Don't Make this MISTAKE in NL Hold'em!
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Bart discusses a betting logic flaw from the caller in today's video.
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0:00 - Intro
1:20 - Preflop
2:22 - Flop
10:52 - Turn
13:42 - River
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5 of diamonds on the turn… Bart: I would be scared here Donkey: I am, I am… and so I check raise 🤦♂️
@user-ce8jh2eq1j
10 ай бұрын
Funny part is this could actually be the perfect line taken by hero. Hero gets value from all sets/lower flushes. And the $170 he loses to higher flushes is likely less than what he would normally have to pay off on the river. All by accident.
Bro called in to show off how well he played this hand incorrectly
@mikehartl8665
10 ай бұрын
🤣 🤣 🤣 😁 😁 😁
@AlexH274
10 ай бұрын
Some people call in to learn…
@TheASSSASIN
10 ай бұрын
This is a learning Hub
@JohnBrown-ss3ch
10 ай бұрын
Exact reason why he called lol. Terrible comment.
@MrJamberee
9 ай бұрын
It’s not a learning hub. It’s a poker storytelling hub.
Bart is one of those voices of reason that i would neuralink into my brain.
@georgewbushcenterforintell147
10 ай бұрын
The Bart voice can save you from making a mistake .
CALLER: yeah id flat the nuts with JJ Bart ::: ughhhhh ANYWAYS 😂
Nut flush draws in practice are NEVER folding at low stakes. It's so funny that most people are so horrendous at poker that they would literally laugh at the idea of ever folding. That's all whatever but the fact remains Ax diamonds=never, ever, ever folding in live low stakes poker.
@captzachevil
10 ай бұрын
Yeah it's hard for me to agree with the idea that hero should have put more pressure on villian on flop when I'm not convinced that any bet moves villian off their hand.
@gerontius3
10 ай бұрын
Agreed
@pot_kivach160
10 ай бұрын
@@captzachevil positive! *Third* flush draw to 3-bet into 2 opponents of which both are IP and one is already aggressor - does not fit my brains.
You gotta 3bet flop Pretty rare you actually get a chance to balance value with a huge draw, you gotta take that . Bart made a great point there. This guy is a typical Texas button clicker , no offense .
@Yourfavoritedealer
10 ай бұрын
Someone who dealt in Texas for over a year that’s the perfect way to describe them.
I lost it when he said “river is a 6, and i check” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🔊🤣🤣
@mikehartl8665
10 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@MrDaNgK
10 ай бұрын
One of the worst call ins,, guy is clueless and acting like he knows spots 😂
I need a video about pre-flop in a game like 1/3 $300 buy in when the standard open is $15-20
@cameronsmith5360
10 ай бұрын
This, please
@paulm6828
10 ай бұрын
I'd be interested in this for my local 2/3 game
@michaelehrlickman5272
10 ай бұрын
I’d prolly look at 50bb preflip charts
@box324
10 ай бұрын
I play in that setup at MGM NH. (cap is $500 but i buy in for $300). Basically what bart will tell you is that since the raise size is so big, 5x the BB, people are risking too much to win too little so your incentive to play a lot of hands goes way down. Because of this and how the nature of the game is very showdown oriented, you can play super tight and best hand people to death. It is essentially printing money if you can navigate post flop decently well. An ideal scenario in this game/structure would be you have KK (unblocking top pair) or AQ and flop is Q 7 2 and villain has something like AQ (if u have KK) or KQ (if you have AQ). You can bet big for max value because they r not folding a hand as good as AQ and you can fucking print.
@snex000
10 ай бұрын
Wait for aces. Stack donkeys. What's so hard?
Im pumped to watch Bart on HCL. I haven't had a reason to watch that stream for months now. 22 entries! RNGesus hear my prayer!
I can’t remember the last time I folded a flush, but I’m a losing player so
I knew this was gonna be a bad play, when the caller opens with, "I am $1000 effective, and have the villain covered."
@explicit90
10 ай бұрын
LOOL why?
@dandattola
10 ай бұрын
@@explicit90 effective amount is the least amount of money in the situation, so you can't be $1000 effective and be covering.
@explicit90
10 ай бұрын
@@dandattola oh haha tyty
I wonder how the math works out for all in on the flop. You could knock out the better flush draws, and a made hand (not the nuts) would have to be worried.
The cartoon thumbnails are fun af
They still do the double board bomb pots at the lodge at 1/2 (or at least they did as of February, which was my last time there). They are capped though. Technically the games are dealers choice between holdem, pineapple, or PLO but basically everyone chooses PLO.
Great discussion
As played hero has to call off. He could have figured out if he was up Vs the A high flush draw if he would have correctly raised the flop big. Only sets or the A flush draw is coming along.
@user-ce8jh2eq1j
10 ай бұрын
It is texas, seen plenty of guys call of their stacks with nothing by a naked king high flush draw.
@Dexerion
10 ай бұрын
@@user-ce8jh2eq1j Like Mr. Lee says, "Anything is possible." 😆
Good luck on Thursday Bart!
Fold QTs UTG+1 preflop. It’s the most +ev way to play the hand in that spot.
@EternalSoul222
10 ай бұрын
Even in a soft game?
Have to 3 bet the flop big to find the sets and 2 pair. The flushes will more likely fold now unless A high.
This is a great video for new poker players to listen to
i was just wondering whats the point of playing 1/3 when the open size is 15? isnt 2/5 also 15~20??
You can tell right away the caller is not a for-profit player when he misuses poker terms like “I lead the flop” (when it’s just a bet/continuation bet) and “he re-raises” (when the opponent simply raises). Then he mentions: in an earlier hand opponent raised to a similar amount and everyone folds, as if it’s pertinent info for this hand.
Just finished watching...WHAT?! Hero folded?!?! Guess he didn't have a second bullet ready.
@pot_kivach160
10 ай бұрын
he said he folded (??). And somehow miraculously he found that V had K2dd?
i don’t see the winners in the community tab?
I wouldn't get here like this" this is how Bart says you're an idiot but politely 😂😂😂
I don't like the check raise on the turn because button has a lot of nut flushes here. Not too scared of the lowjacks bet. He bet super small and it seems like a blocker bet with two pair or a set. Anyways I hate check folding the river. You guys would be shocked how many players would value bet 6,7 of diamonds or 7,8 of diamonds on the river. Those hands should fold pre flop and on the flop but most people aren't folding them on the flop. When people flop a flush draw they play it like they hit a set. If villain is bad enough to have king two of diamonds here he can definitely have smaller flushes as well. It's freaking hard to make a flush on a non paired board. if I had queen ten of diamonds I would still think I have the best hand here on the turn usually. Still I would just call for pot control because I know there's a decent chance I'm beat. Low jack would usually bet bigger with the nut flush on the turn. Also button would usually raise the turn with the nut flush. the button calling 80 dollars is a terrible slow play because he's letting sets and two pairs see a river for insanely cheap. Also if someone has a smaller flush they are almost always calling. only great players can lay down a small flush here. It's obvious he has a flush so the trap is pretty dumb. one of the villains could easily have ace jack with the ace of diamonds as well. If I was hero I would think I most likely have the best hand on the turn but I would still just call. Getting shoved on after check raising would be terrible. Also there's may instances when a lot of you would just call with queen ten of diamonds and get to showdown. Villain would flip over a smaller flush and you guys would ask yourselves "why didn't I check raise the turn?" Smaller flushes are never folding. Or the board would pair after you only called 80 dollars and you would ask yourselves "why didn't I check raise? He bet so small on the turn and I beat nothing now. I let him get there" The check raise on the turn is still bad but it's not as atrocious as you guys are making it out to be. You guys are calling this dude a donkey like you've never made a bigger mistake at the table. I bet many of you have hero called someone with ace high when he had a full house but you didn't call bart to talk about it. Villain is bad enough to have king two of diamonds here so he could definitely have 6,7 of diamonds. Anyways hero made a mistake but I just think it's funny how many of you break even players are talking like your poker pros.
Poker is still alive !!
6:33 _BTN is definitely tight player_ 18:00 _V said he had K2d_
Could we even be sure if Villains folds to a 3b! On the flop if he's in there with a hand like K2s to begin with? I would surmise if he's playing that hand in the first place, there is no way he's folding a flush draw on the flop.
@gregkelton81
10 ай бұрын
Far more likely K2s was a lie.
@JohnSmith-nx7zj
10 ай бұрын
You’ve got 42% equity against K2s so it’s hardly a disaster if he calls.
@user-ce8jh2eq1j
10 ай бұрын
It is when the turn comes a diamond! @@JohnSmith-nx7zj
@pot_kivach160
10 ай бұрын
@@JohnSmith-nx7zj Is that what gto said? It's not problem running into a stronger hand?? Never heard of that b4.
@pot_kivach160
10 ай бұрын
LJ jams! For sure. He must've had a set or 2 pairs the least. Otherwise he wouldn't continued betting on turn card. Obviously, LJ needed more action on flop That's why he C bet turn even the board was too dangerous.
How do people write down all this stuff during the hand ,? My brain needs to focus on the hand I'm playing it can't imagine taking notes at the same time .
@BlueChipPoker
5 ай бұрын
Write it down after
I could also see the button with AJ with Ace of diamonds and making a play on the river.
@JohnSmith-nx7zj
10 ай бұрын
Yeah I could imagine players getting to the river with AdJx
Oh man, the turn play simply makes me cry
@user-ce8jh2eq1j
10 ай бұрын
Funny part is this could actually be the perfect line taken by hero. Hero gets value from all sets/lower flushes. And the $170 he loses to higher flushes is likely less than what he would normally have to pay off on the river. All by accident.
This is very interesting as played but yes why not 3bet flop, looks easier for sure and probably also +ev
If H 3bets the flop...K2 folds the K2, or just goes call/call... letting us set our own price? AdXd doesn't allow that, but why relinquish the betting lead? Saying H lost the minimum (arguably) is too, too results oriented IMO...V could just as easily have Ad, Xoff? Then the River fold is an unmitigated disaster... again IMO. Playing a lower flush against a second nut, one always wants to set the price...
That ad read will haunt my dreams
I ply my draws too aggressively and have to get it in
Flop the world with close to bottom of range from EP. LJ raise OTF should be concerning, BTN flat is just weird, alarm bells are ringing. When the front door flush comes in OTT, raising is literally the worst option possible, lol. Flop, guy raises IP to the PFR, BTN flats, hero flats. When LJ continues AND BTN calls, we can never raise. Would we raise with AKdd/AQdd/ATdd? Are we raising JJ, 99, 33? Mostly no. We’re either slow playing the nuts OR pot controlling/hoping to fill up OTR with a vulnerable made hand. If the Ad is on the board this is a much easier call. But villain can have all AdXd, I just don’t think he’s betting worse than the K high flush for value here… players at this level aren’t flatting 2bets OTF + OTT + betting river IP with whatever random suited connectors are left that are worse flushes. They sure as hell aren’t betting sets with this action. you’re blocking the straight draws and the worse flush draws that BTN could be continuing with, and you’re raising turn for… value? As if you already have a straight flush, lol.
This call in show is all about asking aboutnhow you played your hands and getting feedback from Bart. All you gatekeepers in poker make this game not fun anymore. Scare off all the recreational players all the time. Real smart tactics lol
I really don't understand bart here. Nut flush draw should not be folding flop. From their shoes, it is too likely one opponent has a dominated draw and it could very well be hero 3betting (just like you're suggesting he do here). Even if one opp folds there's still plenty of dead money in the pot when up against a made hand, just need to be up against dominated draw some very small percentage of the time to make it the correct play to call with ace high flush draw. Disagree strongly with 3betting flop for that reason. Furthermore, we don't want to fold out lower suited connector flush draws that we have dominated on the flop (reverse implied odds for opponent). Hero 3 betting flop just seems absolutely terrible to me.
9:01 _for those reasons (drive naked nut flush out) it's a 3-bet_ I don't get it?? 3-bet to drive btn out just to get jammed by a set or 2 pairs (LJ)? Then what?
@caseyw9864
6 ай бұрын
Snap it off - You are slightly behind sets, ahead of 2 pairs, ahead of Adjx, and flipping vs raw Adx
@pot_kivach160
6 ай бұрын
@@caseyw9864 are you joking? Ahead of AdJ?? ahead of 2 pairs?
You have to remember that this is Texas poker though and it's 1/2. I wouldn't have been surprised if he had said the guy had small diamonds.
@Yourfavoritedealer
10 ай бұрын
100% Texas is it’s own animal a flush is a flush to your average drooler.
By checking, you may now have convinced the villain that Hero does NOT have a flush, however (thinking you'd have bet that). So this in essence then undermines Bart's logic at the end.
@jacobbirkenfeld9261
10 ай бұрын
Way overthinking yourself at 1-3 here. Even if villain is good enough to hand read opponents, at this level 99.9% of opponents will not be value betting sets with possible flushes out there.
@JohnSmith-nx7zj
10 ай бұрын
@@jacobbirkenfeld9261I’m sure as hell not value betting a set on the river as button. Especially not 33. What would you be trying to get called by? Hero’s flop and turn play looks like he’s either got diamonds or a better set.
Bruh. You got 15 outs to make your hand on the flop, but two opponents in there. Blow the sand out of your mangina and 3B flop huge.
@pot_kivach160
10 ай бұрын
and then LJ jams! You found yourself like a fish out of water! (can't stay there - can't get back into waters).
@1vailchris
10 ай бұрын
@@pot_kivach160 Great. Let LJ shove. We want BTN to fold. LJ shoves, hero calls. Hero scoops. Next hand. Do you even think about your comments before you make them, or are you really this dumb?
"I haven't seen this player value bet the river in the last hour." Bro how many rivers do you think you even see in an hour of live poker rofl.
Tempting to raise flop to drive out the better draws.
@trias418
10 ай бұрын
not gonna happen, there's basically no king high flush draws and ace high flush draw isn't folding
That raise on the turn…
At local casino I would always call, you can find people playing exactly like that wit JQ/ KJ and greatly overestimating the value of their hands lol
Failing to 3-bet the flop feels like a mistake though I’m not convinced the nut flush draw folds anyway. But the check-raise turn is just awful.
@MrJamberee
9 ай бұрын
So is showing everybody at the table that he folded a big hand, and all of the info that goes with how he played it. And he says he did it to try to get info on the villain’s hand. Smh
I dont know what Hero did on Flop, but if it was me, I'd be 3 betting to $400 on Flop.
@TheTree1
10 ай бұрын
Yeah $350 at least
@pot_kivach160
10 ай бұрын
why?
@christopherdowning7776
10 ай бұрын
To drive out naked flush draws… and for protection.
@pot_kivach160
10 ай бұрын
@@christopherdowning7776 1. Then LJ jams! What are you going to do then? 2. protection of what?
Good fold! I got smoked online by a straight flush where this guy was actually a very loose player too. Im pretty good at hand reading, but could not forsee this guy calling a 4bet with 76s after limping early position... AKs beat by a 76s straight flush all in on the river lmao 🤣
When people ask me what I had after the hand, even much later, I lie probably 90% of the time. I make them think I was super strong if they seem like a nice person, and make them think I bluffed them with air if not. Maybe the villain liked the caller.
Everything is bigger in Texas. Even the donkeys.
K2 versus AK is a money maker
This guy has open invitation to my game
Bart : "You flopped the world" then a few minutes later "Maybe a flush isn't even good here". ??? If you're afraid of Ax of hearts then stop looking at your hand as a "50% to the river" hand.
Nice mug are you a bird hunter?
Nobody is folding the nut flush draw in 1-3 no matter how many raises there are
Fascinating hand & great analysis by Bart. But first I must get my pet peeve out of the way. Why do so many people say "re-raise" constantly, when they just mean raise?? Drives me nuts! With that out of the way, I think Bart pointed out all the mistakes in this hand. Which is to say hero played all 3 streets wrong. One thing I did find curious though, Bart suggested that 3 betting the flop would get the nut flush draw to fold. I'd love to hear peoples thoughts on that. I do think it might have worked here since villain had K2dd. But does button fold AXdd to a 3 bet by hero? P.S. I think hero would usually lose, but as played he must call the river.
@AT-bw4cm
10 ай бұрын
Hero said the villain was tight. A tight player should be folding a naked flush draw to large 3bet. By tight, I think hero meant villain was passive. Hero should be opening preflop larger if they are playing this wide and passive and deep. It's a dream table. BTN over calling preflop with K2s and LJ min raising flop and then bet/folds on a scary turn. Calling river against a passive player if burning money.
@EllieBanks333
10 ай бұрын
@@AT-bw4cm The caller did originally claim the button was tight, but I think we know that is not true. As to the calling the river part, keep in mind I said "as played". And that I also said caller played all 3 streets wrong.
@ajback2917
10 ай бұрын
@@EllieBanks333Texas tight is probably a more apt description.
@1vailchris
10 ай бұрын
In theory, yes, if you bet large enough, you'll fold out the nut flush draws. But in practice, some folks just can't fold it. On flop, I was thinking about Ad3d, bottom pair with the nut flush draw, as a hand some opponents would just never fold no matter what. If V was telling the truth about having K2, I doubt he would have folded AX. In a single raised pot, I agree with Bart that hero messed this up by net 3B'ing huge on flop, to drive the better draws out.
“He told me later….” 🙄
"I didn't expect him to call my raise with anything worse..." so why raise
What is this hand? Lmfao, fold river nahhhhhh
" i mean it's Texas"..
This one was funny, "so I check...LJ bets and I check-raise" Bart: "WHYYY???" XD The river just killed me, I think you gotta call there but would be so much easier if you just called down without raising.
What a weird-ass hand. Betting raising and then folding?
Why not lead the turn instead of being putting yourself in this spot.
People say reraise. It's only a raise..
Bart dont say chinsey raise lol
Throws his cards face up when folding to try to get information. Yikes. He GAVE everybody info that he will fold a big hand. Then he believes the guy when he said he had K2 of diamonds.
First thing villain is probably lying about his hand. Unless he shows you can't analyze anything!
The amount of people who call into this show that aren’t embarrassed with the way they played their hand is astounding.. I would have hesitation to call in about 99% of the hands I play, as I’d think Bart would point out some egregious mistake I made on some street.
No way he had K 2 diamonds. Nit lay down
Just a raise not reraise
Just an absolute disaster of a hand.
I guarantee the caller didn't consider 3 betting the flop. He is almost certainly a losing player.
Bro played this as badly as possible
No chance im folding
Flat is good. Villian is reppin flush draw and sets. You gotta commit to your play which is reppin AA, KK , JJ, flush draw and sets...all in on the river to put Villan in the blender with a good hand hoping he calls. You want Villian to call right?
I'm calling. Could have 10 7 diamonds also.
Jam flop.
Worse fold I’ve ever seen
Of everything wrong with this hand I think the worst is the misuse of the term ‘reraise’. I can never understand why so many poker players use it synonymously with ‘raise’. Then again, poker players decided to refer to a board with all the same suit as ‘monotone’ instead of ‘monochrome’ so why should it be surprising?
I actually don't think either of these villains slow play the nuts here in a three way pot.
New Rule - You can't use the word "Correct" more than 3 times in one video!
Bart having to watch 10 ads for one hand review is a bit much, makes me not want to watch anymore
Hey Bart. Love the content. Small suggestion that really doesn't matter but it does...use some imagery of heros with other races...we are all in the streets.
@speakinfaxonly21
10 ай бұрын
What? Lmao
@let_it_rock1
10 ай бұрын
Wow
@beatsbyLSD
10 ай бұрын
LMFAO
@AT-bw4cm
10 ай бұрын
Bart, don't forget artwork of drag queens too. We have to be inclusive.
@caseynolan4929
10 ай бұрын
I always liked dogs playing poker.
Just hopping in to let you know i havent watched a vid since you started posting these goofy AI generated thunbnails
@EllieBanks333
10 ай бұрын
You will be missed.
@skelthouser2730
10 ай бұрын
Uh...bye!