Greg from Science Studio just pretty much exactly this video recently and he got the exact same result I got in this video. Check out his video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kZ2sqNZwmJvMkc4.html

@SoundwaveZabuza

4 жыл бұрын

Hi, I'm thinking about getting this case. If I remove the 2 SSD mounts from the mesh above the PSU, can I mount fans on there instead? Would you think it would effect the dynamic airflow it already has? Thank you!

@jamiehartshorne7396

4 жыл бұрын

Do u think a rad would work in the front?

@billybobbob3003

4 жыл бұрын

front fans should help keep dust from getting sucked in by the pcie slots as much.

@matthewshaun9100

3 жыл бұрын

Is it fine if i put intake fans on h510 case Just curios

@billybobbob3003

3 жыл бұрын

why didnt u remove the dust filters from the bottom and side panels? lol course temps will improve some.

rgb fans increase airflow 110% this is a fact.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

Haha!! That was the mistake I made.

@MyFireworkDemos

5 жыл бұрын

I added 2 front fans just to have more RGB light in the case. ;) If you are going to have a fish tank, it might as well be pretty.

@darmwood10

5 жыл бұрын

Rgb fans can cure the rarest of diseases also.

@bronzeagehuman

5 жыл бұрын

Depends. Blue leds make your rig cooler but red on the other hand increases performance at the cost of BURNING temps. Green is more eco-friendly and, as for rainbow, don't try it at home.

@Kenji1685

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, the light from the LEDs excite the molecules in the air to make them move faster. 😆

Of course this video pops up in my recommended the day after I order those nice $20 a piece fans....

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry to hear that, but at least they will give you positive airflow. That will help with dust build up. It also depends on how hot your system runs. Some people with very hot systems have said that it does help them. So hopefully it's not wasted. If you have time, please let me know what kind of results you get.

@AKABattousai

4 жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuff Yeah thx for the video haha. Same issue here as the other guy. I bought a 510i nzxt case yesterday by mistake cuz the box looked the same as the nzxt 500 elite case I was looking at on the box. And I had the impression that the elite case was mesh on the front. But watching other vids it's temptered glass. And I just purchased 3x Arctic bionix F140's last night. At least with the 510i Case I got. I can easily take it into my work. Since I'm in a Fabrication warehouse for building large Industial work trucks. If the Airflow doesn't fix my Temps coming off my 5700XT 110° C. Then I will jerry rig mine as well. Messing with the front of that case.

@mikimarchi

3 жыл бұрын

I have same case and my gpu temp went down from 80 to 70

@AKABattousai

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikimarchi did it go down after adding fans?

@Abdo-lx3ee

3 жыл бұрын

@@AKABattousai for me ye

I think the one thing you are missing here is that you are using a system that barely pulls more than 200W (if that, even), which is not enough to show a significant thermal difference with this case and setup (and quite frankly, I'm not sure if its enough to challenge ANY case anywhere). For the CPU, you have additional assistance with the Cryorig H7's fan for airflow through the tower, but since you are likely hitting 60-70W of consumption at most, you aren't even remotely saturating the heat pipes capability for heat transfer. For the GPU, in both scenarios the twin axial cooler has plenty of access to fresh, cool air. In the initial setup without front fans, the negative pressure of the case is pulling in cool air from the rear, empty PCIe covers. When fans are added to the front, the air is still being given to the GPU in a significant enough fashion for the temps to remain constant. In both scenarios, the top and rear fan are able to remove hot air from the GPU, and once again, due to the significant size of the GPU heatsink, you are nowhere near saturating the heat pipes. Adding front fans to the H500 (or really, any case on the market) is entirely dependent on the level of heat generated within the case and the saturation of the cooling components within. In fact, with your system you could likely apply duct tape to the entirety of the front intake, bottom intake, and remove the rear fan entirely and see little to no change in temperatures of your components. The natural intake from the PCIe slots would be more than enough for the GPU, and the CPU fan plus the top fan would provide more than enough capability to exhaust the hot air from within the case. If, however, you were to change the load generation within the case to a 250W+ GPU such as an AMD Vega card or GTX 1080, and overclock your CPU to pulling 120W+, you would then begin to see the thermal limits of the case's compact nature. Without a doubt, an individual running a GTX1080/1080Ti plus something like an i5-8600k/9600k overclocked to 5.0Ghz would absolutely notice a significant change in temperatures with front intake fans present. For me personally, I preferred the compact nature and aesthetics of the H500i, so I chose it for my i9-9900k and 1080Ti FTW3 Hybrid build. I have a 280mm AIO on the front (NZXT Kraken X62), and the hybrid card uses a 120mm AIO which is placed on the rear. I still retain the 120mm fan on top for exhaust and VRM cooling. The airflow, thanks to the 140mm fans on the front, is more than enough to keep all of my components cool. For testing purposes, I decided to shut off the front fans entirely and run a GPU only load (since my CPU temps are tied to the front radiator, it wouldn't be fair for me to run a CPU load with this test as I'd have no cooling performance from the radiator) at 100%. With front fans at 40% (my normal range for gaming/etc, which is silent), my GPU temps stayed put at 55C. Once I shut off the front fans, temps climbed to a whopping 68C (very high for a hybrid card) due to lack of fresh air being pulled into the case to assist the radiator in the back. Your testing equipment is simply not enough to challenge the natural case airflow in any meaningful manner.

@victorboesen3837

5 жыл бұрын

Pyromonkey83 Do you think it'd be worth it purchasing a couple of front intake fans if I have an i5-9600k and an rtx 2070(single fan)??

@KevBacon6

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this, he had me thinking. Just got my h500 today. My old case has 7 total fans to cool my 8700k at 4.9 and GTX 1080. Putting the 8700k in the h500 with a 2080 ti and was worried about the smaller case with 5 fans being able to keep my 8700k as cool as the old case. Wanted to avoid water cooling the cpu but it would be so easy with this case.

@sovietry4944

5 жыл бұрын

@@victorboesen3837 if you're using air cooling you absolutely should buy at least a single high static pressure fan (so it gets good airflow even through the restricted front intake) my pc would overheat frequently (also an i5 9600k rtx2070 system) but when i added 2 front intake fans that problem quickly went away

@victorboesen3837

5 жыл бұрын

coolboybryan303 thank you for the reply! I've moved the back exhaust fan to the front bottom and it has improved my gpu temps a lot but the CPU temps has risen. However it was the gpu that was the hottest while gamin and the CPU doesn't go above 60 while rendering and exporting videos. But yes I will purchase a couple intake fans, so I have two exhaust fans and two intakes.

@sovietry4944

5 жыл бұрын

@@victorboesen3837 if you're having trouble with gpu temps you might want to orient your fans to the back of the case and have them both blow out air to the outside of the case, this way air will be pulled in through the little perforated holes in the pcie slots, it helps a lot with cooling, its how nzxt designed it

I like to turn my PC case into a strip club by adding plenty of RGB fans.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

That is the main advantage of adding RGB fans. :P

@dreamshooter90

4 жыл бұрын

Do s strut!

@whyers4782

3 жыл бұрын

Gpu sag bracket as pole

@athmaid

3 ай бұрын

Do you have a little stripper dancing on the GPU anti sag bracket too?

Sorry if I missed you mentioning it in the video, but I was just wondering if you manually set the CPU/GPU/Exhaust fans to a fixed rpm for this test? Because if you didn’t, then they would ramp up as you removed your front fans, throwing off your results.

@newjackvideo

5 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY. The methodolgy in this "test" is critically flawed. The fans will adjust rpm to keep temp constant, whether there are 2 or 4. The 4 fans may be running at lower rpm to reach the same temp as 2 at higher rpm. Then stacking two pairs of fans directly on top of each other? What? I appreciate the effort that went into making this video, but it's far from useful data.

@vareq1672

5 жыл бұрын

@@newjackvideo So what would you do? I currently have a H500 with XFX RX580, i5-6600k and Cryorig H5 CPU cooler. Should I invest in front intake fans? As well as replace the stock ones? And what would be the best option for intake/exhaust with my setup?

@ErrorCDIV

5 жыл бұрын

@@vareq1672 why not? Fans are cheap.

@justinmaloney7108

5 жыл бұрын

I remember I told people its unnecessary to put a bunch of fucking fans in a case and they ROASTED ME lol. now I stand justified.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry about the delayed response. I didn't see the notification for this comment. I did set all the fans to a set RPM for the tests (no temperature curve). I must've forgotten to mention it in the video. :)

awesome video idea! though it wouldve been much better if u used charts to show the temps instead of just writing them... keep up the great work man :D

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

That sounds great. Thanks for the good feedback. I will definitely do that in future.

@saltedllama2759

4 жыл бұрын

The charts offer no more information than the text. They only look prettier for dummies who don't like to read.

@angelm3670

4 жыл бұрын

Archibald Doogan holy shit ur a degenerate lmfao

I love this for the opinion and help you provided, but most for the fact that it was fun as hell to watch you jerryrig all these fans xD

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

I'm glad to hear that. :D I really enjoyed making that ridiculous thing.

Great video, there are many cases with this kind of design where there is very little ventilation at the front for fans to draw in air. I'm not surprised adding fans made little to no difference on this unit, so thanks for testing it out. Something important for people to consider in their next case purchase.

I've been studying thermals for cases, heatsinks and fans - armed with the knowledge I ran some tests. Some interesting conclusions presented themselves: - Heatsinks which have thin fins (most these days) dissipate heat faster by having a fan 'pull' air through them, as opposed to most CPU coolers which have thin fins and a fan that 'pushes' air through. - Exhausting air from a case is far superior to an active intake of air (via an intake fan). - Exhausting only is superior to having an exhaust fan and an intake fan. The intake fan creates turbulence which moves warm air around before eventually being exhausted. Without the turbulence natural convection does a much better job of supplying cool air without moving warm air around. - When there is an exhaust fan present (1 or many), using any intake fans will have a negative impact on the flow of air. - The exhaust fan must be able to evacuate air freely. If there is a blockage or a lack of ventilation (front covers with little ventilation for instance), the exhaust fan will recycle the warm air it's trying to exhaust. I recently exhausted air from a case into a poorly ventilated front cover. This created a negative pressure case and a positive pressure area between the case and the front cover, the case being negative simply pulled the positive pressure air back into the case before it could escape through the ventilation of the cover. This looped warm air and the air got warmer and warmer. The same is true for cases pushed against a wall with a back exhaust fan, the positive pressure area is between the case and the wall. Conclusion - Always exhaust from a case, never intake (nature does it better) and make sure the warm air can escape before it can be drawn back into a negative pressure case (like the back fan being butted up against a wall and the GPU drawing it back in). Exhaust via the top or even the front of the case if air can escape quickly that way (mesh front for instance).

@ThePCForever

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't having an exhaust-only setup mean more dust though? Also do you have any links to these results? Would be really interesting to read.

@ruciferu93

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePCForever Sorry for my bad english yes it is maybe about 20-30% dustier i'll do vacuum and brush the case every 3 to 4month, im using this case for years once tried to make it positive pressure by adding 2 140mm front fans(silent wings 3) and i didn't like it just not worth it more noise more power used, going back to negative pressure now with 2 120mm silent wings 4 dead silent 👍 .

What if you increase the size of the 2 stock exhaust fans? (and not install the intakes).

@cyano3d

4 жыл бұрын

The exhaust supports 120 and 140. So u can't really see a big difference

I lost it on the cardboard funnel part. Congratulations, I never knew a tech video would make me laugh this much :D

Yep static pressure fan was a good idea, i've tried these on this case as well.

I like how you have 4 accents and it just confuses me but amazes me also

I like your experiment and find it really helpful. I used my old coolermaster case's fans as intakes because they were just laying around and i didnt want negative pressure in the case (i live in a really dusty environment) however, my question is: while having intake fans does not affect the temperatures, will it help with making the fans run slower which equals a quieter setup? 4 slow fans instead of 2 high ones.

@psychoalert1823

4 жыл бұрын

Obviously

@oimazzo2537

4 жыл бұрын

Surprisingly enough when i tris to add a couple of front fan to my h500 i GoT consistently worse thermals. Guess that thing is designed around negative pressure

Great video! I had the same idea for a video, but just a simple test with intake fans / without intake fans style. Cheers from Brazil ;D

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

That's a good idea. I think still doing the video will be great, we can then compare notes. :D

great video m8. could you clarify what fan configuration recommend? top/intake and rear/exhaust? or both out? thanks !! suscribed

I recently bought the case and noticed that after a few hours of gaming the case was hot to the touch. Cpu and gpu temps where fine but the case was on fire. After installing 2 140mm fans in the front panel I noticed an immediate difference in heat from the case. I dont believe stress testing for 15 minutes is an accurate real world use representation and would highly recommend front panel fans

You earned a sub! Great job, very very thorough

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

That's awesome news. Welcome to the channel. :D

Thanks for this video. I was really curious if it was even worth it because the front intake opening was so small.

Great video, honestly, if you think about it, this kind of shows how many assumptions we have when building PCs.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

I know right? I was very surprised.

Came for the fans, stayed for the sexy cardboard b-roll.

This is phenomenal work - the research, editing and presentation are all top notch. Thanks for reducing my fan noise level.

i love watching these old vids and see how hes progressed so well into the newer vids. def one of my fav youtubers nowadays

I saw this exact info on Gamer's Nexus H500 case review and it was another selling point to not have to buy extra intake fans and have a louder setup. Negative pressure and convection does all the work.

@anonanonymous6793

5 жыл бұрын

But how about dust build up vs positive pressure?

@oudomsambatchorn851

5 жыл бұрын

Anon Anonymous I want to know about that too

@oudomsambatchorn851

5 жыл бұрын

Anon Anonymous please reply if u got answers

@Sha.ll0w

5 жыл бұрын

Anon Anonymous Unfortunately negative air pressure will cause more dust to build up since apparently it would cause it to pull air from places there isn’t dust filters. So ideally if your worried about dust you’d take off the top and back fan and place both at the front.

@oudomsambatchorn851

5 жыл бұрын

shalol hmm I just found out that the h500 is different than the H7/400 series with the intake mesh in the front and I wonder why it’s cheaper thank for answers btw

Just watched this after installing 2 intake fans at the front of my H510 RIP...

@Masta_E

4 жыл бұрын

same

@houdaplanet9955

4 жыл бұрын

@@Masta_E so is that real they didn't make diff in temps after you installed em both?

@Masta_E

4 жыл бұрын

@@houdaplanet9955 I didn't notice any difference. Lol

@houdaplanet9955

4 жыл бұрын

@@Masta_E rip lol should have ordered a cpu cooler instead of 30$ x2 fans from noctua 1 week ago totally it's good for cooling tho?

@Masta_E

4 жыл бұрын

@@houdaplanet9955 I have a good cpu cooler, just the intake fans did't change the temps lol.

Awesome vídeo, great idea, love your job

A very good video buddy, you just earned a subscriber. Greetings from Indonesia.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

That's awesome. Welcome to the channel. :D Thank you for the nice comment.

Very helpful, I like it. Actually helped me with my decision.

You done a great job and tried your best to follow scientific method so closely.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I appreciate the positive feedback.

Funny and instructive video. I'll see what else you posted :)

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you enjoyed it, thanks for checking out more videos. :D

Thank you for the informative video. I'm wondering if most of the air intake happens through the small vent at the bottom of the case, and would be interesting to know what happens when the side vents are taped-off. If you still have the rig, it would be great if you could try that out.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

That's a great suggestion thank you. I don't have access to the PC at the moment but I will try that out when I do again. So that we can see where the most fresh air is coming from.

I know this video is ancient news, but these types of cases are still largely popular. If additional fans at the front make no difference what about replacing the stock exhaust fans with higher performing fans? Is higher negative pressure a thing? or do the stock fans already maximize intake of cool air leaving no performance headroom on the table no matter what you do?

Great video. But you can do some Graphics competitions (for eg: with Excel) to improve!

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

Will do, I'm very much still learning. :D Thanks for the positive feedback.

I think we forgot about the rear PCI slots bringing a lot of fresh air from the negative pressure. You could do a test while blocking those out.

Im glad you had this video because I was thinking of adding another fan to the front. How about if im going to put a rad on the front?

That jury-rigged setup was legitimately hilarious

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

It was my favourite part of the video. I may have a bit of a cardboard fetish.

What was the "load" you used on the cpu? Was it the Aida64 we see on the screen? Did you also stress the gpu simultaneously?

Love this test, but did you think of trying to increase the back and top fans to 140mm if that would make the biggest reasonable difference?

Great video! I'm about to buy one of those cases and I was thinking about getting front intake fans, you saved me quite a lot of money, thanks!

This is most entertaining pc vid I have watched in a while... So back on topic... Any chance on making a comparison between stock fans,airflow fans and pressure fans for exhaust... Will it make any difference... Or its all purely in cfm numbers?

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

I'm very glad you enjoyed the video. I definitely want to do that. I don't have access to the PC at the moment, but I will make that video at some point. Thank you for the nice comment.

@DaveChips

5 жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuff I'm sucker for those diy and ghetto build stuff... There is so much fancy super clean, flashy luxury rgb builds mods and such... That I kinda miss those elements "everything to make it work" like it was in old days :D And this video really reminded me on that :)

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

@@DaveChips I am very glad you enjoy those diy projects. They are the most fun to do. Mixing the two is also great, I did a video ages ago putting a GTX 1080 in a system that cost $14. It didn't go very well, but it was such a fun video to make. Thanks for your nice comments.

Well, that gives me a little more confidence in these types of cases for 'mid-range' builds as not being the 'furnace in which to melt my gear' I thought they might be. BTW, on the input side of this case, is there a dust filter (as it looks like there isn't) ? Thanks. Interesting, as usual....

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

It does a surprisingly good job at at not setting everything on fire. :P It does have a small dust filter right at the intake holes in the front. It's very fine, and has been doing a good job up until now. Thanks for watching and the nice comment.

Great video, helped me choose a case for a customer. Thanks!

You answered all the questions I had about fans and case temperature. Why didn't you spend another few hours making an Excel Spreadsheet or PowerPoint presentation LOL.!? Thanks for taking the time to make this video, it really does help me understand better.

There's one major problem with your premise in this video. Whilst it may not make a difference to temperatures in the system without intake fans, I can guarantee the system will become an absolute dust magnet if you don't use intake fans. Without the incoming air being forced through a filter at the front, you will have air coming in through the pci express covers and every other crack and crevice that don't have dust filters. This is also most likely a bad premise for anyone like me that has a front radiator on the intake. Without fans to force the air through my radiator, I can almost guarantee that my temperatures would be worse without intake fans. Overall, I feel like your video was rather pointless as I would rather spend $20 - $30 on intake fans than spend 10-15mins every few weeks cleaning all the dust out of my pc.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

I have gotten several comments along these lines, and I have been running the case for several months with no intake fans and didnt have much of a problem with dust. I should actually do a video on how much of a difference it makes.

@tyroniebalonie

5 жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuff Maybe your home/pc room hasn't got much dust in the first place then? I unfortunately have a room mate that smokes a lot of weed and even though it's not in my pc room, it seems to make the whole house rather dusty. Even with my pc in it's current config ( au.pcpartpicker.com/b/gF3bt6 ) I still have to dust it out every 6-8weeks if I want it looking good without a noticeable layer of dust on the gpu backplate and psu shroud. Being mostly black doesn't help as the dust stands out more but even with my airflow being set to positive, I still get a little bit of dust on the pci express covers every 6-8wks from my gpu drawing air from back there. When I first set my pc up and went with a 140mm top exhaust, I had more airflow on exhaust and my system got dusty twice as fast so I set the fan speeds way down on the exhaust and set the intake fans to always be about 10-20% higher. This positive airflow stopped the pc from getting dusty so quickly. The scenario you propose to people will give negative pressure and therefor should make the case more dusty in most situations. I was probably a bit mean by saying it was a pointless video so I apologize for that. If dust isn't an issue than your scenario is fine for those people but for people like me where the environment can be dusty, and I'm a bit of a clean freak. I find that having positive pressure vs negative pressure is much better for cleanliness and keeping dust out of the case.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

@@tyroniebalonie Oh wow, that's awesome that you keep your PC so clean. It sucks that you have a roommate that pollutes the air in your flat. You are right that positive airflow does help for dust build up. I had the PC in a flat in Tokyo, which is super dusty for some reason, and it didn't build up too badly. I however am less worried than you are about dust build up. I should be better about that kind of thing actually.

@l.ijspeert9040

5 жыл бұрын

I came here for this comment ;P The thing I would have liked seeing is taking out the exhaust fans and putting them in the front, see if that makes any difference. I would think not. So that means you can have best of both: more dust being filtered out AND not having to buy extra fans for a case that comes with 2. I think that might be a better video: Don't buy EXTRA fans for your case. :)

@Emmure8004

5 жыл бұрын

@tyronie balonie That was the first thing I thought when I saw this video too. I hav an S340 case and ran it for 2 months with only the 2 exhaust fans. When I cleaned out my PC, it turned out to have dust not only in the filters, but also in all the other places where it pulled air in, including the PCI express covers. I didn't get intake fans but changed to liquid cooling and my radiator fans work as intake. That has stabilized the dust buildup.

I would always want a case with good airflow and dust filters. Buy a few quiet fans, probably Noctua for a pretty quiet system.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

Noctua fans are awesome. :D

@Obalcan

5 жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuff Do you maybe know which Noctua fans are on par with what comes with Kraken x62 AIO (2x140mm Aer P fans) and the two stock case exhaust fans (Aer F120) but quieter? Looking for a more quiet solution then I curently have but one which would still manage to disspate the heat successfully. I don't know where on the noise scale and ability to push air strenght do Aer P and Aer F120 fans fall in comparison to the Noctua ones? I have the two stock case fans as exhaust but physically connected to Kraken x62 AIO which is installed as an intake cooling the CPU. CAM software that comes with Kraken then regulates the AIO fan speeds but also the two exhaust ones according to how hot the CPU gets. The problem I have with this setup is my MSI 1070Ti GPU can get over 80 degrees C in GPU intense games and accordingly ramps up its own fan speed considerably making it for a "loud" gaming experience. When both, CPU and GPU are heavily tasked then I have double noise - from the AIO and case fans and from the GPU fans all producing a considerable noisy annoyance.

Nice video / tests. One thing that i wonder is if you have a radiator up front, would this change anything to the airflow and / or results ? (one could mount the radiator without fans un front and rely on the two exaust fans, for example)

Nice Vid !I wanted to know if the front intake does make a difference for other parts like HDD's, RAM module and VRM's ? Maybe than the Front Intakes would be worth it !

This is interesting... I have the NZXT H500. My 8600K, under gaming load, used to be around 65 C. After installing three NZXT AER 140mm fans in the case my temperatures dropped to about 55-58 C. I can stop my front intakes and have another look if that would interest any one.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

I would be very interested. I have done this test so many times and I haven't been able to get that result. What graphics card do you have? Is it very hot? Thank you for the comment.

@23147458

5 жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuff CPU: 8600K GPU: EVGA GTX 1080TI Black Edition CPU Cooler: Deepcool Gammaxx GT RGB Are you South African? If you are, we can PM or something

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

@@23147458 That's interesting, I wonder if its because the GTX 1080 Ti is much hotter than the GTX 1060 I tested with that adding fans made a big difference. That's an awesome PC by the way. I was born in Namibia and lived in South Africa for 4 years. We can DM, but I'm not in South Africa at the moment.

@evagelidis1995

5 жыл бұрын

​@@DawidDoesTechStuff i have that case and i have done many test. reason for front fans 1. radiator 2.dust (if you dont put intake fans exhaust fans take unfiltered air from the back that why the system is cool , it is actually better. But the air is unfiltered.) 3.huge GPUs need them , i got 1070ti strix (half card take air from the font fans and other half from back) with this small gaps only sp fans will work

@Boemtie

5 жыл бұрын

same!

Mine works amazing. I have a Corsair liquid cooling system on the front and it operates beautifully. Exhaust out the back. Always does the trick. Solid temps.

@RazrRamonIRL

5 жыл бұрын

Eric Paoletti Hey, man. Randomly came across your comment, and actually I want to inquire what exactly you did to make yours run at solid temps. I have Corsair liquid cooler and it’s in the front. I get excellent readings on everything except the CPU. At idle, it’s running around 80+ degrees C. Just wanna know if maybe I’m missing something small but crucial. Please and thanks.

@ericpao81

5 жыл бұрын

@@RazrRamonIRL you may not have a good connection between the cooler panel and the CPU or improper paste distribution. I'd pull it off, clean it up and try again. I've had that happen before. Sometimes it's a finicky process. Just be sure you are pulling air through the radiator, not pushing it.

@RazrRamonIRL

5 жыл бұрын

Eric Paoletti thank you so much for the reply, man. Ironically I kept at it, and it turns out I was just getting false readings from Speccy. Google told me through a bunch of sources that since I’m using an AMD processor, that I need to download the master utility app to get a proper reading. Been running and gaming on it all morning and it’s been running at wonderful temperatures the whole time. I’m very happy. Thank you again for getting back to me. Cheers to my official first build from scratch being successful!

@ericpao81

5 жыл бұрын

@@RazrRamonIRL congrats man!!

@RazrRamonIRL

5 жыл бұрын

Eric Paoletti many many thanks, friend!

After watching your vid I came up with an idea for my 510. I drilled holes at the front of my panel and covered with magnetic dust filter.

Great vid! I am curious about the situation what if people use 240mm radiator in the front. Will there be a difference between with intake fans or not?

You just saved me $44, thanks man!!

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

It's a pleasure. Weird results, but they speak for themselves. Thanks for the comment.

The front intake would be more effective if the case fan holder were tilted at a 40~45 degree angle.

@roshishi8164

3 жыл бұрын

Agree. There should be a gap in between the fan and the side panel air vent.

This is actually hilarious hahaha. Great video dude! Very up beat and fun to watch. I might just double up my fans tbh! Looks cool too lol

That " Franken-Fan" set up was wonderful man lol

lmao the last half of the video with the "ghetto " set up XD

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

XD

do u recommend replacing the fans that come with the case though? Also, if i do this do i still need an aio cooler? (i have ryzen 7 3700 and rtx 2070)

@yulles225

4 жыл бұрын

OnlyTheNerdKnows yes nzxt fans are loud as FUCK

@pure5326

4 жыл бұрын

i have a RTX 2060 and a Ryzen 3800X. The fans that come with the case are very noisy. I recommend using Other fans. as far as needing an AIO cooler im not sure if you need one. I use the Stock Prism Cooler and its quiet.

@agoia

4 жыл бұрын

My experience with the stock fans, especially the top one, was absolutely unbearable noise. Replaced with noctua 140mm and cougar 120mm.

@mattcoffee1269

4 жыл бұрын

just built mine monday. Absolutely silent on 2 stick fans, so far so good.

@taytay1030

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattcoffee1269 yeah I have had mine for like 4 months and they are still silent

this vid helps most of us who own midrange builds that work perfectly in this case

I have two AER RGB fans on the intake side. They work great and compared to the S430 Elite I upgraded from to the h500, not only are temperatures a bit better, there is not nearly as much dust in my computer compared to in my S430. This h500 mid tower design is actually really, really great. I love it. It's exactly what I was expecting it to be compared to the S430; I'm satisfied

Seems like I'll be installing my AIO without the fans now lol

@aerty4072

3 жыл бұрын

I guess it won’t cool then

@samed161

3 жыл бұрын

@@aerty4072 No it will of course, why do you think that?111

@aerty4072

3 жыл бұрын

@@samed161 It won’t, wanna know why? Because the fans that come with the AIO cool the water that has already been used to cool the CPU, So hell it won’t cool down the CPU because because it is only being cooled by hotter water.

@samed161

3 жыл бұрын

@@aerty4072 No!!!11 It will cool!!111 You‘re just a little kid who knows about nothing!!1121

@aerty4072

3 жыл бұрын

@@samed161 And you get mad when you are wrong

not using intake fans turns your pc into a vacuum cleaner

@GentlyUsedFrog

4 жыл бұрын

But in this case, using front fans is choking your pc.

@MrMotorAdict

4 жыл бұрын

Very true, and they left open the pcie brackets with no filter...

@matsudakodo

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. You want slight positive pressure, so 50-60% should be intake so you direct the air through your filters. Otherwise it gets sucked in every nook and cranny that is not filtered.

I always wondered about the sanity of not having airflow from the front of the case.

Have this case. There IS a reason why you would want intake fans. The dust buildup for a negative pressure case is real, and by having intake fans, it forces the air to only go in through the front, such that the dust won’t seep in through the nooks and crannies, and make sure they go through the dust filters.

I do like the jerry rigged / ghetto projects, keep em coming!

Someone help me out here, I have bought 2 silent wings from be quiet! Would I just replace the stock fans in the case with them? Both as exhaust?? And have no front intake fans atall?

@thirtyacres7504

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, two exhaust fans. I know I'm late to respond to this haha. You can also have the top fan as an intake fan bringing in cool air. The back fan will be the only exhaust. No front intake fans. Otherwise, you won't have any fresh cool air coming in the case.

Thank you so much for this video :)

Interesting experiment. Thanks for the entertaining video.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching, and the comment. :D

Here is my hypothesis ... the ability to exhaust is the limiting factor. To test, measure the volume of air input against the volume of air exhausted in each of your scenarios. I bet it is basically the same. It does not make physical sense that if you had a higher volume of cooler ambient air, entering the box, that the system would not cool.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

This is an awesome hypothesis. I would love to test that. Just not sure what equipment I would need in order to measure air volume. :P I do however think that your explanation makes sense.

RGB fans increase the airflow of the mouth of people talking how nice your setup looks

@oItzDegree

4 жыл бұрын

The thing that matters the most

I think the lesson here is your case can only cool as well as it can evacuate hot air. Your exhaust fans are 45CFM. It would be interesting to see results with the S12s (63CFM) installed as exhaust instead. You can prove whether you're intake flow limited by removing the front panel as well.

Great video, purchased the H500 twice, I do have one build posted on my channel, the intake fans help for my wife PC as it does has an MSI TRIO RTX 2080, that card produces a lot of heat when gaming. But even then I think, and I’m not sure, but using the stock fans provided would suffice, I opted to use a dual radiator cooler from Cooler Master so kind of 2 birds with one stone, thank you for the post.

Hey Dawid it's me again. The guy with 3770k PC problems. I hope you remember me after such a long time. I watched your video on 3770k build. It was really good. Btw good news for ME(lol). After a lot of research and few troubleshooting. I managed to solve my problem about motherboard not accepting Graphics card. It was a stupid mistake of putting Mobo settings to onboard after my previous graphic card died. So changing it back to PCI express did the trick. And I was about to splash the cash for my new AMD build. Luckily I tried to give my current pc one last chance. And everything worked. I was lucky I guess.. Coz i think My PC still has 2-3 years left in it. So FINALLY my question is which GTX 1060 or Rx 570 card is the best from there manufacturers??? I want pure 1080p ultra settings gaming experience.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

Hello Harshad, Thank you for the great comment. I'm really glad you figured out your problem, because that CPU is still great. Like you said, it still has some life left in it. :D In regards to which GPU, I think the GTX 1060 is the better bet. Even the 3gb version is generally faster than the RX 570.

@harshadkamble822

5 жыл бұрын

Hey dude.... I just bought Gigabyte GTX wind force 1060 3gb ... I was thinking about going for 6 gb version.... But in comparison videos I saw only 6 -10 fps of difference between 3 & 6 gb. So instead I boosted my ram another 8 gig...😋 Thank you so much for helping me bro.... 😁👍🏻

There are only three reasonable air pressure/air flow setups for this case. Two exhaust, two front intake, or NZXT stock which is top intake, back exhaust. Running any combination of those three will probably give you negative results. Yup, NZXT has the top as an intake fan (stock setup). Also keep in mind that the stock NZXT fans are bad. Grab some Arctic P12 (static pressure) for your radiator and heatsink, as well as Arctic F12 for airflow fans.

Maybe someone already said this, but I feel like doing more with the exhaust fans would've made better results, since the exhaust is what makes the case work. More negative pressure - higher airflow?

this is the most effort ive ever seen from a dawid video

Wouldn't it still be a good idea to ad front fans to get positive pressure and minimise dust building?

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

That's a good point, and I thought the same, but I have run the nzxt S340 for months with only exhaust fans and I had no problems with dust.

Do these fans work fine as u tested in the video if i build a PC with ryzen 5 2600 and radeon rx 580 in the NZXT H500 case?I mean the temperature.

@blaster1185

5 жыл бұрын

Ka chun Yeung I’ll try to remember to tell you, I’m finishing a build of a pc in a few days with those 2 parts but there’s probably someone who has done this already and posted it online. I expect it to work, I have seen very acceptable temperatures with this case from people running even hotter components inside.

@Adam-pd3fc

5 жыл бұрын

Haha I just built a h500i with ryzen 2600x and rx 580 and have no issues with heat

@nodrama490

5 жыл бұрын

Adam Ouimet cool I just got this case i7 8000 just worried about tempt

@abdullahshah4600

5 жыл бұрын

did you end up building a pc in that case?

@Stefan-oi9nk

5 жыл бұрын

I built a H400 with 2600x and rx580 last December. Two intake fan with Aio cooler at the front and exhaust fans at the top and back. There is no problem with heat. Under load (gaming and code compiling), cpu temp is about 65c and gpu temp is about 80c

Would it make sense to have a Kraken X62 in the front to cool the CPU, with Corsair LL120s in the back and on top? :-)

Great video, subbed.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

That's awesome. Welcome to the channel. :D

Here's my theory: once air comes in through that side vent it can go around the front fans and come up through the ventilation on the bottom, or it can come in from behind the white arm thingy, but again bypassing the front fans. The front fans are just circulating air the same as the fans on most GPUs.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

That's a very interesting theory. That may be because it isn't air tight around fans. It is pretty weird to me that they don't do much.

@justinb3074

5 жыл бұрын

i can feel real cool air entering through the front panel... he forgot to mention there is a bottom slot with a dust filter for air to come in, on the front panel. most reviewers miss it...

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

@@justinb3074 I'm not saying it doesn't have airflow. I'm saying that adding intake fans are justified because of their cost and them not really improving airflow much.

@justinb3074

5 жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuff the case only comes with the two fans. they are decent for coming with the case. but installing 2 120 mm high CFM fans on the front bracket will def. pull in a bunch of cool air from the front, side and bottom vents. I think your case pressure was off for this video kus this thing get tons of cool air from the front and bottom dust filtered vents. idt you noticed the bottom front panel vent. most people don't see it. the air vents arent huge by any means on this case, but they are just the right size. ive got the same ambient as you and im sitting at 60c on load across my cpu and gpu.

I've seen a lot of builds with a 240 mm rad mounted in the front with the fans exhausting toward that front area, I wonder if it's just there for aio cooling

I’m pretty sure the H510/H500 was specifically designed with negative pressure in mind and that’s why the stock fan configuration is 2 exhaust fans instead of 1 intake and 1 exhaust

my matrexx 55 comes with stock 3 intake rgb fans and they are part of design, and it costs only 20% more than case without them. However it was crucial to install at least one exhaust fan.

What happens if replace the existing fans with Noctua f12 fans as exhaust and no fans as intakes.. does the temps remain the same??

@Xyrin59952

4 жыл бұрын

I too would like to know the answer to this question.

This feel like an LTT video. I like it

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much. I'm glad you like it. :D

As far as i know the NZXT H500 and H500i are designed with watercooling in mind. Thats why the cases come with two fans in exhaust configuration. The front is specifically meant for radiators.

Wish I had seen this video before ordering Noctua 140mm x2 fans

POSSIBLE PROBLEM: I don't disagree with the results in general, but I do wonder what would happen if you set the GPU and CPU fans to a specific RPM then repeated the tests. Is it possible that SOME of the lack of change in temperature is due to those fans spinning faster?

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

Some people have mentioned this before, but I set all the fan speeds to set RPM. Thanks for the comment addressing it though.

I don't really get why those solid front panels are so popular. To me the most important intake is the front, oc you'll have a dust filter which decreases the airflow but that is a dumb concept to me

@CroIntr00X

5 жыл бұрын

They do it for few reasons. Design. Beauty. Looks. Minimalism. Esthetics. Etc. Not debatable but its there among others. Same as Apple doing with own shit. Not the best cooling. But best looks and noise. So if you running midrange inside h500 u should be good. Also this case doesnt have cheap plastic at all. As said for some this is major selling point.

@riccardopivetta6397

5 жыл бұрын

@@CroIntr00X Yes I get the point but i would nice to see, in order to get the same airflow, which would be the final noise compensation of a solid panel solution vs the lower rpms of a meshed one

I've been looking at this case so I really appreciate you being the only one to do actual airflow tests. Is it possible for you to do a setup with 2 nf-a14 IPPC 3000 RPM fans as front intake? Those are super high pressure and airflow and I fee l might give a noticable difference in temp

@CroIntr00X

5 жыл бұрын

No it wont but will increase noise. U should mainly focus on the exhaust. Place better fans there since Nzxt designed this case as negative pressure case. With its 39 litres of capacity it is not AF case by any means. Gpu in this case draw air from back (pcie slots) that suits best for gpu. If you push too much front intake air over gpu it will raise temps( causing disturbance).

Damn, good job!

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! :D

so should I just keep the stock fans as it is without installing any other fans?

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

From my tests that's what it shows.

@tyroniebalonie

5 жыл бұрын

if you want your pc to be a dust magnet, and having to clean the dust from it regularly, than sure, go with this stupid idea.

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

@@tyroniebalonie I have been running the case for months with no intake fans and didn't have much of a problem with dust.

@AD-fs3qw

5 жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuff so should i buy any extra fans for front part?

Great stuff. This video got me thinking! :) You say that the intake is constricted and that it is a bottleneck, and that this is the reason why the extra fans makes no difference. I am not sure that is the right conclusion. Doesn’t the fact that you get the same temperatures regardless of what you do increase the intake instead show that the intake is not a bottleneck? H500 is a mid sized case at a budget price, so I suspect NZXT designed it to at least handle cooling air requirements of a mid range system, anything else would be very strange. I am guessing that the temperatures you get more show the efficiency of your CPU and GPU coolers than the efficiency of the airflow. What temperatures do you get with the case TG side removed? If the intake is a bottleneck I suspect that intake fans would make some difference (more air out would also help), and it might also be that the type of fan has an impact. It could be an interesting follow-up video to use masking tape to block the intake. Maybe do measurements at 0%, 25% 50%, 75% and 100% blocked (include TG removed for reference). If there is an increase in temperature it would be a consequence of constricted intake. Then you could pick a suitable level of blockage, where there is an obvious intake bottleneck, to test different fan setups. In addition to the above it would be interesting to see what would happen in a system generating a lot more heat. You have without doubt shown that there is no point in buying extra intake fan in your system. Many thanks. Keep it it up!

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

This is an awesome comment, thank you for taking the time write this up. Your explanation here makes perfect sense I think I will do a video testing that in the future. However the reason that I made the conclusion that the intake was a bottleneck was because in the first video where I tested the airflow in the NZXT S340 I tested the case's airflow performance in the same configuration as the H500 but also tested without the front panel on (because you can remove it on the S340) and the temperatures dropped significantly. Since I got the same temperatures as with the NZXT H500 with the S340 (and the front panel attached) I concluded that they have similar front airflow performance. Considering that the S340 performed better with the constricted front panel removed, I made the conclusion that the front airflow was the bottleneck. I do really like the test that you suggested though. It will be an interesting way to show how much of a temperature difference the amount of airflow that is available makes. I should also test the case with a very high end system in it to see how well it handles a heavier heat load. Thank you again for the awesome comment.

@hongzeliew1259

5 жыл бұрын

Great video, and yes, would love to see the temps with the side panel removed, sort of a best case reference point.

DANG! Recent subscriber here and WOW. Look at this baby face Dawid! Also, still a great vid with great info!

Dude that was totally overkill, loved every single bit of it. Still gonna buy front RGB fans though :'D

this video made me sub

@DawidDoesTechStuff

5 жыл бұрын

That's awesome. Thank you and welcome to the channel. :D

@ripsimps

5 жыл бұрын

@@DawidDoesTechStuff omg im so late but ur very welcome

Go ahead man. I'll be over here wasting my time and precious energy/dollars with my front case fans.

@sebbywap3986

3 жыл бұрын

word bro i need my rgb fan fix. i’m a junkie

I own a S340, which i think has a little bit better front airflow. Years ago I installed a be quiet silent wing 140mm fan in the bottom part of the front panel, in order to provide more fresh air to my graphics card (MSI RX480 Gaming X). I definitely remember seeing some improvement in GPU temperatures, just a few degrees but that's normal

It's an interesting test, but I wonder if your results would apply if you did the test with higher-end components. An I9 9900k and a 2080ti will certainly provide very different results since they get way hotter than a 1060 and an I5. The configuration you have seems to be pretty cool on its own, which might explain why intake fans doesn't make a difference.