You can, in fact, load a pre-made pretender in game. You have to press ctrl+L in pretender creation menu. I heard they wanted to improve UI in Dom6, i can't fathom why would they hide that option.

@minibotas9496

5 ай бұрын

And you can save them Outside of the pretender creator tool with ctrl + S

@Nikanoru

5 ай бұрын

You are my hero. I had assumed it was an oversight that it wasn't in the screen lol

@TheWayOfPencil

5 ай бұрын

@@Nikanoru Glad to help you!

I actually like the Caveman with the net. They expand decently well since they can tie up the enemy en masse, and you can mass produce them even in Sloth + Turmoil scales. I think you quickly want to transition into mass freespawn Mouflon with the Tartalo, since you can make them in many provinces and each Tartalo summons 2 Mouflon per turn. It could quickly get out of control since the Mouflon have zero upkeep, kind of like Sceleria. It's true that the Shaman is pretty stinky, so you might struggle with research, but I think that when buffed with Nature/Earth/Air buffs from your combat mages (including the forest only ones), this nation could become seriously terrifying. IMO, you have to think of them fundamentally as a "buff my chaff" nation. True, it's not the kind of nation that has good anyfort mages, but when it comes to an actual war, you only need so many Big Combat Casters, and your cap mages/forest foreignrec mages fill that role nicely. Don't forget that Cavemen have above human HP and Strength as well as Fire+Cold res, and with Mouflons having upwards of 20 HP, your armies aren't very vulnerable to late game AOEs and remotes. Heck, if you can find a way to get big Fire yourself, your dudes would tank Fire Storm pretty well...at the very least, you can Barkskin them without actually gaining Fire Vulnerability, which is something.

@CairnEnjoyer

5 ай бұрын

That’s a good point, I barely considered the summons at all and mostly thought about the big cap only mages. It does make it harder to mass cheaper mages since forts are so expensive in Dom6, usually not until way later can I start to afford several of them. Probably I underestimated this nation, but it’s still very unorthodox.

@CantusTropus

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, they're definitely a very weird nation. I don't know how good they will end up being, but we'll probably need a fair bit of experimentation before we have a solid grasp of how the nation should be played.

9:20 - hit backspace to quickly remove other players, and 'n' to add a new player with the last player's settings

Thumbnail goes hard af

The number on the commander card represents its movement value.

thumbnail goes hard and that was a hell of an intro lol

Just as a tip. You can load a preloaded pretender into a single player game but you need to hold down the ctrl key and then press L. It is weird and isn't explained at all but it is there.

@MadAsgardian

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, odd decision to change this. If you're ever unsure of what you can or can't do on a particular screen, remember to hit shift + question mark key for a list of keyboard shortcuts (though I gather even this isn't 100% comprehensive).

@aggrael8285

5 ай бұрын

@@MadAsgardian I’m pretty sure it was a mistake by illwinter. I wouldn’t be surprised if we get the option back within a month or 2.

@minibotas9496

5 ай бұрын

And you can save a pretender when about to start a game by pressing ctrl + S It will tell you to give it a name but once you do you’ll be at the pretender creation screen again, and you will need to give it a name again if you want to play with it, just as you would normally

@MadAsgardian

5 ай бұрын

@@aggrael8285 Let's hope so. The few times they've replied to questions on Steam about this, they haven't exactly come out and said they plan to add it back.

@CairnEnjoyer

5 ай бұрын

That’s good to know, they keep having pop ups to read the manual, maybe I actually should lol

Pyrene gets out of Fort commanders with summon allies for mufflon and cave cows. This means exponential production of mufflon and cave cow armies. A player would counter you with things that check MR, but the ai you can swamp with pyrene. Unrelated imo the best caveman is the cheap one with the greatclub, because at least he deals 22 damage. They die like flies but kill like angry cavemen with clubs.

this channel smells hard of single-play dominions enjoyer the innocence is so charming to me, i love it

@rustyshackleford634

5 ай бұрын

I play SP xD

@CairnEnjoyer

5 ай бұрын

I only played online for Dom5 but so far I’ve just been trying to practice a bit in SP with Dom6 before joining some games. Next I’ll upload a game I’m joining and some footage from it. As well I have some older videos of multiplayer games from Dom5

you can load a pretender use ctrl + l and ctrl + s to save.

I didn't know AI will propose NAPs, that's cool

@CairnEnjoyer

5 ай бұрын

They also send you an angry message if you violate the NAP and try to get you banned from Discord so the AI is very realistic.

I think with the economy changes in Dominions 6 you need to be careful about going wild buying expensive mages early, I've watched several games in a row now where the player has struggled to put together enough gold to get forts started while buying 400+g mages every turn, that they then have trouble using because they don't have high level spells and items researched. With the increase in mage and infrastructure prices along with the increase in indy strength requiring more spending on troops as well, I don't think you get enough gold to easily pull that off anymore without crunching your income with upkeep. Maybe you could afford it with an awake expander giving you an extra province every turn but that's more dangerous now too.

@CairnEnjoyer

5 ай бұрын

Bad habits from Dom5 for sure where you really need to buy the best mages every turn to compete by mid-late game.

@xeroprotagonist

5 ай бұрын

@@CairnEnjoyer I hope that's the case and there's more strategy now with what mages you should buy and when, but it might be that some civs can still do fine spamming their most expensive mages and the ones I've been watching just have economy problems. It seems like the game has slowed down a bit overall though and is punishing players for trying to build up a super strong mage corps too fast. We'll have to see how it plays out as the community adjusts to D6, that's just what I've been noticing from the first few test games people have been posting.

@CairnEnjoyer

5 ай бұрын

I find it takes me way longer to get forts up regardless, while on Dom5 I would have several forts up in the first year on average.

@CantusTropus

5 ай бұрын

Indirect buff to Enkidu nations, the greater efficiency of City Palisades is now meaningful!😅

@duartemarco

5 ай бұрын

yeah, I used to hire pans and pandemoniums every single turn with MA Pangaea, now I have to rely on Hierophant(ide)s during much more time, or else I won't have cash to build infrastructure

8:58 you can Hotkey ctr-l. But Still don’t know why they removed the UI button from 5?

you can shift click to hire 10 units at a time

x to repeat the last spell and you can see the turn by clicking on the season icon. you got a good expansion personally I struggle to expand whit cave nation I fight a lot of demon an ethereal unit and that's hard :') Why don't you did a dwarf hammer whit the forging giant?

@CairnEnjoyer

5 ай бұрын

I did make one but by that point in the game it was mostly over and I was just stalling around to try things out. Cave expansion is pretty hard since there are a lot of difficult indies underground, but I imagine it will be easy to defend and it seems most cave nations get a bonus for cave provs.

You can make spam of tartalos full build with only 6 gems, don't know if it's good enough tho.

@CairnEnjoyer

5 ай бұрын

I’ve seen a few people mention this so I’ll have to try it out soon, coming from Dom5 I’ve not really made much use of units with “summon allies” except for Lemuria summoning ghosts and similar.

@ososimiospub6406

5 ай бұрын

I think this is some kind of "swarm" Faction, it's all about free spawns, cheap items for mediocre thugs but 5-6 tartalos with Shock tridents + Kihaironic Lion Pelt (18 invul) +hornet helmt +Dancing trident (5 gems thanks to Jentils lol) sounds kinda good idk, I'm a bit noob but have a strong feeling with "thug" spam.

@CantusTropus

5 ай бұрын

The Forest mages make better thugs, imo

@ososimiospub6406

5 ай бұрын

@@CantusTropus you can make both thugs, tartalos are really cheap and can go wiith offesinve items like trample boots and thunder spears with your armies. Forest mages with frostbrand and vineshields + selfbuffs and other defensive items. Tartalos are good anti thughs/sc too, equip flyboots atack rear and hunt them.

@duartemarco

5 ай бұрын

@@ososimiospub6406buy a Dwarven Hammer from someone and go crazy on the cheap thug builds

1:09:43 those inds are hella strong, too bad they are not good cost efficient, but as inds are quite hard. shades and trogs are problematic too, caves have some hard to deal provinces.

@CairnEnjoyer

5 ай бұрын

Cynophelians are tough, in Dom5 I’d always try to recruit a lot if I found a prov having them.

@rhysdavies3479

5 ай бұрын

@@CairnEnjoyer Now they are a nation! An OP one from a first glance lol

@peterstedman6140

5 ай бұрын

@@rhysdavies3479 yeah seems like it. they are minimum very good

Pyrene would be the richest nation if you could open bazaars in order to sell artifacts for gold

I want to oike this nation but in practice they are kind of annoying to play. My idea was to take a Drakon to expand with anf then focus on the forein recruit e2 mages as thugs since the cap only giants with hammers can make 5 gem items for 1 gem, so idea was 2 ~250 gold thugs with 5 gems worth of gear each operating in kill teams with a third Rain of Stones guy added as fire support once ylu get evo 7. But i was rather disappointed with the thugs, as they are not priests so are hard to bless. You can forge them bottles for cheap, but idea is to have them as budget as possible so that bottle is like 20% of allocated gem budget. So then i figured ill just give them recup on the bless as that doesnt require being actually blessed but then their effectiveness even in pairs is limited. You could stack them on the same square to layer regeneration temper flesh and moss body with one and iron skin, temper flesh and temper armours with the other. That will destroy small comitments of troops and may be good vs players but ai seems to commit enough on large enough scale it would frequently fail and you cant layer more buffs as they will fatigue out and get chopped up. Another idea i had was to buff the ever loving fuck out of the cudgel and rocks cavemen. They are undisciplined but due to having the sticks and stones attack they waddle forward and then stop to yeet shit and can be then buffed but logistically its annoying to have it planned in advance to lead them out of the caves to meet with the forest mages whos recruitment spots are also very vulnerable as you must keep them unforted its just frustrating

EA Pyrene recruitment roster looks like a draft nation. Or, to be frank, more like a dog's dinner. Who's mythology is this based on and why are those caves so crowded with seemingly random peoples?

@CairnEnjoyer

5 ай бұрын

I’ve heard it’s supposed to be Basque but I don’t know much about Basque mythology to comment. The Sasquatch looking guys and giants make me wish we could have a nation based off of North American tall tales. But I know it won’t happen except for mods

Really nice editing.

Where.Patreon?

@CairnEnjoyer

5 ай бұрын

My work is too sloppy to justify people giving me money.

I've seen you make quite a lot of newb mistakes in this playthrough, and FYI, that is perfectly fine. You have a lot to learn about Dominions, and that is a good place to be in actually, because a lot of the fun of this game is in learning and experimenting and trying different things out. What I do take issue with is that in the start of the video when you review the national units you make a lot of judgements about the nation that are flat out wrong. You don't know Dominions and how it works (that's clear) and then you go on to say "I don't like this or that unit". Well, you don't understand how these units synergize with the nation, or even how the nation should be played effectively, so your not really in a good place to judge it on camera. In fact, all of Pyrenes units have a use case. Like all nations, not all the national units will be used in mainstream builds, and some are thrown in to flesh out the national lore, however, as you demonstrated, they all can be used to great effect when used effectively. Your use of Sorghina's is another area where you showed you don't understand Dominions and how the units are used to wreak absolute carnage on a battlefield. You used like 5 of them to thug a throne province without a supporting army, without first pinging the province to even see what was in it, and furthermore, the province was not even bordering one of your own. So, you threw like 2000 gold down the drain for nothing, and how you used them was completely wrong for what they do. Next, why did you choose a basic scout as your prophet? There are cases where prophetizing a scout makes sense, but this isn't one of them. In another instance, you once again go after a level 2 throne this time without pinging it, and you throw hordes of chaff troops in I guess thinking a bunch of indy bokemonos will be able to take on not just some of the better stuff that guards a throne but also the mages too! Granted, it doesn't take a massive army to take these thrones, but it does take planning and a strategy. Using your national troops, priests, and mages to synergize together to create a battlefield that favors you. Understanding the magic system is also critical when using your mages, and understanding when and how many mages you need to bring to a fight are also equally key. You need to come up with a magic strategy to win the game with Pyrene even before selecting a pretender chassis, so that you know how to set your pretender up in the first place to fill the holes that your nation has. My advice is that you should watch KZreadrs like Lucid Tactics, and Das to learn the basics of the game, and there are A LOT! Dominions is an extremely complicated game, and it has a really steep learning curve. Maybe the biggest learning curve of any game. You did as well as you could given your experience level. Keep trying and learning! PS. Nobody, and I do mean NOBODY knows all there is to know about Dominions except for the two devs that made this game. Everyone else is still learning!

@CairnEnjoyer

5 ай бұрын

That’s true, especially in Dom6 I’m always trying to improve. I’m going to join a few multiplayer games soon to help get some real practice. To be honest playing SP is not that useful for improving your skills beyond the very early expansion. I definitely judged the nation harshly, after playing it here and seeing some of the comments I think I could manage it much better next time. Even at the end I got a bit lazy and just started teleporting my god onto the thrones to nab them. I’m looking forward to improving and keep making Dominions and other content.

@Dmack0713

5 ай бұрын

@@CairnEnjoyer I advise you to keep doing SP with the nation that you intend to try out in MP first until you have a good build and national strategy. MP games can be brutal, and hard to learn from when you just get stomped by more experienced players that really don't have much interest in teaching you. Watch Lucid and Das and other KZreadrs that have a lot of playlisted games out there. They tend to be fairly long winded in explaining things, which is nice because its easier to watch them make mistakes and then lament about them so that you get to learn from it to!!

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@throeawae2130

5 ай бұрын

go play your call of duty, trog

@snap8626

5 ай бұрын

it was a compliment you juden@@throeawae2130