Rockwool or dense pack cellulose in the cavities. Perpendicular furing strips to attach the ceiling reduces bridging, layer of mass loaded vinyl, decoupling membrane, then drywall.

Def one thing I got from this video and have learned from other videos, is that those resilient channels don’t really work out that great with weight plus the screws going all the way thru. The sound clips with the rubber gasket seems to be a way better albeit more expensive solution. 🎉 good video! 🎉

@simonbaxtermusic

4 күн бұрын

Completely agree. I was trying to save ceiling height, but I’m rebuilding it with the isolation clips after all. Not worth the hassle.

For sheet rock (drywall), use a box cutter next time to make your cuts, a lot less dust than using a circular saw. Also, for sound dampening, utilize Rockwool Sound insulation. It's incredibly great for that, as well as fire rated up to 2150°F. Now for the air gaps between the rafters/drywall/etc.. use zip system flex/stretch tape and roll it on. It'll create an air barrier that's incredibly tight.

@simonbaxtermusic

18 сағат бұрын

Good to know about the box cutter, though hopefully I won’t need to do this again. 😁 I do have 2 layers of rockwool in the ceiling and more in the walls. The stretch tape would be a lot easier for air sealing. I had to look it up didn’t know what it was.

Man that is brutal my friend sorry you had to go thru that

I'm currently in the planning stages of my DIY basement home studio and your videos have so insightful. Thank you!

@simonbaxtermusic

4 күн бұрын

Glad I can help!

I remember the first time i swung a hammer

@simonbaxtermusic

Күн бұрын

Never said I had the best technique 🤣

I'm working on a project of my own which started by removing plaster over drywall from the walls. I found that a diamond wheel for an angle grinder plus an attachment that essentially turned the angle grinder into a circular saw let me do the cutting and connect a vacuum to capture the dust. (My angle grinder and attachment are made by Makita.) It made for a MUCH cleaner work environment.

@simonbaxtermusic

Күн бұрын

Wish I had that option!

Great post thank you!

@simonbaxtermusic

18 сағат бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

That’s super frustrating, I’ve always avoided contractors for reasons like that. Bailey resilient channel works reasonably well if installed correctly, but is super unforgiving (I’ve done 4 rooms with it). Though, I once had a house with 9’ ceilings in the basement, so I ran a separate set of joists on top of 8’ walls in a “room within a room” concept. It was awesome.

@simonbaxtermusic

4 күн бұрын

That is the dream build! If I had the ceiling height I definitely would have built a detached ceiling.

@carlosizurieta885

Күн бұрын

“Avoid Contractors”??? so who are you going to contract when you need plumbing? Who are you going to contract when you need a roof done or to build you a custom home? Maybe you guys are just looking at the wrong guys that are calling themselves contractors with no experience.

@h3lio5

Күн бұрын

@@carlosizurieta885 I meant specifically for soundproofing applications. It’s a super niche specialty and easy to get wrong. But, since you brought it up, for plumbing, electrical, and framing projects a homeowner can pull their own permits in my area. Code books aren’t hard to read and a lot of things you’re going to do in a house can be accomplished with a handful of tools and/or rentals (or at least that’s been my experience in many, many years of home ownership). I enjoy doing the work myself, the projects move on my timeline, and I have yet to fail an inspection for anything. Do I think I’m as good as a pro? Certainly not, but the work I do is good enough, and there are a ome things I won’t mess around with, like structural repairs since I’m not a p.eng, but yeah. Now, if you have no interest in doing any of that, by all means go find a contractor.

@simonbaxtermusic

18 сағат бұрын

@@carlosizurieta885not at all what I said. The title is “don’t trust your contractor WITH SOUNDPROOFING“. In the video I say to be careful which tasks you do vs the contractor, and if the contractor is doing anything soundproofing related check their work. I used an HVAC contractor for my studio and they were fantastic.

I've just have gone through this hasle, I let the contract know about the correct way to install resilient channels, screw sizes etc and wasn't enough, caught a lot of channels short circuiting agains the wall, 1"1/4 screws hitting the joists, resilient channels on wall upside down. I got them to fix most things but I'm sure there's still screws hitting studs somewhere, ceiling drywall that's butt up against the adjacent wall. In my case it's a legal basement suite so I decided to let it go, next time I'll do this myself because it's not worth it getting people to learn and understand the correct way of doing it, they don't care.

@simonbaxtermusic

13 сағат бұрын

It’s so disappointing explaining the right way to do things and then they do it the wrong way. There are good contractors, but just as many poor ones it seems.

That's terrible. I hope you let the contractor know that because they didn't follow your instructions you are basically redoing everything they did. Honestly they should have to redo it.

@simonbaxtermusic

4 күн бұрын

Honestly, I’m happier doing it myself than working with that contractor again. They did our whole basement and the end result is fine (apart from what I showed in this video), but trying to discuss anything with him nearly ended in an argument. He told me multiple times that I didn’t know how things work, and he was always looking for opportunities to charge more because this or that wasn’t part of the deal. And many other problems along the way.

2 layers of 5/8s overtop of Resilience Channels will not vibrate with sound, it's far too heavy. 2 layers is designed for Fire Rating, not sound dampening.

@simonbaxtermusic

Күн бұрын

That makes senses logically, but the manufacturer has detailed installation instructions and recommends using up to 2 layers of 5/8” drywall. Whether it can vibrate or not with that much weight would depend on the properties of the metal. You might be right, but I didn’t come across anything about it in the instructions. 5/8” is recommended for sound dampening because of the weight. Mass is the number 1 way to attenuate sound.

Don't call out the contractor, your the boss on the job say something during not after. I think the best to use is SONOpan , lose the metal straps . Its a good topic but you will never have true soundproof that a whole different animal . Remerber there no perferfect in construction .

@simonbaxtermusic

18 сағат бұрын

I had many conversations with the contractor and his crew throughout the job. As I mentioned in the video, they didn’t follow my instructions. As for SONOpan, they actually recommend using it with resilient channels. That product is a whole discussion on its own and I’ll be getting to that in a future video.

@simonbaxtermusic “Don’t trust your contractor with Soundproofing”????. I think the problem here is, you didn’t do your due diligence, and went with probably the cheapest quote and 100% the less of experienced drywall contractor. Just watching you pull down the first layer of drywall, and seeing how the installer went inline with the resilient channel installed of going cross direction with the Res Channel tells me these guys are not experienced with sound reduction. These guys are not contractors, They’re just workers that don’t have the concept of sound reduction. What’s the thickness of the Rockwool? Have you heard of a product called SONOpan? By the way, you went with the most basic method of sound proofing which clearly didn’t help. This is what you usually use in the typical legal dwelling basement.

You’re wasting your time.

@RyanMagicAus

20 сағат бұрын

He's still going to hear those footsteps! lol ..

@joshhidy

15 сағат бұрын

@@RyanMagicAus I know!he needs to take the floor upstairs out, decouple the subfloor, then Add 1/2 rubber membrane, then the floor. Maybe that might work