🙏🙏🙏

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

These are the kind of drag races that make Love cars such a great channel.

Awesome and fun drag race. Both presenters are fantastic and so natural. Keep up the awesome videos. Tiff for me is the greatest ever bar none. Glad to see him still behind the wheel. God Bless from South Africa.

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Greetings from the UK to RSA!

Tiff’s start was so aggressive and cool, same goes for the cinematic used in the video, ITS SO AMAZING 🤩‼️

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! 👍

Great to see Tiff, thanks for the review.

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the nice words!

Luv the M2 CS💙

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Same! Did you see our full review?

Seeing you change gears like this gives me a heart attack

Here we go guys... M2 CS or Cayman GT4? 👇

@marcthesharc991

3 жыл бұрын

Would still take the 981 Cayman GT4 even over the new 718. Better sound and I like the looks more:)

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Marc. You're not the first to say that (well, actually in these comments you are the first to say that!!!)

@Kelveron

3 жыл бұрын

Love both, but might just go for the CS for the extra practicality. But definitely wouldn't say no to the GT4 either.

Quality video. I love the Beamer and had a few. However there is nothing quite like a Porsche. No matter what it defies logic And is always there up with the best quality, gearboxes, handling and speed. This channel is turning out to be one of the best on KZread. Old tiff has still got it and it’s a good balance between the two. Congrats and keep it up!

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for the kind and sensible words! (They’re quite rare on KZread!)

❤️❤️❤️M2 CS ❤️❤️❤️

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️

I'm dying to see Tiff drive the GT4 RS... Hopefully he gets his hands on it some day soon.

4:25 race

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

We are stupid. We should have saved all that time and just showed 12 seconds of the race. Will speak to the team and look at launching a new 12 second drag race series 👍

@firstnamelastname-zo5gd

3 жыл бұрын

@@lovecarsTV i wasnt bashing haha..i still watched the whole thing but i just like to throw a time stamp bc sometimes ill rewatch a video and when i do i just find my comment and hit time stamp

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

ad am 😉 we don’t mind. And do the same on other channels 😛

The 981 GT4 is not on the OEM tyres. The GT4 was never homologated with P-Zero tyres, and the P-Zeros on this GT4 is also an older model. Was the owner running the GT4 on a tight budget?

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

The owner sleeps in his car and only eats bread and water. That's how tight things are ;)

@yetidh9

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed that. It would have launched better wearing Cup 2s. Surprised the M2 didn't completely obliterate it to be honest.

That M2 CS is drop-dead GORGEOUS black with gold wheels. Wow.

Oh dang! That was a good race!! Well done, gentlemen.

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

Having owned a green 981 GT4, nothing compares!

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Great colour!!

Insane I Like this m2 cs Is cool

Very seldom do you see an equal reaction time. Well done boys.

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark - it was one race and one take - just both competitive I guess!

Now I'm curious to see new gt4 with pdk and m2 can with dsg!

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

😏👍

i would take the cayman, but the m2 is really nice too

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

@davis7323

3 жыл бұрын

Of course cayman costs more and more prestigious

Tiff, you are a Legend and still my fav car show presenter ever.

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words Dylan!

Tiff, you need to promise all of us that you will never be too old to drive!! The auto world won’t be the same without you 🤞

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

We hope so too! Thanks for the lovely words!

That M2 CS is a bit of a porker 😉 great video 👍🏻

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Gio. We have a date for your diary... finally.... 12th Nov @ 20:00pm ;)

@giovannigallo8429

3 жыл бұрын

Lovecars ohh, exciting...on KZread?

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Giovanni Gallo 📺

@giovannigallo8429

3 жыл бұрын

Lovecars awesome!

Would love to see the m2 vs the 718 Gt4 great video btw!

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jimmy. We hope to get that one day soon!

Such an underrated channel

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the nice words!!!

Subscribed after watching the intro

Flat 6 keeping up with a Twin Turbo 6 is very impressive 0_o

Guys love the vids but please do best out of 3 or something. Or even warm up the tyres before. It would also be nice to see a rolling race. Let’s say from 60/70mph like they would do on a autobahn. This would make it fairer and more real world and people would love this. Great race though!

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the message and feedback. We are on a tiny budget. We do short and sharp videos so we can fit more in and provide more variety. Making videos doesn't pay as it is, but if we focus half a day on rolling starts, best of 3 and so on, we would be packing up shop! Hope you understand. Once we get to a decent level we can really start doing some exciting addons

Really enjoyed the Video! But i keep thinking it is kind of a missed opportunity. I think those two cars represent somewhat the pinnacle in handling from BMW and Porsche and it would be very interesting how they compare in that regard

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Yup completely get it. Did you see our M2 CS feature? That's pretty cool. And as with a most of the drag races we do on here, lots are privately owned cars who aren't too keen on us taking around a track!

@leokal457

3 жыл бұрын

Lovecars yes i did see it and i liked it very much. I can understand that! I just wanted to get this feeling across not accuse you or anything. Keep up the good work!

The GT4 is using less sticky tyres than regular fitments. Normally semi-slick of Michelin Cup 2s or Dunlop Race Maxx‘s. Here it is regular Pirelli Pzeros - not really a good choice for dry grip - too much wheel spin. Normally it has almost none.

Not disappointed In subscribing to this chanell love old school drag races👍🏻

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Plenty of good stuff to come

It is very easy to shift too fast when pushing those cars to their limit. This puts a lot of strain on the drivetrain, and I know from personal experience ($$$) that at least BMW is not robust in that area. Maybe they count on ripping-off customers who inevitably overstress their weak parts and end-up paying for it, I don't know. So if something goes wrong, which is likely, budget around 5-10 thousands of pounds for gearbox and/or clutch/flywheel replacement, in case manufacturer denies warranty claiming you were abusing their car. In my case it started with a simple grind when shifting to second, and I ended up with 2 gearboxes replaced, and a clutch/dual-mass flywheel replaced. And I am an experienced and careful manual transmission driver, and wasn't ever racing or abusing the car.

Is that Chris Harris' M2...? The plate looks rather familiar!

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Mike, he has the same spec but this is a different car 😁👌

@mthorn572

3 жыл бұрын

Aha yes you are right, thanks! Both bloody stunning... and it featured very highly in Henry Catchpole and Evo crew's opinions on their epic COTY shoot!

Brilliant. Glad to see Tiff where he belongs.

Definitely need to do this race again once they get their hands on a new 4.0 liter GT4.

@terokallio9339

3 жыл бұрын

The 718 GT4 was actually a tad slower in German Sport Auto’s test all the way til 0-200 km/h acceleration times. No wonder, the 718 GT4 is 70 kg heavier than the 981 GT4. Plus, at dyno tests, the new one seem to struggle to match the claimed 420 hp (ps) - even 400 hp is a swetty job for it.

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Yes we hope so!

The gear changing with the gear stick was smooth af!

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!

Oh it feels good to listen to Tiff again!

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

😁👌

Classic race , man those manuals/stick shift . All about timing the revs etc .

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed!!

A lot of spinning. This was the right spinning. Top professional start combined with the sound of a flat-six screaming "Com' on, let's do this". That's why it's always better to have traction and all the tech off. Then we see always these great races.

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Gracias Amigo!!!

@joaoluistavares6046

3 жыл бұрын

@@lovecarsTV De nada.

Awesome video, love what you guys bring to the table

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it! Thank you!

Tiff’ s always good fun. As for Paul, anyone who wears a Sub can’t be all bad... 😆

Both have more power than you can prudently use on the street. The GT4 is the superior track toy/canyon carver and gets better gas mileage to boot. There simply is zero comparison when talking about balance and turn in however. The GT4 has the kind of feel only a mid engine Porsche can deliver.

That M2 CS is a hell !!

Great race but you should run 3 races or best 2 out of 3 at least

Those were surprisingly good launches.

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Oscar!

Using manuals for these drag races means that driver error is too great of a factor. Using only automatics would give much more accurate and consistent results

Wow! The 981 is such an animal.

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Agree! Looks fantastic too

both cars win because they're both manual

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Good call!

Pretty sure the m2cs is 0-60 in 3.9 the m2c is 4.2

Shame it wasn’t the latest Cayman GT4 😬

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Julian - hopefully next time!

@MrJdp1968

3 жыл бұрын

Lovecars look forward to it 👍🏻

Fantastic race!

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Manny!

One of these cars is a 2 door based off a hatchback. The other is a proper mid-engined sports car. Very happy with the latter!

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Nice choice!

Lovecars M2 CS Vs Cayman GT4 Clicked at lightspeed 😍

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Did you call the winner?

@secretivescorpio891

3 жыл бұрын

@@lovecarsTV I'm a BMW fan, not saying I don't like Porsche. Tbh I got it wrong . . . Lovecars T shirts, how do I get one?

@secretivescorpio891

3 жыл бұрын

@@lovecarsTV don't worry, I have just seen the link in the description

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

secretive Scorpio ctrlandshift.com/collections/lovecars If you get one we need pictures!!! Tag on @lovecars insta or Twitter 😍😍😍

In reality the beemers probably pushing out more like 475hp.When rolling road tested they always seen to produce more power than claimed.M4 with same engine have been tested at 480 hp.

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Certainly possible

Should have been a track battle as well!

Neither car is meant for drag racing. Especially the GT4. Tall long gears. I know this gets the clicks but I'd much rather see a track time comparison.

Great race. Why didn't you add both time results?

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

It was just less than ¼ mile and wanted to be honest with you guys 👍

Better drivers than carwow. Respect.

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Jun. Tiff is an ex Formula 1 and Le Mans driver. Paul can hold his own too! :)

So refreshing to see two manual cars going at it with abit of driver involvement and skill needed rather than the usual launch control (yawn) awesome drag guys! And a gen 2 gt4 would have the bmw licked 😋

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely!

Alride look here now. This is grate. Tiff Needle is a great man. Most people don’t know me from here in South Africa result I do talk to Mat Watson bud heis often silent except when heis speaking. Wow! What a great race hey? My blessings to all with the result of the BMW looking like a very big car (vehicle) to the Porsche car. Remember when I went to Durban? I parked my car (M5) next of next to a old Mercedes’s sclass holy what the fudge did the M5 look huge compared to what we did thing was a very big car in the olden times. Thanks again for this movie do you want me to also come through and make such videos? Thanks for watching.

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the message. You must be a Sharks fan from Durban!

@vpanday1977

3 жыл бұрын

@@lovecarsTV Hi there a blessing in your house. Remember we are note going to look for sharks in Durban wedo look upon the beaches that are safer than others bud no, we donot wish for sharks upon us.

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Mr.Scobbles thank you for the nice words

Personally being a BMW guy, I like the way that GT4 looks more, and would pick it over the M2 CS any day. Its just the better car.

Finally a drag race worth watching. Good drivers in manual cars.

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Jason!

Could you please tell us on which tyres are both cars?

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure for either, sorry!

Great race..very close, just wonder how the new GT will perform..

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. And yes would love to get that one day soon!

Both very respectable cars !

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Agree!

IT'S THE PERSON WHO DRIVES THE CAR THOUGH SO YH

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

All about reaction times! 😁👍

would like to see if the new GT4 can do any better

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Think so

Their both good love those cars

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

👍🏻

Depending on the start the race could have gone this or that way. The "old" GT4 was a really good match. - Great Lovecars Video!

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words Marc!

@marcnobel3938

3 жыл бұрын

@@lovecarsTV Thank you for the good content - which comes for free into my house on top. I remember to have paid a lot of money for TV Subscriptions which had content that was not even close to that in terms of quality and entertainment. So I can really appreciate that.

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Marc Nobel brilliant! Never looked at it that way! Thanks again

Should do best of 3

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Our channel does best of one. One shot only

why not compare with the 718 gt4 now?

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Do you have one? (we don't!)

I would have lost money there !

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Paul will say better driver ;)

The true measurement of a car's performancde is not acceleration runs, but lap times.

Carwow certainly inspired some people. Nice race.

Should have tested it with a 981 GT4 with PCCB brakes, lighter weight!

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Bring yours along one day. Would be a pleasure to do this!

@Fizzbomb123

3 жыл бұрын

Lovecars I sold it a few weeks ago, it was solely being used in Central London and the lockdown period was not helping!

great race and very interesting outcome, should have made it best of two... to be sure, and give the old guy a second chance, after all the CS probably had fresher rubber....no excuses mind you, Tiff he is going to be crowing about that win for years two similar cars both ICE with a manual box and he beat you..... great stuff guys :-) I will say this very quietly WELL DONE PAUL! :-)

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Ha! Thank you Alan! The only time we can beat Tiff is in a straight line!

@Tracertme

3 жыл бұрын

@@lovecarsTV keep it up Paul you are both great sports and we luv the banter between you, all honest friendly fun.... given how close this was a sequel with a lap time of each would be very interesting... then Tiff can showboat for us again.... :-)

Did I miss something or did they not show the actual 1/4mile times? Must have been mid to high 11s judging by the grip issues

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Chris, honest answer is we didn't do them as it would have been cheating the viewer. We did it on a track that is just short of the official ¼ mile so we chose to leave it off completely

@ChrisClifton

3 жыл бұрын

@@lovecarsTV thanks for the fast and honest answer. Great seeing the different cars and it really shows how much manual shifts impact these cars. Keep up the excellent work!

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Chris Clifton thank you very much Chris!

Why not use a 781... slightly quicker than the 981 and way faster on the track...

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Leon. not sure if you watched the video all the way through but we could only get hold of a 981 from a kind owner.

Considering the cayman gt4 is way more expensive it was only fair to use a last gen model

If the Cayman were optioned with the pdk, the results would be somewhat different

@marcthesharc991

3 жыл бұрын

There was never a pdk option for the 981 cayman gt4. Or was there?

@ApothecaryTerry

3 жыл бұрын

Nah GT4 is manual- they're adding PDK to the new GT4 literally this month as a new option. M2 can also have a DCT though so it's fairly irrelevant. Cayman is a much nicer car though, I just bought a 981 S and the M2 didn't even make my top 10 list.

@marcthesharc991

3 жыл бұрын

@@ApothecaryTerry yeah I know about them adding the pdk but I wasn't sure if I missed something about the last gen ^^

@secretivescorpio891

3 жыл бұрын

This is a silly comment, come on fella

@shravanav993

3 жыл бұрын

@@ApothecaryTerry Congratulations on your purchase man.

BMW BIMMER what a KING of a Brand. Buh to be honest I prefer both. They great German Cars.

Can we all agree that the real winner are those sweet M2 gold frost wheels?!

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Tiff was a big fan too!

What wonderful cars those are. I'd have the Beemer for the extra seats though!

@lovecarsTV

3 жыл бұрын

Nice choice!

@UTubeSL

3 жыл бұрын

@@lovecarsTV thanks! Cracking video as always!