We definitely need a law against crooked software companies that want our private information.

@SabastianMoran

Жыл бұрын

Dennis D. It's not just the software companies. A lot of companies including Tech companies try to control the customers that buy their products. I have an LG OLED TV that has "voice assist" built into the remote control. But I can't use that feature, because I won't let LG spy on my TV usage. Sooo.. I paid for a feature that I can't use. Since the U.S. has the best Congress that money can buy. Nothing will be done about these unfair business practices... by the government any way.😢😠

@DSPZulu

Жыл бұрын

Nothing about the MS account does anything about the telemetry. They are separate. I use an MS account (because it was required to get the Win 11 beta through Insider) and all it has done is benefit me. I dont have to ever worry about needing to buy Windows again unless i want to add another machine to my pool. My 3 keys can be tied to any machines i ike. I completely rebuilt my platform. All i had to do was de-auth the now decomissioned machine. I use this MS account for precisley nothing else (i dont use WIndows as a daiy driver).

@aqulex84

Жыл бұрын

Hmm wait. You have a KZread account so Google has your data. Guess what. Google uses much more of the information of their customers from phones, KZread meta and all other accounts.

@starflow90210

Жыл бұрын

Haha that would ruin american economy, there won't be anyone left except the crooked banks that lure you into beeing credit-slaves

@arklight1670

Жыл бұрын

@@aqulex84 may I add to this, when ever you click a thumbs up on a video that goes to them, then you get sent like wise videos. All software companies are about data collection. Out of Microsoft, apple and Google, I would say Google is the worst. With mobile phones and you have location enabled you may aswell be a chipped pet.

As a former tech and somebody that has installed Windows at least a million times by now, it never ceases to amaze me how often Microshaft changes subtle things about the installation process. Usually the change just makes it a pain for techs and PC support folk. It literally got to the point I decided to switch my career to carpentry. I see things haven't changed in the PC industry. Thanks for helping keep everyone's head above water Jay. Cheers.

@wowdogeful

Жыл бұрын

"Computers suck, I'm going to be a carpenter instead" absolute chad move

@vibrolax

Жыл бұрын

Back in the 90's my boss and I (both software+electrical engineers) used to just look at each other and say "Let's quit and go build decks!". We hung in for another 20 years and retired.

@froheschwanz

Жыл бұрын

“Nerds keep fuckin shit up for no reason, I’m gonna go into the trades.” Chadly

@unblemished_

Жыл бұрын

Hearing that, I’m happy to be a dev that has more benefits when using Linux over Windows, without having these kind of headaches

@hubertnnn

Жыл бұрын

Its actually sad how IT world keeps changing for the worse. In early 2000s I used to help people fix their PCs as a side job. But over time it became more and more complicated with effects being worse and worse. I fixed one part in a PC that just went out of warranty, and a week later another thing breaks. Things that took 1 hour, required 2 days of work, and no longer guaranteed to solve problems. The same happens to software. Its becoming worse and worse over time, requiring more resources and giving less features. At some point I decided that fixing it just makes no more sense.

_"They just won't get the data they're hoping _*_you paid to give them."_* That was so appropriately put. 👍🍻

@lokelaufeyson9931

7 ай бұрын

its a great way to make money, make the customer pay for the data collection. Its a win-loose?!

I getting ready to start my first build, man I've done so much research I was actually over loaded with info so much so I couldn't make up my mind about components even though I was pretty sure what kind of build I wanted. Then low and behold I found YOU. Thank the lord. I very much like the way you explain things straight and to the point, not to much flowering or explanations more complex than the actual procedure, you know what I mean. Anyway, because of that I now have all my components sorted out, especially the GPU which was the hardest thing to pick, ready to make "informed" purchases on them and with your follow ups/ after build set up I should be up and running soon. Thanks again, man, you really helped me out. Oh and yes I will follow this up once I get up and running. Sorry for the long winded thank you.

Can't do this often enough! It's mind boggling that you have to repeatedly tell a company that you don't want to be stalked. And they just ignore it completely and try to cripple your legitimate attempts harder and harder. Definitely like.

Man, hiding that MS account requirement behind the "search" process is a new low for Microsoft.

@JamieKitchens6

Жыл бұрын

They just keep shooting for the dirt.

@Elder-Sage

Жыл бұрын

It's not that they are hiding behind search. But one of search's "new and improved" function, is the ability to search within the MS account. Yeah don't get me started on that. But any who, when search is trying to index the computer and then it tries to index the MS account. When that fails, it triggers a prompt for the user to sign in. I always disable search's ability to return web results and never get the login request again.

@Synthematix

Жыл бұрын

This and a hundred other reasons is why i bought a macintosh computer, no more of these stupid problems

@RyTrapp0

Жыл бұрын

@@Elder-Sage ...so it isn't actually a conspiracy, but there's a legitimate reason even if people don't like that reason? lol

@johanjotun1647

Жыл бұрын

@@RyTrapp0 what is the reason, i wish i knew computers, i just want to ditch the ps4 and feel secure against agressive advertising and being spied on i'm prone to saying wildly inapropriate shit by modern standards.

Thank you Jay. Completely with you on the whole not wanting to log in to MS account for standalone machine. One trick I have found for working out which process is the naughty one is to sort by CPU usage in Task Manager and then just run the mouse back and forth over the window you want to find. Handling all the WM_MOUSEMOVE window messages will trigger enough CPU usage to be noticeable.

Thanks for this video. SO many reset guides for resale videos and none of them talk about this.

It's appalling how difficult this has to be

@timsbird1971

5 ай бұрын

Just use an account. Simple

@COMPUTER.SCIENCE.

4 ай бұрын

​@@timsbird1971 yup, just use a dummy acc then remove it once done installing! 😂

As an grunt work IT guy who does lots of windows imaging, this makes me happy that other people are spreading the word. In my own funny experience I also found that if you get to the login page on accident and it wont let you back out but you cant seem to remember any fancy command prompt lines just type in "a" into the username and password for the login and it will move you to creating a local account. Not sure if it works for all win 11 versions but its worth a shot.

@kyoudaiken

Жыл бұрын

Yep! Works like a charme. Or you use DISM to copy the setup files yourself, bcdboot to make it bootable and then copy your custom unattend xml file into \Windows\Panther and be done. :)

@darkfungang

Жыл бұрын

Noooo i've been using this for years dont tell anyone about this one microsoft will find out and patch it!!!

@kyoudaiken

Жыл бұрын

Do you happen to know how I COMPLETELY disable automatic driver updates via an unattended xml file?

@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU

Жыл бұрын

I Yarred the garbage and it didnt ask me any of that BS.. I see no reason using official stuff when the point is not to give them your data or whatever. Also it wasnt for me, I am not foolish enough to beta-test this trash.

@johnmiller9931

Жыл бұрын

You can get through the out-of-box experience with OOBE\BypassNRO, then you can toggle the reminders under Settings > System > Notifications > [Uncheck] "Suggest ways I can finish setting up my device to get the most out of Windows." This is the prompt that Jay couldn't recreate reliably. Uncheck the other boxes, but that's another story.

The initial bypass trick still works as of 7/3/23. I havent connected to the internet for updates yet but I just finished my new build and installed W11 and this still works so far. Thanks for protecting the people Jay!!

Valuable and helpful ! We should have seen your screen when you pressed Ctrl-Shift-Esc and that "Search" process but, yes, this is valuable and helpful video !

Note for anyone working on a laptop: If the Shift + F10 combo doesn't work, and your laptop keyboard has a Fn button, try holding that down -- sometimes that F10 button is mapped by default as a media key (like mute, increase/decrease volume, etc.) and you need to hold Fn to get the Function Row to work. -- Your friendly neighborhood IT tech

@TheOriginalFaxon

Жыл бұрын

This is also the case on the logitech wireless keyboard + touchpad product line. My original one and my current gen model both have this "feature"

@qvcybe

Жыл бұрын

that is a odd key for f10 to be bound to also what is the point of the fn key? asking as i have one that is used for my key bored lights

@Sonicstillpoint83

Жыл бұрын

Without my knowledge, my mother bought one of those $200 HP stream pieces of trash. I had to grab an old when does 11 iso where are the old workarounds were still viable in order to get around the Microsoft account thing. Shift + F 10 didn’t even give me the command prompt window before I used the old iso. I even tried, remapping the accessibility button to the command prompt, at which point it pretended that there were no other windows open, and would never mark any of them as active. I even tried using the Narrator screen reader, which will normally allow you to navigate to things unseen, yeah that didn’t work either. So I know they are patching out these work-arounds as fast as they can. Another work-around that is worth tryin: Enter any random email address looking username into the username field along with a password of your choosing, then once in the system, you have the option to switch to a local account and this is where you will need your fake email address and password. So far Microsoft doesn’t require you to verify the email address that you give them.

@Sonicstillpoint83

Жыл бұрын

@@qvcybe As a lot of laptops, these days are used as consumption devices, a lot of the keys are given multimedia functions; It is similar to the ability of a signing the JKL; keys to a number pad. If the other functionality is not directly written on the keyboard, you might pull up a manual, since every manufacturer will be different.

@qvcybe

Жыл бұрын

@@Sonicstillpoint83 o i have a desktop i just was seeing as my keyboard has a fn key on it witch are used to just change the lights on my keyboard or a few other things with the lights XD

I'm sure someone else may have already commented this, but give Rufus a try to put the windows iso onto USB. There's a box to check that creates the iso to skip Microsoft account creation.

Thanks J just used this after biod headaches on a new 7800 x3d this was a major headache you are a lifesaver 👍👍

when you mount windows image with rufus it directly gives you the option to tick and bypass required login and disable tracking, very useful

@erroneouscode

11 ай бұрын

It doesn't go far enough. Better to use NTlite and make your own custom .ISO removing all the nonsense.

One thing I've noticed is that when you sign in the normal way, by just putting in your Microsoft account, the desktop, documents, and pictures folders all default to the users/%USER%/OneDrive folder instead of the standard users/%USER% directory. Running it the way JTC shows us defaults to everything in the standard folder, which I like.

@misterjeffa2128

Жыл бұрын

Also when you do sign in with a Microsoft account from the start the User folder will not use your entire name if its too long. mine will be Jeffr with a MS account. why it does that i dont know as my name isnt too long (and yes my microsoft account has the name filled in correctly). if that bothers you local account is the way to go as renaming your user folder breaks everything.

@Paultimate7

11 ай бұрын

@@misterjeffa2128 Yeah this pissess me off. I just reinstalled 11 and forgot to do all this and ill probbaly fresh install again soon and do this. Its all so annoying. They need a good antritrust case again to remind them of their place.

@lokelaufeyson9931

7 ай бұрын

i can see why they do it that way, they sync and login your onedrive account when you log in to your account and if they create your user folder in onedrive you will share the data with ms and you will be able to enjoy the "cloud based" login system as well.. Its easy to login to another computer if your files is in the cloud. I dont like to store my personal files in a cloud.. dont want to store anything but useless crap in the cloud to be fair.. If you dont like cloud stuff avoid windows 11 for a while, they enabled the cloud backup by default and they "forgot" to give the user the choice to disable the cloud backup service. Its no way to turn off cloud backups at the moment but ms promise that they "will fix the issue over time".. its up for debate if they hide something or not i guess..

@lokelaufeyson9931

6 ай бұрын

@@sunnyinnv yes, you should be able to create a local account next to the old one and move everything to that account and remove the old online account. I dont know if they have sabotaged this but you should be able to create a local account if you unplut your internet (if you cant do it while you are online) one drive should be allowed to uninstall, its a add-on program of sort.. Look in the app details and you should find a uninstall option. If you have the time and feel that you can handle some new things you can try and use a linux live usb and play around with it, it wont change your windows system. Its a live test system that is the same as the installed version. That is the best way to get out of the MS hole but its a step so dont stress. Think what you need and if you need windows or not before you do the step. Microsoft wont stop re-installing apps you remove and they will restore settings you change when they update the system and they do it a lot. So its a choice you have to make, do you want to tweak windows for as long as you own the computer or are you ready to learn a new system that respect your privacy and your right to own the product you buy. There is situations where you need to use windows for work or similar and in those cases you can install a dual boot on the computer. You select the system you need at boot and they are isolated systems.. You can have the best of both worlds, both windows and linux on the same computer. Windows for work and linux for private stuff/free time.. I use dual boot at home and if i need to use something from my windows system i open file explorer and copy it from the windows ssd into the other system (to avoid bluescreen and other bugs avoid copy files into a windows file system from a external operating system, the partion size will be strange and can cause a crash). If i need to move something from my not windows system i use a cheap usb thumb drive.. or my nas storage

@LilAssMonkey

5 ай бұрын

This is literally the main reason to do all this. That OneDrive folder is a NIGHTMARE and I’ve bricked pcs just trying to change the name of that damn folder. PLEASE anybody who’s building a new pc, follow this guide! You do not want that one drive folder anywhere near your PC

This method is fine but the newest version of Rufus will modify the iso to automatically bypass it and make a local account. It will also automatically opt you out of any data collection. All you have to do is select a Windows 10 or 11 iso, and it will prompt you and ask if you want to do any of those things. For Windows 11 you can also modify to remove the check for supported processors and tpm.

@GoofieNewfie

Жыл бұрын

This is the way

@GFS695

Жыл бұрын

Pretty awesome, thanks

@chrisprouse3734

10 ай бұрын

@@digpan. 3.22.2009

@colt5189

7 күн бұрын

I'm going to use Rufus to install Windows 11 on unsupported hardware. Should be fine I guess since I have i7 quad core CPU, discrete graphics, 16GB RAM, and an SSD drive.

If you're at the point of learning how to bypass logins and having to tweak tons of settings or make significant configuration changes, it would be very beneficial to explore other operating systems.

@TheBcoolGuy

11 ай бұрын

If they'd become better competition, then sure. Linux isn't there yet in terms of software or API support. It's damning itself to be eternally niche.

@firesidewithsumgai9932

11 ай бұрын

@TheBcoolGuy This entrenchment environment really sucks and the cold reality is that unless users become significantly more educated, our options will be mac or windows forever. You definitely nailed it though. There is so little mainstream support to provide resources for alternatives. While the flexibility and control in a Linux environment is absolutely amazing, finding software can be like searching for the holy grail and god help you if you have never lived in cli, but I would recommend people exploring anyway. Who knows, maybe if enough people start investigating alternatives, we may one day escape the matrix.

@hasp24

11 ай бұрын

If you're a pc gamer, there aren't much alternatives to Windows.

@MrShadeGaming

11 ай бұрын

@@TheBcoolGuy after i have switched to linux for around 1.5-2 years ago? WHAT THE FLIP ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?! is it just those trashy multiplayer games with kernel level "anti-cheat" that is triggering this response? cause i have only run into like 1 or two apps that i used to use on windows that doesn't work for me at all (that doesn't have alternatives) so imma need some fucking examples for this insanity + software companies aren't really going to move unless the userbase moves first but people are creating a stupid loop with but but all my software is on windows so i don't want to move!! and then doesn't even try to use alterantives... also the software will come to linux / mac / other os if we the users move the problem is stupid people that keeps using spyware just cause they are too damn fucking lazy to try and learn something new. (and no i didn't really ever use linux before 2ish years ago i only looked at it 1 or 2 times seeing i needed it for some server stuff but other than that never used it full time for desktop before) (from what i have experienced linux doesn't seem to have the missing "API" / software support people keep saying it has this isn't 2007 anymore people...) (not to say that there isn't things missing from linux in the software department there of course are things missing but it's fewer than what people seem to think)

@MrShadeGaming

11 ай бұрын

@@hasp24 Really? other than trashy multiplayer games with that insane kernel level "anti-cheat" what games aren't running just fine on linux? (of course those with insane drm but but most of the time those aren't even worth playing anyway so you aren't missing anything as a pc gamer) cause i haven't gamed on windows for a while now and i haven't felt like i'm missing anything? so really why are you lying? (either lying or haven't used linux at all)

Thanks, I'm getting ready to do a new computer. Its been 10 years since my last build and things have changed a lot.

As for taking part in both PC builds and OS editing I really appreciate the additional details and tips given in both aspects here on JTC - as being in support of the end user whether beginners or advanced levels alike....good job and always looking forward to the future solutions you guys give so well - especially in today's tech with the newer obstacles to tackle along the way.

@Sonicstillpoint83

Жыл бұрын

It’s the reason that we never stop learning, especially in the technology field.

@nafeel4539

Жыл бұрын

What a nice comment

@ev-ezaye3580

Жыл бұрын

@@Sonicstillpoint83 💯 💯 💯

That one Microsoft worker: Why don't we just stop being so forceful? Micorsoft: You're fired.

@Digikidthevoiceofreason

Жыл бұрын

You’re *

@BLKBRDSR71

Жыл бұрын

@@Digikidthevoiceofreason Fixed it, thanks.

Thank you, Jay! I didn't know it was possible to bypass this so this video is a huge help.

For the record, the Ctrl+Alt+Del -> Task Manager method you used near the end was still working on Windows 10 last time I needed it a month or so ago.

I love these Videos. Building a PC and installing a OS is something you don`t do every day. It`s nice that you keep it up for us

Loving the content Jay. So much tech content leans toward those who already know quite a lot. I find this type of content useful, and I have quite a bit of experience - the basic content an always fill knowledge gaps.

Thanks for your video. This answers the dilemma and the conundrum I’ve been experiencing with Microsoft Account log in procedure that's unwarranted.

Just done a clean install of win 11 shift + F10 worked a charm .Thank you for the info

You can also install group policy editor through command prompt and not allow Microsoft accounts to be created/log in. Thanks for the information Jay, very helpful

@DocOrtmeyer

10 ай бұрын

Lol you can do that through group policy ? 😂

Thanks, Jay. Always appreciate these types of videos and your bias for helping out the community you've built. 👍

Good work, I have only not been able to watch to the end. The constant movement of the camera killed it for me.

Hiya I have just joined your party and want to say that I have watched several of your vidoes and totally appreciate you work. In directly you have helped me several time when I had myself stuck. Thanks

I just did this for the second time this month, I came to the realization that its pretty funny how people complain about Microsoft wanting your info but you don't hear the same fuss being made over Apple's OS. I guess the difference is Microsoft asks you (begs you) and Apple just does it, and if you don't like it then, "tough luck don't use our products".

@JJFlores197

Жыл бұрын

Apple doesn't exactly force you to use an Apple ID. They do try their best to encourage you to do so, but you can easily opt out of using an Apple ID. Of course, w/o one, a lot of Apple services aren't available, but you can otherwise still use the computer.

@XGD5layer

11 ай бұрын

Microsoft would get sued because they don't make their own systems

@FakeSchrodingersCat

5 ай бұрын

@@JJFlores197 What do you mean doesn't force you? Sure you can set it up without entering an id but it locks you out of half the OS without one, you can't even get OS updates until you enter one or get anything off the app store.

@JJFlores197

5 ай бұрын

@@FakeSchrodingersCat In Windows 11, if you don't setup an online account, you can't continue. macOS, last I checked did let you setup your new Mac without signing into an Apple ID although they heavily encourage you to do it. Microsoft is hellbent on forcing you to use an online account just to setup your PC when there is no valid reason to do so.

@FakeSchrodingersCat

5 ай бұрын

@@JJFlores197 But there are ways around it as this video attempts to show. And once you have bypassed it Windows does not lock out parts of it's functionality. But that is irrelevant. I am not claiming that Microsoft is good what I object to is your statement that Apple isn't forcing you to use an Apple ID, when the choice is a false one if you want to actually use the product.

Jay, you may have to consider a dedicated capture machine that will record everything coming out of a computer for these types of videos. Being able to have a "b-roll" capture machine going may be beneficial for those hard to get scenarios. That in and of itself could make a fun video.

IT pro here. I set up a WDS/MDT vm server on my laptop to do W11 imaging at home on my personal computers and computers I resell. A properly configured task sequence ensures that when you image a pc with w11, you bypass the network connection and Microsoft account sign-in requirements. You just get to the login screen, in my case Administrator with a short password. I’m never required to give anything to Microsoft or connect to the web before getting to the desktop.

@JJFlores197

Жыл бұрын

Yep. You're not wrong, but the vast majority of people who need to watch these types of videos are not IT pros. WDS/MDT are alien words to non-IT pros.

The second prompt after updates is almost certainly Cortana, hence closing the search task.

For my case, I use rufus to make the usb iso so you can select to remove the prompt for Microsoft account and I use shutup10 to remove the limited number of process used by Microsoft to monitor what you do. Would be interesting to show the rufus installation method

@AmericaWhatsup

Жыл бұрын

Not sure why Jay is not using the Rufus Microsoft ISO methos. Does all this and more. And is not a hacked ISO.

@surpriserom

Жыл бұрын

@@AmericaWhatsupit does it with the Microsoft iso, it use sysprep technique to configure the image with an answer file as if it was deployed in a company, and you don't want to use windows account in a company. nothing to see with a hacked iso, because you will still need a key to enable your version.

There's also a way to bypass this in the registry editor. Editing it via the registry may be a more permanent solution than just killing the process each time it prompts you for it. While it may only last until the next update, it would still probably be a bit longer.

@fulvor778

Жыл бұрын

Mind sharing the Regedit? Keep in mind to others, Regedits are risky, and all precautions should be kept when doing them.

@jilbertb

Жыл бұрын

​@@fulvor778Chicken! That's why you make a backup and hack the reg to your hearts content!

@07wrxtr1

6 ай бұрын

This worked for about 2 months and then I got the stupid ask to “upgrade” from 10 to 11 Microsoft is like an ex girlfriend that will never go away!

jay, ethernet actually makes the bypass of the login easier. unplugging the ethernet cable during the sign in process usually lets me bypass the account creation step

*Fianlly got windows 11 from ikeyzone* I like some of the transitions, but sometimes they're a bit too much and are seemingly random. Since we use these persistent elements that transition across pages to indicate some kind of relationship between the previous and the next states, some of your transitions confuse me because I can't immediately see what the relationship is. For example 2:23 of the selectable tiles (which weren't selected) transition into being two switches... does that mean anything? are they related in some way? I see this as random and a bad use of the design language. However, at 1:14 I like the transition from switches to the ticks on a paper, that makes sense to me. Epic presentation tho

If you use one of the free tools for creating a bootable USB, like Rufus (no affiliation), the program have a special menu for bypassing some of this annoyances, like all the privacy toggle buttons, and perhaps also the MS account requirement. It helps a bit!

@HomeBudgetComputing

6 ай бұрын

This is the method I use. It works great and and is SO much easier.

@edgarvillegas-zc4hm

4 ай бұрын

I have check the bypassing of internet connection but it still asks. Odd

@HomeBudgetComputing

4 ай бұрын

@@edgarvillegas-zc4hm It will still ask, but give you the option "I don't have internet" and then "Continue with limited experience", then you can create the local account.

That screen will pop up every now and then randomly, you can switch it off, if you hit the windows key + i to bring up the windows settings window, go to system and notifications, there should be a slider for "Offer suggestions on how I can set up my device" and "Get tips and suggestions when I use windows." Switch both of these sliders off. That will stop that screen from popping up to try twist your arm into a Microsoft account sign in again, recommend doing that before doing updates and check it every now and then, some updates switch it back on. This also applies to Windows 10, get loads of clients asking how to get rid of that screen.

What if you sign into a Microsoft Account in Skype, Microsoft Store, Office 365, Xbox apps, or any other MS services? You literally can't watch Netflix in HDR on a PC without the HEVC extensions from the MS Store, and that needs a MS account. I noticed recently it auto populates those MS accounts in the Windows Sign-in settings to make it very easy to accidentally sign in.

@HKIHNDKNSI

3 ай бұрын

​@dreaper5813I have unbuntu linux on a laptop and it makes me want to snap the laptop like a flip phone

This was right on time. Thanks Jay! ❤

I work as an it tech. Another trick I recently learned is if you connect to internet during setup (either ethernet or wifi), when it gets to the "sign into your Microsoft account" screen, you just type the letter 'a' in both the email and p/W field (probably works with other words etc too but I haven't tried). It'll say that something went wrong and prompt for a local account. 🙂

@SomeRandomHuman717

Жыл бұрын

IIRC there are a few email addresses that can be entered that have been so abused that Setup just sighs and says OK you win, local account it is.

@Smuddpie

10 ай бұрын

That worked! Thank you. All of this was too far over my normie head.

@bigolbearthejammydodger6527

5 ай бұрын

I can't believe that's still a thing, It was a local(single machine) account admin backdoor back in windows NT days, and was one of the simplest methods to bypass security for NT, 2000 and XP networks. ADMIN, ADMIN also used to work. While these back doors COULD be disabled with server groups and permissions - they almost always weren't. I remember 'hacking' my school network using exactly that trick, back in the 90's - at the challenge of our IT guy you understand, I was running my own pc repair business at 16 and he wanted some input.

You guys are lifesavers. Thank you so much for all your hard work.

@BNHardwarereviews

Жыл бұрын

You dont need to do all that work... just type Admin in the email, and Admin again in the password and then you can make a offline account.

Jay, thank you for making this video and sharing. I wish this video was a week to 2 weeks older. I had an issue with my new build where I didn't have a network available when completing my install, and I finally found a tutorial to use the exact oobe that you did. After an hour or 2 of searching, finding the solution, this command saved me more headache at 3am.

Thanks. This saved my patunny. I am a single A+ tech, and am learning new stuff every day. I sell my gaming builds after about 4 months and when i re-install windows before i sell one, for a new user, every time i get a box: enter your microsoft account.

Idk if you tried but if you type “test” as the email and “test” as the password, it bypasses the Microsoft login and you can create a local account. Works every time with windows 11 for me. Feel like it’s easier.

Good stuff Jay! Correct me if I'm wrong, MSFT seems to hold/pause on specific security updates (Cumulative xxxx for one), that will only be triggered AFTER MS Account sign in. If the user account is left at *default* user account, I have not seen these updates trigger. I have also noticed that location icon (target win10-arrow win11) shows only when web browser requests location. Unless you sign in with your MS id, this will happen much more, even while pc is idle. The most likely reason is verification (for updates/time zone/location) data that is collected. YES, even if you turn off "troubleshooting logs". IT's in EULA "as required", under data collection.

@lokelaufeyson9931

7 ай бұрын

i have never got the target icon in my windows 10 but i have denied it updates for a while now.. still works fine and no security issues. The security is in my head and in my usage of the OS.. I know that i have to click every ad in twitter and on internet and its required to install every software that is offered through ads or internet sites.. Its 100% safe..

My MSI pre built (yeah, I know) came pre installed with Win11 - and I did find other videos with a workaround - I would not have even known about this without you Jay, so thank you for your continued effort to keep big borther and creepy Gates out of our lives!

@nunya3163

Жыл бұрын

Would love to hear about the work arounds, for new machines, pre-installed.

Building a new pc tonight and was stuck here for a few minutes, thank you kind sir 🙏

try this, I have done more than 30 times as IT support. another way to skip MS account login during set: 1: when asked to sign-in to MS account >> type "admin" or "Admin" 2: password >> type anything 3: you will get error saying "Opps something went wrong...." done, now you can create offline account.

Last time I did this on Windows 11 I used an Ethernet cable, which skips the WiFi setup screen, then before it gets to setting up the Microsoft account, I pulled the ethernet cable. I think you can even hit the back arrow when it asks for the Microsoft account. When that step doesn't have active internet it will allow you to make a local account. You might also be able to do so if you turn of the WiFi antenna with the laptop keyboard.

@gabood

Жыл бұрын

smartz.

@arklight1670

Жыл бұрын

Easier way is just to disconnect from from Internet before you install Windows. And job done. Once you install and login every three days or so Windows asks you to finish setting up. Remind me later. I have not even used a CD key.

@goshu7009

Жыл бұрын

@@arklight1670 or just use a script to remove bloatware, and additionally - it makes your system ,,legal" :P

@arklight1670

Жыл бұрын

@@goshu7009 ok, and where do you get this script from?

@goshu7009

Жыл бұрын

@@arklight1670 it dont let me poste links here. Type remove bloatware one tool for all. Its made by Christitus. Take it from the link below the video.

I use a program called Terabyte which basically clones the SSD into a file. So when I first set up my new Windows 11, I made a clone of the drive so if I do need to re-install windows I do not have to go through all this rig morale and just have a clean version of Windows 11 that loads straight to desktop.I expect there are other pieces of software that do the same thing, but I find it a super easy process. But thank you Jay/ You have helped me and so many people with this video. I hope it doesn't get taken down!

Thanks again, Jay. Couldn't remember how to do this, so the video is a save!

Jay!!!! Stop saving me so much time! Thank you I’m about to finish up a build for a buddy

Literally needed this last night. It's like you read my mind.

I got a new laptop today, I remembered about this video and came back to watch it again. Thanks again for the useful tip 🙌

There's actually a good reason you would not want to bypass the Microsoft Account. At this point in the setup process is when BitLocker gets engaged and the theory of operation is that the recovery key gets backed up to your Microsoft Account in case the machine should become unbootable and you need to access your data. If you do choose to bypass the Microsoft Account requirement, I would double check your C Drive to see if BitLocker is on and turn it off you feel like you need to.

@escapetherace1943

11 ай бұрын

lol bitlocker 🤣🤣

I've installed Windows dozens of times across a bunch of systems and different Windows versions. I feel like the install process is never the same twice, even when reinstalling windows in a freshly wiped system that has the exact same hardware it did when I ran the first install. I almost always install from disks and without internet as well so it isn't like the version of installer I am using is often changing.

@ObakuZenCenter

Жыл бұрын

Almost nobody uses disks anymore

@petersack5074

11 ай бұрын

@@ObakuZenCenter .....newer, is NOT GUARANTEED, TO BE ANY ' better '. Still using Win 7 Pro and Ultimate. NO problemos.....and yes, from CD or bootable USB with multiple windows, other ISO distributions on it. Can install anything i want to......

@lokelaufeyson9931

7 ай бұрын

i install windows with the erased and deleted "windows 1809" image.. the infamous one that was removed within 12 hours after its release. Its nice to avoid 3000 updates and get one system that is 90% finished.. i can always use my old usb memory that have one of the first versions if i want a super clean system ;) The "1809" iso is the one where it was impossible to skip the pin code creation in the default iso. One guy fixed it by edit a folder setting and i can skip pin code and account creation on it.. I think the backstory around that iso is that they released it and 20% or so of the users got bluescreen so they removed the iso and installed the updates one by one instead.. and they have kept on installing the updates one by one since.. MS have tried to make me overwrite the old usb memory several times, that usb is rare now. Its the one version where you can remove all bloat.. before you update. I think its a 1805 usb memory.

The harder they try to force me to use a MS account the more I'm going to resist. Up to and including dumping Windows altogether.

@darek4488

11 ай бұрын

Same

@lokelaufeyson9931

7 ай бұрын

you do you, i changed my main OS from windows to linux/arch since it was impossible for me to trust my own computer when windows was installed on it. It was a personal choice but it was no hike in central park, it took 2-3 months to learn linux/arch good enough to use it effective. So be prepared to learn something new and change how you work in some cases like when you update. In windows you open updates and click a button and confirm with a "i promise i wont destroy this computer" button.. the moral button as i call it.. and your 8 year old kid uninstall office or something.. windows security.... is great In linux you type a command in terminal and press "confirm" and then type your password and it will update and do everything.. you can watch a stream or shower or whatever while it work.. No reboot requirement but its recommended if its a core update. The only "bug" i have got is that the browser crash when i leave it open and update in the background and when the update is finished and i open a new tab for example it wont work but i only need to restart the browser and its all good again.

@_Nobody_Special

7 ай бұрын

@@lokelaufeyson9931 Not a bad idea if it works for you. I’ve used a handful or two of Linux distros over the years, as well as running my own Linux based server at home for near a decade now, so I’m not a complete stranger to it (although probably a little rusty by now). But there are still some things it just doesn’t do very well. Gaming for example, the only real reason I still have a Windows machine in my household, but also hardware support can be patchy with more exotic setups. That said I’m about a hair’s breadth from telling Bill Gates to GFHS for good.

I only use local accounts, no online BS. Thanks for videos like these, keep em coming :D

The Rufus options to bypass all these things worked for me when creating my boot drive.

To get command prompt to pop up on S-Mode enabled machines you need to boot into Recovery Environment and boot into "disable driver signature enforcement" so you can Shift+F10

@Sonicstillpoint83

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, sir. Even after going into the registry to get rid of S mode, I couldn’t all tab to my opened command, prompt, no matter what workaround I did to get it. I never thought of disabling driver enforcement.

I'm surprised Microsoft hasn't nuked the local account feature entirely considering how hard they made it.

What's really interesting about the windows installer is that it actually has the registry and cmd like a real windows installation, it would be really nice if they had a utility to I stall windows from your existing system for dualboot etc

Bought a used laptop for my mom and ran a factory reset. Method 2 worked exactly as shown, thanks!

I do the bypass command for every computer I need to get up and running that has Windows 11. Glad to see it get the recognition it deserves.

@Mr.N0B0DY.

Жыл бұрын

create install media with latest version of rufus.

@lukewt456

Жыл бұрын

@@Mr.N0B0DY. If it is a computer without an existing install, the way you suggested would be preferred. However, most of the computers I deal with do already have an existing install. Having to wait a bigger chunk of time just to install the fix is impractical.

You guys make this way harder than it needs to be. Ever since Win 10, all you have to do is type “cancel” as the email address and password. It says “oops, there was an error” and you can create a local account in the next step.

@TheRealJLucas

Жыл бұрын

Actually.. you can type anything. LITERALLY anything and get an error. :)

@Andy-jz1zw

Жыл бұрын

Hey you're right! I typed the word "anything" and it worked

@TheRealJLucas

Жыл бұрын

@@Andy-jz1zw 😛

@TheRealJLucas

Жыл бұрын

@@Andy-jz1zw Not just the word ANYTHING, but what-ever-you-want, like anything ;)

Love it! This is why I keep coming back to this channel!

I'm on windows 10 and they have added this thing where when I go to the option to lock my pc by clicking on my name in the start menu, above it is a message telling me to sign into a Microsoft account and the only option to get rid of it is remind me later, but I don't want it there ever, so is there a way to get rid of it?

These videos are great, even to someone like myself who has build experience. I used this to bypass Microsoft's nonsense today on a PC I was building for a friend.

@ev-ezaye3580

Жыл бұрын

Ikr! MS' absurdities!!!

Nice to know, for the case when I have to help some friend going with windows 11. In my case, windows 10 is the last one I will use natively, I'm already decided to go with mint linux.

Just tried the Shift-F10 method to end the network connection flow that makes you connect to the internet and it worked! This was on 3/4/2023

Thank you for videos like this they are needed.

System integrators can also have a tool from microsoft to make modified installers that can auto install stuff and change a whoooole lot of stuff. We use it at work too. Its a heap of crap but it kinda works.

@colmustard5683

Жыл бұрын

Yea it is. Oh, you mean the installer. I thought you were talking about Win11 in general.

Love your videos Jay. I work in IT and i'm always provisioning devices at work. Usually i'll do the Shift + F3 to get the command prompt to see what version of windows (Home, pro, etc). I would use Cmd+Shift+F3 to bypass the OOBE screen. It should take you straight to the desktop as the built in admin account.

Thanks Jay as always !! I work in IT and the "I don't have internet button" is there every time, but that could because I am installing 11pro not home.

Interesting and informative. Thanks for sharing these valuable tips.

The only good thing about MS account, for me, is that when you buy a OEM Key, that key get tagged with the MS account, so you can change hardware as much as you want, but you need to log into the same account for install

@soonerproud

Жыл бұрын

I had to do that on my last install. After you're activated, go to accounts and switch to using a local account and sign out. You'll also want to got to Settings > Accounts > Email & accounts after creating your local account and remove your Microsoft account from Windows. If you don't remove the account, you'll still be partially signed in. It's a really sneaky trick of Microsoft to keep you partially signed in while using your local account. Edit: When reinstalling Windows, don't delete your old account, install over it. Windows will automatically reactivate you without signing in as long as you don't make too big of hardware changes. You can delete the old account after getting set up through Settings > System > Storage > Cleanup recomendations.

One thing I’ve found is that after you connect to the internet, you select domain for work instead of personal use and it will let you set up a local account. I’ve done that with all of the new windows 11 laptops I’ve had to deploy for clients and works like a charm 👍🏼

@Sonicstillpoint83

Жыл бұрын

That’s great if you are installing windows 11 professional, but if you are installing windows 11 home, there’s naturally no option to join a domain so it will not work. This cat and mouse game will only make all of us better technicians in the long run.

@ev-ezaye3580

Жыл бұрын

@@Sonicstillpoint83 👍 ikr

I can attest that the second method still works. Just built a PC for a friend and we couldn’t install the drivers for the wifi card without getting to windows, so we used this method and it worked perfectly

Thank you for this video. I don't understand how microsoft doesn't see the fact that some people do tend to run Windows on VMs (both consumers and other companies) and they'd most certainly prefer a local account instead of a Microsoft account for these VMs

@gersonl

Жыл бұрын

Have you read the terms of agreement? It says that every user interaction in Windows is recorded and sent to Microsoft. If people use a VPN or dynamic IP it's harder to track it. But if a system is logged in, it's way easier.

I would love a tutorial on how to stop MS Edge from randomly reinstalling itself and putting a shortcut on my desktop. Also, I'm pretty sure they sabotage chrome in some way that makes it eat a ton of storage because I constantly have to delete hundred of gigs of bloat from the temp folder. The market is so ripe for a complete windows replacement -.-

@papadave9061

Жыл бұрын

Linux.🙂

@NoFrameHell

Жыл бұрын

Don't update windows, period.

@richardcranium5839

Жыл бұрын

"smode" windows 10 and 11 is a stripped down version on many oem laptops that wont allow any other default browsers and search engines. her computer never said it was smode but i found out by finding the original packaging.

@richardcranium5839

Жыл бұрын

also only apps from the microsoft store are guaranteed to work. standard mozilla firefox or google chrome have serious hiccups

@DocOrtmeyer

10 ай бұрын

@@papadave9061gaming sucks on it. And it’s unnecessarily complicated to begin with. And how do I get hardware temps ?

Something I've been wanting to know, hopefully the community can give me some feedback. How is this any different than using our smart phones? Every Android phone you have to sign into Google to use anything. Apple, the Apple store/account. It's a HUGE deal that this is microsoft, why? IMO it's WAY more of a prying/security risk having something with a GPS chip and non removable battery, camera and mic that has all your information. Not to mention Social media apps etc. It all boils down to the fact that WE are the product.

4:30... not continuing to boot off USB... set the boot order in the BIOS how you want to have it first, then just use the one-time override to boot from your thumb drive. It also will prevent the issue when the system hangs with "no boot device found" with a USB device attached.

When I got my laptop it came with Windows 11 on it but I just exported all of the drivers with a Powershell command. That one exports all of them. I did it before going to Windows 10 since I know the drivers are compatible between the two. I didn't install all of them, just the ones that were missing in device manager. They all worked. I now have them on a USB stick for the next time I need them. By then they may be old but will still work to get my touchpad working again.

Microsoft keeps popping up ads like a virus scammer: They want me to "upgrade" to new outlook instead of the windows 10 mail client so when i don't even have mail open, it will once a month or so randomly pop open Outlook mail in white mode with an ad at the top email slot the same size and shape as an email, and it you click on it thinking it's an email, it will open Edge ignoring your default Firefox browser into the add website. That is virus level scammer crap Microsoft should face criminal charges for this behavior I think.

@HKIHNDKNSI

3 ай бұрын

reminds me of the cod ads on xbox

Unfortunately, skipping the Microsoft login isn't enough if you don't want your data to be sold to random 3rd party servers.

Thank you!! Had to use this work around Because, For some reason the network page would not show me any networks. Even with Lan connected on a new build

Nice one this saves me a lot of problems. I used to put myself in on a microsoft account in a customers computer then create a new user make them admin , reboot and delete my account.

@JJFlores197

4 ай бұрын

If you build PCs often or install Windows regularly on PCs, Look into setting up an answer file. You can automate Windows installs which makes it easier and quicker to setup a bunch of PCs at once. It takes some experimenting and trial and error, but once you get it dialed in right, it can save a lot of time.

I respect the time and effort you put into finding these workarounds, but I for one was done with having to put up with all that nonsense after every other update and decided to phase out windows altogether. My venture into using linux for everyday type of computer activities is going pretty well, by far not as cumbersome as some people lead me to believe at first. I imagine it's a combination of linux' improvements in the UX department and my understanding of how computers work that has evolved over time. Do note, I call myself an IT systems engineer... Also, don't let anyone ever tell you that gaming on linux is a no-go, because I've yet to encounter a pc game that doesn't run just as smooth or even smoother on linux (I prefer debian-based distros for gaming, though can't tell exactly why). Apps like Lutris and PlayOnLinux are improving this experience even more, by the day!

There is another way around this, that has been working for me for all Windows 11 editions, including 23H2, but I'm in Germany and I noticed suble differences in the OOBE, so maybe this won't work in the US. Here we can go to the login screen and input "microsoft" as a user, followed by anything as a password (a single character will suffice). The installer will then tell you that something didn't work, and after a click on "continue" it'll ask for the local user name. This method also works with the sometime-after-update-please-login-screen. Plus side: Windows then thinks you completed the wizard and won't ask again (until some time in the future after some other updates) This is way easier to understand for people not familiar with the command promt, so you might want to try that.

The second method worked perfectly for me (5:56) thank you very much.

The thing that sucks is as shady as MS has become, I really wouldn't put it past them to do something you'd expect from Apple and make it a requirement to even use the OS eventually. Of course, hackers will find a way, but it's just absolute bs they expect people to pay 100$+ for something they have no control over. If it ever gets to the point where it's literally impossible to use windows without a ms account or it's extremely inconvenient, I'm just full timing Linux even with its problems in gaming.

@colmustard5683

Жыл бұрын

Windows as a Service with a subscription.

@thatoneannoyingtornadosire8755

Жыл бұрын

Same here. I've never even touched Linux but with MS going the route that they are, I've been researching Linux a lot lately and I'm gearing up to swap to it when I get a new pc.

@cosmic_cupcake

Жыл бұрын

All the shady stuff that MS has been doing with windows 11 has already pushed me over the edge. I went straight to installing kubuntu on to my new build. Not regretting it so far.

@VektrumSimulacrum

Жыл бұрын

@@thatoneannoyingtornadosire8755 The jump to linux is far less painful than it used to be. Kubuntu, Mint, Pop os, Zorin all try to make it an easier switch. I took a linux laptop on a month long trip overseas as my only device as a practical real world test and it went great.

@Currawong

11 ай бұрын

You don't have to have an Apple account to use an Apple device. On iOS devices, it just leaves an annoying red spot in the Settings if you aren't logged into one.

I believe if you use Rufus to create the bootable USB, it has a way of bypassing the internet screen and the M$ login when you make the bootable USB.

@komkwam

Жыл бұрын

If you make an iso with Rufus there is an option for an local account, i don't know for W11 but for W10 it is an option. a colleague of my showed it to me,

@jonathanwright1507

Жыл бұрын

Thats just what I did for installing Win11 on my Z270X motherboard which works fine with W11 on a i5-6400 CPU, had all the updates download, you just have to push it with a fresh instal.

@thatoneannoyingtornadosire8755

Жыл бұрын

Rufus coming in clutch yet again

@wq5lb

Жыл бұрын

@@komkwam I did that a week ago, even with rufus creating a local account, W11 still requires you to connect to the internet and create an account, i bypassed it using the BYPASSNRO trick, when it finished the install, Windows had two local accounts, one created during the Windows installation process and the one created by rufus.

@myronachtman4304

Жыл бұрын

What is Rufus?

I bought a new PC a few weeks ago and didn't think much of giving it a microsoft account. Now I get a Windows notification anytime I get a new email. I don't have any email applications open.

Love these yearly videos where you bypass windows requirements lol!

Jay with those glasses upgraded to the Educational DAD of TECH