I love how you just have no time for any BS when it comes to cooking myths or misconceptions. You don’t mince words, you rely on your experience and just respectfully and honestly tell it like it is. Much respect for that.

When I took a baking class at the local community College. The baking text book stated that there is a difference between icing and frosting. Frosting is usually creamy, fluffy and contains fat, and icing tend to be thinner and contains little to no fat. Think buttercream vs royal icing. :)

@user54389

3 жыл бұрын

Retired chef here...this, exactly. Icing is liquid plus sugar, frosting is fat plus sugar.

@ethanbrenna9798

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I've never had a formal baking class, but I've always understood an icing to be something you can pour onto a cake, while a frosting is thick enough that it needs to be spread.

@crabapples1995

3 жыл бұрын

I think icing is a more European thing.

@andreal840

3 жыл бұрын

@@crabapples1995 icing and frosting are used around the world. They are 2 separate types of sugar based coatings to inhance flavors, improve astetics and help keep baked goods from drying out as quickly.

@roadchewerpe5759

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrostedCreations Crisco is shortening right? I believe it’s made of plants, so I would think it would be common these days.

How about cherry coke with like a cherry cordial filling layer in between the two cake layers? That sounds amazing.

@boozeontherocks

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds really good.

@MaureenErrant

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds Black Forest-ish.....yummy actually.

@tohojedi9531

3 жыл бұрын

We used cherry pie filling on top and between layers and chocolate frosting on sides of cherry coke cake

@colleenuchiyama4916

3 жыл бұрын

Take your cordial, if it’s liquid, dilute it with water, and brush it on your layers. Nice subtle bang for your buck, and not overwhelming.

@gk6993

3 жыл бұрын

That's a beautiful idea.

In the southern part of the States we say both. The icing is thiner like the glaze on cinnamon buns. The frosting is thicker for cakes.

@charleslayton9463

3 жыл бұрын

What Audrey said -- from Iowa.

@Tsalagi978

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. Same in Georgia.

@RussRehm

3 жыл бұрын

I was going to say the same thing. Icing and glaze are interchangeable words for me, and is translucent and hardens in a thin layer. Frosting is creamy and airy.

@donnaclayton8644

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. Southeast Missouri here.

@fnjesusfreak

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds about right. New York.

Personally when I hear icing I generally think something hard like royal icing and frosting I think of something more spreadable like buttercream.

@tammystratford7079

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Iced cookies have royal icing, and frosted cookies have the much better and tastier, buttercream.

@robmaxwell189

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. frosting is thick and fluffy, icing is thin and glossy and sometimes even has a bit of a shell.

@MrAlFuture

3 жыл бұрын

Growing up in Tasmania, icing was the only word we used. Frosting as a term came later as an import from Nth America. Now I hear both. "Frosting" still sounds American to me though.

@Meggs23

3 жыл бұрын

California here. I feel like I hear both.

@fnjesusfreak

3 жыл бұрын

@Natty Fatty Sounds about like me and I'm in the northeast (actually, just across the ditch from Glen in Western New York).

I was born and raised in Erie, PA till age 13...we always called it "pop"...then moved to the deep south...now I call it "soda"...love hearing it called pop...brings me back to childhood lol! Great recipe..

@itatane

3 жыл бұрын

Greetings from Ashtabula Ohio, Tera! I ran into the same thing when I lived in Virginia years ago. Although NE Ohio is a little weird, too. Soda and pop are both used, seemingly without rhyme or reason.

@fnjesusfreak

3 жыл бұрын

@@itatane I use the two interchangeably. ;p That's because I grew up east of Syracuse and spent most of my life north of Buffalo. :P

Buttermilk is violently hard to procure where I live. Always substituted it with lemon / white vinegar, but I've never heard of the sour cream/yogurt trick. Definitely giving that a shot the next time around.

@colleenuchiyama4916

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it’ll give you a beautiful, tender crumb, whether in cake, bread, muffins, or pancakes.

“All of the pops work!” 😜 love this show!

Always been icing here in Sarnia, ON. I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one who licks the beaters/spatula.

As a Texan, I’m very happy to see you do this Glen. Long live the Dr Pep!

I thought this looked familiar right off the bat. I made your Ultimate Dump Cake recipe earlier this month as my own birthday cake, and it was fabulous. I have no doubt this will have pretty much the same results. One thing I did differently was use yoghurt whey (I make my own Greek yoghurt) and it basically does the same thing as buttermilk.

Okay, I'm fasting this morning for a lab test, so watching this video was very fun in a painful kind of way. :-)

@honthirty_

3 жыл бұрын

Hope for good results!

@d14551

3 жыл бұрын

@@Paultimate7 Back from the lab, re-watching this video on a full stomach. :-)

Across Lake Ontario from you, in WNY I generally say frosting. We also say pop :)

Frosting in my family is either a butter frosting or a 7 minute one, icing means something like a melted thing that forms a hard crust on the cake. At least in so far as I can figure.

@lilacblumen

3 жыл бұрын

Anthony described perfectly the difference between frosting and icing for me, a Michigander.

@AltNixon

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. Frosting is a creamy spreadable coating, Icing is a pourable coating that hardens when it cools. From Kansas.

@MakunaRGBIC

3 жыл бұрын

Frosting you spread, icing you pour over.

@katherinetutschek4757

2 жыл бұрын

We use "icing" for everything, but you could also call the thin runny one a glaze. I'm from Alberta.

Here in the U.S. this kind of cake is almost always made as a sheet cake, and it gets a cooked icing that gets poured over (often with nuts in it) and it forms a sort of fudgy shellac layer on top of the cake. It's really good.

Today is my birthday, and I had a Coca-Cola cake with homemade chocolate walnut frosting! We used "frosting" on the cake, but I told my daughter I was "icing" the cake when it was cooled completely! I never thought about what I called the cake topping or how I used those terms interchangeably - so interesting! Great video, now I want to try and make a Dr. Pepper cake!

I love orange and chocolate. I had found a Greek restaurant that made a chocolate cake with Grand Marnier. It was awesome.

Heyyy...I tried this recipe and it was turned out amazing....!!!😍💕😋 Thank - You 😊❤️✌️

From Minnesota. We called soda Pop, I still do. That would be frosting on the cake. Icing would be much looser, and would be a very thin layer. I am loving your channel!

Boiling Dr Pepper? That just reminds me of Blast From The Past! (In my part of Australia, it’s called Icing)

@NickTaylorRickPowers

3 жыл бұрын

I've never heard of this in Melbourne. Have to give it a try

@SamM-lv8hr

3 жыл бұрын

In Texas, some people drink it like tea

@joantrotter3005

3 жыл бұрын

@@SamM-lv8hr , my husband grew up drinking Dr Pepper with Red Hots. I found it disgusting! They also called it wassail, which it definitely is NOT!

@nickbriggs9620

3 жыл бұрын

The most underrated 90s movie

@Bojac

3 жыл бұрын

In like the 60s they tried marketing hot Dr. Pepper as a Christmas-time drink.

I'm not the only one who licks the batter. Frosting? Icing? I use them both. Any argument would be over quantity. I like a lot.

Loves this Canadian man calling it pop!!

When I was a kid, my friends mother would make a chocolate mayonnaise cake. It was very rich and moist. I think you might find it interesting to try sometime. We lived in Stouffville, ON (not far from you!) but his mother was from the Northwest Territories. Not sure if this is a regional recipe or not.

@katherinetutschek4757

2 жыл бұрын

Cool, first time I've heard of this. I'm not a mayonnaise fan, but in a cake it could be good!

Icing for donuts, frosting for cakes. Appreciate all the comments below. Glen, you are great!!!! Look forward to your videos.

I judge these by the size of Glen's happy dance after tasting. This was more of a happy bounce, so it's probably a good cake 😃

Australia calls it icing.👏👏👍🇦🇺

Glenn is Canadian - here the terms icing and frosting are interchangeable. In the Maritimes where I live, I think "icing" is more traditional and commonly heard. 😊 Looks yummy!

Like you, Glen, I'm from the GTA and we've always called it icing. And so nice to hear you call Dr. Pepper "pop" not soda. Go Leafs Go!!

It makes me happy hear other people outside my state refer to soft drink as pop.

Mmm nothing like a big hunk of chocolate cake! I'll get the coffee!!!

As a Dr. Pepper fan, I love Glen continuing down this rabbit hole. May it never end. Though if you ever branch into other pop related cooking, try doing something with Brio!!

I laughed when I saw you'd made a Dr. Pepper cake after the Dr. Pepper jerky. Here's a soda-based recipe to try: I had a co-worker who was half Korean who learned to make Korean style ribs with a marinade that was half Coca-Cola and half 7-Up. The ribs were amazing!

@katherinetutschek4757

2 жыл бұрын

They do this in Hong Kong, too! With just Coke.

Appreciate that you mentioned replacing a neutral acid and milk for fermented dairy results in an insipid cake or what have you. Really does make a difference. Also Midwest US and typically use frosting for what you made. Icing usually is confectioners sugar and milk/water.

@IMJwhoRU

3 жыл бұрын

I also appreciated the idea of using yogurt or sour cream. I had never thought of that but it makes sense.

@katherinetutschek4757

2 жыл бұрын

Both sour cream and buttermilk are really hard to find where I live, and most of the yogurt is 0% fat, which isn't great for baking, so I use the lemon juice milk he mentions, too. Even if it's not ideal, it's certainly better than plain milk for the crumb texture.

It sounded to me like someone just laid down the challenge Orange soda/pop cake at the 75/25 ratio. Will Glen take up the challenge?

In Vermont we typically say that frosting has larger grains of sugar and is thicker, and icing has smaller grains of sugar and is tinner, kind of like ice is slick but frost is more crystalline, if that makes sense

“Love your life don’t worry about the small things” thanks for doing what you do Glen! Love your channel!

@slawnski

3 жыл бұрын

Live.... typo!

(UK) Most people just call it icing but home cooks here (including me) will probably tell you that there's a difference between the two terms. Frosting has a lot more fat in it, is much softer, can applied in quick a thick layer and is unlikely to set firm (e.g. buttercream/meringue) while icing is thinner, firmer and will set hard(er) (e.g. fondant or royal (my favourite cake icing)).

I like that you call it pop. I do too. Most people down here call it soda or soda pop. The cake looks delicious.

Made this recipe recently. Very good! Excellent cake body and flavor. Frosting also a home run! Two thumbs up!

Love you guys, just make it fun to make food and enjoy and discuss it. I would love to hear about anything with Root Beer.

A split second before Glen said he doesn’t use all the icing, I thought where’s the rest of the icing! Great video. Thanks.

Frosting tends to be like butter cream here. Icing is generally like a glaze or a thick pourable glaze, but they are also used interchangeably.

In Germany we call it Guß/Guss (old/new style), which translate directly to cast (cast iron = Gusseisen) or pour (pouring rain = Regenguss). But acutly both Frosting and Icing are used nowadays because the german comercials love anglicisms and pseudo-anglicism (like mobile phone = Handy, like the phone fits nicely in you hand or something along these lines)

I grew up in Midwest US, and It's all "frosting." And I like hearing you refer to the coke & Dr pepper as "pop." I didn't realize that was common anywhere other than the Midwest. "Soda" is Arm & Hammer.

@solistheonegod

3 жыл бұрын

It’s pop in the Uk too

I live about an hour out of Toronto, and I've always come to know a frosting as a whipped butter based cake topping. Icing is thinner, more like a glaze. At least that's how I know it.

'Pop'. Hahaha. I love how different areas say carbonated beverage. Here in Texas, everything is a coke. "What kind of coke do you want?" "A Dr Pepper." My mother is English so I grew up with Frosting is the fluffy spreadable stuff and icing is basically a slurry of powdered sugar and a flavouring you drizzle over the cake. But of course, there was 7 minute or Royal icing you put on christmas puddings.

That recipe you sent really helped me and it went really good. Thank you!

frosting and icing are both different things! i'd call this a frosting!

I have a friend that makes a root beer chocolate frosting. It's delish.

This guy is a HOOT!! Haha!! Love this cake.... minus the egg lol. In America, for the most part, I believe we top cakes with frosting. Cookies can have an icing or a frosting.

Frosting or Icing it is all YUMMY!

I would not call you a madlad since we use to do a coca cola cake here in Brazil. Nice video, as always. :)

I put salt in my bc (buttercream) because salt does more to separate and amp up flavors than any other single ingredient. My mentor, Hubie, told me salt is always needed because it makes everything taste like itself. His theory. My secret ingredient gift for you

From Texas. Frosting or icing is basically interchangeable here. Wouldn't be unusual to hear either one. EDIT: This is in my experience. I'm sure there are plenty of people here that understand the differences and use the words appropriately.

@skr8674

3 жыл бұрын

Texas sheet cake!

@joannesmith2484

3 жыл бұрын

Same in NE/Mid-Atlantic USA. I've heard both probably evenly, and have used them interchangeably. Maybe a bit more toward icing. Same with the verb for applying it: frosting a cake or icing a cake. Same thing.

Frosting to me is a very American term. Where I grew up in Scotland, it was all “icing”. What I guess Americans call “frosting” was to us “butter icing”.

@michaelshotts6482

3 жыл бұрын

There is a actual difference between frosting and and icing. Icing is like you find on ring cakes. Icing is powder sugar based and frosting is buttercream based.

Glen, your Dr. Pepper cake looks phenomenal!!!! I have to make this cake!!!! Thanks

"Live your life. It doesn't have to be exact. There's HUUUGE things to worry about now." I love this. If you wanna be exact, go ahead but Glen's looks just fine. ... I learned this years ago in art school. When matting our final presentation, most folks did a difficult measuring job to make sure their artwork was PERFECTLY centered. I just eyeballed it and stuck it on. I figured ... it's our eyeballs judging the accuracy anyway, not a ruler. It's fine. I never got a complaint from any of my professors. :)

Cakes are frosted, but growing up I heard it both ways. I was raised in California with grandparents from the Maritimes, so many of my domestic regionalisms are confused. My wife didn't know what I was talking about the first time I tried talking about the garburator, for instance

my family all loves eating this cake cold the day after it is made and has a chance to chill in the fridge.

I was taught icing is confectioners sugar, milk, and a little bit of flavoring extract. Frosting is much thicker. I grew up in Buffalo New York.

My mother told me the origin behind the Coca-Cola cake was a way to stretch your sugar during rationing. Sugar was hard to come by. But, Coca-Cola was easy to get. My Mom's recipe had marshmallows in it. Again she said marshmallows were easy to get.. Back in the day Coca-Cola was made with cane sugar and she said much sweeter.

Family from Maine and New Hampshire, and we called it frosting. Icing was the stuff you used to decorate on top of the frosting

that cake looks so good. I have a freind who is a bake and she would twitch every time someone said I'm going to eyeball it. I would love a piece of this cake.

I am just a few hours down the road from you Glen, and I say icing (instead of frosting) and soda (instead of pop). I guess it just depends on your family traditions.

Icing if it's more of a glaze, frosting if it's kinda yummy & buttercream! CA roots with an endlessly cooking mom. p.s. Right around 1974-5 Mom started making a Beet Cake--chocolate with loads of beets. My sister and I were quite alarmed as neither of us had, up until that point, eaten a beet (I think both my parents had eaten a few too many when they were kids). However, Mom was never afraid to try something new. (Plus, it had a very delicious chocolate buttercream frosting.) We went camping with that beauty queen along, and that's when I lost my fear of beets. Fantastic cake! I think the beets are mashed or grated, and add to the moisture, tenderness, and sweetness, like a harlequin carrot cake with none of those spices...just chocolate, chocolate, and more chocolate. Mm-mm! Yummy

We tried the recipe. The cake is AMAZING. The most soft and moist cake I've ever had, and the flavor... The flavor is so rich from the buttermilk and Dr. Pepper. (even though you can't specifically taste it) Might try a version with more Dr. Pepper next time, or a different 'pop'. Buttermilk was easy to get here in the Netherlands. We're a dairy country, it's very common haha. Plenty of choice in the supermarket.

Very curious about that orange pop idea. I may have to try that.

For my family icing was like a glaze or something similar. Frosting was straight up buttercream or other fluffy stuff. Personally not a huge fan of either, really like my cakes straight up. xD

Something you might want to try, last night we smoked ribs, during the last hour we basted them twice with Crown Royal Peach. It carmelized and gave the impression of bbq sauce

Thank you for those buttermilk alternatives tip! Always nice to learn something new. Time slot @3:33

Hey Glen. I'm a fan and just wanted to tell you that I really enjoy your content. I appreciate the depth and breadth of your knowledge, and I like that you don't have some kind of "agenda" e.g. vegan, e.g. local, e.g. snobby. I talk to my friends enough about your channel that they tell me to shutup. Anyway, thanks, and thanks for representing Toronto.

Frosting is what I would call that - icing is, in my brain, thinner and more glaze-like, usually dries to a kind of hard/crust finish? At least, that's the difference in my head.

Here in Iowa, if it has butter or cream cheese in it, it is frosting. If it has milk, lemon juice or some other liquid, it is icing.

I love that you say pop, you’re literally the only youtuber that i’ve heard say it the way i do

@JTCFC1

3 жыл бұрын

In Canada and the UK they call it pop

I have made a coke cake before...yummy.!

That looks delicious. Also called icing here in South Africa.

I'm in New Mexico USA, and we use icing and frosting interchangeably. Also, thanks for the buttermilk hack, I will keep it in mind.

My mom always called the thicker kind you spread with a knife or spoon frosting, and the thinner kind you drizzled over a cake icing.

I appreciate you sharing your baking knowledge and the research that went in to making this cake.

I just got done tonight making a soda pop cake. And I did something horribly wrong. It turned out more like a dense baked pudding. I'm so glad you're showing your method. Btw- I really enjoy frosting🥰🥰🥰

Wow... thank you. I was thinking of making a dr pepper cake out of nowhere yesterday and I never ever make or eat cakes or drink dr pepper and found this video 1 day after I think about making it.

I was so confused by the buttermilk portion, but then I remembered I'm used to your historical recipes where buttermilk is a very different thing.

As a Brit it's always icing a cake and icing sugar. I have seen a few of my countrymen call it "frosting" though due to American influence. I really love the debunking about the carbonation though, and Jules it's always a delight. One day I hope to see you reverse roles. just for fun.

Love it! No shame in the spoon licking game!

Frosting and icing are interchangeable for my brain when others say it living in Mid- Michigan. When I say it, the buttercream type is frosting, the generally white, thinner, firmer stuff that sets up a bit when it gets cold that you'd put on a bunt cake or cinnamon rolls is icing 😁

Mmmmmm kolaches and dr pepper cake from the Czech stop in West Texas this recipe makes me homesick

Lived all around the D.C. Metro area USA. Frosting: Is a "creamier" confection; When applied to a cool cake it stands on it's own like a soft whipped cream, is spongy and dries matte. Icing: Is a "harder" confection; More often used for detail decorations on cakes or cookies, after a 'curing time' it lays flatter, is more brittle/crumbly, and can be glossy or matte. Although I also see people/advertisements saying whipped cream icing or whipped cream frosting interchangeably, shelf stable "Whipped Frosting" is also a thing which is it's own separate thing entirely.

Seattle area I grew up with frosting, but after taking cake decorating classes icing was used interchangeable with frosting.

Made me hungry

Weight watchers came out with a diet soda cake decades ago. You use one can of diet soda and one box of cake mix. Blend well, bake according to box directions. It does not rise as high, but it is the moistest cake you will ever eat. I have found that there is never much of any residual flavor from the soda, but I do try to keep in mind the flavor palettes that I am working with when making hear cakes. Spice cake gets root beer or ginger ale, chocolate a cola or cherry cola, lemon a ginger ale, etc.

I say frosting. My grandmother iced cakes with frosting though. And I still use the idiom about “icing on the cake”. I grew up in Denver in the sixties. Grandma started I Minnesota, but lived for years in Montana.

Please do a full on dr pepper cake. Love your work!!

My mom used to make 7 Up pancakes. I wish I had that recipe.

Aussie here, icing is the traditional term, frosting is well understood too, and often conveys the idea of an American style icing (fluffier and thicker than we are used too). Icing here is usually what Glen mentioned as “a thin glaze”.

Frosting is thick and spread with a frosting knife. An offset spatula, if you will. Icing is like glaze for donutS, but for cakes. It’s thin and is drizzled over the cake. Like a Bundt cake for example. Pacific Northwest, USA.

I have to have all of the frosting on my cake. Nice and thick.

In New Zealand i grew up to “ Ice a cake” only in the last 10 years with imported products on our food chain shelves have we become a custom to using the term “ frosting” cake looks great by the way!! Jason

I call it frosting, but I grew up in California. Only back home for about one year. It’s good to be back! 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

THANKS for another fine video!

In my family "frosting" is the thick topping on cakes 🎂. "Icing" is the thin topping used on cookies 🍪 . Haha you made me think. Cheers.