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  • @loreramble
    @loreramble11 ай бұрын

    Learn all about the prophetic dragon dreams of House Targaryen here kzread.info/dash/bejne/m4RqxaWjfpTgfdI.html

  • @wowrosa
    @wowrosa Жыл бұрын

    I like the theory that it was the Maesters that poisoned the dragons considering their hatred of magic

  • @carlost856

    @carlost856

    Жыл бұрын

    Would make sense to hate it seeing their destructive power. They did the right thing.

  • @rinray9685

    @rinray9685

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@carlost856 they were jealous

  • @peterl3417

    @peterl3417

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rinray9685 You’re both right in a way. It’s a shame not to see such powerful and beautiful beasts in real life, but they would be used as nukes to prevent any social change or technological change that would break up the power of the kings and nobles. In the end, that’s all they care about, and a peasant’s/commoner’s life is meaningless to them beyond the service and food they provide.

  • @carlost856

    @carlost856

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rinray9685 They were concerned for human life as proved by Dany. I'm not jealous of mass destruction weapons, I want them gone,

  • @rinray9685

    @rinray9685

    Жыл бұрын

    @@carlost856 again they're jealous they want all the power for themselves, westros should be grateful for the Targaryens who literally enden thier war of 7 kings that lead to a lot of people's death and managed to lead a dynasty of peace at least better than the 7 kings era but instead of being grateful they were bitching because they are jealous of the power they hold acting like the disgusting Westerns that they were esso's people are far better than them.

  • @fouff925
    @fouff925 Жыл бұрын

    That image of vhagar chasing arrax is fire

  • @evanbelisle8464

    @evanbelisle8464

    2 ай бұрын

    I hope Vhagar likes all the shit just pouring from my ass if I was in that situation.

  • @Luis-ou9fn

    @Luis-ou9fn

    Ай бұрын

    Which one was that?

  • @fathimanuwaisa6435
    @fathimanuwaisa6435 Жыл бұрын

    The size difference between Vhagar and arrax man💀

  • @thalmoragent9344

    @thalmoragent9344

    Жыл бұрын

    On gawd

  • @Dani_1012

    @Dani_1012

    8 ай бұрын

    Terrifying

  • @plzleavemealone9660

    @plzleavemealone9660

    3 ай бұрын

    To be fair Arrax was just born few years prior.

  • @vetnome

    @vetnome

    3 ай бұрын

    And imagine baelerion

  • @Random-fz2rg

    @Random-fz2rg

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@vetnomeNahhh 💀

  • @Volkrad
    @Volkrad Жыл бұрын

    "A dragon is not a slave" The dragons:

  • @diollinebranderson6553

    @diollinebranderson6553

    9 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @eevee3168

    @eevee3168

    3 ай бұрын

    There wasn't slaves, just lived in worst places.

  • @Emanuel-oo6mc
    @Emanuel-oo6mc Жыл бұрын

    My theory is the maesters, as well as other lords, did this to destroy the power of house Targaryen as a way to usurp the throne.

  • @esppupsnkits4560

    @esppupsnkits4560

    Жыл бұрын

    This makes more sense than just attributing it to a hatred of magic

  • @Gen1Demmi

    @Gen1Demmi

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean if that were the case why did it take a few generations after the dragons died for them to be overthrown? I mean regardless, there were still MANY houses loyal to the Targaryens. They had no dragons for nearly 100 years.

  • @peterl3417

    @peterl3417

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Gen1Demmi Same reason dynasties in Europe took hundreds of years to fall before new ones took their place-they already had their chess pieces set up in the right place to control the continent. Only problem being that everyone else is setting theirs up and you don’t have dragons to stop them. I haven’t read the books, but I figure an all out war like GoT wouldn’t be on many nobles’ stomachs.

  • @sauce6746

    @sauce6746

    Жыл бұрын

    I find it hard to believe Targaryens would be so careless

  • @sierrahatfield5883

    @sierrahatfield5883

    Жыл бұрын

    But that doesn't make sense because the because the baratheon house(the one to take the throne eventually) was founded upon a Targaryen bastard, for a very long time they were blackof hair and with voilet eyes since they married back to Targaryens often.

  • @j0hncarp
    @j0hncarp Жыл бұрын

    That's why the Cannibal was a beast. It's second only to Vhagar and Balerion. It ate whatever the hell it wanted and wasn't in captivity

  • @AaronGuest

    @AaronGuest

    Жыл бұрын

    Cannibal only ate smaller baby dragons. Also nothing says it was second to Vhagar/Balerion at all. The Cannibal was likely around the same size as Vermithor or slightly smaller.

  • @MorallyDubiousFrog

    @MorallyDubiousFrog

    Жыл бұрын

    Cannibal was smaller than Vermithor.

  • @B1ackWolf

    @B1ackWolf

    Жыл бұрын

    All of the comments above me are false we have no facts about the size of the Cannibal. We just know that it ate dragon eggs and any dragon that was weaker or younger than he was. For his size it is widely speculated because that is how GRRM wanted it to be, some stories say that he was on dragon stone before the targaryens came to dragon stone so that would make him older and bigger than Balerion, however this is just a myth we don't know if its true. We'll have to wait for season 2 of HotD.

  • @MorallyDubiousFrog

    @MorallyDubiousFrog

    Жыл бұрын

    @@B1ackWolf He didn’t eat any dragons besides eggs and hatchlings. Vhagar is stated to be the largest living dragon at the time of the Dance. Vermiyhor is stated to have already grown to be the third largest after Balerion and Vhagar by 48 AC. The only statement on Cannibal’s size is that he’s bigger than Sheepstealer and Grey Ghost.

  • @B1ackWolf

    @B1ackWolf

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MorallyDubiousFrog Another false statement. They are the largest tamed dragons, also the cannibal did attack dragons, he got the name by eating dead dragons, newly born and dragon eggs. He even attacked sheepstealer before it ran off and then he proceeded to eat Silver Denys and his sons. And as I said his size is purposely left out to inspire wonder. Nobody even knows what happens to him after the dance of the dragons.

  • @thickac7579
    @thickac7579 Жыл бұрын

    People also forget how young danny's dragons were and yet they were the size of Caraxes or similar, a old veteran dragon that was around 60 years old. I bet it was a mix of multiple things. The maesters poisoning the eggs + the magic in the world fading + the Targaryens treating them as pets. I mean one of the things that surprised me a lot in house of the dragon was the amount of contempt everyone had for these giant murder machines.

  • @caurd

    @caurd

    8 ай бұрын

    Only in the show, in the books, balerion is slighty bigger than a horse

  • @just_me_myself_and_I_99

    @just_me_myself_and_I_99

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@caurdwhat?

  • @just_me_myself_and_I_99

    @just_me_myself_and_I_99

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@caurdwhat?

  • @caurd

    @caurd

    8 ай бұрын

    @@just_me_myself_and_I_99 I want to mean drogon

  • @Lumistrocity

    @Lumistrocity

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@just_me_myself_and_I_99 Dannies dragons are basically a different breed than those in fire and blood, because grrm can't give them 10+ years to grow, so at like 3 Years they are the size of pike 15 year old dragons of fire and blood

  • @HenT8991
    @HenT8991 Жыл бұрын

    The dragonpit is pretty sound considering the idea that it's an illusion that Targaryens can really master these powerful creatures who have their own mind. Being able to still have the most powerful tool for your power and keep it a barely manageable size really helps. Or you got a massive flying island burning entire continents because it has an itch on its ash.

  • @Alice-we1wq
    @Alice-we1wq Жыл бұрын

    A heard a theory that the dragons were born of blood magic, and the reason they grew so large was because of the death around them. Valyria saw hundreds if not thousands of slaves die daily, and Aegons conquest saw to the death of millions of Westerosi people, but eventually the conquests and killing decreased and the dragons stopped growing as much. Though imo its a combination of captivity, less freedom, less food, and the masters intervention. I wonder if HOTD will explain it or mention it

  • @harrysingh6023

    @harrysingh6023

    7 ай бұрын

    Your mention of the maesters is valid because if you watch HOTD king Viserys had a maester with him to cure his illness worsen over time it could be that they were slowly worsening his condition.

  • @Tom_Cruise_Missile

    @Tom_Cruise_Missile

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@harrysingh6023maesters are just doctors though. Him having one treating him isn't a sign of anything.

  • @stimpaxx
    @stimpaxx Жыл бұрын

    man the design they went with for Caraxes face is so good. so fucking sinister

  • @thalmoragent9344
    @thalmoragent9344 Жыл бұрын

    Depends as well, cause some Dragons were only occasionally locked up, like Vermithor was, but he's still massive cause Jaehaerys flew quite a bit, and after he died, was chilling on Dragonstone cause he had no rider and the Dragonkeepers likely understood that he'd be too large to stay there for long.

  • @Logan38480
    @Logan38480 Жыл бұрын

    Drogon bouta be big af the last free dragon

  • @yippeekiyay7132

    @yippeekiyay7132

    Жыл бұрын

    drogon in the books is not big same size to a horse

  • @killworgmr6200

    @killworgmr6200

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@yippeekiyay7132 the video stated that if given freedom and food there is no limit to their growth, so maybe drogon is still growing

  • @yippeekiyay7132

    @yippeekiyay7132

    Жыл бұрын

    @@killworgmr6200 maybe

  • @dillonmartin7411

    @dillonmartin7411

    Жыл бұрын

    @@yippeekiyay7132 hes as big as season five of game of thrones. There’s a possibility we’ll see season six and maybe season 7 size drogon. Her dragons are growing fast in the books as well, faster than any dragon that came before hers.

  • @dineshbalu6107

    @dineshbalu6107

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@dillonmartin7411 Nope. They r growing fast. But not the fastest growing Dragon. That honour goes to Vermithor. He bacame close to Balerion's size in just 100 years.

  • @thereccher8746
    @thereccher8746 Жыл бұрын

    There's always a theory that the Maesters were responsible for someone's or something's death. Poor Maesters can't get a break.

  • @thesandwich5321

    @thesandwich5321

    Жыл бұрын

    I think the suspicion's well founded in this case!

  • @AFPLJohnny

    @AFPLJohnny

    11 ай бұрын

    The Maester’s are honestly sketchy as hell though, they have way too much power and influence over Westeros.

  • @ShadyQueenReads

    @ShadyQueenReads

    9 күн бұрын

    The maesters were not poor!! They did a lot

  • @Keram-io8hv

    @Keram-io8hv

    7 күн бұрын

    Masters did nothing wrong

  • @lkrdp9463
    @lkrdp9463 Жыл бұрын

    I remember from another vid that a producer said the dragons were a product of Valyrian "genetics" with a touch of magic. So theres probably a high chance their growth can be affected by human and magic intervention.

  • @theguy3500
    @theguy3500 Жыл бұрын

    Bro pumping out these lore videos everyday lol

  • @xdaisyfallsx1678

    @xdaisyfallsx1678

    7 ай бұрын

    Yea, get like 30 a day and I’m not mad, cuz mad lore

  • @emiroze9438
    @emiroze9438 Жыл бұрын

    I hate that i need to keep on reminding myself Its a fantasy novel, its a fantasy novel.

  • @OreoCookie324

    @OreoCookie324

    Жыл бұрын

    shut up

  • @silverninja5218
    @silverninja521811 ай бұрын

    Is this why Danny's dragons are so large. Also her 2 dragons she locked up for a year are a tad bit smaller than Drogon.

  • @user-og1xf9jt5v

    @user-og1xf9jt5v

    6 ай бұрын

    it only happened in the show.In the books they still small Drogon is the same size as a horse

  • @SantomPh

    @SantomPh

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@user-og1xf9jt5vin the fifth book Drogon has a wingspan of 16 meters (52 feet) . That is a huge horse.

  • @animeshsingh5347
    @animeshsingh5347 Жыл бұрын

    What do you think guys, are dragons necessary for the safety of realm...i mean they could defeat other houses with armies, navies and battle machines but dragons will be useful when fighting other things like White walkers...etc

  • @joe9739
    @joe9739 Жыл бұрын

    Dragon Pit, The Dance of Dragons, Summer Hall, and King Robert's Rebellion.

  • @karimmoorad9649

    @karimmoorad9649

    20 күн бұрын

    Blackfyre rebellions? Sorry im a newbie to ASOIAF😂

  • @snow-in4zp
    @snow-in4zp Жыл бұрын

    So I saw a video a while back talking about how goldfish will only grow to a certain point based on how much of a chemical that they create is in the water maybe it's the same for dragons and since they didn't have the right kind of cleaning stuff than the dragons withered and died dew to their body's physically not being able to grow.

  • @LittleHammer_
    @LittleHammer_ Жыл бұрын

    Yep, Targaryens were the downfall of their own house. Sad honestly. I mean how could they be so enamored with themselves they didn’t see the obvious?! Terrible

  • @Tms0211

    @Tms0211

    7 ай бұрын

    Honestly it’s the imbreeding. It made them crazy, mean, and dumb.

  • @jaxsonm1808
    @jaxsonm1808 Жыл бұрын

    I think that the “death” of the dragons was something that needed to happen.. with dragons alive that meant that there was always something/someone who was practically a god. When the dragons “died” it really leveled the field and I think the maesters understood that too..

  • @dissisme5311

    @dissisme5311

    Жыл бұрын

    That didn't stop daenerys from having her own dragons .

  • @jaxsonm1808

    @jaxsonm1808

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dissisme5311 yeah, but tbh her eggs were like full on petrified for like 300 years and I don’t think that the maesters were expecting what happened lmao.. I kinda meant the downfall of dragons on Westero pre- Daenerys

  • @dissisme5311

    @dissisme5311

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jaxsonm1808 maesters are supercorrupt and vicious. Qyburn exposed them . The alchemists created wildfire and targaryens used them for 200 years

  • @ricaivory6571

    @ricaivory6571

    Жыл бұрын

    That didn't level the playing field. What actually got better bcuz there was no dragon? Instead of dragon fire, they used wildfire. They just wanted a dragon and couldn't have one bcuz the targaryens were bound by magic to the dragons. There is no level playing Field, EVER. If it Was, the lannisters wouldn't have had most of the money in westeros.

  • @siran424

    @siran424

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@ricaivory6571 The Lannisters may have had the most wealth, but the houses of the Reach were no less. They were also wealthy, had fertile lands and had the most men. The Riverlands were obviously not as wealthy as the former two, but they also a region with fertile lands and adequate supplies and men. The Vale, North and the Stormlands had strong men due to their geography and circumstances. The Iron Islands were the pirates and the Dornish were the guerrillas. So they all balanced each other out.

  • @novandita9071
    @novandita9071 Жыл бұрын

    They need to have dragon island for dragon to roam around and hunting there

  • @user-un7yu1oo5y
    @user-un7yu1oo5y Жыл бұрын

    something fishy about Oldtown. The maesters and the Hightower always up to some sh*ts in Westeros.

  • @Falconforge89

    @Falconforge89

    11 ай бұрын

    They were essentially the true power in Westeros before Aegon

  • @andrewcook1246
    @andrewcook1246 Жыл бұрын

    A lot of the world history makes no sense. Imagine all those dragons in Old Valyria and how many livestock they would kill daily just to stay fed and the unintended chaos.

  • @Havok91
    @Havok914 ай бұрын

    "They are a power that Men should never have trifled with."

  • @Riimaachan
    @Riimaachan10 ай бұрын

    By the time game of thrones starts, the canibal would make belarion look like a gecko

  • @DRourkey
    @DRourkey12 күн бұрын

    Imagine trying to raise an Olympic sprinter in a room they totally have enough room to grow in

  • @samuelfawell9159
    @samuelfawell9159 Жыл бұрын

    At least I suppose that if Drogon was free, the wild dragons might return (although I dont know if they ever mentioned how dragons breed)

  • @aluna1234

    @aluna1234

    Жыл бұрын

    I've seen people say that dragons in GoT are asexual and reproduce that way but I'm not sure. If that's true then Westeros is about to get a whole horde of dragons with no one to stop them lol

  • @samuelfawell9159

    @samuelfawell9159

    Жыл бұрын

    @@aluna1234 good, it’s something I hate that the idea of the dragons being driven to extinction because of humanity and Dani’s family in particular because they thought the dragons where like horses than anything else

  • @SantomPh

    @SantomPh

    Жыл бұрын

    They are asexual in terms of mating but only females lay eggs. Dreamfyre was particularly prolific as was Silverwing

  • @ricaivory6571

    @ricaivory6571

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@samuelfawell9159 the dragons were pushed to extinction bcuz of the doom. Danny's family were the bottom of the barrel in valyria where dragons were bigger than balerion. The Doom, killed all the best dragons and their riders, along with the best eggs. If anything. The Targaryens saved them from the doom. If not for them, there wouldn't have been a single dragon at all.

  • @neymardasilvasantosjunior7347

    @neymardasilvasantosjunior7347

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ricaivory6571droggon might save is own species too cause he’s asexual

  • @JohnSmith-bw1lr
    @JohnSmith-bw1lr11 ай бұрын

    Tbf the dragons would just kill anyone that wasn't bonded to them. It was either chain them up or forever hated by the citizens

  • @leasanti1395
    @leasanti13958 ай бұрын

    Thats the reason why Drogon was much bigger than His Brothers. He was Not in chains with them, when the became to wild and kill Humans.

  • @kingkongchief1177
    @kingkongchief11775 ай бұрын

    Almost all of them getting killed during the dance of the dragons didn’t help either LMAO.

  • @takotako808
    @takotako80818 күн бұрын

    Seeing the dragons in chains was probably the saddest part of GOT

  • @no_one01-5
    @no_one01-57 ай бұрын

    While I the Dragonpit makes sense, I think it's the grey rats conspiring against them that really killed off the dragons.

  • @arnoldtabor3767
    @arnoldtabor3767 Жыл бұрын

    I like the maester theory, I mean the dragon pit limiting size makes sense but once they're let out of they should start growing again really

  • @sweetkisses900
    @sweetkisses900 Жыл бұрын

    They couldn't kill dragons but they could kill riders. Not all targaryens can ride dragons or hatch the eggs.

  • @nhugh23
    @nhugh232 ай бұрын

    It would also explain why Drogon was larger than Viserion and Rhaegal. The other two had been kept in captivity for a time

  • @markanthony1004
    @markanthony100411 ай бұрын

    Keep in mind GRRM said the dragons of Old Valyria(spelling) would’ve made The Black Dread look small. They grew up to enormous sizes like football field length an larger

  • @MorallyDubiousFrog

    @MorallyDubiousFrog

    10 ай бұрын

    Nowhere has Martin said that.

  • @finnbruton7274
    @finnbruton72745 ай бұрын

    Stannis: “*fewer, clutches of eggs”

  • @nateroger9365
    @nateroger936511 ай бұрын

    Or maybe the maesters were behind it 👀

  • @grimsgraveyard3598
    @grimsgraveyard35989 ай бұрын

    Have to wonder why they didn't let them roam for a period of time until they got balerion large or vhaghar. Then kept them for defensive purposes in the dragon pit so they could quickly mount them if needed. Also why they allowed anyone but their own family to care or even get near their dragons is beyond me. How certain were they that some surviving valaryian deagon rider bastards or something didn't survive. Maybe not even knowing they were and they bonded with one of their dragons.

  • @MorallyDubiousFrog

    @MorallyDubiousFrog

    8 ай бұрын

    It took a century for Balerion to get Balerion large.

  • @tyroned114
    @tyroned1142 ай бұрын

    There has to be plenty of dragon eggs laying around. I think they're in petrified/hibernating state since the circumstances for eggs to hatch is unique.

  • @richardroopnarine870
    @richardroopnarine870 Жыл бұрын

    How exactly would the Maesters have accomplished that undetected for so long? The captivity theory is better

  • @mairon1479
    @mairon14792 күн бұрын

    i think huge reason to why dragons shrinked is that targaryens forgot or dont know how to use blood magic as valyrians did. Blood magic had a huge part of dragons control and growth most likely, tho im not sure what i said was confirmed

  • @turtlewolf5050
    @turtlewolf5050 Жыл бұрын

    Well kinda skipped a key moment that really sped along the dying of the dragons. Like when the shepherd lead a psychotic mod that killed like 4 dragons. With the bigger dragons sadly dying during the dance.

  • @Orcaluv26
    @Orcaluv26 Жыл бұрын

    “Maesters may have poisoned-“ Another reason to hate the freaking Hightowers.

  • @Keram-io8hv

    @Keram-io8hv

    7 күн бұрын

    Yeah maesters also created Walkers, doomed old Valyria (actually beautiful progressive place full of love) and oversalted my tea

  • @felicitys3621
    @felicitys3621 Жыл бұрын

    You have no idea how much I love this channel. This is the only one where I can find quick yet detailed videos on interesting parts of ASOIAF lore

  • @jasmineg_63
    @jasmineg_6311 ай бұрын

    This is why i feel like Daemon didnt survive the fall. Theres NO WAY in hell he would've let the dragonpit and dragons be destroyed.

  • @christophergirardi8145
    @christophergirardi81457 ай бұрын

    The dragonpit was a sound idea, but Maegor and Jaehaerys main flaw was not building it onto the red keep

  • @rawbwiked269
    @rawbwiked269Күн бұрын

    Maesters definitely helped kill the dragons. In the books there's a Maester, who is scorned by the Citadel for being too into the "stranger mysteries". He claims the Maesters killed the dragons. Because they want a world without magic. The knights of the mind have a hidden agenda it seems

  • @aishas8794
    @aishas879411 ай бұрын

    free range dragons vs battery cage dragons

  • @genie1396
    @genie1396 Жыл бұрын

    Is that why Daenerys dragons drogon was bigger than his brother rhaegal and visieron as rhaegal and visieron were in chains and locked away while drogon rode free???

  • @AurianLunaLou
    @AurianLunaLou Жыл бұрын

    Watching this episode is going to be tough amazing but tough to watch the possible end to them. Now it is not 100% they are all gone as some where not confirmed to be so and there lives are very long. It wouldn’t surprise me if there was a few left and went else where due to people wanting to destroy them all… they’d more then likely be ones that where wild I would imagine although not impossible for one that was captive to thrive not being so. I’d say George has few tricks up his sleeve… so many possibilities left unknown so it can finish in multiple ways. He can still continue on from GOT and revive it with more possibilities. He himself said he loves leaving things open for interpretation he tried doing so with GOT… which I think he did.

  • @TheVultureVanityShow
    @TheVultureVanityShow6 ай бұрын

    That's why in the books Daenerys's dragons, particularly Drogon are bigger that Aegon's

  • @guille_dlc
    @guille_dlc Жыл бұрын

    Good.

  • @matthewsweeney1593
    @matthewsweeney1593 Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't put my dragons lock up they meant to have freedom.

  • @jf_kein_k8590
    @jf_kein_k85907 ай бұрын

    The Dance of Dragons might have also played a role in the Targaryens loosing power, but I could be wrong. *WINK*

  • @nguyenduchuy4506
    @nguyenduchuy45062 ай бұрын

    Is the dragon Balerion the largest dragon in Valyria..or were there other flying monsters in the early days?

  • @davidspooner4582
    @davidspooner4582 Жыл бұрын

    How did they not realise a pit is not a suitable place to keep Dragons?

  • @tashanti9738
    @tashanti97387 күн бұрын

    honestly they kill it the dragons to soon like why can’t we have them for ever 😅

  • @woof3079
    @woof30796 ай бұрын

    You can see this effect in GOT with drogon being bigger than his brothers cause he wasnt put in the tombs.

  • @flingyeah5555
    @flingyeah555510 ай бұрын

    It doesn’t matter, there weren’t enough Targaryen’s to ride 17 dragons.

  • @SantomPh

    @SantomPh

    6 ай бұрын

    There were enough dragonseeds and children with Targ blood (Rhaenna had six daughters) but not enough dragons

  • @flingyeah5555

    @flingyeah5555

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@SantomPh what's the need to give dragons to the dragonseeds other than war?

  • @zoinks2607
    @zoinks26076 ай бұрын

    It would be poetic if the same hubris and meddling that led to the creation of dragons through blood magic, also led to their extinction through the attempt to control and restrict them.

  • @sarah-jaynemcdonald2594
    @sarah-jaynemcdonald25948 ай бұрын

    Where did Danerys' eggs come from?

  • @josh23062
    @josh230623 ай бұрын

    I dont know if the Dragonpit really stunted growth that much. Vermithor and Silverwing spent much of their early life there and he was only smaller than Balerion and Vhagar. Its more to do with the fact that the layer dragons died much younger. Vhagar and Balerion were Pre-conquest, hundreds od years old when they died. Vermithor was maybe 100, Caraxes maybe 80, both dead of unnatural causes (exact ages may be wrong, but the point is they all died much younger). I do agree though that Maesters likely poisened the last ones, and the eggs. After the catastrophe that was the Dance where countless died due to dragons, the Targaryens were a proven threat, inevitable wars, but currently at their weakest. Given a chance to recover, a second Dance would come. Under Jaehaerys, the Maesters were respected and a stable monarchy under Targaryen dragons was proven to be effective. Under Viserys and Aegon and any successor, dragons were an issue. They seized their chance and put a stop to the threat

  • @Thatguywithaspoon2
    @Thatguywithaspoon22 ай бұрын

    I really don’t think it was, the downfall of Targaryen dragons was the dance of dragons only a few dragons lived afterwards, none of them large mostly because of age

  • @MorallyDubiousFrog
    @MorallyDubiousFrog Жыл бұрын

    Quick question: is there any evidence to support the dragons not growing as large in the Dragonpit? Vermithor spent most of his life in the dragonpit, but he was stated to grow exceptionally fast, and was the third largest dragon alive by 48 AC.

  • @BleedingGrafitti

    @BleedingGrafitti

    Жыл бұрын

    Vermithor was ridden a lot more frequently, which plays a big factor in their growth.

  • @jinsakai7008

    @jinsakai7008

    Жыл бұрын

    Vermithor was not kept in the dragonpit, Jaehaerys put him In the red keep

  • @harryross9377
    @harryross93776 ай бұрын

    Logically the cannabal should be smaller than Sunfyre and larger than grey ghost

  • @velex2166
    @velex2166 Жыл бұрын

    Same like goldfish. Put it in a pond and it grows huge, abuse it in a bowl and it dies or suffers for a few years then dies when in the big pond it can live for over 20 years

  • @abhishankpaul
    @abhishankpaul5 ай бұрын

    What is in Maesters' interest to destroy the Targaryens? The ancient order of scholars predates the arrival of Andals. Yet they did not pit the Andals afainst each other, but the Targaryens?

  • @KayShort21
    @KayShort21 Жыл бұрын

    Isn’t this only one in universe explanation presented? I love it, and it’s the most likely one, but it’s said by a character as a possibility

  • @Mysticleo42
    @Mysticleo42 Жыл бұрын

    Poor beasties 💔.......

  • @Knockdown-mu4pk
    @Knockdown-mu4pk Жыл бұрын

    Also there was the destruction of the dragon pit and the slaughtering of a bunch of dragons inside

  • @W47689
    @W47689 Жыл бұрын

    I agree but what I've seen is that the maesters skeemed for generations poisoning and deforming the dragons till the were essentially sickly useless creatures sad

  • @rsh4867
    @rsh48677 ай бұрын

    Wait until PETA learns about this!

  • @ByzantineCapitalManagement
    @ByzantineCapitalManagement10 ай бұрын

    Glaurung and Ancalagon laugh in the corner

  • @fallenknight3016

    @fallenknight3016

    9 ай бұрын

    toghter with greyoll kalameet sinh and placidusax

  • @lalacatio
    @lalacatio5 ай бұрын

    That was the dumbest thing to build the dragon pit in kings landing, they should've had it at dragon stone instead

  • @ICatheraTashaI
    @ICatheraTashaI7 ай бұрын

    I don't think Drogon is the last dragon, I think that somewhere there are wild dragons still, just not in the seven kingdoms.

  • @damhirsch
    @damhirsch2 ай бұрын

    if u believe that, cause we dont even know how to tame the dragon. valyrians had songs, horns and magic and thats why they had dragons. we dont see targaryens to have horns, songs (okay daemon's but thats only) or any rituals probably, cause they dont do it anymore. my theory is that valyrians needed slaves, when targaryens came to westeros they "used" them to build dragonstone. so after time, no slaves=no blood rituals =smaller dragons -> no dragons. and dany killed the witch, sacrificed the child and husband, even if unconsciously BAM dragons

  • @FlowersForAlgernon.
    @FlowersForAlgernon.8 ай бұрын

    Ahhh nothing is more satisfying to me in The Song of Ice and Fire Universe than the downfall of the House Targaryen

  • @TheFlowMind
    @TheFlowMind5 ай бұрын

    I really hope Uncle George will leave one dragon alive to reproduce. Fantasy world can be horrible but we need the dragons.

  • @garyp3644
    @garyp3644 Жыл бұрын

    Well look at drogons siblings compared to balerion. Close to same species but balerion was free range and ate anything he wanted like drogon and both were bigger than drogons half brothers

  • @jonlucchargo8867
    @jonlucchargo8867 Жыл бұрын

    I would have my dragon out and about buying up as many sheep as possible lol

  • @dean8811
    @dean8811 Жыл бұрын

    Same with anything really .. restrict it limit resources it adapts to be smaller using less

  • @julianneyvonne560
    @julianneyvonne56013 күн бұрын

    The maesters absolutely had a part in it. Sam begged the arch maester to send ravens and confirm the army of the dead for a reason. They most certainly had propaganda power and physical power. The dragons being killed by townspeople was always RIDICULOUS! One medium dragon can burn dozens but yet are easily killer by dozens? NO!!! Hell nah

  • @mckitty4907
    @mckitty49078 ай бұрын

    how on earth could they feed those things

  • @fritz5940
    @fritz5940 Жыл бұрын

    Shouldve made it bigger

  • @movieloverfan18
    @movieloverfan187 күн бұрын

    Spoilers for Dance of the Dragon................................................. .................................... ............................. .............................. There is a rumor that it was King Aegon III who ordered the Dragons poisoned. Having been traumatized as a child by dragons he spent his life afraid of them.

  • @Cameron-tc3hs
    @Cameron-tc3hs11 ай бұрын

    Dragons that were untamed should have been relocated to dragonstone and other regions where they could have been kept healthily furthermore young dragons should have been trained to prefer fish and enabled to hunt for themselves in the sea around islands where they were kept

  • @Michael-zt9ik
    @Michael-zt9ik7 ай бұрын

    Targaryens needed to keep three things active from old Valyria, the practice of blood magic, their proper care of dragons, and quite possibly the incest. There appears to be more madness as they marry outside of their family.

  • @MorallyDubiousFrog

    @MorallyDubiousFrog

    6 ай бұрын

    Many of the mad Targaryens were the product of incestuous marriages.

  • @SantomPh

    @SantomPh

    6 ай бұрын

    Aegon V tried to marry all his kids to outsiders but his last son Jahareys and his sister wanted each other and married without approval. Jahaerys II then forced his own children Aerys and Rhaelle to marry each other due to a seer's prediction. The incest itself was a form of insanity.

  • @digge2210
    @digge2210 Жыл бұрын

    Was entirely caused by themselves

  • @user-ti5cw1ug6l
    @user-ti5cw1ug6l Жыл бұрын

    I dislike theories about maesters poisoning dragons or Westerosi lords plotting to overthrow the Targaryens for decades simply because it takes the blame of the fall of the Targaryen dynasty away from them. The Targaryens fell because Aerys II did things that would be grounds for deposition in most medieval societies and Rhaegar followed suit. That's literally it.

  • @astormofwrenches5555

    @astormofwrenches5555

    7 ай бұрын

    Nope, not even close to "it." Because this is a fantasy world.

  • @Trabsol
    @Trabsol Жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: There is actually still a dragon that survived all these years. The dragon called "Cannibal" was a free dragon that left after the great war. Since he wasn't constricted ever, he technically wont die of old age either so should still be alive and maybe will appear in the final two books

  • @theninjacalledbasilisk7770
    @theninjacalledbasilisk77709 ай бұрын

    Dragons are not meant to be chained and held in captivity 🥺

  • @farright118
    @farright118 Жыл бұрын

    So the targaryens and valarions would have 100% know that. Why didn't they let the dragons roam free them? Whist a bit weak, it makes more sense for the masters to have poisoned them

  • @jasonpeters617

    @jasonpeters617

    Жыл бұрын

    Could you imagine 12-15 dragons of all sizes just freely roaming westeros?? From the north wall to dorne?? They'd eat the entire population in less than 20 years. 🤦Hellllooooo.and that's IF the Targaryens didn't want even the smallest chance a different group of people could become dragonriders? How were they to know? They knew nothing about westeros when they first got there. P.s VELARYONS, NOT "VALARIONS"🤣🤣

  • @farright118

    @farright118

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jasonpeters617 BUt why didnt the dragons of old valiria attack the locoal population? Your comment dosent make sense as why would dragon nature change? PLus you need to have the dragon rider gene which they dont have

  • @jmpabd872

    @jmpabd872

    Жыл бұрын

    Because eventually the targaryens would lose control over the dragons and a lot of wild dragons would roam doing whatever the hell they like

  • @GreaterGrievobeast55

    @GreaterGrievobeast55

    Жыл бұрын

    @@farright118 what you said about the dragon gene is probably why valerians were't all eaten. The magic to dominate them was common there. Not in westeros though. A whole ton of people would get eaten no doubt.

  • @farright118

    @farright118

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GreaterGrievobeast55 Interesting thought however the free cites where never ethnically Valerian. Only pentos and the Valerian penitular were ethnically valerian. Unless, the dragons did generally stay around the volcanos due to the blood/fire magic. So maybe they were magically controlled to stay there and even if they flew around it would still be valerians they saw for hundreds of kilometers. And so the dragons only left when they were riden by dragon riders

  • @360entertainment2
    @360entertainment29 ай бұрын

    Those stupid maesters were too smart for their own good, then again if The Mad Kid had access to a dragon Robert’s Rebellion may never have happened!

  • @AncientChi
    @AncientChi5 ай бұрын

    The dragon pit was parger then valyria

  • @TaeSunWoo
    @TaeSunWoo Жыл бұрын

    I meannnn Balerion did seems like he died pretty young for a dragon of his size and power. He was find before the Dragonpits

  • @anamariecameron7874
    @anamariecameron787411 ай бұрын

    😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

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